(3/26/11) Oklahoma Gardening's Kim Toscano offers a solution for those who want lots of trees in a small space: high density planting.
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@Wesley226192 жыл бұрын
This was almost 10 years ago, would love to see those trees now.
@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! 👍🌲 It would be interesting to watch footage of a few years later showing these or other trees that were planted using this high density method.
@powellgammill42658 жыл бұрын
Really comprehensive coverage of high density planting method. Nice job!
@OklahomaGardening
8 жыл бұрын
+Powell Gammill Thank you for watching! We're glad to hear it covered the topic well.
@drpettinger59126 жыл бұрын
Great video Kim. This is something Dave Wilson Nursery has been doing for years. It's called backyard orchard culture. They have tons of videos about it. One major point she didn't drive home enough is never let any of the trees get bigger then the weakest variety. In addition it is very import to insure the initial caliper of each of the trees is similiar
@dagobaker
Жыл бұрын
yea its rare to find videos besides DWN doing the ed lavio style of knee high initial prune
@samnjoeysgrama1
Жыл бұрын
Really excellent! Great information much of it new to me, and presented without a lot of chit chat. This should be a training video for everyone putting videos on KZread.
@4vinos9 жыл бұрын
This is the most interesting video on high density planting I have seen. I planted plums and apricots approx. 24 inches apart and my neighbor said I didn't know what I was doing. I did this without knowing there was such a thing as high density planting. You are one of the few individuals I have heard that know what they are talking about and for that I thank you for making this video.
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
4vinos Thank you, we really appreciate that! Thank you for watching. And Happy Gardening!
@sharoncourt75
4 жыл бұрын
Have they fruit out ok i am thinking of doing this
@scottpi7298 жыл бұрын
Crazy idea: If you are planting 3 cherries together, and you want the crop low and easy to reach, why not chop one off at 18", one off at 30", and one off at 42". That way each one can grow out in more of a 360 degree area, and each have more of its own height. Oriented with the short one in the south, and the other 2 behind that one. Like theater seating. Thoughts? (LOVED the video, btw. I have 3 bare root cherries waiting to be planted.)
@lisakukla459
5 жыл бұрын
That's a clever idea! Have you implemented this? I'd love to know how it turned out.
@bosquebear13 ай бұрын
You might add a caution when cutting back to be aware of where the tree is grafted so you don't cut it below the graft. Also, if your tree is grafted with multiple varieties already, not cut it back as you will lose the already grafted varieties. Great video with good information.
@kukana2286 жыл бұрын
Great Great Great! Thank you for such a clear explanation. I'm saving your video so I can find it quickly to review. At my age, I need repetition. I've just started with fruit trees in my small urban garden. I have two in the ground and four more coming. Keeping my trees small for easy management is just what I want. Thinking through the tree planting position to allow the weaker tree to be south to get more sunlight is genius. It never occurred to me. Thank you.
@OklahomaGardening
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Glad we could be of assistance! Happy Gardening!
@rakeshchauhan5512 жыл бұрын
Waaoo great video mem . I am from 🇮🇳 india. Himachal pardesh (chamba)
@lisakukla4595 жыл бұрын
I've seen a really intriguing technique implemented where two trees are placed in the same hole, with the trunks about 4" apart. The entire middle area, the part facing the other tree, is pruned away, leaving the two trees to sort of make up one canopy.
@cristianapricop58193 жыл бұрын
put the cut branches in some water - or wet sand to make roots and you obtain another 3 trees
@scootin1236 жыл бұрын
Who in the heck would imagine Oklahoma would have something to offer the entire nation but we viewers in Virginia have come to appreciate the gardening videos from Oklahoma State whatever
@OklahomaGardening
6 жыл бұрын
Even though sometimes forgotten, Oklahoma does have quite a bit to offer! Thanks for tuning in all the way from Virginia! Happy Gardening!
@scootin123
6 жыл бұрын
Boy you cut them things low . Last year's tree purchases I selected low branching trees and didn't lop them off as shown here, then watch their leaves turn yellow and drop off . IN DISCUSS I pruned several ( plum, 3 apples, ) to two feet in about August . An unstated benifits to looping them low is the phenomenal growth I get to see instead of not pruning them and watching them not grow and suspect that they are dying. Here in this video you explain that the new spring growth should be pruned one third and again one third of the summer growth. That I haven't heard from any other KZread instructor and I will certainly do that particular on the plum I bought last year that I serverly pruned now it has many small dia. But long branches that I intend to espalier. Per your suggestion I could prune them 1/3 now and one third in July or August. Maybe Dave Wilson nursey probably explained that frequent warm weather pruning but I only caught it from this video
@Tienganhmrtuan4 жыл бұрын
I like your idea very much. I will try it as soon as possible.
@zigzagzarf8 жыл бұрын
freaked me out when you chopped the whole tree top off
@sagerainwillow10 жыл бұрын
I love this method! I'm in Florida and just purchased my first home. I want to grow citrus fruit, but half the backyard is septic and drainfield which leaves me only a small area where the root system of the trees won't affect the plumbing. Thanks for the great tutorial. This is exactly what I want to do!
@OklahomaGardening
10 жыл бұрын
We're so glad it helped! Happy Gardening!
@tbluemel5 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video! Thank you!
@GrowFamilyNetwork5 жыл бұрын
That's a good informational video 📹
@OklahomaGardening
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Happy gardening!
@wendyaa41604 жыл бұрын
super informative, thank you
@laneyopperman12186 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Lovenow8 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@scottpi7298 жыл бұрын
Another approach would be to plant one cherry tree, and graft 2 other varieties onto it, and manage them for balance. Do you ever do that? I've been experimenting with some chip bud grafting with cherries and peaches and plums and almonds. Which, incidentally, could all be grafted onto a single tree . . .
@hansgruetzenbach122811 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!!!
@real_wakawaka5 жыл бұрын
special thanks to dave wilson nursery for coming up with the idea, i think they started the trend.
@melindalemmon2149
4 жыл бұрын
This"trend" is as old as civilization.
@gweems82812 жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks for posting.
@dawnamerphotography57766 жыл бұрын
Just wondering how those cherry trees are doing now. I am doing a high density circle in my little garden (less than half acre) and some one told me and a nursery that cherry trees hate being pruned so now I am having second thoughts.
@TranceNotes8 жыл бұрын
Kim: super video! I have two different semi-dwarf pears: a Conference and a Williams bon de Chretien). The maximum planting distance I have available at the desired location is only 10ft. Is it better to plant them 10 ft apart, or plant them both in the same hole? TIA!
@Rinsuki10 жыл бұрын
She just wanted neat rows. You have plenty of room lady....
@lazygenes8 жыл бұрын
Hey Kim, I am wondering how the three tree system worked. I am planing on using the same system for dwarf apples. Like a three legged stool, If they were attached to each other would they be self supporting? It would illuminate the need for a costly trellis.
@GrowFamilyNetwork5 жыл бұрын
Good idea ma'am
@alisonburgess3453 жыл бұрын
I had an apricot and almond planted about 2 metres apart and they distinctly leaned away from each other. i wonder if those cherries would lean starkly apart ?...
@mvogelmeier17 жыл бұрын
can you please show me how to prune a braided apple tree?
@xmcmannes8 жыл бұрын
I have some young apple trees that I planted as bare roots two summers ago. They really haven't developed much and I plan on transplanting them to a new area in my yard and try the high intensity planting. Now, my question is: being two years old, am I still able to cut them down to 24"? I would hate to make that heading cut and accidentally kill them. What are your thoughts?
@jasonleeman778 жыл бұрын
make more video and cannot wait to watch it.......
@OklahomaGardening
8 жыл бұрын
+jason leeman We'll be updating the channel with our recent "Best of Oklahoma Gardening" today and tomorrow. Thanks for watching!
@jdogsbad6 жыл бұрын
do you suppose I can plant 2 ing cherries without a pollinator ?
@SaraGarcia-cy8ug7 жыл бұрын
Can one do this for pecan trees or are nut trees different?
@sharonslife61535 жыл бұрын
I have some 1 and 2 year potted apple and pear trees with 1 to 2 inch diameter trunks. Should I cut them off knee high like you did for high density planting? I mean are they too big for this?
@adronlamb93345 жыл бұрын
If the Pluot is a hybrid of plum and apricot, doesn't that also mean that they are pollinators for each other? I would expect maybe that some pears are pollinators for some apple varieties also. And that ornamental cherries pollinate sweet cherries? And that if a person lives in a neighborhood full of both fruiting and ornamental flowering fruit trees, two trees of different varieties are not always needed they just need to flower at overlapping time periods
@69juamex6 жыл бұрын
Do you really need that much space for the trees?
@davidharnden39149 жыл бұрын
Last fall I planted 14 fruit trees in a row about 4 ft apart. I amended the soil with a lot of compost but not much composted manure because I didn't want to encourage a lot of vegetative growth. I have not pruned the trees to 18" yet. When would you recommend pruning them in the OKC area?
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
David Harnden When it comes to fruit trees you should wait until the last freeze, this is called the late dormant season.
@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm32913 жыл бұрын
I wonder how this looks now.
@sangitagupta23934 жыл бұрын
Can Espaliering work with high density planting of fruit trees ?
@tom81819 жыл бұрын
May we have an update on these trees please?
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
***** We have since remodeled our gardens but when it warms up I will report on their production.
@jparks6544
5 жыл бұрын
@@OklahomaGardening lol. because your stupid shit did not work. I could tell just by watching what you were doing. not a clue.
@sandyp9983 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have just purchased a large cherry (over 7ft) and its trunk is quite a lot bigger than those on this vid. Would I still be able to cut back and have it recover well or will it be too much of a shock? Appreciate any help before I chop it. Very scary :/
@cyndismith4939
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it is still possible. There are many videos on KZread on high density fruit trees.
@Retrocomputernerd9 жыл бұрын
I am planning to plant 4 trees in a similar configuration. The trees will be planted in mid November in mid Michigan. When would be the best time to make the big pruning cut to knee height?
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
We would suggest pruning during the late winter depending on what late winter is for you.
@qataghane0079 жыл бұрын
so where is the update ? it has been 4 years now you should have updated by now
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
Qataghane Bek If I'm not mistaken we don't have an update on these plantings and the gardens have since been redone in this area. We apologize.
@spandir10 жыл бұрын
Hi, with 3 plants ( Peach/Nectarine/plum) in one hole how much total area ( Tree Canopy) they need to once they established ?
@OklahomaGardening
10 жыл бұрын
Here's a link that you may find helpful! Thanks for watching! www.davewilson.com/home-gardens/backyard-orchard-culture/high-density-planting
@lisakukla459
5 жыл бұрын
@@OklahomaGardening Wow, that's an excellent resource! Thank you for sharing!
@chocalatekid8024 Жыл бұрын
👏
@nou-nw87566 жыл бұрын
nice nice
@sophiafunworldatthepark67403 жыл бұрын
how is the garden now?
@johndowns7536 Жыл бұрын
Its 2023, how are your trees doing?
@espo184811 жыл бұрын
I was shock you plant 18" apart at least two feet apart.
@chrischambless3 жыл бұрын
Somebody has read Grow A Little Fruit Tree by Anne Ralph
@calebproductions59703 жыл бұрын
Of course no follow up
@ClickinChicken5 жыл бұрын
I screwed up with apricots in Minnesota. ha
@OklahomaGardening
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Happy Gardening!
@Love4rap199111 жыл бұрын
I almost cried seeing what you did to the plants :(
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This was almost 10 years ago, would love to see those trees now.
Very informative video! 👍🌲 It would be interesting to watch footage of a few years later showing these or other trees that were planted using this high density method.
Really comprehensive coverage of high density planting method. Nice job!
@OklahomaGardening
8 жыл бұрын
+Powell Gammill Thank you for watching! We're glad to hear it covered the topic well.
Great video Kim. This is something Dave Wilson Nursery has been doing for years. It's called backyard orchard culture. They have tons of videos about it. One major point she didn't drive home enough is never let any of the trees get bigger then the weakest variety. In addition it is very import to insure the initial caliper of each of the trees is similiar
@dagobaker
Жыл бұрын
yea its rare to find videos besides DWN doing the ed lavio style of knee high initial prune
@samnjoeysgrama1
Жыл бұрын
Really excellent! Great information much of it new to me, and presented without a lot of chit chat. This should be a training video for everyone putting videos on KZread.
This is the most interesting video on high density planting I have seen. I planted plums and apricots approx. 24 inches apart and my neighbor said I didn't know what I was doing. I did this without knowing there was such a thing as high density planting. You are one of the few individuals I have heard that know what they are talking about and for that I thank you for making this video.
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
4vinos Thank you, we really appreciate that! Thank you for watching. And Happy Gardening!
@sharoncourt75
4 жыл бұрын
Have they fruit out ok i am thinking of doing this
Crazy idea: If you are planting 3 cherries together, and you want the crop low and easy to reach, why not chop one off at 18", one off at 30", and one off at 42". That way each one can grow out in more of a 360 degree area, and each have more of its own height. Oriented with the short one in the south, and the other 2 behind that one. Like theater seating. Thoughts? (LOVED the video, btw. I have 3 bare root cherries waiting to be planted.)
@lisakukla459
5 жыл бұрын
That's a clever idea! Have you implemented this? I'd love to know how it turned out.
You might add a caution when cutting back to be aware of where the tree is grafted so you don't cut it below the graft. Also, if your tree is grafted with multiple varieties already, not cut it back as you will lose the already grafted varieties. Great video with good information.
Great Great Great! Thank you for such a clear explanation. I'm saving your video so I can find it quickly to review. At my age, I need repetition. I've just started with fruit trees in my small urban garden. I have two in the ground and four more coming. Keeping my trees small for easy management is just what I want. Thinking through the tree planting position to allow the weaker tree to be south to get more sunlight is genius. It never occurred to me. Thank you.
@OklahomaGardening
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Glad we could be of assistance! Happy Gardening!
Waaoo great video mem . I am from 🇮🇳 india. Himachal pardesh (chamba)
I've seen a really intriguing technique implemented where two trees are placed in the same hole, with the trunks about 4" apart. The entire middle area, the part facing the other tree, is pruned away, leaving the two trees to sort of make up one canopy.
put the cut branches in some water - or wet sand to make roots and you obtain another 3 trees
Who in the heck would imagine Oklahoma would have something to offer the entire nation but we viewers in Virginia have come to appreciate the gardening videos from Oklahoma State whatever
@OklahomaGardening
6 жыл бұрын
Even though sometimes forgotten, Oklahoma does have quite a bit to offer! Thanks for tuning in all the way from Virginia! Happy Gardening!
@scootin123
6 жыл бұрын
Boy you cut them things low . Last year's tree purchases I selected low branching trees and didn't lop them off as shown here, then watch their leaves turn yellow and drop off . IN DISCUSS I pruned several ( plum, 3 apples, ) to two feet in about August . An unstated benifits to looping them low is the phenomenal growth I get to see instead of not pruning them and watching them not grow and suspect that they are dying. Here in this video you explain that the new spring growth should be pruned one third and again one third of the summer growth. That I haven't heard from any other KZread instructor and I will certainly do that particular on the plum I bought last year that I serverly pruned now it has many small dia. But long branches that I intend to espalier. Per your suggestion I could prune them 1/3 now and one third in July or August. Maybe Dave Wilson nursey probably explained that frequent warm weather pruning but I only caught it from this video
I like your idea very much. I will try it as soon as possible.
freaked me out when you chopped the whole tree top off
I love this method! I'm in Florida and just purchased my first home. I want to grow citrus fruit, but half the backyard is septic and drainfield which leaves me only a small area where the root system of the trees won't affect the plumbing. Thanks for the great tutorial. This is exactly what I want to do!
@OklahomaGardening
10 жыл бұрын
We're so glad it helped! Happy Gardening!
AWESOME video! Thank you!
That's a good informational video 📹
@OklahomaGardening
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Happy gardening!
super informative, thank you
Thank you!
Thank you!!!
Another approach would be to plant one cherry tree, and graft 2 other varieties onto it, and manage them for balance. Do you ever do that? I've been experimenting with some chip bud grafting with cherries and peaches and plums and almonds. Which, incidentally, could all be grafted onto a single tree . . .
GREAT VIDEO!!!
special thanks to dave wilson nursery for coming up with the idea, i think they started the trend.
@melindalemmon2149
4 жыл бұрын
This"trend" is as old as civilization.
Interesting thanks for posting.
Just wondering how those cherry trees are doing now. I am doing a high density circle in my little garden (less than half acre) and some one told me and a nursery that cherry trees hate being pruned so now I am having second thoughts.
Kim: super video! I have two different semi-dwarf pears: a Conference and a Williams bon de Chretien). The maximum planting distance I have available at the desired location is only 10ft. Is it better to plant them 10 ft apart, or plant them both in the same hole? TIA!
She just wanted neat rows. You have plenty of room lady....
Hey Kim, I am wondering how the three tree system worked. I am planing on using the same system for dwarf apples. Like a three legged stool, If they were attached to each other would they be self supporting? It would illuminate the need for a costly trellis.
Good idea ma'am
I had an apricot and almond planted about 2 metres apart and they distinctly leaned away from each other. i wonder if those cherries would lean starkly apart ?...
can you please show me how to prune a braided apple tree?
I have some young apple trees that I planted as bare roots two summers ago. They really haven't developed much and I plan on transplanting them to a new area in my yard and try the high intensity planting. Now, my question is: being two years old, am I still able to cut them down to 24"? I would hate to make that heading cut and accidentally kill them. What are your thoughts?
make more video and cannot wait to watch it.......
@OklahomaGardening
8 жыл бұрын
+jason leeman We'll be updating the channel with our recent "Best of Oklahoma Gardening" today and tomorrow. Thanks for watching!
do you suppose I can plant 2 ing cherries without a pollinator ?
Can one do this for pecan trees or are nut trees different?
I have some 1 and 2 year potted apple and pear trees with 1 to 2 inch diameter trunks. Should I cut them off knee high like you did for high density planting? I mean are they too big for this?
If the Pluot is a hybrid of plum and apricot, doesn't that also mean that they are pollinators for each other? I would expect maybe that some pears are pollinators for some apple varieties also. And that ornamental cherries pollinate sweet cherries? And that if a person lives in a neighborhood full of both fruiting and ornamental flowering fruit trees, two trees of different varieties are not always needed they just need to flower at overlapping time periods
Do you really need that much space for the trees?
Last fall I planted 14 fruit trees in a row about 4 ft apart. I amended the soil with a lot of compost but not much composted manure because I didn't want to encourage a lot of vegetative growth. I have not pruned the trees to 18" yet. When would you recommend pruning them in the OKC area?
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
David Harnden When it comes to fruit trees you should wait until the last freeze, this is called the late dormant season.
I wonder how this looks now.
Can Espaliering work with high density planting of fruit trees ?
May we have an update on these trees please?
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
***** We have since remodeled our gardens but when it warms up I will report on their production.
@jparks6544
5 жыл бұрын
@@OklahomaGardening lol. because your stupid shit did not work. I could tell just by watching what you were doing. not a clue.
Hi, I have just purchased a large cherry (over 7ft) and its trunk is quite a lot bigger than those on this vid. Would I still be able to cut back and have it recover well or will it be too much of a shock? Appreciate any help before I chop it. Very scary :/
@cyndismith4939
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it is still possible. There are many videos on KZread on high density fruit trees.
I am planning to plant 4 trees in a similar configuration. The trees will be planted in mid November in mid Michigan. When would be the best time to make the big pruning cut to knee height?
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
We would suggest pruning during the late winter depending on what late winter is for you.
so where is the update ? it has been 4 years now you should have updated by now
@OklahomaGardening
9 жыл бұрын
Qataghane Bek If I'm not mistaken we don't have an update on these plantings and the gardens have since been redone in this area. We apologize.
Hi, with 3 plants ( Peach/Nectarine/plum) in one hole how much total area ( Tree Canopy) they need to once they established ?
@OklahomaGardening
10 жыл бұрын
Here's a link that you may find helpful! Thanks for watching! www.davewilson.com/home-gardens/backyard-orchard-culture/high-density-planting
@lisakukla459
5 жыл бұрын
@@OklahomaGardening Wow, that's an excellent resource! Thank you for sharing!
👏
nice nice
how is the garden now?
Its 2023, how are your trees doing?
I was shock you plant 18" apart at least two feet apart.
Somebody has read Grow A Little Fruit Tree by Anne Ralph
Of course no follow up
I screwed up with apricots in Minnesota. ha
@OklahomaGardening
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in! Happy Gardening!
I almost cried seeing what you did to the plants :(
Amigawd tree murder...