TQ Andy for all the efforts providing so much info and updates of so many earphons and amps. I just got this mp145. You guys are so absolutely right and this help me to quickly settled the filter. This iem is pre installed with the rose gold and I find it so boomy in the mid end bass, and making me feel a little disappointed of getting this highly regarded iem. I can't remember of this video that it should use the silver or rose gold. I quickly changed to silver and wow, the filter really change the tunning of this iem. And I watch your video to confirm that the silver is the right one for the later batches of this iem. Indeed it is way more balanced and neutral now with the silver filter. I love this iem so much! Oh! I can blast this iem louder and the low, mid and treble are just so perfectly balanced for me. This iem is simply a gem for the price.

@donglemadness

4 күн бұрын

Awesome. Enjoy your MP145!

Yup they did changed the tuning, I reviewed the MP145 twice can definitely vouch for the tuning dif. Glad Im not the only one noticing that. haha

Finally someone to step out and make a fair comparison for consumers! Good job! It is a good set but sadly MP145 is famous based on the OG tuning, now even my set, I need to change nozzle, tips and cable to get the best sound.

Dunu S & S are great for taming resonances in the upper freqs. As they are from smooth and soft-ish silicone. So they dont cut extension (quite opposite/they wide bore) but are ,,ironing,, peaks.

I have both gens. And yes 2nd gen doesn't sound same. 1st generation is better. I don't understand why Hidiz ruined their own homerun iem

@cxmxc

19 күн бұрын

Same happened w/ the tanchjim oxygen the new 2023-2024 production sounds bad!!!!

That's crazy that there were changes to the tuning on the same model. Kinda also very cool as well. Fantastic video, Andy! You have many nice friends to share this fantastic hobby with, and that's awesome!

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Thanks!

I had to return mine. The sound wasn’t as described in early reviews. It was too warm and the treble extension was lacking, even with silver nozzle. Thank you Andy!

Just like what HBB said, MP145 is good but Hidizs is not a good company... They should make an official announcement about this and make sure every new product has an indicator for which version it is. I'd be furious as a paying customer if I got the version I don't prefer just because I purchased it sooner/later. Luckily, I prefer warmer IEM and am slightly sensitive to treble, so the newer set is perfect for me. Both the neutral and bass nozzle sound amazing to me.

@wipeyourbuttocks

22 күн бұрын

I won a giveaway for the S8 Pro dongle but I received a faulty unit with a 10db drop at 16khz. Hidizs are a bunch of clowns 😂

Gracias Andy que lastima que no vi tu video antes, me acaban de llegar los míos y ya no me dan ganas de de probarlos, no tengo otro cable y me parece absurdo comprar otros para obtener un sonido similar al que ellos mismos daban originalmente, es lamentable que hagan esto.....

Thanks for the warning!

OG set here, silver nozzle TRN T tips Openheart 8 core silver coated copper cable and DT03 dac... perfection. thanks guys for this clarification and advice

I dont have the old version but my new version is good with silver nozzle so it matches with your finding

OMG finally a video about this ! Thanks so much Andy for upload this video Will help me a lot I see some videos talking about HIDIZS actually changes the construction and audio for new MP145

@bernaquinonezreveles2952

22 күн бұрын

So… it’s not worth buying the MP145 anymore? Or just changes nozzles and cables

@benchanification

22 күн бұрын

​@@bernaquinonezreveles2952 It's still worth buying. I still use my set regularly

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

MP145 is still a great IEM, you just need to swap nozzles to get the sound that suits you better

@bernaquinonezreveles2952

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness Thanks for the tip! bro O maybe I can’t wait for the MP143 hahaha. It’s seems perfect to my tastes. Kinda warn I think or V shape

I have the truthear reds, the artti t10, and several pthers and i can say that the Mp 145 are the best i own, i bought them for 90 bucks few weeks back and i think they are great i dont feel atracted to other similar price iems, but, and this is really important, i think there are no current reviews for this iem that matches the sound from the current version and yes they are the best i own, but they are not what was promised they will be, and something really important is that i feel that changing the tips doesnt make the sound the same, similar maybe but that warm and softnest that it should have it dosnt exist with the new version, which ever tip you choose

Great video Andy!!

@donglemadness

8 күн бұрын

Thanks bro :D

Thanks Guys!!! Rose Gold Nozzles and Balanced tips on the 2nd gen MP145 is flat and lacks upper energy. I was always curious why all tbe reviewers were raving about this set with balanced settings. For me, I had to change to Silver Nozzle and wider ear tips and then I get fhe sound I wanted... Shame that Hidisz done this without informing us and for me, this is a red flag for any future buys from this brand. Also, I still think the MP145 really needs a lot of Power to truly shine.. Thanks again..

@TheWorldTeacher

22 күн бұрын

💯

@Bounsy2D

2 күн бұрын

You can remove the foam inside the IEMs. @MichaelBruceShortbus has a video about it. That's what I did, and they are better without that foam. The foam isn't glued or anything, a simple long and thin tweezer will be enough.

@taipan75

2 күн бұрын

Thanks!!! ​@@Bounsy2D

@lasttempoinparis

15 сағат бұрын

@@Bounsy2D How that's very useful ! 🙏

Interesting no doubt. Thank you Andy.

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

No worries

Great comparison!

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Thanks!

Andy, thanks for doing this comparison. It's interesting that Hidizs has also responded to this topic, they are now inviting people to do a measurement on the frequency respond of MP145. (details can be found on their website)

@donglemadness

17 күн бұрын

Yep I saw that lol

I jus gotten the mp145 n it's my first ever IEM. It's sound awesome. The cable received is like titanium Silver kinda colour

We are waiting for your notes about this issue Andy! Nice to help! Waiting your review of Letshuoer s08! Maybe is the set for us to go!

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Thanks. Working on S08 now

@Nordi1_0745

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness Nice thank you! Also Meze Alba is an iem that many talk about!

idk what gen on mine, but i used silver filter and zhuaudio bamboo eartips to get more sparkling

I measured both of them and they have really different fr, i used the same rose gold nozzles on both and the new one had less bass and treble, i prefer the old one

@shdvf767

22 күн бұрын

Damn I was about to buy MP145 after hearing a lotta good reviews about it. I think I will not buy it.

@annjivitug5507

22 күн бұрын

I have the latest one and I find it so bassy/boomy and a bit sibilant so I had to do some tip rolling until the bass got lessened and the upper freq less brighter. So I guess it all boils down to preference? I think it still sounds better than Kefine Klanar, Timeless and KZ PR2.

@TheWorldTeacher

22 күн бұрын

@@shdvf767, I am selling my fist-run pair.

@Rsalmond83

22 күн бұрын

I just returned mine a few days ago because I was baffled as to why they didn’t sound the way early reviews described them. Bass was just okay and treble was lacking. I tried to give it a chance, even with the silver nozzle.

I don't know where I put my original cable but I have a Kinera cable on mine too now. Can't remember which one though, maybe the Ace.

So I think I got one of the first of the second revision, I can confirm it was noticeably warm, even on the brighter nozzles, though there is still planar brightness in it. But on the warmest nozzle planar timbre is almost eliminated and it is VERY warm, too much for me. But still it sounds great, I actually liked it more because it was not S12-like, which I think the 1st revision ones are. That's no excuse though, stealth revisions in chi-fi have been a problem for a while, companies have to be transparent about it, call it a variant model with an amended name and be honest instead of banking on old reviews.

Thank you Andy and Ben providing such important input. I come across some where, that MP143 is in progress soon?

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

No worries. I think it makes sense that Hidizs would release a new one, a year after the release of MP145, sounds about right to me

Thank you my friend i have also hidizs mp145 bought in may it sound warmer 😊

@TheWorldTeacher

22 күн бұрын

Warmer than WHAT? 👀

@nathz2020

22 күн бұрын

@@TheWorldTeacher warm but detail

this is good to know, thanks

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

No problem!

@afiqir5158

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness thanks bro, sbnrnya ada planning duk usha2 mp145 🙏

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Still a great IEM, you just need to use the Silver nozzle

the next step would be to open the IEMs and check the drivers. Of course if you two still love the MP145 then don't feel pressured to do it. This type of manufacturing change can have many causes: 1-corporate greed (save some dollars in each unit by going to different components) caused by Hidizs specifically ordering whoever is manufacturing to switch components; 2- corporate greed but it could be Hidizs just uses a third party to manufacture the IEM and this third party made changes without telling Hidizs and it didn't picked up the changes (plus Hidizs being incopetent for not noticing it somehow); regardless of the cause, having this variation for a 160 USD IEM is unacceptable. This is a premium price range in which the consumer is giving a vote of confidence to the company and deserves to be respected. At the very least Hidizs should have announced this officially

@TheWorldTeacher

22 күн бұрын

PREMIUM price? 😬

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

One thing for sure we will not sacrifice our MP145 just to look what's inside. I personally not into that sort of thing, to destroy any IEMs for curiosity sake, how they sound and perform is what matters more to me, not what's inside

@przem7827

11 күн бұрын

This is not acceptable and this is similar to Kingstone's case with SSDs. Hidizs should inform about changes on time and make changed version recognizable or im another way they could clarify modification and impact on sound. Choosing IEMs customers use reviews but MP145 reviews are not valid now. Hidizs current reaction is funny - they react because of customers confused, no sorry and still no detalis about modifications. The reason I am writing this is because I found differences on sound comparing to your reviews and found issue with left IEM...which was new. It was rattling with MID bass so finally returned IEMs. I am confused because of Hidizs company's policy and customers treatment and also quality Control. Be honest...this is not the same product. With earlier version we also had nozzles and be able to modify characteristic so in case of any change inside IEM you will have also differences in impression using different nozzles. Maybe this is still good product but Hidizs company made step in wrong side

New subscriber from Paris [Fr] I really appreciate your presentation and description and also the criterias for your ranking data. Ok, got the new gen MP145 following your review. A bargain @ €110 aka blue with 4.4 bal. it doesn't seem to be a favorite sale but I don't care i'm not a fashion victim. Lucky as i'm, one mesh was missing on the neutral tunning silver filter ! 😅 I'll either to order new box of tunning filter at Hidizs or else or detroy an unused filter. Change to 2.5 balanced and silicone tips wide bore with slightly longer lip for deeper fit in the ear canal. Portable source : Hiby R3 + Cmoy amp [ _Burr Brown opamp_ ] or Tube amp on desktop ( _both amp. component are slightly warmish and smooth_ ). + lots of DSD bit perfect files. Am I right with my ear tips choice ? Any better solution to limit the warmness and get more open stage ? I'm not Opamp and Tubes swapping just for the MP 145 🙄 Many thx 🙏

@donglemadness

Күн бұрын

Thanks! The eartips depends a lot on individual ear which could differ from one person to another. Like me, I always prefer KZ foam tips because it works best for many of my IEMs, but some people will find foam tips not working at all for them. So this is something that would require some test on the user side

@lasttempoinparis

Күн бұрын

@@donglemadness Ok I see. So I think I got my best ear tips choice then ( _TRN or Moondrop silicone_ ) I may try a smaller bore to judge, just in case ... Edit : problems solved. - ripped off the filter with a needle from the red tuning nozzles. - Keep Hidizs silicone neutral small bore for any music genre in my carrying box. - Keep TRN/Moondrop silicone wide bore pair ear tips too for Classical/Modern Classical and Orchestral for wider sound stage. 🔥 Just a week of use and a 100 hrs burn in then I'll switch my listening cessions on Tube Amp. and Cmoy portable Amp. 😍

I've been listening to my set ordered during the last set of June sales. Mine came with a white cable. So far with S&S tips with a copper cable, I find the silver nozzle caps to be too spicy. Reds are ok. I find the rose golds to be the most pleasant to use. I'll keep playing around with cables, caps and tips. Thanks for the update. Hope you or some other reviewer will be able to graph and show the differences you hear between various units.

@donglemadness

15 күн бұрын

My pleasure :D

Yes, thinner and less dense cable in the second wave …unfortunately. I have the second one, and I did not believe it until tried by my self… the tuning and quality sound and the cable…change between two versions. I love the latest, but I have the newest …

Why company do this kind of stuff is really bad and spoils reputation and sometimes even honest reviewers might land into trouble IMHO Andy

@woka_kawanua-hw2hj

22 күн бұрын

as per my info received that Hidizs is a start-up company. I mean, you know that type of company.

Hi,Andy.Great insight.Can you confirm on the loss on soundstage on the gen2?Thanks

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Both me and Ben do not feel that there's loss of soundstage

@DJHaworth

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness agree, heard both

And please suggest the best cable that you would recommend for 145 ..I will use it with the Fc6 dac ..my budget is upto 60 dollars

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

None other than AAV Valkynaz which I made myself, for further details you can watch my video on it. $50 for the cable and to place an order just email me at Andyaudiovault@gmail.com

Interesting, I'll have to nozzle swap some more on mine. I've always felt like they were too dampened and didn't have the good soundstage that reviewers mentioned even though mine were purchased in the Kickstarter.

@Bounsy2D

2 күн бұрын

You can remove the foam inside the IEMs. @MichaelBruceShortbus has a video about it. That's what I did, and they are better without that foam, less damped. The foam isn't glued or anything; a simple long and thin tweezer will be enough.

@nmatheis

2 күн бұрын

@@Bounsy2D I did that mod already and am using them without the nozzles right now (another shortbus tip). Definitely makes them sound less dampened but still not as spectacular as everyone is making them out to be IMO.

Andy in the last video i asked abt 7hz 71 vs fiio ka11 in terms of smoothness, you said ka11 is better in transient and 7hz 71 is crisp edged. Irrespective of power, which do you like the most in terms of smoothness across frequencies?

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

KA11 is smoother across all frequencies

@sanjaykumar.v8139

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness thank you for the reply andy, justice for AKM velvet ??😂😂

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

71 does not exhibit the traditional AKM tuning, the way they tuned it is more like ESS Sabre instead

@sanjaykumar.v8139

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness i had the 7hz 71 but it returned as it didnt have enough power to drive hd599, so i returned and got the shanling U1S but it turned out to be a trash, it sounds soo peaky and tuning is worse. I think shanling themself knew it was trash and upgraded to UA1 Plus with cirrus logic.

Impressive! 2 videos in a single day. But anyways I'm slightly sad over the silent tuning change in MP145.

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Thanks. MP145 is still a great IEM, they did change the tuning but you just need to play with the nozzles to get the right sound you want

@bamskie2024

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness, yah it just sucks that when you have the latest version of mp145 and instead of plug and play after you unbox it, you need to tweak with the nozzles first to suit with your sound preference.

@views8962

21 күн бұрын

​@@bamskie2024The inherent design isn't plug and play. That's not how the hobby works due to everyones hearing being different. Different ear shapes and hearing abilities. That's why I find it brilliant for any designer to incorporate tuning nozzles and multiple sets of tips.

@bamskie2024

20 күн бұрын

@@views8962 thanks for your insight! appreciated!

@views8962

20 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness Were you able to compare yours and his tuning nozzles? One other thing to rule out.

Hello , did your friend use the Ace 2.0 cable or the ver 1.0

@benchanification

22 күн бұрын

I use the 2.0

how can I tell when mine was released? thanks for review

@donglemadness

15 күн бұрын

3 months after July 2023 is when people started to say there's differences

Hi, is there a clear way to understand which is 1st and 2 nd gen by looking at it , I ordered mine in April , but i dont know if its new or old stock aince there was no date , bcoz i am not sure which nozzle to use

@donglemadness

18 күн бұрын

They all looked the same. You use whichever nozzle that works best for your ears, only you can determine that, which sound you like the most

@ocean21990

18 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness Thank you

Why do some companies pull this crap? It's like they're begging people to never buy their stuff again. I've always been sus of Hidisz after hearing about all their shady dealings. Like, this whole silent retuning thing is just whack. And then there was that time when they sent a defective dongle to the winner of their giveaway on Facebook. I don't know if they did it on purpose or not, but it sure as hell has made me to never consider buying their products in the future.

@TheWorldTeacher

22 күн бұрын

I experienced poor service from them also. 👀

Your rsnking is with the new or the older vetsion?

@donglemadness

6 күн бұрын

The old one, the same unit you saw in my MP145 review as it was released last year

Btw. those are interchangeable filters not nozzles.

so if i like a warmer sound. i guess i can stick to the rose gold nozel on the new one and be fine?

@donglemadness

6 күн бұрын

Yes that's the idea

@儒雅韵改Sharp

5 күн бұрын

Maybe

This is so interesting. At least I’ll still go with this set on my next buy then should match with your gift fiioka17 😎

That's sad. I have the latest version. I think it sounds good, but I want to know what the OG version sounds like. Is the latest version with the rose gold nozzles not good to your ears, Andy? How was it?

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

As mentioned in this video, the rose gold nozzle is warm sounding on the new verison, but perfect for the early gen. For the newer version, it sounds much better with silver nozzle (silver nozzle on early gen will sound very bright)

@annjivitug5507

22 күн бұрын

​@@donglemadness Thank you, I will try it out now.

Wow that's really Bad... I was looking to get one After your recommandations but now it stars to complicates a little bit

Why no graphs for comparison?

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

I don't have the means to do graphs

It is worth to get to know before order "new version" - kzread.info/dash/bejne/onij0qispsvPk6Q.html

Why not just measure? There's unit variation as well, maybe in the nozzles as well, so comparing just two proves nothing. I got one two days ago and it sounds really nice. Certainly no obvious issues in the treble with the default nozzle. Haven't tested the others yet. Better than Timeless unlike S12 and a few others so an easy recommendation.

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

We have no access to tools to measure

@hartyewh1

22 күн бұрын

@@donglemadness A copy 711 coupler is $100 and is still the standard for measurements at least a year or two until a copy 5128 comes out. It's easy stuff in the end.

Вот бы ещё в вашем рейтинге была указана цена, так было бы проще ориентироваться

@donglemadness

22 күн бұрын

Still working on it

it`s quite meaningless without measurements, but still nice 🤓

I wasted money buying the titanium version after seeing your rating of them. Disappointed

@KiwiNickG

22 күн бұрын

How, just use what nozzle works best?

@TheNEOONE1

22 күн бұрын

@@KiwiNickG there is no 'best' sound. Just a lot of messing around with nozzles, tips and apparently now cables.

You lost me at "cable changes the sound".

@teeteetuu94

22 күн бұрын

Going by personal experience, it does change the sound. If the cable is broken somewhere, no sound comes out from the drivers. There's the change. 😅

@LeDechaine

22 күн бұрын

Crappy KZ cables also exist... I was sure KZ IEMs were V-shaped until I bought a 10$ cable for em and all the mids appeared...

@DJHaworth

22 күн бұрын

it does

@yds1133

6 күн бұрын

@@LeDechaine Yup, i have similar encounter. I genuinely whole heartedly believed people that it doesnt make a difference and went with that for years. One day i use a simple cheapie KBear 3rd party cable (which i bought for purely aesthetics to match my desk tone) without paying attention or looking for differences and i was just listening to music because i never believe it anyway, and it stopped me doing whatever i was doing because i could tell the sound was different. Maybe luck would have it that coincidentally i had been listening the same IEM (single dynamic driver) for sometime and very very familiar with its sound with stock cable. When the cable was switched, i swear the difference is there. For my case, i believe the stock cable i was using was actually lower quality which had limited the full capability of the IEM giving me a thinner sound and missing fullness. I actually kept this stock cable because its my evidence that there is a difference