I love how the architect and the graphic designer like to dance around with comparisons to ships and gothic architechture without calling it a depressing damp brutalist shit-hole which is a fairer description. I was brought up in one of these buildings as a kid and it was fucking grim. The whole building soaked up rain like a sponge.

@SkillBuilder

3 жыл бұрын

Too right. Same old same old they wax lyrical but they would never live in one of these flats.

@starrchild254

3 жыл бұрын

Do you remember martin the concierge? He was my dad. He's dead now though and the other concierge kenny now works as concierge in the caledonia road flats. There's no sense of community the way there was back then. We lived 21 up in the c block and the guy who owned the local pub would send care packages up to my mum when the lift broke down and she was too heavily pregnant too climb up and down stairs

@anandmorris

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they really do not understand how certain communities live. The worst thing about that knighted bellend was the fact he didn't even understand how the weather impacted the living conditions. I hate people like, it makes us designers look like overeducated arrogant cockwombles.

@jamesvickers5998

Жыл бұрын

Aye, they’re always well supported by people who don’t have to live in them

@henrygingold6549

Жыл бұрын

Spence and his like should have been compelled to live in one of these for a year. Sheer arrogance from someone who had never been to Glasgow before.

“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams.

Helen Tinney, mentioned at the end, was struck in the chest by a piece of concrete during the demolition. She had been standing in the official safety zone during the demolition but it obviously hadn't been far enough away. She died later that day in hospital and her daughter sued the demolition company. Really sad thing to happen.

@delores6458

3 жыл бұрын

Tragic 🥺

@jimmyduncan7650

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine getting chibbed on the last day. Very sad.

@peterpyke1213

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyduncan7650 like being the last man killed at the end of ww11

@pcno2832

3 жыл бұрын

At 28:20 , I was thinking it looked a bit out of control, and wondering if the people around were in danger. I guess that question has already been answered. Poor woman.

@starrchild254

3 жыл бұрын

@@pcno2832 I was three and I was the child picked to press the button to blow the queen Elizabeth flats. I've always proud of that. Now I feel guilty

Having been born in Glasgow in 1993, its really hard for me to watch these glasgow documentaries, its kind of emotional and difficult to process.

@MarcSmith-ph5sh

5 күн бұрын

Why?

I was fortunate enough to grow up in a house 20 miles away from Glasgow..My mother always said the site of these flats put the fear of death into her any time we passed by on the road.

My parents moved us down south in 72/73 because they didn't want us growing up in depression times in Glasgow. It's still my birthplace and i visit family whenever i can get up the road. The ending reminded me of The Still Game episode. Thanks for the upload.

I went there in 1980 when I was 15. One of the most welcoming and friendly places I have ever been to.

@davidjb65

2 жыл бұрын

I went to a place called “Doigs Coaches” with my father on a job. They checked the car over while we were working for our return journey to the Black Country. Great bunch of people there too.

From street slums to high rise slums.

Built in the 1960s and blown up in the 1990s. A life of just 30 years. What a waste.

@budmercer8042

7 жыл бұрын

Thomas McGee no one actually cares

@brianmchugh8419

7 жыл бұрын

Thomas McGee The entire Gorbals do look a lot better now though... www.google.co.uk/search?q=the+new+gorbals&prmd=inmv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAtsmu6r_RAhUCKpoKHczSBFUQ_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=559

@markgardner1020

4 жыл бұрын

Experiments often fail, Especially when they are devised by intellectual snobs who think they know what's best for the underclass

@OffGridInvestor

4 жыл бұрын

Almost NONE OF these things are ever engineered to outdo 40 years. Maybe 50 years here in drier places like Australia but with Scottish weather it wouldn't make 50 years. The only exception to this is certain drain systems and bridges. But don't except much of that to make 50 years either. It's not made of STONE but concrete. And concrete deterioration is FAR far quicker than stone.

@MichaelSmith-tp1pj

4 жыл бұрын

True

Filing cabinets for people.

@drewmcshoe6655

5 жыл бұрын

Filling cabinets are more difficult to knock down.

@howdan1985

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha crying with laughter at your comment. One of the funniest I've ever seen on KZread my friend! LOLLL

@richrichie378

3 жыл бұрын

😂👍

@williamwoods8022

2 жыл бұрын

Most people are dumb zombie sheep anyway too dumb to realise they are being herded to their doom as totally exposed here kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2yl2JuzpM69j7g.html

My parents come from Glasgow they got out emigrating to Canada in the sixties there were many of them in this part of Canada my dad call Canada the land of milk and honey they made a success of their lives and they stuck together helping each other with jobs anyone out of work or just arrived in Canada were taken in and gotten on their feet but they were so tough and I never understood why until my mom told me about the lives they led and where they came from I’m Canadian I’ve never been to Scotland but they remained proud of their heritage their time is ending now but their legacy will live on

@remove574

4 жыл бұрын

buggeroff you obviously haven’t any manners

@KarmasAbutch

4 жыл бұрын

Yvon C But look at the punctuation on that ignorance though... near perfect.

@majestyk3337

4 жыл бұрын

@buggeroff So where, pray tell, is the good life?

@SpookyElectric319

4 жыл бұрын

That comment is a lung buster. Glasgow looks nothing like this now. I was born and bred in Glasgow, nothing to be ashamed off. You make it sound subservient and awful. Canada was never the ‘land of milk and honey’. That was romanticised for emigration purposes.

@loveulez

4 жыл бұрын

not in punctuation it won't

I moved 2 miles south of here not long before this. The old victorian era tenements when not overcrowded and when heated and insulated are excellent housing, big, room, high ceilings, thick walls, old wood and in some many old features. The problem was never the housing that became slums proper to these tower blocks, it was the way that housing was misused, essentially for profit.

Helen Tinney was a friend of my family , she died during the explosion , RIP

That Janice Kilpatrick one defo cried when the Art School went on fire.

I remember watching the demolition back in 1993. And guess what? They did eventually build hideous yuppy flats on the site.

@davidtannahill2578

6 жыл бұрын

I was there with my mum and dad i was 7 at the time. my dad helped build them and always mind the material flying over our heads and chunks of concrete bouncing over the fence blinded with the dust. crowd choking panicking with confusion the only thing thicker than fear in the air was the tons of concrete and probs asbestos that weren't considered at the time. can still see a couple of people that were front row getting strecherd out to the the service.

@kammy205

4 жыл бұрын

David Tannahill I remember that too. I’m sure someone died that day an old lady

@kammy205

4 жыл бұрын

johnmcluskey did you used to go to St johns primary?

@kammy205

4 жыл бұрын

Janey Jester I used to go to school with her grandson Darren Tinney

@Mitch-Hendren

3 жыл бұрын

@@kammy205 yes Helen Tinney. Hit by flying concrete, The programme is dedicated to her memory, since then the exclusion zone around controlled explosion demolition has been doubled

"It's a healthy looking boy you've got there," "Yes, we've eaten the wee lassy."

My grandfather was born in gorbals in 1890s paid his way through university and became a GP and moved away

@rrrrmcg408

3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating

@ScratchyBaws

9 ай бұрын

Must have been a Psychic too

I remember running round the dark corridors .. Had a good mate who lived there... Back stairs smelling of vinegar , piss & shit!! And to top it off , on the day they were demolished a local women was killed by flying debris .... Mrs Tinney... God rest her soul 🙏🏻💚💔

@SpookyElectric319

4 жыл бұрын

That’s it! I had a friend who lived in one, they just became ruin. I remember the lady killed by flying debris.

@davie8906

4 жыл бұрын

I was fairly near where she was killed,then i moved along a bit

@CRAIGANJOS

3 жыл бұрын

I knew a Chick Tinney fae the Gorbals hope there was no relation

@Jupiterjokerjoe

3 жыл бұрын

www.heraldscotland.com/news/12179114.family-sues-over-gorbals-blast-mother-61-died-after-being-struck-by-flying-debris-as-she-watched-demolition-of-22-storey-flats/

@rossco5409

3 жыл бұрын

It was the tenants that ruined them. It still happens today, areas looking like shitholes due to the people that live there I.e Govanhill

I was born in queen Elizabeth flats and I still have pictures of them being blown up. My dad was actually one of the concierges

Seems hard to believe but i used to go from Cornwall to holiday in the Gorbals as a child as we had family there. I loved it and still remember the place and the people to this day.

I was only four months old when these flats were demolished so I don't remember anything except always hearing about the woman who was killed and, checking that it wasn't a myth, I went online and did some background research. What they haven't mentioned in this documentary is that twice these flats had to be evacuated due to flooding which eventually caused dampness. The company that carried out the demolition eventually went bust and the death of Helen Tinney, who was killed when debris from the flats hit her in the chest, may have contributed to that.

@andrewmckenna00

4 жыл бұрын

@Jamie Im from Dalmarnock (we used to have powerstation) loads of jobs available then they slowly went and it turned into a shit-pit So it got flattened for that 2 week sports day (or Commonwealth games) and now its refered to as the Commonwealth village, nobody wants to use the term, Dalmarnock, because of the negative connotations and its exactly the same with the Gorbals, oh sorry, "Oatlands" Some yuppie in there new flat know that if it is advertised as Oatlands, and not Gorbals, its and extra £10k onto value of flat

@m-o-l

4 жыл бұрын

My first boyfriend, Jamie Doyle, lived in the middle B block .. three floors up .. his family moved from Oatlands but his Da was originally from Ireland. He had a wee sister called Elizabeth.. I wonder what became of them all ☘💚

@georginaohara42

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmckenna00 it’s exactly the same here in the Eastend. Haghill (where I was born) is refereed to in listings as ‘Dennistoun’. It’s dressed up with a fur coat & no knickers because those of us from the area know it to be Haghill & a right shit hole of a place. They do this to justify exorbitant rents.

@jackthenerd4083

Жыл бұрын

I'm also from haghill, born and raised..I moved away years ago but it really annoys me to see haghill referred to as Dennistoun. Not to mention what landlords are charging to rent flats out there. It's still the same gray, heartless area it was in 93 🙄.

The wee guy at 12:15 must have been popular with the neighbours. The sound-proofing was abysmal, Imagine having to listen to that above or below you, you would want to throw him over the balcony.

They never thought of peoples funerals,my Grandfather's coffin had to stand head to toe in lift,so could get him to the hearse,very undignified!!

@paulmcdonough1093

4 жыл бұрын

that is so wrong

@ghetto-5106

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Wright so

@m-o-l

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Wright, Sorry to hear about the way your Grandad made his last journey out of Queen Elizabeth Square. Despicable ! I bet Basil Spence wasn't shoved in a lift .

@eckeynecker

4 жыл бұрын

The lifts in my nans old high rise had a compartment in them to put coffins in ,

@jemimallah2591

3 жыл бұрын

@Donald Mackay id say launch the coffin through the front window of the guy who designed the flats, but i looked it up and hes been deed since 1976. fuckin bastart never even suffered seeing the full consequences of his pish design

@24:47 R.I.P George Kirk, aka Cookie aka diamond eyes, so many lassies in primary school had their first crush on Cookie. Queenie flats and the dampies. The place where real community spirit thrived.R.I.P Mrs Tinney. Gone but never forgotten.

@shirleypena4133

4 жыл бұрын

@michelle lyon I noticed him straight away, what a looker!😍

Regardless of all the social and economic problems this - and many other similar housing schemes - area had, the strong sense of community is prevalent. Sadly, when places like this are razed to the ground the residents are dispersed elsewhere in the city and the sense of community becomes lost. I live in a Glasgow perhiperal housing scheme - Drumchapel - and, in spite of its problems and large demolition programmes, the sense of community still exists. In spite of its stigma, I love living there.

@daniellereid7576

5 жыл бұрын

Same in the U.S our projects displace people and are people homes people do stick together use to and everybody knows everybody back then in the projects in States

@wullymc1

5 жыл бұрын

There is still a strong sense of community in the Gorbals. I still live here and people love it.

@starrchild254

3 жыл бұрын

My dad was the local welfare rights officer, my mum ran the food co-op and my stepdad was the concierge in the c block

I had relatives that lived in those flats and they loved them back in the 70s

@LosBerkos

4 жыл бұрын

Well, according to the other comments your relatives are totally wrong.

Having a neighbour practicing the bag pipes in a high rise must have been really homely

@scotishjohn

Жыл бұрын

Homely hahaha ffs

@BlowinFree

10 ай бұрын

He would have been chucked off the balcony

@union310

8 ай бұрын

Crack pipe you mean

no matter how good High Rise flats look when built they always end up future slums

@czarpeppers6250

4 жыл бұрын

I think it would be worthwhile to wonder why they end up as slums rather than assuming that is always the case.

@LosBerkos

4 жыл бұрын

Solid thesis...

@kerriebarnett8997

4 жыл бұрын

They were made fast and cheaply cause it was inevitable that they wouldn't be standing long ,it was a social experiment, but they improve on the errors each time, until these people could eventually be living more precociously than the queen herself, lol

@muskrat477

4 жыл бұрын

Ballymun flats in Dublin City was the same, when they were built you had to go through an interview process to get one, it wasn't long before ghettoization and social problems kicked in, it was a truly scary and intimidating place to even drive through, rows upon rows of dull graffiti covered concrete, burnt out cars everywhere, often wondered how people could live like that

@muskrat477

4 жыл бұрын

@@czarpeppers6250 I'm of the opinion high-rise living doesn't tend to work too well in the UK and Ireland, it does in places like sweden

Fascinating valuable and at times very moving film thanks for making it available

Frankie Boyle mentioned in his book that while growing up in the Gorbals there was wind tunnels between buildings where you would be lifted off your feet.

@4Youalone3

Жыл бұрын

Thats hilarious! I was raised in Ravenswood projects in Queens, NYC. It was a great place to grow up. I can imagine us being lifted up and blown or flying about our buildings. Sorry for your loss. Ravenswood has been improved.

@Ladynipchick2

9 ай бұрын

I can believe it. I live in an area of Leeds with many high rise flats/ buildings and I was once dragged along by some sort of crazy wind that suddenly sprang up between them. I must have looked daft tottering in tiny steps just to stay upright, and my hand grazed and bleeding from touching the wall in an attempt to stay upright. Umbrellas are regularly ripped away as you go along! But there is a kind of community spirit that springs up, despite some rough memories of violence, drug abuse and even suicide jumpers. They've just refurbished our 3 close together blocks, and who knows how long they'll be in use. For now, they seem to have dealt with the mould problem, but we'll see...

Now just glass blocks instead of concrete ones How we’ve evolved 😂

@LosBerkos

4 жыл бұрын

It's clearly much more profitable nowadays, and after the next round of demolitions surely will be even more so

@floydroyds4069

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are correct but they're certainly a lot better to look at, which surely has to have a positive impact on the mindset of those who live within

@ellisedwards2887

2 жыл бұрын

@@floydroyds4069 better to look at how? Because your home looks like a monotonous, soulless office block? Concrete/stone/brick blocks are much nicer to look at and more homely than the glass and steel ones we see today, which just look like places of work for white collar types.

@floydroyds4069

2 жыл бұрын

@@ellisedwards2887 funny you should say that, I literally live in a council block in London, maybe you shouldn't assume next time.

Loved staying there. Best time of my life. Probably not as good as I remember but still, I loved it looking back.

Buildings like this work when people who really want to live that way pay a premium for a nice flat with a view. But when they are only intended to jam a lot of poor people into the smallest possible footprint, they almost always seem to end up like this. It only takes a few bad tenants and the death spiral begins. Having a derelict next door in a row house would be bad enough, but sharing a hallway or an elevator with one, or more, would be reason enough to move.

@GUITARTIME2024

10 ай бұрын

Very well said. It doesn't work well for poorer classes.

It was good for C.B radio 10/4 top flat

Brilliant upload. Thanks for this! Shame they are now gone as they were some of the more interesting ones for sure!

Someday everyone will appreciate buildings like this as much as old tenements and terraces. Real depressing architecture is the soleless, low-quality suburbs of the last 30 years. Tiny boxes built for the developer's profit crammed onto greenfield sites. No regard for architectural quality or interest, for efficiency or the environment. These towers represent an idea which in many ways worked. There was so much potential to clean them up and give them a rebirth for the new millennium. Some landscaping and greenery around the base and a refit indoors for example. The same structure could have easily been incorporated into a new, high-quality reincarnation of the area. Architecture with interest is what is important, in many ways these blocks mean the same to Glasgow as the tenement. They are embedded in our culture and shared history. These were the very best examples with the most architectural merit, they should have been listed and redeveloped. Look at what we have in their place; pathetic lowrise flats that could be anywhere and are almost fashion statements of the decade they were built. Compare that to the world renowned modernist icon they replaced.

@elamcb4306

3 жыл бұрын

..well said..

@meathead365

10 ай бұрын

Good comment mate, thanks

4:00 she managed to say great step forward and final solution in one sentence 😬

@noddyholder79

Жыл бұрын

Jawohl comrade Mao😆

As a young kid I lived in high rise flats but we moved cos my mum took ill and couldn’t cope with the stairs but I loved the flats also their still their today mostly young single parents refugees and homeless in their first home and as we wee high up the view was amazing

great doc,thank you !!!

The people getting all arty farty over the design don't live in those disgusting monstrosities. They are so institutional.

I can remember watching that demolition when I was 13 from the hill beside the Castle Cash & Carry.

The introduction of heroin ruined these city communities of the U.K.

@drexlspivey5828

6 жыл бұрын

mattep1ao Nope, peoples decision to take it did

@jossandman

4 жыл бұрын

No the criminalization did.

@ghetto-5106

4 жыл бұрын

Haha 😂

@andrewmckenna00

4 жыл бұрын

Heroin is not just the problem, Its the loss of jobs like shipbuilding and manufacturing, high movement of people (you used to have same neighbours for decades, but that slowly changed), which meant there was no community, Bring in boredom, and then a wee bit of powder to cure that boredom and its a recipe for disaster, devil and idle hands I used to live in the high rise in Dalmarnock, and we used to have a social club (my grampa ran it) and had parties, boys brigade, scouts etc, there was an actual community, when the tories took away all the grants, social funds etc, they slowly diminished and Dalmarnock became a total cess pit

@andrewmckenna00

4 жыл бұрын

Sod it then, fascism or communism it is then

Thanks for posting

Betty Edgar, I went to school with her daughter Lizzie. Great woman is Betty. Still see her on the bus coming from Rutherglen. Did a lot of community work there. She used to run the summer play-scheme there which I went to.

@starrchild254

3 жыл бұрын

My mum ran the local food co-op and my dad was the welfare rights officer

I find concrete high-rises rather fascinating. Shame about the design flaws and serious neglect towards the end, making them uneconomic to keep. I do wish that one block had been saved and renovated. Could have been quite a Glasgow icon today?

@tjm3900

Жыл бұрын

Did you live on one ?

@kinghock

10 ай бұрын

@@tjm3900 Yawn.

I used to go visit my granny in old rutherglen road and then walk over to visit my auntie and uncle Rose and Bobby Rennie my cousins Robert and Amanda wish I could go back to them days 🙏🏼❤️

Janice Kilpatrick really does believe that a turd, can in fact, be polished.

Notice people say how great it started off? Well, I think the lack of maintenence defintley played a part in the toiwer block's downfall but couple that with the fact that the early tennants were mostly families led to a gradual increase in anti social behaviour as these families grew up.

19:00.... That music and editing. Talk about spooky.

hi rise flats are depressing

@swizzleproxi4810

4 жыл бұрын

Agree strongly, people that live in high risers should be offered an allotment as part of the deal as its nice to have your own private green place to go to on a sunny day.

@adamd6648

3 жыл бұрын

They’re actually no. Try living in one and then come back to me.

Amazing how many people ended in corby. Love these people x

I'm a Scottish immigrant from Hawick. I was brought up in a tenement,and I would have loved to have lived high up. These flats being demolished in Glasgow would be classed as luxury flats in Auckland and be sold at $850,000. I don't think children below 12 should be there, due to the design but that could have been worked on. Going through Glasgow many years ago, I looked up and I thought they were magnificent. One councillor said it would cost 150M Pounds to fix up, after years of neglect. To my mind it was sweetie money. These flats with proper maintenance would have lasted 200 years. The document was short on why they were demolished,who's idea was it? Most of the problems were no different from problems elsewhere. Capitalist Anarchy and wicked unreasoning nihilism and vandalism, why should I care living down under? It's because the same unthinking nihilists are busy here putting people out of public housing. Selling the same house or land to overseas millionaires. People of Scotland voted to rid themselves of a corrupt and perfidious Labour Party. Quite correctly out of shear frustration voting for the Bourgeois Nationalists. Scotland deserves a proper Marxist Labour Party. Up the Scottish working class!

@waveandwire

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Fay - They were failing the community. Most of the families felt they were like prisons and felt increasingly isolated. And its the same with the vast majority of these types of properties throughout Europe. They're all coming down for the same reasons. I think in places like Auckland, Sydney, and Miami the were not erected en-mass to house an over populated, poverty stricken city. The right decision was made i feel and Glasgow is the better for it.

@MichaelFay63

8 жыл бұрын

Folk who were living in the flats gave mixed opinions,some didn't like them ,some did,some loved them. I hate waste and as one woman commented, " Pulling good housing down when there's so many homeless what a waste". Flats like the Glasgow multi's,would have been heaven for say a homeless person or a Syrian refugee. I saw luxury flats in a film on Beirut and it was something to envy. I ask you are they unsuitable for the working class? I appears to me that were not being looked after maintained or made secure for the tennants. Where did the tennants go? The video doesn''t say. I would suggest that buildings don't cause crime but a class war society do's. I am fond of Glasgow folk,here in Auckland I found them the least pretentious of people,which is more than I can say for the Hawick people I have come across. Folk throughout the globe are being processed into a housing obsession. Capitalism no longer has any progressive use and is turning in on itself and becoming a Rentier system. I hope the Nationalists have a nuclear free Scotland as we have here in NZ. But i doubt it. Cheerio for now.

@lumorena2849

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Fay Those flats were a monstrosity, both aesthetically and in what they represented. They represented all that was wrong with Glasgow: poverty, crime and poor council planning. Those flats created a poor excuse for a community, a quickly bundled together block of flats which perfectly show the failed brutalist post war urban ideas of the 60s and 70s which still scar Scotland to this day.

@MichaelFay63

8 жыл бұрын

I passed the flats some years ago,and I thought they looked great on the skyline. I did not have the experience of living in them. But the tenants themselves spoke well of them some didn't. Indeed some spoke of an excellent community,and were in awe of their beautifull views. Some commented that the land situation would be used for yuppie development. When the flats or any housing are given only basic repairs,they invariably decline. If they were well maintained with all amenities which middle class people would expect,then I suspect that the flats were deliberately run down to the prospect of the destructive vandalism by unscrupulous and corrupt politicians. In fact you could say the same corrupt practices were carried out in Scotland as a whole and resulted in the total deracination of the Labour and Tory Parties by the Nats who no doubt will carry out similar practices once they settle in to similar sinecures. The flats were dynamited by anti working class Labour and eventually,similar policies by the Nats. Will they get rid of Nuclear bases ?They mustn't be dynamited! We live in interesting times!

@lumorena2849

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Fay I repespect your skepticism of British politicians, however in this case it was the politicians that actually caused the problem. Those flats should have never been built. As usual the politicians were looking for a "quick fix" for the Glasgow housing crisis, and coupled with the architects who, in looking to stroke their egos, built massive towers. All in all, this housing development was an unmitigated failure, not because of failing in its upkeep, but rather in its very construction. I was very happy in their demolition, and i'm happy when I look at the latest council housing developments. The communities nowadays are safer and the houses cleaner.

25:13 is exactly what happened here and where I stay in Sighthill ..spooky that lady called it

Burd at the beginning is a belter

@2wheeledscotsman127

7 жыл бұрын

pure whopper mate. that accent dunno wtf that was...

@notmyname1289

7 жыл бұрын

Gordon Duffy She'll be fae the west end mate snobby burd, but she is nice on the eye.

@jossandman

4 жыл бұрын

Kate Aidie, I think She still reads the news.

@jossandman

4 жыл бұрын

@Donald Mackay Sorry Mate, meant to say Kay Adams lol

@jemimallah2591

3 жыл бұрын

as long as she keeps her mooth shut mebbe

must have been quite a few thick brown envelopes changing hands !

@davidgrahamscott

4 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail right on the head there.

@jemimallah2591

3 жыл бұрын

not really. more a case of building methods advancing so rapidly that the people providing the money for public housing projects (i.e. the councils/the corporation) had absolutely no idea what they were funding and so the contractors were free to completely screw them by cutting corners everywhere. the authorities are not free from blame of course, but if you want to blame someone blame the contractors. watch adam curtis' documentary "the great british housing crisis" for a better understanding of how things went down

@redpilledpict2747

3 жыл бұрын

@@jemimallah2591 Well i was young at the time and a relative worked for a famous architect and i thought this is all a case of the emperor's new clothes.Later I was well aware of the Poulson/Pottinger scandal.Of course the contractors cut corners but there certainly were brown envelopes involved as well.The real tragedy was also the number of good solid buildings that were demolished in the pursuit of money.I could tell a few good stories about that.Living in Edinburgh i know that a few good people managed to stop some real vandalism that the councillors had planned.It was going to be even more horrific in Glasgow if they had flattened the whole city centre as they had originally hoped to do.The Adam Curtis documentaries are very good but he can be selective in his views.I did watch them all again a few months ago.

@williamwoods8022

2 жыл бұрын

@@redpilledpict2747 Everything is a massive scam and these Mafias in this video here get away with it because the masses are too dumb to realise what is going on and don't want to know either kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2yl2JuzpM69j7g.html

Glasgow has a thing about upgrading buildings by giving new bathrooms, wiring, windows etc then after a few years...pulling it down, I've noticed.

To design a building that lasts 30 only years is disgusting.

@india239

4 жыл бұрын

Alan Fin Mactaggart in this case thirty years too long

3:18 in is my stepdad Taig McGinley who has passed away this week 😢 😭

@chickadee317

10 ай бұрын

Condolences 🙏

*I Love Watching These 60/70s Housing Documentaries Watching & Listening to Real People :-) My Best Friend Here in Manchester is from Glasgow's Old Gorbals, I Live in a 50s HighRise wv Verander 1.Mile from Manchester CityCentre They Spent Millions On v Exterior & Now Surrounded By New Builds Mostly Glass HighRise..

My father lived in tenements and that's why he loves where he lives now in a single detached home

I remember watching this outside my work, ( castle cash and carry) , it was amazing but not well organised, everyone was saying how the crowd was too close. When they began to fall, the dust and debris was everywhere, you couldn't see in front of you , we all ran indoors. It took such a long time to clear and When you came outside the cars were covered in the dust. Does anyone know where I can get this on dvd?

John Toye on the old footage at the start, was Scotland Today anchor through the 70's into the 80's. Looked like War of the Worlds backdrop, seen some ugly scenes around there 88-90 but went to school with a lot of guys there that were cool, nice honest decent people, screwed by authority - like Britain all over for people in similar circumstances these past 70 years..

All I can remember about those days is that nearly everyone was poor.

@annother3350

6 жыл бұрын

Yeh, poor with two mobiles and a 52" plasma drinking fucking lattes...

@wullymc1

5 жыл бұрын

@@annother3350 They work hard for their POVERTY! They can spend their hard earned cash on whatever the fuck they want!

@VivalaryMan

4 жыл бұрын

@@annother3350 its still poverty, just a new look.

@annother3350

4 жыл бұрын

@@VivalaryMan It's not like the things my grandparents used to tell me about though man. My granddad had to start work at 13 to earn literally a few pennies to keep his five sisters fed. It was a fucking tough existence. When I was a child we'd be lucky to go to a cafe twice a year. Now the schools and parents have failed the poor so badly most of them cant cook and rely on fast food every day!! Sure the gap is growing between rich and poor but by old standards being poor today in the UK isnt that tough as long as you're not homeless

@scottflannigan3062

3 жыл бұрын

@@annother3350 The diffence is the deregulation of the banks, when Thatcher came in and working class started borrowning for Material goods to the banks loan companies etc and the working class in to debt

Woman at 0.27 nailed it perfectly... Glasgow was unique and very different but all must come to an end.

3:51 The drawings are nice.

And to think these were intended to be the high price high quality showpiece of the Hutchesontown development, Basil Spense was allowed a higher budget compared to his former associate Robert Mathews Hutchesontown B (Which still stand today) and a longer build time (Royston A high-rises were completed before Basil finished his foundation's) so the short life and design faults were inexcusable, some vibrant colours mightve helped stomach the daunting styling

The late John Toye from 1965 , awesome.

Before there time. I think nowadays they would fit in better with how modern society is. People dont place so much importance on interaction with their neighbours. They should rebuild some mid rise developments about 10 storys high. But build well and include a mix of social backgrounds. So people who private rent, buy, social rent, and so on. Also maintance fees for the block that everone has to pay for so the block is keep in good order and the grounds are maintained. Modern day society would cope far better. It would also massively ease the housing crisis we currently face. 😊

I grew up in the gorbals, from early 70s until the late 90s. Pine place flats were a absolute disaster. Houses designed for the south of France… what genius thought that was a good idea? I used to play around those buildings and clearly remember them being hideously damp and riddled with asbestos. My mother was a home help in the queen Elizabeth towers for a time. She said it was a god awful abomination. The junkies used to throw just about anything from the balconies. From fridges to even dogs. Should have come down far sooner. I can honestly say it was a truly depressing and on occasion a violent place that thankfully I escaped. Thankfully It’s completely transformed today….

I'm from Royston and this is a sad story!

Don't know why Basil Spence "didn't appreciate Scottish weather"..... he went to school in Scotland... he was Scottish, although born in India.

I love Glasgow

@juliemcleod9869

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! I have friends that live there.

@colinhathaway9493

3 жыл бұрын

Great city Great people. I’m from Manchester and Glasgow is the only other place I’ve been that feels like home

@thomasbarchen

10 ай бұрын

I was there for the first time last year and really liked it, good place!

I was fortunate to grow up in a Bungalow 60 miles away from these High Rise flats. I shudder often, thinking about "whatif"......

And that Muriel Gray sound a like. Pish!!

@bigcrispyhied

4 жыл бұрын

I'm shocked she found her way from Byres rd to the gorbals. wonder if she'd have stayed there given the choice.

6:15 there are 3 high-rise buildings at the Oatlands end. I'm sure there was 4 and 2 of them got demolished mid 2000's if I remember correctly.

The lifts in these builds were more like a communal toiler that stopped on every floor ....had to watch where you parked as well , some times you had to dodge a TV or a mattress from the 20th floor.

Remember watching them fall from the high rises at PollokShaws!! Could hear the bang and see all the smoke from there

The architecture might be not for Glasgow but the people who live there are 2 nd to none, the community spirit in these places is fantastic, that's not to say every one who lived there were perfect,far from it, drug addicts, dealers,loan sharks, theifs ect, but 99 percent arelaw abiding folk who just wanted a better life for them and their loved ones, the people make the place

24:15 "and nobody would even give her the time of day" Wow, what an observation/insight by that man.

Taig McGinley's summing up was spot on 😅😅😅

@x66Hawk66x

7 ай бұрын

The story about the clock was a joke but it had allot of meaning.

Watching this was so depressing I had a hard time sleeping last night. I wish my parents were still alive to thank them that no matter where we lived, we always had a nice backyard with grass and trees to play in and just be kids. I can't imagine what kind of person I'd be today if I'd have grown up in one of these dreary urban ant colonies.

@christarant2538

10 ай бұрын

I can imagine you’d be less of a snooty little yuppy if you’d lived there. You might be less depressed and sleep very well

Are the David Naismith Flats still up in Springburn? Stayed there in 1989 for a week while visiting from Toronto Canada. Nice enough folk, but a bit of an air of menace about the place. I recall my cousin Paddy saying "even the dags go oot in pairs round here!" Otherwise loved Glasgow.

The old lady with the clock..... he thought nobody would give her the time of day but that REALLY sounds like DEMENTIA. Or some type of mental issues.

I was there i must have been about 5 or 6 at the time, I used to stay in sandyfield Road.

The steps looked Very steep indeed.

Flats better than the middens I suppose, but only a temporary fix, much better could have been done. I blame mostly the govt, lack of investments in our big companies for the people, drug, alcohol, and general wasters for ruining a potential fantastic area. The people of Glasgow deserve a lot more.

Houses inside actually quite good , used to drink in the Elizabethian pub below them , 😀

The new Glasgow Southern General Hospital ........which now has the title The Queen Elizabeth ......... is as equally impractical and possibly just as hideous

@agatek

8 жыл бұрын

+Gary Glasgow you mean the death star ;)

@wullymc1

5 жыл бұрын

@David Thomson It's a terrible hospital. Understaffed and the treatment is abysmal.

@garyrea2320

4 жыл бұрын

@@agatek death star, love it.

@williamwoods8022

2 жыл бұрын

And it is a Private Corporation just like the Council, Scottish and Westminster Governments etc etc ripping off the dumb people as totally exposed here kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2yl2JuzpM69j7g.html

Pretty apt the graphic designer using the phrase "the final solution" to describe the high rise blocks.

@captainhindsight8779

Жыл бұрын

Das ist gut

@4 minutes Janice Kirkpatrick and her trendy leftie, dummy Glaswegian accent, make me cringe . What makes her qualified to talk about living in the Lizzy flats ?

I see a lot of people complain about these sorts of tower blocks. But at the end of the day, a roof over your head is a roof over your head, and frankly I think we need more projects like this today. Some may say that these sorts of places always end up as slums, but I think people should really be asking and looking at _why_ they end up as slums. Although these days I'm sure you can make much more pleasant looking buildings while not losing site of the purpose of them. But to be honest, I kind of have a soft spot for brutalist architecture, I know it isn't everyone's cup of tea though. Plus, they were a hell of a lot better than what they replaced. I know people often say things like "isn't is awful that they torn down those old historic buildings"; now I love historic buildings, but when it came to what these blocks were replacing we're not talking about nice clean row housing. We're talking about nearly 100 year old neglected housing that was too small and in most cases were not worth restoring. Slums in the most accurate sense of the word.

@nutyyyy

4 жыл бұрын

It doesn't cost much more to make homes not look like monstrosities, controlling rents and keeping housing affordable is the answer not making awful tower blocks. You could fill that while area with 3 or 4 story buildings instead.

@czarpeppers6250

4 жыл бұрын

@@nutyyyy Indeed, I certainly don't think we should start throwing up a bunch of brutalist tower blocks, that just happened to be the trendy architecture of that period. Although to be honest I sort of have a soft spot for it, but I know I'm pretty much alone on that one haha.

I remember when these flats were built in Rutherglen Road, Gorbals..Everyone was anxious to get issued one, to move moved into thrm from their rat infested slums.They were a bloody eyesore, but at least people weren't sharing outside lavatories in closes, and there were proper bsthrooms, not bathing in tin baths in front of a blazing fire. These were luxury then.

@elamcb4306

3 жыл бұрын

...and flats in high risers in the USA are a HOT CAKES today...they cost hundreds thousand dollars a flat! They grow trees in buckets on the rooftops and balconies...but in Glasgow they were growing all natural... I love everything about Scotland...

Fascinating. It was pleasing to hear the ladies state how life was preferable to the slums.

@david-stewart

3 жыл бұрын

@Old Crow all this talk of community spirit in the slums. That may be so but for many people the slums evoke memories of nothing but hunger, coldness, and poverty.

I watched them being built....bang, bang , bang the piles were hammered in and the gorbals shook. As a wean I played in the long corridors and went up and doon in the lifts and as an adult I saw the social and human impact the concrete edifices brought with them....finally I was there On screen checking my watch at 27.43, just before the Big Bang! ......that’s me Steven ‘ribs’ Fraser. Oatlands bhoy!

They demolished the old gorbals from the late 1950s then demolished the 1960s housing in the late 1980s onwards this has taken 30 years to rebuild the gorbals and laurieston which is still ongoing there were some great people who came from the gorbals it was a crime what they done to the gorbals let it run down and demolish the whole area which was a great community hope Glasgow learns from it mistakes of the past

Anybody know what that was under that old chair moving around at the 19:44 time?

@MrJuddock

6 жыл бұрын

I just watched the thing under the chair,freaky as fuck that was.

@madgeglasgow

6 жыл бұрын

thats me freaked out now...

@wullymc1

4 жыл бұрын

Spooky music too. lol

@LosBerkos

4 жыл бұрын

Looked like plastic in the wind :)

@jemimallah2591

3 жыл бұрын

think its just the wind blowing something. you can see wallpaper or whatever the fuck that is moving about in the wind in the next shot

Anyone know the song at 12:50 ???

Who flashed the Bat signal! Holy shite, check out those eyebrows @25:35!

That wee lady was spot on. The plan was and still is to gentrify the city & price working class people out of their own area or unable to afford private rents. The council are complicit in this.

Memories...