The concepts explained in here are incredibly valuable. I have been really wanting to tackle the higher ascension levels, but I kept falling on my face over and over. If I ever beat a run, it wasn't due to careful consideration, planning, and preparation. I was just getting lucky from time to time. Despite the losing, I really wanted to improve and learn to make better choices. Since watching this video (and a bunch of other runs/videos) I have been able to soar through ascension levels 5 - 15. Along the way, I've had consecutive wins, and at most, I think one of the levels took me like 3 runs to do. Just wanted to give a huge kudos to Jorbs for all of his hard work making these instructional videos for people like me who are really wanting to get better at the game. It has helped immeasurably.

@B3_6

3 жыл бұрын

Did you make a spreadsheet when you play now? Or just remembered what was talked about?

@DerekJass

3 жыл бұрын

@@B3_6 I don't do spreadsheets generally. I mostly just paid attention to the thought processes behind choosing cards. After much play myself and watching 100s of hours of his runs, I find myself predicting his picks a lot more frequently. I notice synergies with relics and even potions much more than I did months ago. I don't think spreadsheets are the best way to approach the game if you're looking to enjoy it. Simply paying attention will improve things enough.

It's amazing the difference Ascension 15 ending Act 3 and Ascension 20 with Heart fight makes. Cool to look back on the early game.

Thanks for this Jorbs. I got hardstuck on A18 for silent and realized I needed to learn the game more instead of doing the same wrong things. This video is over a year old but after watching it, I took a lot of concepts and beat A18 in the same day. Thanks a lot and I look forward to watching more of your other videos.

"you could die in a car crash on the way there" "I've done that once in my life, fortunately it was ok"

Thanks for the explanation of trying to play the game the best way, and especially how to to that (excel sheet and stuff)!

Just wanted to say thanks a lot for this video. I am a fairly new player and had been stuck on A5, but after watching this I smashed through it no problem. The main thing that helped was thinking about what my deck was lacking to deal with what was coming up, rather than cards I thought were good but didn't help. I learned to really evaluate what was offered and make good decisions.

Fantastic explanation of Slay the Spire strategy -- thanks Jorbs!

incredible video. i had like 30 hours in spire, with NO wins.(yes, im kinda stupid lmao) I watched this video and beat it first run after watching. you're a legend tysm

@blacktimhoward4322

4 жыл бұрын

I can relate to this pretty hard

@duruiz

4 жыл бұрын

I have 20 hours, no winning yet. btw it is the first card game I'm playing in my life

The world cup talk at the start of this video is pretty wild considering what just went down.

I'm about 36 minutes into the video and I'm already very impressed with your approach to decision making in this game. There's a "stay in the moment" element that runs alongside with how you plan to clear the run IMO and it's really refreshing, enlightening, and affirming in some ways. I've got about 200 hours in this game, but looking to improve my play to clear runs more consistently. Looking forward to more of your insight.

I love this video

@xSlimeWorldx

3 жыл бұрын

wait you play this game to Sam?

Followed up watching this video with beating the heart for the first time after about a week of playing. It's super cool to see how systems get optimized by players who push their systems to their limits, StS does such a good job at so many game design elements.

After watching this video I finally managed to complete a run and unlock the 4th character. Thank you.

I beat the game for the first time while watching this. Not sure what really did it, maybe just the confidence of watching someone experienced play it? Who knows. But I made it, so thanks homie.

years later. I just found your channel. Thanks! there are a couple of things I wish were updated, but I can't wait to work through more of your content.

Game: "Oh sorry you said you wanted better shops? Here have Shuriken AND Kunai. CHOOSE."

After watching this vid, it took me one try to get to the next ascension level with Silent XD Clearly I was not understanding Silent very well before

@Camcolito

4 жыл бұрын

Silent is a really cool character.

I think I'm having more fun learning from you then any other time in my 30+ hrs of slay the spire so far

In regards to making the decision about gaining gold in exchange for a curse, there's one specific reason why you want to hoard at least 200 gold before entering the shop: Membership Card. A permanent 50% discount on ALL services is a massive investment.

@edcellwarrior

4 жыл бұрын

It’s pretty unlikely that the Membership Card will be in any given store, so that really shouldn’t influence your decisions

@friendlyplayer92

3 жыл бұрын

It depends. How many stores are u hitting after that? What is the ROI of membership card? It also costs minimum of 75g and a removal to remove the curse.

I was kind of hoping that you'd keep on updating the spreadsheet with each card pick. Was probably wise not to. I also think that the odds of dying in a car crash while streaming StS are pretty slim.

@edcellwarrior

4 жыл бұрын

When the mobile version comes out, you’ll be able to play while driving, significantly increasing your chances of dying in a car crash

That "As a scientist" guy... Great vid, subed.

I would have taken the Apotheosis in the first shop so I'm surprised Jorbs didn't discuss it as an option

I wish you covered all relics in shops. I had to look Art of War up, since I hadn't seen it yet. There are a few things you repeat multiple times, which makes the video longer, while some explainations on why you won't consider certain cards/relics in a shop at all would be welcome

Can we ask questions in the comments? On floor 2/3, getting a curse and maybe removing it means that all card removal costs more, meaning that 3 removals later you haven't gotten a benefit overall. Is it still a good investment to make near the beginning of the run even if it means you might lose money in the long term?

@Jorbs

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, definitely still worth it. The second half of the run almost doesn't matter compared to how swingy the first half of the run can be, so thinking that far ahead isn't worth it.

Thank you very much! would be great if you post timestamps for the video

Good video, I like explained playthroughs of games almost exclusively, it's much harder to learn from simple lets plays, though not impossible. Due to the overabundance of mtg content I only watch content creators who explain their choices, and I'm glad to see some options for that in this game too. I also very much enjoy how calm and intelligent you come off, compared to some other youtube slay the spire content creators especially

Love this kind of content. Would love to see more of this on youtube. Could do with some editing down for relevance, but it's also fun to hang out!

Damn I wanna see that defect run now

@ayyalamos We see everything! 1:20:36

is jorbs going to do an A20 overexplained now that he wins about as much now on A20 as he did here in A15

2:37:58 was amazing. "Oh we won, that's nice."

what would you advise is an acceptable "equity tolerance" when playing purely for recreation? For example being willing to accept all decisions that result in a equity greater then 90%, prioritising fun in said zone. Would lead to having more fun, whilst still winning most runs and the occasional loss would likely be a "thats what we get for memeing" moment which doesn't hurt as much as a hard thought loss. I guess i've inadvertently decided my answer here. Interested on what you as a content creator might say, perhaps as low as 50-60%

@Jorbs

3 жыл бұрын

i generally find the game most enjoyable when i win ~50% of the time. i think the reason for that isn't the winrate itself, but rather that the game is most fun when i don't know for sure if i'm going to win or lose yet - i'm required to think hard, and my decisions can have meaningful consequences still. that setting is most true when i have ~50% chance to win.

i predict that unless i die in the next 5 minutes, my equity is at 100%. and i mean die in real life, like if i had a heart attack or something terrible like that.

You might have the wrong link for your twitch in the description

When your name is the first thing he says jorbsTehe

The Slime Father!

1:54:10 just a note of where i left off

@shaunhayes3072

4 жыл бұрын

I came to look at comments once since starting and saw this and scrolled up and saw the exact time in the video and now I am spooked what the fuck There must be something which caused us to both be distracted/leave it off and that exact time, but cannot put my finger on it

I appreciate your video and watched the whole thing. I learned a lot! But if I may offer some criticism here... You talk about unrelated stuff a lot. The video is 3 hours long and could be cut significantly, to be honest. My biggest complaint, however: You seem to expect all the viewers to know every single relic in the game just by looking at them. You skip over some and don't hover over them so that I can see what they are, forcing me to either simply stay ignorant about what you just skipped or rewinding the video and pause it when you hold over it for .5 seconds.

@HolyNarz

5 жыл бұрын

PaonSol "You seem to expect all the viewers to know every single relic in the game just by looking at them." That'S exactly what bothers me in ecry single video.

@jmandpalmer

4 жыл бұрын

Additionally, at ascencion 15, you SHOULD know all the relics

@Chaseroonie1

4 жыл бұрын

@@jmandpalmer This is a guide for "building blocks and fundamentals" why are you expecting everybody here to be at ascension 15?

@MrToastedEgg

4 жыл бұрын

@@antoniolum1506 I agree. I bought the game just a day ago and was pretty much entertained by having to do a bit of research myself while listening to this. I also think that the effort someone puts into learning this things is directly proportional to how well you learn and internalize this things. You can't expect someone to do everything for you... well, you can, but in my experience, you will often be left behind that way.

@jayocaine2946

4 жыл бұрын

>complains about video length >also wants him to explain every single relic that you could literally just look up yourself

In the first shop at 36:00 I would have bought Apotheosis. For me this is a "god teir" card. Would that have been an acceptable alternative? I'm struggling at A3 right now and am trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. BTW I make it to the Act 3 boss 90% of the time and then get slaughtered. Starting to get very discouraged as my runs take me 3-4hrs.

@Jorbs

4 жыл бұрын

apotheosis is quite slow and a lot of the time you only really need a couple of key cards to be upgraded anyway. it can be good in the right situation though.

@UltimateRichard

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jorbs thanks for the quick reply. There's so much I don't get. Maybe I just need to play on A0 and enjoy myself rather than get frustrated by dieing at the Act 3 bosses repeatedly. Cheers.

1:20:50 Lord_Bob_317 the famous.

@elifriedman317

3 жыл бұрын

lmfao thats me im also at 0:00:00

he said the first 3 fights are easy, does he mean not including elite? cause he could have gone right path on act 1 and fought an elite for 3rd fight. I was a bit confused to what he meant there. Is the goal to pick the path that goes as far as you can for the first 3 normal fights?

@raishrby

3 жыл бұрын

The 1st 3 hallway (non-elite) fights you do in the first act are drawn from a random pool of easier fights. After that, they're drawn from a pool of harder fights. In acts 2 and 3, you get 2 easy hallway fights before it pulls from the hard ones

@B3_6

3 жыл бұрын

@@raishrby thank yiu

Die Die Die is kind of underwhelming for a rare card, I think they should buff the damage on it.

@janehrahan5116

4 жыл бұрын

It's really not. 17 to all is more than fair for 1 energy. If you want a sad rare it's bludgeon. 3 energy for only 42 dmg at +1. That's one that could be buffed a bit (maybe 35/45

@Camcolito

4 жыл бұрын

@@janehrahan5116 It's not 17 unless you upgrade it, it's 13, and you probably won't be upgrading it on high ascension. That's 2 more damage than the uncommon, Backstab, which is innate (so you have it when you need front-loaded damage, at the start of the fight), costs 0 instead of 1 energy, and also exhausts. Now of course backstab is single-target, but think about some hard fights which are multi-target - Sentries, Gremlin leader, Reptomancer, birds (though not that hard), Slimeboss). 13 damage to all doesn't really do much because they either resummon or have enough hp that they can't be burst down. What you need is either some way to bypass AOE (corpse explosion, massive burst / defense) or AOE that doesn't exhaust. I'd often rather have an upgraded dagger spray in my deck than an upgraded die die die, and an upgraded backstab over either. It's not a terrible card, just not that good, and it's a rare. Not an expert on Ironclad but I've heard some people like Bludgeon in the right deck. Silent has her share of crap rares - Storm of steel, rubbish / Tools of the trade, rubbish / Doppleganger, rubbish (Die Die Die are better than these)

Boot MVP

I wish this was about half as long

@KrivitskyM

5 жыл бұрын

A typical Slay the Spire run lasts about 2 hours. Add the detailed explanatition and you get an extra hour. I'll take it.

:( I think the birds are a really annoying threat and the gremlin nob is usually the easiest of the 3 act one bosses, is that outdated or is that just due to playstyle?

I think credence is a more accurate term than equity.

Very new to the game and loving it, though I feel I shouldn't watch videos like this one as to not burn that love for the game lol.

at 23:30 he is explaining how he doesn't worry about calculating lethal damage on his current turn, yet he worries about calculating lethal damage on his following turn... what? super counterproductive.

@danielsherwood3880

4 жыл бұрын

@Maester Arnorer kind of like how bad my gi oh players look at the top card of their deck after losing a game to see if it would've saved them. Doesnt matter, you lost aha

@friendlyplayer92

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he is talking about priorities.

I don't understand your point about missing that lethal in the very first fight of the run. Yeah you can look at that turn and think I'm not taking damage I can just not armor up but aren't always going to play the two Strikes because there's nothing else to do?

@giacomozampaolo6780

5 жыл бұрын

Plamen Bogdanov just guessing here, I’m no expert and I can’t get in the mind of Jorbs: he is not talking about the best play, he is talking about priorities, you first instinct should not be if you can deal lethal, but if you can block all damage, and if you do, can you still block or deal lethal damage next turn? Then you can ask yourself if you can already do lethal damage. The second approach is better in general during the game where there are multiple enemies and takes more into consideration.

Weakness + 2 dropkick = combo

stats oh god

Please Ironclad :D

Man, I have such a *different* style of playing this game. Yours look overall better and more fun though, I will admit that.

Some good information, but too many random tangents and unrelated stories.

New player here, this is wonderful content that completely changes the way I look at this game. Side note, there are cardiovascular disease 10 years risk calculators out there like QRISK3 if you are interested. You can then average it over number of stream hours for equity of mid stream heart attack :)

Needs timestaps :x

@Safaridor

3 жыл бұрын

Released before timestamps

lewis likes you oWo

its ridiculous that i had to put this to 1.5x speed so you reach normal speech speed :D Great content dude, but get a coffee :D :D

@blacktimhoward4322

4 жыл бұрын

So either he changes everything about how he communicates with the world, OR you change a setting that takes two seconds. Hmmm

@danielo.-t.121

4 жыл бұрын

First I wanted to joke around how you can't understand a joke, but as that would be a catch 22 situation... I'm sorry that you feel hurt and offended, but your shining knight armour will protect you from any harm :)

@blacktimhoward4322

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielo.-t.121 😂😂 I do stand up comedy 20 hours a week. Prepare yourself, this is gonna hurt: *your joke was not funny* If you need some tips (you desperately do) paypal me

@friendlyplayer92

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielo.-t.121 have you tried thinking high level concepts and explaining them clearly to an audience AND playing correctly at the same time? yeah thought so.

Your comment here about "compacting all your mistakes into deck choice" seems to be in direct odds with your advice that archetypes are not a good paradigm for Slay The Spire. It seems to be saying the opposite.

@friendlyplayer92

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you are saying. But StS is not a game where you can pre-decide things, because you do not know your card & relic pool for the run and the layout. So thinking about going for certain deck architypes in advance is a recipe for losing. A single decision that leads to losing. I think that was what Jorbs tried to say.

!equity adventskynet : 16720

I appreciate at your long work - it might be super exhausting to playing whole game stages in 3 hours about -. With poor skills and lack of clumsy Knowledge, I have suffered from losing at 2nd Act in Slay the Spire. Over 200 games with 80% losing rate, I think that the game has something to demanding a reliable principle which gamer should comply with it. The equity seems the principle which I'm looking for, but you didn't tell that 'equity' how can be formulated. Could you give me a definition of it and specific math on the equity?

@Jorbs

5 жыл бұрын

It's just a number I'm using to represent what % of the time I think I win. It's coming from my head.

@deadliest9779

5 жыл бұрын

Disappointing :( , I thought that I found a important rule which I should follow from your channel. whether the 'equity' is a mere instant-thinking or not, your performances have been really amazing. I want to be good at this game as you do so. Thanks a lot for your comment and concern. I will keep following your teaching, and learning to be better player.

@friendlyplayer92

3 жыл бұрын

@@deadliest9779 equity is a frame of thinking. It is important. "Does this decision help me to have better chances of winning the game?" is what you should be asking yourself.

This game is hard! Got my first "win" after 75 hours lol I love it!

watching this at 1.75 speed and its still too slow

Why are you calling it "equity" when you could just as easily call it "chance to win" and no one would question what it means? I can't find a definition of equity that makes sense for how you're using it. 1. the quality of being fair and impartial. - Nope. 2. the value of the shares issued by a company. - Nope. 3. the value of a mortgaged property after deduction of charges against it. - Nope. 4. (in the US, UK, and several other countries) a trade union to which most professional actors belong. - Nope.

Why is this counted as a win? he doesn't face the final boss at all. What am I missing?

@elim9054

2 жыл бұрын

This is a very old run from before act 4 was added

At one pointin act 1u said ur biggest concern was not getting enough scaling dmg in time for the act 2 boss and that all decisions should be based around that. Then u get deadly poison offered but still take Finisher instead. And then later u get it offered again and dont take it either and just call it super bad. I can just not see how all of this is logical. U seem to contradict urself with exactly what u said like 2 floors before...

@orandulum

5 жыл бұрын

Deadly Poison isn't scaling damage. It deals a flat 15 damage over 5 turns, unless combined with another poison card. Scaling damage is something like Noxious Fumes or Thousand Cuts that, once played, will deal damage continuously for the rest of the fight.

Equity sub emote please.

Equity is dumb

Just say, critical thinking. It's ok. Schools try to teach children "what" to think, they should teach "how" to think critically. Thinking for themselves.

this dude pulled out the spreadsheet and INSTANTLY lost me keep making content though boss

lol this guys mtg:a opinion didnt age well

Very long, maybe consider splitting videos like these into 2-3 parts?

@axelpetersson5787

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Z why? It would take just as long to watch the entire thing...