THE SECRET IS 16:51!!!!

@Tsteezzz

3 жыл бұрын

I just found itttt

@normaldrinkingwater4653

3 жыл бұрын

ok

@Tsteezzz

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats man!

@MrBallen

3 жыл бұрын

you did it! literally saw your comment 4 seconds after you posted it... you are the winner!

@normaldrinkingwater4653

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrBallen nice

the fact that some killers are just so smart makes it more worrying

@MrBallen

3 жыл бұрын

Ya seriously

@icantthinkofaname15

3 жыл бұрын

@Claire Redfield you're right.

@coaster_chayYT

3 жыл бұрын

@Claire Redfield ayo its Claire redfield from resident evil

@taraseguin2026

3 жыл бұрын

Psychopaths/sociopaths usually are highly intelligent

@lyras.9161

3 жыл бұрын

Also really sad that they couldn't direct that passion and intellect towards bettering humanity, instead of murdering innocents.

To be honest, if I came running out of the woods, literally butt naked, with a handcuff on my wrist and obvious signs of abuse, I too would be offended at being asked to take a lie detector test.

@animefreak7423

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@maevependragon

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@kathryncumberland

2 жыл бұрын

Police treat sex workers horribly! It's inexcusable.

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

I have gotten nervous before at the idea of being suspected even though I'm innocent. Lie detectors are fallible.

@Crackpot_Astronaut

2 жыл бұрын

No kidding. You have this girl ending up like this, giving exact details that matched up to a man she never knew and would have no reason to frame, and somehow THAT'S not good enough for police... But a psychological profile IS? What the absolute duck

I met Robert Hansen and shook his clammy hand. True story: In 1982 I worked at a convenience store in Fairview, an Anchorage community surrounding a main drag. His bakery was creatively named "Hansen's Bakery" and was next door to the QwikStop in the strip mall on Gambell. It was early morning and I happened to be ending shift as the "night guy". Through the glass door to the hallway and his bakery I saw Mr. Hansen and thought I'd step over and meet this dude who owned the donut place next door. We bought donuts from, of course. I'm very tall and I remember him looking up at me with an expressionless face and those same glasses you see at 15:50 in this video. He softly said "hi" in a voice that sounded like he was talking to himself. "Not a real outgoing guy", I thought to myself. But I admired him for starting up his own gig and making the American Dream happen for him. I hopped in my car and went home, not knowing I had just met a man who had either recently finished a "hunt" or was getting ready for his next. I shook the hand of a serial killer, not long before he was caught. Eww. This is a true story and I will never forget the look on his face.

@maryanne7161

Жыл бұрын

Everything's fine and all,but I wish u wouldnt call that guy "Mr."!

@bonjy3701

11 ай бұрын

He did live the American Dream to the fullest - taking the freedom of others and mercilessly killing and torturing them.

@brian4180

10 ай бұрын

@@bonjy3701you’re a goof

@merczeph79

5 ай бұрын

Men with weak handshakes can not be trusted.

@-Zevin-

4 ай бұрын

@@bonjy3701 Wow, brutal, see what you are saying though...

This is so infuriating because even though Cindy was traumatized and terrified after being assaulted and almost killed she still did everything she could to get the police to catch this guy and they even with all the evidence and support they just left it which resulted in the death of more women. Cindy is incredible brave and selfless for doing what she did and I hope she was able to recover from what happened.

@sam-psonsmith9951

Жыл бұрын

rich people privilege. the police doesn't go after wealthy people unless they absolutely have to.

@ellymay1455

6 ай бұрын

I learned that living in the same neighbourhood at the time that the Yorkshire ripper was killing women every couple of weeks. The police didn’t take any of it seriously, it was just sex workers. Until he started to kill ‘’ innocent women’’ there words not mine. as if somehow it was ok to kill some women but not the innocent ones. It’s amazing how women are ranked into innocent or deceiving of their fate because somehow they asked for it and the law not there for them. I hope time have changed.But I doubt it.

@DJKhaled69420

5 ай бұрын

@@sam-psonsmith9951how do you know he was wealthy

@sam-psonsmith9951

5 ай бұрын

@@DJKhaled69420 A: Because i watched a different video which went into more detail about this case. and B: Because i actually used my earballs to listen to what was said in this video. which mentioned that in less detail.

@-Zevin-

4 ай бұрын

@@sam-psonsmith9951 "How did you know he was wealthy" Oh gee I dunno his private airplane and hunting cabin and successful business owner didn't tip him off? lol You are totally right too there are two justice systems in this country, one for the rich and one for the poor, it's insane what you can get away with if you have money. Sad too what happened to Cindy with the lie detector BS too when lie detectors are famously not admissible in court because they are pseudoscience nonsense that don't prove one way or another if someone is lying or not, they only prove someone is nervous.

My goal in life is to never end up in one of MrBallen’s stories.

@markusmitchell8585

3 жыл бұрын

%1 of his stories are actual good OMG people I meant good as in a positive outcome man a lot of you are Aholes I love his stories get a life jerks man stop being so toxic

@gromester1092

3 жыл бұрын

@@markusmitchell8585 Yes, but those aren’t very good odds.

@darrienscott7048

3 жыл бұрын

Mr Ballen himself was in one of his videos.

@robininok5603

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@J_Honor_

3 жыл бұрын

Strive for bigger goals! Though I do feel you 😉 I don't want to end up as a story, but if I had to.,..I want Mr. Ballen to tell my tale in story format!

Letting them wander in the woods while he hunted them, is another level of horror.

@perplexedxbox5930

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention the whole island part of it. Nobody on the island had a chance

@cheeseburgerinparadise7124

3 жыл бұрын

They still finding bones off knik river, thought to be more victims. Fun fact: he was a barber in Seward Correctional Center.

@TheGrassManissaviour

3 жыл бұрын

Hey I mean at least he was nice enough to give them a chance at staying a step ahead of Requiem!

@earthsgard

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure Hollywood has made a movie like this sick shit, saw, hostel, etc ..some weird bastards out there...

@MightyMoth108

3 жыл бұрын

The animal now hunts the humans..

I remember reading a short story called “Dangerous Game” in middle school. It was about a hunter who washed up on an island after a shipwreck and found a rich hunter living there who loved to hunt dangerous animals and had made a sport of hunting humans who washed up on the island. The the rest of the story followed the protagonist being forced to play a twisted game of cat and mouse with the rich hunter.

@bomberanian

Жыл бұрын

Was just thinking about this. In my freshman year I read that and I thought that this was awfully similar to that. But this came after that was written I believe. Possible he read it and thought, "Oh cool, I'm going to do this"

@datdankdj8264

5 ай бұрын

The Most Dangerous Game was one of my favorite reads in my earlier high school days, even watched the film on it from the 30s, was very interesting.

@ZUCKERWATTEQ

2 ай бұрын

Good book. It is called "the most dangerous game in the world " written by Richard Connell in 1924. A classic in the early 20th century horror literature.

How could they believe his alibis when the security guard at the airport told them he was there and even noted down the license plate? The more I watch these videos, the less faith I have in cops.

@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013

Жыл бұрын

That is indeed the appropriate way to feel about cops. The *only* story anyone needs to hear to completely disregard the idea that the police can be trusted more than any other stranger with a gun is that of Jeffrey Dahmer. One of his victims got away, got to the cops, after having a hole drilled in his head and acid poured into it, and they gave him back to Dahmer, all the while making homophobic jokes.

@geovannyleon2187

Жыл бұрын

I think that the security guard didn't see him since in the video the guy said he saw a man( He doesn't identify the man as Robert at all in the video) doing something suspicious so he wrote the license plate and probably just left immediately. But then again why didn't the police ask Robert about who drove the car that night since he was "innocent" because of the alibi's ? The answer is simply since in the video it explains that the police didn't believe what Cindy said anymore since the alibi's covered Robert at the time , so they probably took the story as a hoax and took her words as lies due to Cindy not taking the lie detector, so they most likely dismissed her words as lies so yea. In short the security guard said something crucial that would have blow the case open with Cindy's first-hand account if the police were just bit more convinced by Cindy but because she didn't want to take the lie detector test her words were regarded false and Robert with that notion could have lied that a friend of his was at the hangar getting something for him and since the security guard to my knowledge didn't see Robert at all could not deny this lie , so yea it was a great opportunity for justice but with an unfortunate horrifying conclusion of an ending since we now know what happened to those ladies who suffered a fate so gruesome and the killer almost got away with it. If I'm wrong pls correct me.

@DennisMoore664

8 ай бұрын

Then you're paying attention. The police aren't here to protect us. At best they sometimes solve crimes after the damage is done. But if it's someone from the lower class of society they are more likely to be victimized by the police than helped by them. Damn near a guarantee if you are a minority or someone in crisis.

@gavio3830

2 ай бұрын

As much as i agree that the police didnt do their jobs here and treated the victim badly/ let a serial killer continue on the loose, i think ballen said the security guard had seen him the previous day acting weird at the airport, but it was the day after when he was there trying to fly his victim away, the alibi was from when the woman escaped, not for any previois days he was there.

@ianwalters11

2 ай бұрын

Sadly I think the cops thought who should we believe? A “respectable local business man” or a “working girl” I imagine it came down to that rationale, wrong as it is for them to make assumptions in that way. I guess it is only human to do that although life is full of people examples why we shouldn’t judge a book by its cover. Like walking into a shop wearing a suit or smart shoes shirt and tie nobody gives you a second glance. Wear a hoody security will follow you in case you shoplift. Or take the example in the brilliant dark but funny cartoon Monkey Dust (3 seasons but I think the BBC only released 1 on DVD as they were scared about some of the sketches in later seasons). Anyway….there is a sketch about 2 guys being interviewed to be pilots. The first guy looks immaculate and scored top marks for his flying ability but because he had a weird voice they didn’t give him the job. The other guy had a claw for a hand and was constantly drooling and failed all his flying tests. But then he says in a perfect English accent “well folks this your captain speaking settle in for your flight we’ll be arriving at your destination on time”. And they say “great when can you start?” and he gets the job😂

His "friends" should be charged too. Because of their lies, more people were killed.

@NoName-gd4gv

2 жыл бұрын

They probably thought it was about something small they didn’t know he was a serial killer

@suhtangwong

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoName-gd4gv yeah, like a whole bunch of cops coming to their lots.

@suhtangwong

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought! Potential prevented deaths.

@annataymond9529

2 жыл бұрын

Never cover for your friends. You’re teaching them their actions don’t have consequences, and there’s always a small possibility you’re putting people at risk.

@NoName-gd4gv

2 жыл бұрын

@@annataymond9529 yeah I agree

Imagine being the girl who escaped and finding out what she had almost been a victim of.

@scottcantdance804

3 жыл бұрын

I'm also imagining how many bodies are undiscovered in that general area. I mean, if people just discovered three by accident in an area that is so sparsely populated, imagine how many are buried or laying around in the open and just haven't been found.

@AcousticGString

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottcantdance804 There were quite a few that they never found of his. They show their pictures at the end of the movie On Frozen Ground.

@boogityhoo7452

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottcantdance804 it said there were 37 Xs on the map he had and if they found bodies in 4 of those Xs then that means the others are very likely spots of a body. Very sad

@SaintJohn201

3 жыл бұрын

And then also not be believed by the police

@normacunningham8913

3 жыл бұрын

@Michael McGrath, She already knew she would be his victim. That's why she ran. If a potential victim sees the killers face. It's obvious they're not going to let her go. She can identify them.

I've heard this story so many times, and it's still my number one fear. Absolutely terrifying.The mental torture thinking I'm free to be hunted is absolutely horrifying. Cindy is and was a hero.

@Deverik1981

20 күн бұрын

How so? I mean, I'm glad she survived, but at no point did her testimony amount to an arrest.

@user-yz8tu4et5u

14 күн бұрын

@@Deverik1981she’s a hero, because she knew she could still be hunted if she came forward. Most people who come forward about something become outed to the media And the murderers could then see her identity and legal name (which could be used for tracking) She also tried her best to help the police as much as possible ALSO the idea of someone surviving such a horrible thing can make someone a hero in other people’s eyes (as an inspiration type thing)

Let's not forget that this happened decades ago. But the fact that they doubted her story RIGHT AWAY when she refused the lie detector kinda proves they'd rather believe the perpetrator at the time. Why? Coz of her job. It's just sad how they've already got a bunch of cold murder/missing person cases in the area and they chose not to lean heavily on the first major lead they had.

Letting them “escape” to be hunted by him because he knew they couldn’t escape the property is truly horrifying. Thats pure evil

@RaoulDukeSr

3 жыл бұрын

Tuxedo cats are the best !

@rpospeedwagon

3 жыл бұрын

Disgusting that he didn't get the death penalty. Seriously disturbing.

@Lethal19

3 жыл бұрын

And then intentionally wounding (WITHOUT KILLING) them so he could hunt them even more

@deanwinchester3356

3 жыл бұрын

This happened in a Supernatural episode. Escape Sammy was smart enough to know they were hunting them.

@jesusfchrist8479

3 жыл бұрын

I read a book with similarities to this story in highschool called "The most dangerous game"

Cindy: escapes, remembers every single detail, left her shoe behind on the plane to show she had been there, takes the police everywhere they need to go. Police: well like...his friend said he was with him so...you should take a lie detector test

@misscyanide3065

2 жыл бұрын

I got so mad about that.

@emmataylor160

2 жыл бұрын

@@misscyanide3065 same... Like, of course the sex worker was making it up... Makes me so mad.

@gavinjohnson6321

2 жыл бұрын

It’s Not Fair

@GodwaldFlameReverendOfChaos

2 жыл бұрын

So true, Those police unintentionally killed someone because of their Ignorance.

@jakeevans9746

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe coz people can get framed too.

Mr. Ballen is the Bob Ross of strange dark and mysterious stories.

@kristinwojtowich8902

Жыл бұрын

Oh. My. God. That's fucking PERFECT!!!!

I’m from Alaska and went to university in Anchorage. The scariest part of this case to me was I remember sitting in a law class discussing this and we had an elderly gentleman who sat in the back who told us about going to Robert Hansen’s bakery as a small child with his mom and he would give him sugar cookies and tell him how much of a cute kid he was. He said it messed with his head as adult to learn what that man was doing on the side and reconciling it the image of kindly baker he had. He warned us that you never truly know a person. (Annnnnnd Israel Keyes was arrested around three months later that year. It was a busy time to be in anchorage 😬)

It's just crazy to me that a teenager who is clearly terrified, can describe everything about this man perfectly and was found running half naked down the road with handcuffs on is not enough evidence to say this is the guy. That's wild.

@tysoncarter7665

3 жыл бұрын

It's because cops don't generally trust prostitutes. That's one of the things that makes prostitutes easy targets for serial killers.

@emalinedickinson7492

3 жыл бұрын

@@tysoncarter7665 Pretty big assumption there. Almost like they need something more solid than a story to convict someone.

@lawlrd6655

3 жыл бұрын

@@emalinedickinson7492 you can be convicted on nothing more than a story.

@aliciaroelens2630

3 жыл бұрын

@@emalinedickinson7492 It's not an assumption, it's a pattern. Police refuse to believe anything sex workers say most of the time and it's sad

@anarchistmaverick9507

3 жыл бұрын

@@aliciaroelens2630 nah it ain’t sad 😂

Mr. Ballen is the only man with a backwards hat I can trust

@vincenthucknall7175

3 жыл бұрын

What about mark rober?

@McFartsnatcher

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. So true. Also the only guy I trust that wears so many plaid shirts.

@fanalittletruthincog8168

3 жыл бұрын

I second that!

@paulmccormick3745

3 жыл бұрын

Not only a backwards hat but a hillbilly mustache also

@CLEE93

3 жыл бұрын

Ash ketchum?

Cindy is a Hero. She was only 17. She suffered at his hands & managed to escape a serial killer & saved so many other girls from suffering the same fate. I do hope Cindy is in a good place & living the life she always wanted to

@Ihavetostartwipingbetter

Ай бұрын

You must have missed the part where Cindy didn't call the police it was the hotel clerk who involved the cops not Cindy it was only after she had to talk to authorities that she did, say someone who sees a fire and doesn't say anything...is that a hero? After she didn't alert the cops immediately Cindy wasn't believed initially she skipped town, if anyone is the hero it's the hotel clerk who called the cops

@loveistheanswer5924

Ай бұрын

​@@IhavetostartwipingbetterPut yourself in her shoes. It was traumatizing for her! She was even brave enough to flee also she helped the police even if it was not easy for her!

@harmonlanager2670

9 күн бұрын

@@IhavetostartwipingbetterDude, slag off with that. If I went through that, I’d need a breather too. But she’s the one who survived, told her story, and insisted they check the airport before getting medical attention.

how did the profiler know he had a lisp? that dude is crazy good at his job

@grapevine2506

Жыл бұрын

Not that hard to figure that out

@pianomanforlife7

Жыл бұрын

Right?! Like how does someone begin coming up with that specific of a profile…

@unknownuser8454

Жыл бұрын

@@grapevine2506 how tf would he know, he didnt know who the guy was

@fr3akfr3ak71

Жыл бұрын

So curious on this also. All the other parts make sense, but the fact he was able to look at the crimes and determine the guy had a lisp is crazy. Makes no sense how that information could be determined.

@friskyfajitas

Жыл бұрын

@@fr3akfr3ak71 i’m sure there’s got to be some kind of habits people with lisp’s have that other wouldn’t partake in, maybe it was just a really good guess based off of watching habits?

Shout out to the guy who picked her up no questions asked edit thank u for all the likes :)

@_helenadesousa

3 жыл бұрын

wtf

@Gyropop

3 жыл бұрын

@@_helenadesousa what's wrong

@_helenadesousa

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gyropop oh i thought you meant when he kiddnapped her not when she was saved

@maddog4u31757

3 жыл бұрын

I actually had a very similar situation in Waycross Georgia in 2008. I was on my way back to college, it was late (11PM-ish), and I was stopped at a stop sign trying to figure out which way to go (no GPS). As I was sitting there (no traffic at the overpass) looking at a map, a lady jumped in the passenger side and just said "drive", which I did. I was kinda freaked out, but I got her away from there and ended up taking her to the police department. Apparently her bf had gotten high on coke and started beating the shit of of her and she ran with him coming after her. People are fucking psycho.

@Psyrens

3 жыл бұрын

@@maddog4u31757 I hope you find $100 on the ground tmrw. Good on you man, that's an amazing story

Can we all just thank that security guard for doing his job so well💯💯💯

@culcune

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the motel clerk. While the security guard might not have tied the situation to a crime (keeping in mind a plane's owner would generally be an upper middle class person), he still jotted down the license plate. That was good on him for being a good observer. The clerk made the effort to call the police based on something not seeming to be right with the young guest. That got the 'ball rolling' as far as getting the murderer attention that would eventually be his undoing. On a side note, that was disturbing that a couple people corroborating a simple story could derail the entire young victim's timeline of events, especially considering she had many details up to and including a plane (where the security guard confirmed tying the guy to the girl's story).

@shaneculkin7124

3 жыл бұрын

@@culcune: You are so very correct. I mean, don't police know that family and friends will definitely LIE for someone they care about?? Alibis should only be like what polygraph tests are: Just a tool on the way to the truth behind crimes.

@colorbugoriginals4457

3 жыл бұрын

Good ppl are sometimes all that keeps life going, kudos to the mensch.

@stellarstar9340

3 жыл бұрын

RIIIIIGHT??! Thank God!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@lavalentina5318

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! 🤘🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Two people saying “ya he was here.” Is not a rock solid alibi.

Cindy perfectly described the man, the car driven, the inside of the house, ths hangar, and the plane. A securify guard even noticed suspicious activity of the same plane owner and got a locense plate number. Yet, that somehow wasn't enough to get a search warrant of his house.

@user-xo4lg5se3d

3 күн бұрын

It's a Alaska - Democrat sh*thole.

The woman who escaped was really smart for realizing that she would’ve been killed if she didn’t escape right away. That’s so terrifying to think about what could’ve happened to her if she didn’t jump out of the plane.

@xAlphaBxtch

2 жыл бұрын

If she didn’t escape she might’ve been one of those women who will never be identified. What a horrific story I hope that bastard suffered when he died

@uneebkhan7451

2 жыл бұрын

@@xAlphaBxtch and the fact that she stopped him from killing so many other women true hero

@ufn_davi

2 жыл бұрын

Yea she is real smart for that it’s sad seeing so many smart ppl end up as prostitution bc of money need 😔

@dahlizz99

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's a giveaway.. if I ever get robbed by someone who's not masked I'd be a lot more scared than if they were masked

@dead_rivals29

2 жыл бұрын

The same thing that happend to her after she did

Mr.ballen is like that substitute teacher everyone loves. Gets caught up telling stories all period and we end up getting no class work done

@aero7285

3 жыл бұрын

True...My teacher does that tho

@gmfb521

3 жыл бұрын

Haha one class we made our teacher cry an she quit. The school brought in a sub who just told us old war stories. He ended up staying on full time throughout the year, homeboy was dope.

@aero7285

3 жыл бұрын

@@gmfb521 BEST TURN OF EVENTS EVER!

@BoredGhostInk

3 жыл бұрын

I loved those types of classes

@slicedbread5692

3 жыл бұрын

I got that beat.. Senior year my english teacher had a baby like a month into the year and we had a substitute the whole rest of the year.. It was this old Pakistani dude that didnt give a fuckkkk about anything. We never opened a book. Never took a test. Never had homework or classwork. He spent the entire class period drawing students names in cool fonts on index cards to post inside our lockers. Not kidding.. That is literally all he did. Day in and day out just drawing names all fancy like. Can't blame him tho. He was getting paid to chill all day and be one of the homies. If you didnt wanna come to class you just tell him ahead of time and he had your back.. Dude was like 80 years old but the funniest old man i ever met. Mr Manda was a true OG

My mother was an English professor in maximum security prisons in the ‘80s, and was Hansen’s teacher. She said he was always polite, but that she had to be locked in a room with him. This made her uncomfortable, in spite of her experience with other killers. It’s thought that, like a more recent AK serial killer, Israel Keyes, the Butcher Baker is responsible for murders in the lower 48. For me, the heartbreaking takeaway is the blatant disregard of sex workers, people as valuable as any others.

@Near456

Жыл бұрын

Do you know if the Ak serial killer and butcher baker is in Mr. Ballens list?

@jessicaduncan9309

Жыл бұрын

@@Near456 you just saw it. They called him the Butcher Baker because he owned a bakery, and took his victims out to the bush and hunted them. We have an unnerving number of serial killers up here. Another well known one would be Isreal Keyes

@saradavidson786

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It’s very sad. I can’t imagine the horrors prostitutes face on a daily basis. What a terrible life for someone to have. There is hope for anyone to turn it around though!

@maryanne7161

Жыл бұрын

@@Near456 The Butcher Baker is this guy Hansen who is the main character of this episode.

@whidoineedthis

8 ай бұрын

Sex work is a risky lifestyle

This is exactly why so many rape victims don’t report it… they know there’s a large chance that nobody will believe them. 😢 This girl did everything she could (and did it well,) to catch this guy, but they believe his friends over a terrified half naked girl running for her life?! It’s disgusting how she was treated - my heart breaks for that girl 🥺

@dylancobalt7807

4 ай бұрын

I know so many women who are survivors who were treated like this. It's genuinely disgusting and should be a criminal offense

@aseygirl9295

4 ай бұрын

@@dylancobalt7807 It absolutely should be! It’s bad enough women are raped to begin with, but to not be believed afterwards is inhumane.

wait so let me get this straight. The girl ran out of the woods half naked, with a handcuff, told the police her story in vivid detail with nothing left out. Led them to the hanger where the plane was where she left her shoe, some guy who was working at the airport said the owner looked suspicious, they went to the guys house and everything was exactly as she had described it, but they guys friends said he was with them so they were like, "well, he must be innocent."

@saraschmidt5073

Жыл бұрын

Or at least, we need to get a lie-detector test on this girl. So infuriating.

@VerbalVantage

Жыл бұрын

Well they can’t just charge someone based on someone else’s story. Innocent until proven guilty.

@vinnytissero5765

Жыл бұрын

My question, nowadays I wonder how many false alibi there must be. I mean, you never know how can a cop truly believe a 'witness' hug ng his/her friend an alibi that they were with them. Disgusting.😳😡

@floriantosoni2444

Жыл бұрын

Yeah...this one was really bad

@everettcrutchfield7487

Жыл бұрын

@@VerbalVantage if a fuckin profiler is enough for a raid into his house then her story should have been WAYYY more than enough. it's disgusting tbh and i wouldn't have taken the lie detector test either all those cops deserve the worst

I always heard it’s better to die trying to escape then to be taken to a second location, where a much worse fate usually awaits you - and this story confirms why

@inkbold8511

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely the case! Even if she was handcuffed with gun raised at her, she should try and take the chance while in the car to try and cause a head on collision, this is only way to get attention and if someone is pointing a gun at you, then it's only soon or later that they kill you. So may as well try cause a visible accident before being taken to perpetuators place.

@juleeanng

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.. it's the thing called don't make a deal with the devil - well because he's a liar and will betray you.

@yoursleepparalysisdemon8752

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I'd rather die on my own terms than theirs. Even if there is no "worse fate", I'd force them to kill me just so they don't get the satisfaction of doing it how they want.

@pringlw

2 жыл бұрын

This is true. The bad guy wants to move you for a reason. They don’t totally control the place where they nab you, but they DO totally control the place they want to bring you. Your situation will only get worse in a second location. Fight like hell, run, scream but don’t go willingly.

@justinbrown8902

2 жыл бұрын

Yea that’s what I was thinking I’d rather die escaping, than just waiting for him to take me wherever he’s taking me to kill me

Me and my friends watched this video a few years ago, probably around the time it came out at a sleepover. We were traumatized and had achieved exactly what we clicked on it for. Great horror story.

The thing I love about ur stories and also ur country is the way research and investigations are being made on any case and also how you details ur stories ❤️❤️❤️❤️

That security guard is a good man for taking down that guys license plate, kids always trust your gut feeling

@robertmedina5997

2 жыл бұрын

What good did that do if the cops did nothing with that information except believe the killer and let him continue his killing spree.SLOPPY POLICE WORK. I hope they were fired since they didn't know how to conduct an investigation. Letting a serial killer keep killing.SMFH..

@UmarAli-tq8pl

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertmedina5997 damn that's pretty narrow minded and frankly stupid. They wouldn't have been able to do anything without substantial proof against Robert.

@jamesreney2210

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertmedina5997 The police had no legal basis to get, Hansen, to take a lie detector test. But, they could have put a tracking; device on his vehicle and looked to see where he went, if any kind of a pattern emerges. Over time, it would have. Then using a pretext, they could have questioned him. Discrepancies would soon become apparent, leading to more questions. There's little doubt that inconsistencies would occur. As, Abraham Lincoln, famously said, "To be a good liar, you better have a damn good memory". Most people don't. That's how most criminals get caught.

@jimmurphy9904

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he is!

@karenputnam9119

2 жыл бұрын

@@UmarAli-tq8pl pop

I love how a couple guy saying, “yeah he was with us” is enough to discount the girl, and security guards story and license plates and shit

@SilentKnight43

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same. Let's discount all this other overwhelming evidence on the simple "yeah, he was with us". Reminds me somewhat of the Paul Bernardo serial killer investigation...such ineptitude.

@portal740

3 жыл бұрын

world class police work right there.

@tatevikgrigoryan6360

3 жыл бұрын

Well, a girl runs without pants in a highway and calls the police for shits and giggles every day, what can police do - believe all of them? *sarcasm*

@Jannakennels

3 жыл бұрын

They did believe her, but you need to build enough evidence to arrest someone. Had she cooperated she likely could have saved some lives.

@timklafke4712

3 жыл бұрын

@@portal740 I think it's moreso the justice system's fault. I'm no expert on this stuff, but there must have been something that legally stopped them from being able to search the house or arrest the dude. Honestly the cops probably would have wanted to take that guy in then and there, but who knows.

Been following you for a month now. You are a great story teller. And thank you for your service

Part of this torture that seems to get overlooked is that fact this was in Alaska and these women had to run with no clothes on for hours or days. So not only are they handcuffed and blindfolded but they are freezing. That makes it even worse.

The worst serial killer is the one that's 10 steps ahead us. While you're liking and trusting them they're studying and plotting on you.

@carbon-based-lifeform9172

3 жыл бұрын

All serial killers are equally bad, and scary, but some are indeed smarter.

@rahulmenon4357

3 жыл бұрын

IMO that's not 10 steps ahead, but I don't go around liking and trusting people. It's about the intent people have. You might be looking for a friend, they are looking to dahmer your ass.

@thelazygamer2195

3 жыл бұрын

@@rahulmenon4357 You’d be surprised how charismatic those types of people can be. Serial Killers have to be extremely cunning so they don’t get caught. And that cunning allows them to manipulate people with ease

@anointedquad3520

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck up😓

@ioccatonyz1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the Democrat party, just ask Seth Rich...

If this girl knew almost every detail before the police went there and the police didn’t believe her , that is just messed up.

@luckyotaku4002

3 жыл бұрын

Well probably Bc she didn’t want to take the lie test thing and plus she was sex worker mostly the time they lie to police and thing I wouldn’t believe her ever Bc of her job so can’t blame them plus there was no evidence against him

@connorlawson7848

3 жыл бұрын

She didn't take the lie detector and Robert had an alibi proving he wasn't with her

@liallmiller8275

3 жыл бұрын

It's because he had a strong fabricated alibi, that consisted of 2 false witnesses

@kreeperking4849

3 жыл бұрын

my god they DID believe her, they literally checked our her story but he had a (fake) alibi

@Chadblake1

2 жыл бұрын

Lawfully, all evidence can point to someone having done something, but without proof, that person is innocent. Messed up, I know.

Wow… 2 years I’ve been watching mr Ballen… I’ve watched all his vids, and now shorts, and he never ceases to teach me something more about the strange occurrences that happen in this world.

In my early 20's I had a guy say he was a professional photographer and wanted me to meet him to take my picture. Good thing I was suspicious and thought he was a creep. It may not have ended up this bad but it's never worth the risk.

@Arakia

Жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to me in my 20s, in WA. I had stopped for directions, and as I got back in my car a man in his 40's, roundish puffy face, thinning blonde hair, approached and said he was a photographer. He wanted me to go with him. I declined, said I'd take his card. He didn't have one, and tried to convince me several more times, that I also declined, until he walked away. I drove off, and kept looking to see if I was followed. Idk what kind of creeper he was, but no doubt he was lying.

@megankendall8121

Жыл бұрын

@@Arakia that is so scary!

@maryanne7161

Жыл бұрын

@@Arakia I hope other girls didn't fall for his lies...

His “alibi” witnesses should be prosecuted for accessory to murder.

@Hug0Pro

3 жыл бұрын

They didint know he killed someone. He probably told them them some innocent bs.

@amandazavala4659

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hug0Pro yeah but ppl go to jail for accidents they didn't knew they where committing this shouldn't had been the exeption😞

@eatmyshorts8406

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hug0Pro they still lied. it dosent matter if they knew or not, as far as i know lying to the police is a crime

@AlexanderMason1

3 жыл бұрын

@@eatmyshorts8406 sure. It’s a crime, but not accessory to murder.

@lonewanderer7126

3 жыл бұрын

@@eatmyshorts8406 lying to the police is a crime? HAHAHAHA the police are lying all the time

That girl is an absolute bad ass. Only 17 and realized he was not going to let her go and she had to try and escape and risk dying then to prevent the guarantee of death later. She remembered the hanger, the plane, the man. She did everything right. Also, I don't blame her for not doing the polygraph. I'm glad she got out of town. I hope her life got better from there.

@heidihogshire

3 жыл бұрын

She could probably also see how little the cops cared and seemingly were looking for reasons to disbelieve her. In the face of all she gave them, plus the airfield security guard's information -- the dude's two friends saying they were with him is hardly "a rock solid alibi"!

@ebayerr

3 жыл бұрын

Little_Lion_Heart : She tells the cops about being chained up and assaulted in his basement,but when they have a chance to look around his house they don't go down into the basement? Just what the F? Frigging clown show could've cost someone else their life. Oh.And I guess those asshats never stopped to consider his alibis were lying for him?

@justgreen4298

3 жыл бұрын

the police where like: "uh? why you no trust our monkey tech? uh uh uh?"

@mattg4836

3 жыл бұрын

She probably though she would get arrested if she failed the lie detector

@bestoftwoworlds9925

3 жыл бұрын

She had/has bad PTSD but was basically scared straight. Read the book Butcher Baker if you are interested in this case.

The fact that serial killers with confessions don’t get the death penalty is beyond me.

@TruthNerds

4 ай бұрын

Alaska doesn't have the death penalty.

Why is it an alibi for friends to say someone was with them the night before? That’s insane. These cops should do jail time for their negligence and idiocy

I’m not surprised that Cindy refused the lie detector test. To be a victim of such a horrific crime and then to hear that the cops don’t believe you would probably be enough to break you.

@xxnario7286

3 жыл бұрын

@Azzir And you didn't understand the comment. When police asked her to do the test, it meant that they didn't believe her. So, they didn't believe her -> asked for a polygraph test -> she said "no". It doesn't matter what MrBallen said. For police to ask someone to do a polygraph test, they have to have suspicion that the person is not telling the truth. The fact that she refused the test only reassured them in their own suspicion. They didn't think that there could have been another reason to refuse the test, other than lying.

@luigicadorna8644

3 жыл бұрын

In any case, I’m pretty surprised that given all of the information that the victim was able to provide that matched the killer, they dropped him as a suspect immediately just because his friend vouched for him over the phone. Not only that, but they then started doubting the victim. You know, the woman who was found running out of the forest, naked and terrified, wearing handcuffs. At the very least they should have asked the guy if he would go down to the station to answer some questions.

@crescentmoon5859

3 жыл бұрын

@@luigicadorna8644 Wasn't it pants off and no shoes or socks?

@mentalpopcorn2304

3 жыл бұрын

@@luigicadorna8644 you must have missed the information given. 2 friends gave alibis that lined up. I doubt when asking, the cops would be fully transparent and ask "were you with __ at this time last night?" And it'd be more like "what were you doing around (this time) last night?" Ultimately I don't know how it was asked, so it's all speculation. But if it is the latter, for 2 separate people to give matching alibis would be pretty convincing. At the end of the day, she should've just taken the polygraph test. It would've erased any doubt and brought the killer to justice much faster. Cops ask for polygraph tests to determine what is truth and what isn't.

@lizzystar5346

3 жыл бұрын

@@mentalpopcorn2304 Well the poly graphs have been proven to be ineffective. Lots of false positives and false negatives Not as reliable as once thought Just a tid bit

Only 17? That's so sad. And some of them were just girls, still teenagers. I hope Cindy was able to get the help and support she needed after that.

@marielynn7369

3 жыл бұрын

Omg me too💔

@jennharrison5579

3 жыл бұрын

Yes actually she did. I saw a show on this and it said she went back to the streets but not for hooking. She now helps other hookers get off the streets

@tyrannosaurusbecs2571

3 жыл бұрын

@@jennharrison5579 That's amazing!

@kailamaree4402

3 жыл бұрын

@@jennharrison5579 Do you remember the name of it? I would love to watch it.

@jennharrison5579

3 жыл бұрын

@@kailamaree4402 it was a 20/20 episode but I can't remember the name of the episode.

How did he get through his like button shenanigans without a giggle! Mr. Ballen is awesome! One of my favorite channels on this platform. Mr. Ballen I hope you see this. I'm a hospice patient and live in a locked down nursing facility. Ever since COVID hit we've been locked down. You've helped keep my mind sharp, kept me entertained while imparting knowledge and also the occasion giggle. Thank you sir. I'd also like to thank you for your service. I wish you a long, successful and enriched life. Thanx again 👍

They made a movie out of this. So sad that this happened but the movie makes you feel how they felt. Them poor girls. Very well done Mr. Ballen on telling this story. Your very good at telling great stories

refusing to take a lie detector test isn't a sign of guilt or trying to hide something. its pretty common knowledge that those things are notoriously unreliable so lots of people refuse to take them out of fear that they might have a false positive and wrongly incriminate them.

@rsgonga2985

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing during the video.

@yolo9050

2 жыл бұрын

Right? Like imagine if she had taken the lie detector test and it tested her as a liar, then police would have completely gone the other direction with her case, and even in finding the new evidence they may have tried to search for another suspect cause "Well Cindy said it was this guy, but our lie detector said she was lying, so it must not be him"

@tekubus

2 жыл бұрын

Lie detectors are a pseudo science.

@ashgamingrobloxminecraft4237

2 жыл бұрын

NoPE

@leviisfine6829

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashgamingrobloxminecraft4237 uhh yes

i think its insulting to ask Cindy to do a polygraph test after all she went through and all the details she provided to them. Poor Cindy.

@ssjalpha6593

2 жыл бұрын

How??? He had two alibis and his apartment was clean. It was her word against 3. They can’t just arrest a guy because someone said he did something. Stop thinking with emotions.

@jayandny.

2 жыл бұрын

@@ssjalpha6593 well if they actually would've dug deep into the so called alibis like sooooo many cops have done before which is pretty common sense then they would've figured it out. Use your head!

@leviosa5405

2 жыл бұрын

@@ssjalpha6593 well Cindy was just 17 and went through hell right before that. She was definitely thinking with her emotions.. she probably was spooked as the cops didn't trust her and the polygraph is not 100% accurate all the time. She probably feared she would end up loosing and was frustrated about the whole ordeal..🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

@brennathecatlover4360

2 жыл бұрын

@@jayandny. but if 2 people say the same thing it’s obviously gonna sound believable as most people would think and they couldn’t at first find anything to prove he did it

@Petra44YT

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! This is outright discrimination because she was an exotic dancer.

Wow that profiler was a pro. How do they do that, though? Also, glad Cindy made it out

Thank you Mr Ballen!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours

How could they not trust her, she literally described his house and plane etc.

@viciousbite8161

2 жыл бұрын

She also refused a lie detector test and found no evidence about him being a serial killer

@arnljot9030

2 жыл бұрын

@@viciousbite8161 It's still weird to totally drop the case and see him as innocent, why would she run naked out of nowhere and describe everything in detail....

@mymelody4098

2 жыл бұрын

@@viciousbite8161 i can understand why she didn’t want to take the lie detector test, and having the police ask her to take the test showed they were having doubts, and honestly being traumatized like that and still being doubted i wouldn’t take the test either considering the lie detector isnt really accurate

@shubhampradhan32

2 жыл бұрын

@@arnljot9030 Bro she refused to take lie detector test, why would police believe her. Police did the right thing they checked on his house and found no evidence. what more could police have done??

@shubhampradhan32

2 жыл бұрын

@@mymelody4098 I think police did whatever they could! In underdeveloped countries Police wouldn't even take it seriously.

I can't imagine what that poor woman had to go through. No one should ever have to endure torture like that. Good on that security guard for following his gut feeling.

@BenjiTheStaffy

3 жыл бұрын

Those*

@johnnyfire3860

3 жыл бұрын

Right, those women

@glennmayer469

3 жыл бұрын

and the cops still gave the killer the benefit of the doubt even with so many red flags smh

@braedondavies9592

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough, all of those women.

I love your usage of your words to represent the content. You saved me a lot of time. And your whole gestures in the video when i watch c: The woods background is funny from my perspective as a new viewer of your channel and zero knowledge of story telling in general ":).

I was held hostage for 8 months as a teen, but I am so thankful he wasn't as sick as a lot of these guys are.

The idea of him hunting those poor women is horrifying. I can't imagine how terrified they must have felt, slowly realising that there was no escape and they were going to die, even though they'd tried so hard to get away.

@gamechan7889

3 жыл бұрын

WDYM THAT SOUND SO COOL, jkjk

@pissbutt5702

3 жыл бұрын

@@gamechan7889 😐

@yellowpeepee6012

3 жыл бұрын

@@gamechan7889 sounds hawt af

@gamechan7889

3 жыл бұрын

@@yellowpeepee6012 what XD XD

@lindairvine7679

3 жыл бұрын

Terrible 😞

it’s so sad that they asked cindy to take the lie detector test instead of asking him.

@rajeevdwarika4788

3 жыл бұрын

It is beyond sad.

@TymP321

3 жыл бұрын

Amen. They already had a known predator on adult workers, yet they're going to disregard her. Shameful.

@tylerbailey470

3 жыл бұрын

Typical police officer is under intelligent nypd had a district court case for not hiring a guy who scored too high they admitted to it but were found by the court of course that this was ok.

@lonelyfans6935

3 жыл бұрын

@mike scott This wasnt just a simple r@pe case, she was literally kidnapped. Her story describing his house was enough for the cops to actually consider a polygraph test for him. and compared to the percentage of r@pes that are true, the percentage of ppl who lie are extremely small. Ur so sad smh.

@crazyyyou

3 жыл бұрын

Yup! Very messed up.

I’m hooked on this channel right now, and it’s ironic how great of naps I’ve taken with the strange dark and mysterious playing in the background.

him letting them go and run around the woods like prey and then hunting them is so horrific.

That's crazy how everything she said about his house, him and even the plane added up but they still questioned her

@HeilRay

3 жыл бұрын

Guess they need more to go on before they waste the time demanding a search warrant. Hear in some places its almost impossible to get without some absolute solid proof.

@KimberlyBishh

3 жыл бұрын

They didn't see these women as people.

@Heather-xm9ul

3 жыл бұрын

I'm inclined to agree with Kimberly. Prostitutes, strippers, homeless people, etc. aren't people. They should be! But to many, they have to prove they're human enough to be worth the effort.

@KimberlyBishh

3 жыл бұрын

@@Heather-xm9ul If you are poor or if you dont match what a woman is supposed to be then you arent worthy of life. Men too, if homeless men were being killed, it might be a curiosity why but not a demand to know. Dragging their feet to solve murders of people that no one really cares about...monstrous.

@Heather-xm9ul

3 жыл бұрын

@@KimberlyBishh agreed. You live exactly as they expect in the system, with the ability to offer incentives, or you will NEVER receive their best efforts.

Does anyone else completely forget that he hides something because they are completely captivated by his voice and the story?!? I know it’s not just me!!

@civial21

3 жыл бұрын

If im not looking at his face i feel like i can't concentrate on the story 😅

@Toriana_Shavon_LaVannah_Blade

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never looked for the avatar. I’m always too engrossed in the story. So, it’s not just you Kimberly 😉

@WyattRyeSway

3 жыл бұрын

I usually can’t find them even after I have read where in the video it is. I’m hopeless. Maybe I’m just concentrating on the story. I don’t know.

@Toriana_Shavon_LaVannah_Blade

3 жыл бұрын

@@WyattRyeSway Same here, you’re not alone either.

@katherineheasley6196

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I use this like a podcast because his storytelling is so good that his voice alone is enough to visualize the whole thing. Even when I've watched because of there being a picture or video with the story, though, I'm too distracted by the story to find the secret.

I've been watching for a while and just wanted to say thank you.. You do a great job tell there story's.... Thank you.

This story was bone chilling, to say the least. And this is my first time hearing about this. He's definitely one of the worse serial killer.

The fact those guys corroborated his stories to give him an alibi… ridiculous. I hope they feel guilty that they potentially helped him get away with murder for much longer than necessary.

@cookiesnmilk9200

2 жыл бұрын

I hope they got charged

@teradavis7811

2 жыл бұрын

who the hell decides that that's an alibi anyway, there was no proof what so every!!!

@shanesawyer5103

2 жыл бұрын

Lazy police work

@notme222

2 жыл бұрын

​@@cookiesnmilk9200 They were threatened with perjury but I believe the charge was dropped in exchange for them testifying against him. Which I agree, really sucks. You shouldn't get away with lying to the police during an investigation.

@notme222

2 жыл бұрын

@@teradavis7811 That's the definition of alibi. In this country proof is required for guilt. We don't require people to prove they're innocent. It would have been nice if the cops had leaned on them to check for inconsistencies. But then again, maybe they planned to once they had a lie detector report to back up Cindy's story.

Never realised how much I like the strange, dark and mysterious in story format

@Ahjude17

3 жыл бұрын

I knew that when I was seven it's been four years of liking the strange

@RatSpleam

3 жыл бұрын

Once you go strange, dark and mysterious you never go back!

@PINECONE-gc2jz

3 жыл бұрын

with distracting hand motions

@CoatedDolphin

3 жыл бұрын

3, 4 even 5 times a week

@AJ-qe5xj

3 жыл бұрын

I usually don’t cuz I’m a wimp with scary/horror stories but there is something so good about the way he tells all. These stories, I’m addicted.

Your story telling is both interesting and captivating🎉 always looking forward to them 💥🔥🔥

Well... new fear unlocked 🥺 I hope Cindy has the most wonderful life, and I am heartbroken for all those women and how terrified and helpless they felt.

Everyone's a gangsta until the strange dark and mysterious is delivered in story format

@Gas2311

3 жыл бұрын

Hagahah

@spaghettibong3606

3 жыл бұрын

this needs more likes

@Christian-qq9ys

3 жыл бұрын

Out Generation is the best 😎😎😎

@davidkelley9072

3 жыл бұрын

Hilarious

@Gas2311

3 жыл бұрын

@@spaghettibong3606 no because its an old joke

I was a teenager, living in Anchorage, at the time of this serial killer. I have been to Hansen’s Bakery. My good friend, KT, WORKED AT HANSEN’S BAKERY! She used to bring us donuts and apple turnovers every week! Thank GOD, my friend wasn’t an exotic dancer.

@messagefromme9991

3 жыл бұрын

That is crazy and so good to hear nothing happened must be scary just thinking being put into that situation 😱

@cryptonarekhan6536

3 жыл бұрын

LOL send this video to her

@ruka8106

3 жыл бұрын

I was an FBI agent who was a part of search warrant,

@wallnut5910

3 жыл бұрын

I can't tell if that's just classic America or a horrific case

@doubled1108

3 жыл бұрын

@@wallnut5910 definitely some shit that goes on more often then you would think I’m America I’m sad to say. There are many evil people in the world and somehow a lot of them seem to be in America or that’s al least where they get the most publicity

My Brother in Arms always epic stories and you tell them so well. Thank you.

This guy is so evil. Cindy was very brave. She probably didn't want to take the test because she didn't trust the police to protect her and it would take a few more hours. Also she couldn't believe they needed more from her after all she'd told them. This story was one of the toughest to listen to.

Just knowing those men lied to save Robert without knowing what he did. Ultimately making the police completely distrust a survivor is maddeningly frustrating.

@drohio

Жыл бұрын

I feel like they know and do it too

@marcoaraiza9381

10 ай бұрын

​@@drohioyeah, a psycho like Robert probably offered them chances to assualt the women in his basement which is why they covered for him

@dwaynewrighton8547

9 ай бұрын

Hunters club. Wouldn't surprise me if they took turns hunting

@DennisMoore664

8 ай бұрын

I'm with the other people here who have said they probably knew what he did and may have taken part in either the rapes and/or the murders. They should have been arrested and charged for providing false alibis.

@dwaynewrighton8547

8 ай бұрын

It's why he straight up forgot where some of the victims were buried - they weren't his kills

The moral of the story is: never ever comply with anyone who asks you to lie to the police and be an alibi for them! You will not only protect yourself but could possibly save a current victim & future victims of serial killers.

@logeyperogi1805

2 жыл бұрын

If someone said they needed an alibi, I’d lie and say I would be one but when the time would come for me to make good on my promise, well, a promise and a law aren’t the same thing, I can make a promise, but unlike a law, I don’t need to hold true to it

@mikemcdermott7760

2 жыл бұрын

As I recall he told them he was with prostitutes and thats why he needed the alabi. Alaska in the '80s was still wild and overwhelmingly male. Whats weird is how many serial killers were operating in the Pacific NW at the same time. So many ultra young prostitutes then too.

@McFunnyBone

2 жыл бұрын

Moral of the story is actually to be more cautious with strangers. But we only learned that in 1st grade.

@ash_tray

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! He could’ve saved lives if he didn’t lie for him.

@scottsmith4145

2 жыл бұрын

I hope the alibis got hefty fines or jail sentences for lying to police. Its insane anyone would do that!

I’m on a roll catching up! Been binge watching your vids for 3 straight days!

I saw the movie they made about this, Frozen Ground with John Cusack, that description by the survivor, Cindy, was depicted very closely in the movie, when watching it it creeped me out so much, the whole thing in his house was so eerie, terrifying and depressing

When he gave the officers permission to look around why didn’t they check the basement

@treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

3 жыл бұрын

My guess is that they did but he maybe hid the chain? Or there could've been like no blood what are they gonna do with no evidence other than a ceiling accessory

@eatmyshorts8406

3 жыл бұрын

police just dosent care most of the time tbh, they probably did the bare minimum and left

@luckyotaku4002

3 жыл бұрын

@@eatmyshorts8406 you wasn’t there don’t really know if they check everything or not he probably hid thing serial killer are pretty good with that

@adamm.michael7500

3 жыл бұрын

They were probably his hunting buddies. "Nope nothing to see here." The other maps sitting in there dresser drawers.

@beth-annrock237

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing! Didn’t make any sense why they didn’t! Especially when that woman had said she was in his basement.

One thing I’ve learned from watching this channel is keep your eye on the well-groomed dude who owns his own business, home, car, and seems like a pillar of the community. 9 times out of 10 he’s the guy with a body count.

@shanelorrison5224

3 жыл бұрын

In this instance it pays to be a loser.

@jamie6387

3 жыл бұрын

Morgan Woodard the same thing black people hate cops do to them?

@kikifox7111

3 жыл бұрын

@@norcalbowhunter3264 they probably didn’t mean it’s literally 9 out of 10 people, but that’s just how it feels like 😅

@shanelorrison5224

3 жыл бұрын

👍🏼

@0r0r0

3 жыл бұрын

Creeps, abusers, users, and general psychopaths hide in society. They know how to blend in. Always trust what people do and say. If they seem off, it's probably because they are.

Born and raised in Anchorage, Alaska for 11 years its crazy to know this happened nearby me also talking about the fact that victims were going missing in the city I'm born from

That was so intense. I have such hatred for that man. You did a great job describing a monster snd also showing compassion for his victims

@MrPerre80

3 жыл бұрын

Is`t just me that will make a blood eagle on this man. If he was still living. Northern style..

@shunsweeney9020

3 жыл бұрын

A

@stacczk7182

3 жыл бұрын

@@shunsweeney9020 A

@ancientsoul5608

3 жыл бұрын

It's just hilarious to me in a way though, because people will be fascinated by these types of stories and they will easily see how real it is that evil people exist in our world - people who are psychologically evil predators. But then their brains do some type of amazing short-circuiting thing when you attempt to explain to them that these types of people are the people who run the world. They will sit there and deny it for hours, no matter how much research you have done and no matter how much evidence you give them to prove it. Evil people exist. Period. And they figured out (10s of thousands of years ago, if not longer) that if they all come together and work in unity to psychologically dominate and enslave the masses that they can become the "gods" of the earth. The evidence is OVERWHELMING if you actually do your research. But I can already see people trying to attack me for saying this now... Lol the mind-control and programming is incredibly strong. Wake up people. You ARE slaves. Your only hope is to pursue your freedom at all costs. Educate yourselves and your friends and family. Do your research. Knowledge and awareness is the first step.

@stacczk7182

3 жыл бұрын

@@ancientsoul5608 💯

I totally understand why Cindy took off; when the police start looking at YOU as the trouble maker, it’s only a matter of time before you’re locked up, instead of the the actual perpetrator.

@TrineDaely

2 жыл бұрын

That's especially true for sex workers. It's even worse that in most places a trafficking victim will do more time for the forced prostitution than the people who sold them.

@mickefy682

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrineDaely Yes!! The laws need to change to PROTECT those workers so they’re not afraid to seek help.

@victoriapulcifer6218

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention Cindy probably knew that her results would be impacted by her having recently been horribly assaulted and being forced to flee for her life. She was so scared the whole time that the polygraph would have surely implied she was lying. Even if they wanted to polygraph Robert too, if most people pit the words of a hysteric woman, a prostitute no less, against the words of a clean white man that kept his cool under pressure and freely let police investigate him... Tbh, I'd get the hell out too.

@JamesMerlaut

2 жыл бұрын

@@mickefy682 The Police didn't distrust her; they needed more than a single testimony in order to get a search warrant, they needed more evidence on Robert. There was also another possibility that could not be ruled out in their minds as they investigated... she could be an angry ex girlfriend, that's why she knew all of those specific details. They of course believed her story, but they needed sonething to compel a judge to find just cause to issue a search warrant on a person's property. In this case... it was the results of the lie detector. That would prompt a judge to issue a search warrant, therefore allowing them to gather the evidence they needed to convict Robert. Police can't just charge into someone's property and flip it upside down. Judges can't just give search warrants out like candy otherwise the State can be sued. This is going to sound like victim blaming... but Cindy should have taken the lie detector.

@Kiterpuss

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesMerlaut Lie detector tests aren't viable bases for legal documents like warrants. The judge could have signed off the warrant without any further evidence if the officers stated reasonable suspicion; if there wasn't enough evidence to support that suspicion before the LDT, the LDT wasn't going to make any difference.

Omg you you have the knack of building suspense!

"rock solid alibi" and "testimony of a friend" are incongruous concepts.

It's scary to imagine how many killers out there currently blend in with the people around them and have zero suspicion against them.

@joshmocherman5528

3 жыл бұрын

And how many active serial killers there are at any given time yet never get found out until it's too late, if at all!

@yoloodevil4170

3 жыл бұрын

Yup and with how big the U.S is compared to other countries the ratio of potential killers is even bigger.

@olderloverxx

3 жыл бұрын

And why there are SOOO many in USA!

@RebelTvShka

3 жыл бұрын

@@olderloverxx Because they can get away with it easier. It's not an anomaly in the human mind, it's not abnormal. The only thing keeping most people in line is their own self interest and values.

@willber318

3 жыл бұрын

I just had to google the homicide rates for the uk 😟 I hadn’t given it much thought before now

Anyone else find Mrballen and now watches every video that comes out as soon as you can?

@ikeukira6678

3 жыл бұрын

Yes i do found him a couple days ago and have been binge watching his videos since

Cindy is a fine example of why, even when the odds are not favorable, you must find it in yourself to set your mental and emotional resources to working on your own survival. In whatever form. You may not even survive. But a small chance is better than no chance. And Cindy used strategic compliance. She picked her moment to act well. She possessed great presence of mind. Didn't waste time and even brought the police back to the airport. Her choice to act saved not only herself but no doubt many others. And brought this monster into the light. A frustrating process. But at least he wasn't allowed to slip away into the anonymity afforded by his wealth and social status.

Cindy is a hero, She came back to the scene of the crime as fast as possible to get that guy

Cindy is the real hero of this story. I hope she's ok. What a powerful girl.

@gobo6175

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you,someone actually talking about the case for once

@rocketmanfossel1174

3 жыл бұрын

She surely was mentally hurt after seeing that police didn't believe her after all the torture she experienced. She truly lost the trust in humanity

@Misssydney

3 жыл бұрын

@@gobo6175 was going to say the same thing. If you didn’t know or see my comment, Robert Hansen owned a popular bakery that a lot of people suspected they ate his victims. I was born and raised in anchorage Alaska and already knew about this.

@bmackenzie2740

3 жыл бұрын

@@Misssydney oh wow! That’s horrible! I remember reading a book along the same story line many years ago but never realized it was a true story. Those poor women 😞

@gobo6175

3 жыл бұрын

@@Misssydney wow

Love your stories Mr Ballen. 👍🧡

I'm so enraged by this. Instead of idk putting those men through a lie detector they accuse the underaged victim of a violent sex crime of lying and ask her to take a lie detector test. I would have refused and left too. That poor girl. All those poor women. 💔

@jessicavangenderen6540

Жыл бұрын

@TiredKammi she was literally found fleeing for her life with clear signs of restraint and assault. But SHE got the lie detector. Gtfo.

@margosmith3459

Жыл бұрын

By refusing and leaving you’re not getting any revenge on the guy and you’re just letting him get away with hurting more people. Shit choice.

@jessicavangenderen6540

Жыл бұрын

@@margosmith3459 it's not about revenge at all? If they are already believing this guy over such an obvious victim, why would she have ANY faith or conviction in their willingness to help her? They are treating her like a liar after a seriously traumatic experience. People who believe the cops are only there to help and find the truth have clearly never had to deal with the police when dealing with sex crimes. I was 15 when I tried to report long-term SA and was put in a freezing cold interview room, alone with a male officer who crowded me, spoke over me, and condescendingly said "that sounds like it would have been painful" and also asked why I wasn't more upset when I was detailing my experience for the report. He made it his mission to discourage me from making an official report, he said after such a long time since the first incident and the last (which had been several years prior) attempting to investigate would have been a waste of their time. I told him that I wanted to report it since the man involved was a foster carer and literally had a pool of vulnerable children in his care. Still a waste of their time and resources. I left feeling like I'd just been through a freaking battle and shared my most traumatic experiences for absolutely nothing. I can't imagine trusting the police after barely escaping with my life and then having them tell me I have to take a lie detector test because they found the guy I had told them did that to me, but he says he didn't do it so, you must be lying.

@unknownuser8454

Жыл бұрын

So ur a retarded feminist? They had a solid alibi with 3 ppl, she couldve been lying.

@unknownuser8454

Жыл бұрын

@@jessicavangenderen6540 Girls lie abt rape all the damn time and girls bitch abt everything. So y would ppl take women serious

Wait...this girl gave them detailed accounts of the hanger, the plane, the house and the guy that ALL checked out yet when this man’s FRIENDS gave him an alibi they figured it must be the girl that is mistaken somehow? Make that make sense.

@raven6949

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still trying to understand yet it still isn't adding up to me either, smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

@hx5525

3 жыл бұрын

@@raven6949 I mean, she refused the lie detector test and ran away, the guy had alibi so was innocent until proven guilty. Anyways from the police’s pov, the girl could’ve been on drugs or something too

@KateBates22zabu

3 жыл бұрын

@@raven6949 no. She must have had bruises from being hung on a chain & assaulted? They didn't even do a rape kit....

@rebeccamarie6

3 жыл бұрын

Right!! WTH!! Wonder how they feel now? Hopefully stepped up their game., but the loss of life for them to learn a lesson.. blood on their hands, hope they slept well

@grover6621

3 жыл бұрын

It’s called sexism, the police are more likely to believe the male than the female

I keep thinking that ghosts, demons, crocs , sharks all these deadly stuff are the most scary stuff, however I forgot that humans really are the most terrifying

@stubert94

3 жыл бұрын

Humans are apex predators

@lauren9373

3 жыл бұрын

Humans? Men?

@kathylain7795

3 жыл бұрын

You do have a point some people are just f****** the head

@percnowitzki1724

3 жыл бұрын

These humans are demons

@muddfriend6885

3 жыл бұрын

My lady told me her mama said that all the time

Police will leave high profile people suspecting victim itself..what a society

MrBallen playing while driving down the roadways is the only thing to keep me calm these days

Craziest part is lie detectors aren’t admissible as evidence in court, and refusing to take them is the recommended move any attorney will suggest

@shane9515

2 жыл бұрын

This is because if you lie in one of the test questions or clench your butt you can beat the detector so its not able to be used

@drossi101

2 жыл бұрын

A defense attorney will tell you no to. She wasn’t a suspect, her “attorney” was the state. Like you said it isn’t admissible and Police departments haven’t used polygraphs for evidence in decades. More than likely they were using it to see how she would react to taking one. So her refusing and leaving town didn’t help.

@orionthehunter217

2 жыл бұрын

@@shane9515 Penn & Teller did an episode of _Bullshit!_ about that. Apparently beating a polygraph is really easy, anyone can do it if they understand how it works.

@williamwilson5718

2 жыл бұрын

US law enforcement put way too much stock in polygraphs. This is a good example of someone who refused to take one even though she was almost certainly telling the truth. It shouldn't be viewed as suspicious but it basically is.

@itsacarolbthing5221

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that they weren't admissible. Why are they so often suggested, then?

As someone who studied psychology it makes me so angry that the justice system would care so much about lie detector tests.

@pjpelefoti80

2 жыл бұрын

Well judging by the story at that time after they had just finished talking to the serial killer and looked around his house everything would match the description cindy would give but like he said their was no evidence of an abuse in the house and the killer said he was with his friends the night before so they go to the friends interview them one by one and sadly their stories would consult with eachother, even though most of the police forces knew or suspected he was the killer they could not make an arrest without evidence, cindy may have been the evidence but the police cant trust her because the house didn't show any signs of her being abused their, and so they had to either run with what the serial killer had said or suspect that cindy is lying (which at that time seeed like the only answer even though they had reason to suspect this man was the serial killer they were looking for.)

@halogod0298

2 жыл бұрын

What does that have to do with anything? They had an alibi, they did nothing wrong. Nobody cares what you study

@robpierce4712

2 жыл бұрын

So, tell me. The suspect has not one, but two people supporting his alibi. There is no physical evidence at the property. The victim is describing the house, car, and plane in detail (obviously she has been there). She could have been an ex-girlfriend or he could have been a John and she was trying to frame him. What did you expect the police to do? Obviously it didn't turn out that way, but the police can't just arrest people with no evidence at all.

@Random_Person1023

2 жыл бұрын

@@pjpelefoti80 He literally had an entire day to make up a fake alibi. Do you know how easy it is to convince two friend to lie for you?

@mayn90s19

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they're dumb lol

This guy is the basis for the serial killer in the final season of Dexter. It's crazy to watch the show and to know that this person actually (more or less) existed.

It isn´t the fisrt video I ever watch of Mr. Ballen, but somehow is one of the videos I remember the most of him and it gave me material to work for a homework I was stuck on hahaha. I thank that day that I stumbled across that video on facebook that let me to this channel therfore to this video. I wasn´t the first and pretty sure I won´t be the last person to enjoy and be entertained with his videos. Luv u Mr. Ballen :3

Dang, Cindy's ability to immediately read that her life was in danger and see past the chains and being held captive literally saved her life. It kept her fighting to get away!

@Jp-mn1rq

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don’t know how she figured that one out. Not sure if it was the fact she was abducted and chained in his basement or if maybe he said something that just didn’t sit right. You kidding me?

@juleeanng

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jp-mn1rq Cindy could be an avid crime novels reader or crime tv series fan or what not..

@tsuki-3699

2 жыл бұрын

Cindy is extremely smart, if only the police weren’t so ignorant.. they would’ve discovered this case easy. Cindy helped, gave them enough evidence.. and they still didn’t bother just because his friends said he was there… should’ve been more suspicious when even the guy said himself they would say yes he was there with them.

@Taydrum

2 жыл бұрын

@@tsuki-3699 IDK, smart people usually don't whore themselves out at age 17

@adithyaramesh5634

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jp-mn1rq well he her a lot about him. Why would someone who raped you tell you about them and let you see their face if they intended on Letting you go