I remember getting Hexen for N64 as a birthday gift from a family friend... I didnt own a N64

@Deathtank75

2 жыл бұрын

what? lol 😂

@jonhall8845

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😭😭😭

@joelellis9480

Жыл бұрын

Lmao. Thanks for the unexpected belly laugh

@tabsntoot

5 ай бұрын

What a good friend

@Justforvisit

4 ай бұрын

Maybe he was a fortune teller and knew you would get one later on?

I played the hell outta Heretic for PC. It wasn’t until many years later I found this amazing game. I always play this game during the holidays.

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

It will never get old. A classic timeless masterpiece

@thumpyloudfoot864

2 жыл бұрын

@@FloridaEbikes same at my school... I remember trying to put the Doom cheats in and being punished in game for it...

@adam1984pl

2 жыл бұрын

This game is hard as hell,due to puzzle elements and backtracking.

@thumpyloudfoot864

2 жыл бұрын

@@FloridaEbikes oh I knew there were cheats for that game but I tried ths old IDKFA and IDDQD which killed me instantly LOL...

@SegaDream131

2 жыл бұрын

I tend to lean towards DIABLO 1 and Ocarina of time during holidays....

hexen is a jewel , this game had a especial place on my collection and in my heart

The words "a door has opened somewhere" have never caused me so much frustration... I've played Hexen on pc, playstation and saturn when I was a kid. Never managed to finish it on any platform until a few years later with the help of a guide. Hexen 2 is even more notorious for its puzzles.

@roberto1519

2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried Heretic yet? I find it so much better than Hexen in basically every aspect. Hexen's hubs approach may have been different and appealing for the time, now it's just annoying.

@Lord_Deimos

2 жыл бұрын

@@roberto1519 My dad liked Heretic so I played it when it was new. It is more like a 'Doom clone' than Hexen because it is less complex. I still replay Heretic, Hexen 1&2 once every couple years.

@roberto1519

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, it's almost a dark ages DOOM in a sense, and way more fun to play because of that.

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

Basically a 3D metroidvania way before the "genre" metroidvania was established like that

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

@@roberto1519 absolutely, Heretic was the real deal, i actually like it even more than Doom due the fantasy/medieval atmosphere, and the music kicks ass.

Fantastic game and a great port. Played through this version, the one on Nintendo 64 and the original DOS one many, many times. Always notice something new to love. The exploration is exciting, the different playable characters varied, the puzzles requries paying attention and thinking outside the box, the gameplay is truly unique and the terraforming environments are surely missed in most other games in similar style. It deserves all the praise it can get, a lost classic and something of an unsung milestone. A must in my Saturn collection.

@SgtSega

2 жыл бұрын

My first version was on the old Mac. Then on N64 with my best friend. Then I finally got it on Steam like a year ago. Could never get it burned properly to a blank CD for Saturn though. It'd glitch out like crazy.

It was a golden era. Sure, every game wasn't great, especially by today's standards, but this was the best and coolest that we had at the time. Modern FPS games would be nowhere if it wasn't for games like this that came before them.

i remember this game i had hours and hours of fun with it i love medieval games

You've brave for playing this on Saturn.

@JackRed6666

2 жыл бұрын

LOL yes.

@n0isyturtle

2 жыл бұрын

I swear you and SLX must have a monthly poker game or something where you collab on what to cover.

@peterfairchild258

2 жыл бұрын

Dude I played this on PlayStation,I always remember one save took up the whole card🥺

@peterfairchild258

2 жыл бұрын

@Gabriele Squaratti yeah nice bro🤟me too on PlayStation and 64 great little game 🤟🤟

@KevTheGalaxybender

2 жыл бұрын

why do you hate me and Vanquish?

This might be one of the most easily viewable classic gaming channels on a KZread due to the very smooth, conversational sounding tone of each video. There’s a lot of great, fair, and superb information on a wide array of games, many of which I’ve never played on Genesis, or Saturn. It’s also great to see how many people are finally discovering this great channel.

I just bought this on eBay a few minutes ago!!! I sure wasn't expecting this video when I got on KZread moments later!

I love Hexen... I've played it so much with my little brother!

"One sixth of the puzzle has been solved on the Shadow Wood"

Thank you for covering this. The Saturn version has surprisingly little content available on KZread.

I find it notable that this review was posted on the same day that an employee walkout happened at Raven software, the company that originally developed Heretic & Hexen for the PC. The walkout was due to parent company Activision Blizzard deciding to fire 30% of Raven's QA department even though they're currently in heading into their year end crunch time supporting COD:Warzone. smh

@PlumbDrumb

2 жыл бұрын

Stinky ol' industry!

@TexasHollowEarth

2 жыл бұрын

Raven is legendary. I hope they eventually make a spiritual successor to Heretic/Hexen.

@Astfgl

2 жыл бұрын

Raven today is a completely different company from Raven back then. They used to be an independent team with strong ties to Id Software, who specialized in dark fantasy style games. Now they’re just a factory line assembling Call of Duties to fill Activision’s pockets.

Man I was never too big on FPSes...but I love me the 90s FPSes...Doom, heretic, Hexen, Duke 3d, postal, quake...so much good memories. Preferred the pc versions for obvious reasons.

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

Blood was another great game from back in the day

@Rountree1985

2 жыл бұрын

@@PsychomachineryEBM and shadow warrior and rise of the triad

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rountree1985 indeed, those were great too 👍🏻

There was a Heretic 2. We played it in multiplayer long ago. Great game.

Genuinely one of the most underrated games of all time, absolute beast of a game.

The Best of sega. Lord X.

The Heretic and Hexen series deserves a remastered collection! Heretic and Heretic 2 were my favourites in this series

@Erikcleric

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure how much remastering there is to be done. Hexen, Heretic got full support on modern doom sourceports with all the opengl features, and using Doomsday you can play with 3D models. And Doomseeker works great as usual to start online games. A remaster is better used on something thats actually aged and got abandoned. Take No Prisoners, Heretic 2. Soldier of Fortune! The Doom era games are so heavily modified and supported across platforms that theyre basically remastered already.

I've been waiting for this one for awhile - Glad to see the Saturn Hexen getting some love. As always, a great video SLX!

Last year I remember listening to your videos about the 32x while doing a cleric play through on Hexxen. I love this game and your channel. Sad that some people can’t have a little puzzle in their classic FPS

Excellent review and impressive port - I liked how you stood up for Hexen's design ethos. It's a brilliant game often overlooked by Doom's run & gun nature. PS: The save situation was the same for the PS - IIRC, it took a whole standard card.

@SegaLordX

2 жыл бұрын

The Saturn memory card was a $50 purchase. And this one game took half of it.

@KittyFae-

2 жыл бұрын

The 64 version takes just shy of a whole memory card too.

@alleged_lobotomite

2 жыл бұрын

Not surprising considering it saves the location of every single corpse.

I have it for N64. It was one of my favs as a wee lad when playing with my brother together.

Loved Heretic and Hexen on the PC when they first came out. They were my gateway drug into Elder Scrolls. I would love to see Heretic/Hexen get the Doom 2016 treatment...

forgot about hexen god i played this for ages. A great game

Awesome! Love this game!

@SegaLordX

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I wish more would give it a real chance.

I wonder who came with the idea to port this game when DOOM was struggling with Saturn. However, I can imagine it was blessing for those who didn´t had PC and were grateful for DOOM and Hexen port.

Loved this game... Even this version... Total underrated classic!

@SegaLordX

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, I agree.

@MrSez1979

2 жыл бұрын

@@SegaLordX Thank you for another phenomenal episode. Keep the fantastic content coming. You have a legion of retro-head fans brother!

Played this first on the N64 back in 1997. To this day it is still one of my favorite games of all times. The N64 version has an absolutely amazing soundtrack, and nowadays you can play the PC version (better FPS controls) with that soundtrack, if you wish.

Never did play Hexen, but I did play Heretic on the PC back in the day. Had some great nostalgic memories of it! Great to see a review for Hexen as told through the eyes of SLX and his Sega spin on it. Back then and still to this day; I wouldn’t dismiss it as a Doom clone, it stood on its own feet as a solid FPS before FPS’ became pretty much the standard for modern gaming consoles.

The game save size issue is kind of odd. I mean, why couldn't they have simply saved the password to the memory card to allow you to quickly recall it. I'm sure the passwords probably resulted in rounded ammo counts and whatnot, but it would've made for a better experience when it came to loading and saving games.

I would like to see a remaster of all 3 games.

@SegaLordX

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. New 3D engine with a few modern design upgrades. Would be awesome.

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, the old school pixel art is the visual charm of those games imo

@roberthunter479

2 жыл бұрын

@@PsychomachineryEBM I love the old pixel art as well, yet at the same time, I'd love to see the trilogy (and Heretic 2) get the remaster treatment, similarly to Doom. Make it dark and gritty. At the same time, I don't want any ridiculous cut scenes to try and explain away the madness we all love. Just have a pure game for a change. I would be happy to be able to play those 4 games on a newer console, even in their glorious original state.

My friends and I played the hell out of this on N64. I was always the cleric.

What a beautiful game. Im glad you showed it to me, specially running on saturn. Im weird, and i like these pixelated old 3D FPS.

@TexasHollowEarth

2 жыл бұрын

Yes cuz old fps games were pure gameplay bliss.

fun fact: the PS1 version of Hexen takes up an entire memory card

@outdatedgear5036

2 жыл бұрын

I was just about to mention this lol. I remember looking on the back of the case before buying it. Seeing 15 blocks to save made me not want to buy it.

@dangelini1137

2 жыл бұрын

What? Lol

@ehrenloudermilk1053

2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@TimCant

2 жыл бұрын

Seems wild, the passwords are only like sixteen digits long!

@DigitalMorph07

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow that’s crazy. The most blocks I remember a game taking is Diablo…10 I think

ok I have to admit, love the music, especially goes wit whats happening on screen

For the last like 6 months now I've been splurging your channel watching so many videos and realised I'm not subscribed well that changes now

I’ve always appreciated the ‘ol HEXEN game! And I’ve played it on just about every port available back in the day in terms of home consoles. It’s dark and evil fantasy themes really appealed to me.

Shoutout to the man himself - SLX

I don't like any of these 32 bit era first person games on any system but I'm obsessed with the technical story of it all and how wildly different the Saturn port quality is from game to game. This one seems to get ignored in that discussion.

@crakrjakful

Жыл бұрын

you arent in a like just because you doesnt lived that time, in late 90's this was mindfucking

@caseyhayes4590

Жыл бұрын

@@crakrjakful I am pretty old and was the only "Saturn person" in my group of friends in the mid to late 90s. You're right that pretty much any decent 3D game looked great at that time. Hardly any still look good, but Virtua Fighter 2 might be one of the nicer looking on Saturn or PS1.

Hexen and Powerslave both have so much style. I hate to state the obvious but they are just so Iron Maiden like.

@willgregg1076

10 ай бұрын

Because powerslave is an Iron Maiden album

Man, what a nice review, dude! Brought back so many good memories of playing Hexen on my Nintendo 64 back in high school! I had to find a 55 page walkthrough online and print it out to get through it, but I beat it with no cheat codes! Though I did have a GameShark, and also used codes to explore some awesome deathmatches with my brother brother friends Nothing! Nothing like Doom at all! Better by far!

Wow, this jarred some old memories, I remember renting this from my local video store!

Thanks for the upload. 👍🏻😊😊😊

I kinda wish SEGA had stuck to its guns for their vision of the Saturn. So many great arcade games, especially SEGAs super-scaler library would have been all I needed to get a system that could go toe-to-toe with the Neo-Geo. Instead we got a bunch of mediocre "ports" of much better running games on other systems, a few pretty damn awesome 2D fighters, a couple 3D fighters that were OK and other stuff that just didn't interest me as a gamer at the time. Eventually, I'll come across a deal on a Saturn and I'll finally get to play what I've been missing. Until then, it'll remain a system I continue to enjoy through this mighty fine channel right here.

It still feels pretty badass that I got to play the entire Id game collection, including Hexan, using the Quake Shareware disc for only $10 back then.

@AFFL1CTED1

2 жыл бұрын

qcrack ftw

@BlownMacTruck

2 жыл бұрын

@@AFFL1CTED1 Yeah, piracy is totally awesome! 🙄

@AFFL1CTED1

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlownMacTruck ya, it was pretty awesome for a broke 13 year old, actually.

@BlownMacTruck

2 жыл бұрын

@@AFFL1CTED1 I see you don’t get it. Have some dignity.

@brpadington

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a copy of the Quake Shareware at a garage sale for this reason.

Loading the PC version on GZDoom with grandgreed's neural texture pack and a good soundfont is a treat for the eyes and ears. 🤘🏻

Glad you mentioned the soundtrack. It's one of my favourites of the era.

Awesome review man! I played a little bit of this on the N64.

Nice! More fuel for my love/hate relationship with Hexen!

thank's! a quality review, like usual.

Kids are at school, I have a day off and now this? That's what I call timing, sir.

@SegaLordX

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you approve.

Great work Sir thank you

Love watching Gman and SegalordX. Would be awesome to see a collab!

My brother won a PC(Yeah weird story involving it just turning up one day from a competition he'd forgot he entered), So I didn't know anything about any other versions of Doom, Hexen and Heretic I loved on it. You didn't get blood at all, Half life took years to come out and so did this. I didn't realise how lucky I was at the time...

I got this game about 7 years ago from a used book store. It was in a tote with a bunch of Wcw n64 carts and a Sega Saturn. The guy who runs the game area said "No one will ever buy that here" to me. I said I'll buy the whole tote. He sold me all of the stuff for $8. One av cord and I got a complete copy and a working saturn for a steal.

While I could never get too deep into the game, I always loved how it looked and played in the Saturn. Great atmosphere!

Hexen is a "life experience" level game. It alone, is reason enough to buy a Saturn. Amazing experience. Metroid Prime 1 level experience. Oh, btw, I'm a Turok enthusiast, huge fan of the games, and Hexen stands toe to toe with the first, and second games. Only a touch behind the third game, and better music than any of them. PLAY HEXEN ASAP!!!. Amazing gaming experience. Great game to get your kids into, if you want them getting into vintage games. Amazing game.

@thelastfeast3849

2 жыл бұрын

You would probably love powerslave if you like those games. That was my favourite on the Saturn and I was a big Turok fan too.

I bought a demo disc for $7 in ~1995 with Quake 3, Heretic, and Hexen from 7-11. There was a keygen readily available that unlocked all 3 games. Good times!

@drunkensailor112

2 жыл бұрын

Quake 3 was released in 99,not 95

Good review, makes me want to actually play this game on SS. From a technical point view this game is rather unique, in fact it's the first (and only) game which uses software VDP2 programming for building walls, a feature i've always wondered why noone had thought about this possibilities at the time (the swedeish guys obiouvsly did that, at least with this game), which once again proves SS can (could) be programmed in many (prolific) ways to produce great games with good 3D performance, something just a few, heroic developer did..

@jhkuno88

9 ай бұрын

This is a joke right? This game has terrible performance, and it has 2D enemies and elements all over instead of 3D.......Also what is running "VDP2 in software"? Do you know the difference between a game being rendered in software or in hardware? It seems youre very lost, or dumb or both...lost and dumb

Bro , love your content. You ever considered covering sega's output in the 2000s ? Like outrun 2006, valkyria chronicles, yakuza and stuff ?

Nice review mannnnnn

I don’t get why folks compare it to Doom, to me it’s more of a more action oriented Eye of the Beholder 😅

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

Gameplay i guess

I've beaten _Hexen_ on the "classic" Mac OS, and it was *brutal* , most-likely the second[1] most-difficult first-person game I've ever played, taking literally hundreds of savegame reloads; I can't imagine myself ever beating it on a system with passwords/one savegame… [1] _Hexen_ had an expansion pack, _Deathkings of the Dark Citadel_ ; it's even more difficult o_O ._.

Hexen has truly become a "hidden gem" due to how misunderstood the game was at release. It has suffered the same fate as many games that were ahead of its time. Generally many reviewers review their expectation of a game, rather than understanding the core pillars of the game and how well it delivers on those premises. I played through the whole game last year with GZDOOM engine and "Chronos Unleashed" mod (adding widescreen support, bug-fixes and such) and honestly guys, this game is incredible. I wish I knew back in 1995. and wasn't deterred by reviewers at the time. Back then it seemed like a cheap Doom knock-off, but in fact is was the opposite, it just used the Doom engine, the game was a completely different game, incredibly advanced and offered something truly unique. It was basically Metroid Prime, long before Metroid Prime even existed.

@Erikcleric

2 жыл бұрын

Yea i also cant count how many times i played it on sourceports. I use those upscaling filters to preserve the sharp textures and turn of bilinear filtering, looks great.

I had Hexen on the PC back in the day. Really liked it for what it was.

This along with the Myst port were my first titles and I have a special place for them...🤗👍

Damn Ed wasn’t messing around about that doom game! Calling for the execution for all parties involved?! A bit harsh.

@rorychivers8769

2 жыл бұрын

We expected better from console developers in those days, what can I say

Very interesting, never knew this game, but knew very well Doom saga :) Thanks ^^

I haven’t thought about this game in years, and even longer than that since I’ve played it. The two things I remember, and this video jogged my memory…one was the stained glass like windows…such a burst of colour set amongst a dark game….the other thing is, I’m pretty sure I got lost and just gave up lol. Pretty sure I still have it….will have to look

this is back when pc was still the dominate platform for fps. these kinds of ports where passable until u played the pc version and began to understand what you were missing.

good channel dude, i enjoyed hexen on the N64, even tho i always got stuck on like the third level.. it had a lot of atmosphere. for saturn games, you should review that robot fighting one.. i cant remember the name though

Rise of the Triad is also in the Heretic series, being the last. Romero always Said that it's Hexen, but several centuries later.

There is also a Heretic II, from 98 or 99. Its definitely not part of the Serpent Riders Trilogy but is a fourth game in the series. The rights are owned by Activision and given their penchant for remastering classic games perhaps we will see another one.

@PsychomachineryEBM

2 жыл бұрын

And it never felt like an Heretic game, quite frankly. A big meh overall.

Hexen and Heretic were two of my favourite games back then on the PC. I think I never finished them, or I actually don't have any memory of finishing any of them. Probably should play thru them someday! :D

I had it on P.C., loved it. Beat it with all 3 classes.

One of my 1st games on n64

looks like some pretty cool enemy types as well.

Hexen is my favorite of the Heretic / Hexen series. I got this for the PC as a birthday present in 1996. It's much better than Heretic was (Heretic really did feel too much like Doom, even though it added an inventory system and looking up and down). Hexen II was fun as well, though it was extremely confusing in some areas. Heretic II was just... ugh. That one is best left avoided, in my opinion. This one was fun to play in multiplayer. I think it's best suited for co-op play, as deathmatching wasn't as fun as it should have been. The Saturn version did have a multiplayer mode in it from what I understand, but it required a link cable that wasn't officially released in the USA. I also have this for the N64, and while it's not as good as the PC version, it's still fun. I wouldn't mind trying the Saturn version out... but of course I'd need to get a Saturn first, it's been ages since I've played with one. I also feel like I'll be in the minority when I say this, but the mage was my favorite class. I did not like the cleric. I thought that was a really dull class. I'll take the Bloodscourge over the Wraithverge anytime.

@puni3094

2 жыл бұрын

Heretic 2 is fucking awesome. Its gameplay went to Jedy outcast and Jedi Knight Academy. I tried Hexen(really beautiful) but too much bactracking. Thankfully there was Heretic that was beautiful and no fucking puzzles.

@buttonz6139

2 жыл бұрын

I felt heretic was far better than Hexen

They should make another Hexen and make it play like current day doom but with magic. So fast paced, combo kills, classes.

never played Hexen but the Music sounds awesome I want to Hexen a try It's looks fun

God I wish I had this one on Saturn 😩

@SegaLordX

2 жыл бұрын

It's not super expensive. PC version is dirt cheap.

Wow i didn't know of this game when i owned my Dreamcast but i would've definitely brought this title for myself and game collection & the Wizard would've been my favorite character ✌.

I had no idea the genre of first person RPGs went this far back!

Hexen is awesome.

You know I’m not sure Carmack was wrong about slave driver it makes me nauseous the way it warps textures I really want to play through Powerslave but it makes me motion sick

I'm a big fan of Powerslave and its use of the 3D Control Pad on Saturn; in fact, I got a Saturn last year just because of it and is probably my favourite game on this system. I really liked its backtracking and metroid-like style of exploration, so I might give this one a go in spite of its aged visuals if the experience is similar in the end. Do you know if you can use analog controls for this one as in Powerslave, Duke and Quake? Thanks in advance, I love your videos, your passion for videogames and the way you express yourself. English is not my mother tongue, but I manage to understand almost everything you say because of how clearly you speak.

@williamgregg8062

8 ай бұрын

No analog controls

Save files use half a memory card yet also has a password system... why didn't the save file just save the password then "auto load it" when loading the save file? Seems like just saving the password string would have saved a TON of save space in the save file. Great video as always!

@alleged_lobotomite

2 жыл бұрын

Because the passwords simply don’t save much, you only get a password at the start of each hub. While if you use a memory card you can quick save whenever, and the save is so detailed it stores the location of every corpse.

Somehow I missed this one back when I owned a saturn . Most of the stores in my area had small selections of games to buy for the console . As time went on it was harder for me to find saturn games locally to purchase and only one video store at the time in my area rented sega games. Lol i think that rental only had about 10 or 15 saturn games to choose from. I loved my saturn but really feel like I missed out on some games I just didn't have much access to. One day I'd like to revisit the system and check out many of the games I unfortunately missed out on.

It's interesting how Hexen and Doom played out on the Saturn and PS1. Saturn got a really bad Doom port, but good Hexen port PS1 got a great Doom port, but the Hexen port it got was just, there's no other word, awful Also interesting note, the Saturn and PS1 versions may be based on the Beta of the PC version. It's strongly suspected because there's many level design differences, and in a few places, the Cleric's final weapon Wraithverge uses its beta golden design from right before it was converted into Wraithverge, all the beta designs for the weapon were called Justifier btw. And just for the record, Hexen takes such a massive space saving because it has to save the exact state of every level in the hub you're in (every object, door, moving platform, etc) as opposed to the console ports of other games which usually just save, your weapons, health, and what level to start you on.

this game looks awesome!

yeahhhhhh SLX

While this was a sequel to Heretic, a Heretic 2, 3rd person game was eventually released for PC-only, just like the original game. I never got to play that one, but it looks to play alot like LoK Blood Omen 2, which wasn't well-received. I played the shit outta Heretic & Hexen on my Dad's PC, growing up. Great Video SLX & thanks 👍.

I remember renting this for the N64 at Albertsons when it came out.

Heretic was freaking rad. Was a lucky lad to play it at the age of like 5 or 6

At the 10:50 mark, you're playing a secret level I can never find legitly. I played through Hexen twice last year and couldn't find that secret level. For whatever reason, it was my favorite level to play around in when I was a kid and couldn't play the game without cheat codes

Brings back memories of playing this on the PC (first one I bought). It ran much smoother than this one but the soundtrack here seems CD quality whereas the PC version used a cheesy MIDI soundtrack…

Slight correction, but.. Saturn Doom was actually a straight port of the Playstation Doom code not the PC Version From Jim Bagley : we were given the PC and PlayStation data, but initially, I wanted to use the Saturn’s hardware to its max potential, and wrote a render engine to display the PC levels drawing the walls with the GPU, the problem I came across, was apparently John Carmack wasn’t happy about this, he wanted it to look exactly the same as the PC version, but it looked a lot nicer, and was running full screen at 60fps, he said it had to be drawn using the CPU, and not the GPU, he even suggested I used the two DSPs on the Saturn to render the screen, but as they only have 4KB, and if I remember correctly, as it’s been a very long time since I used one, 2KB code space and 2KB data space, doing it this way to render a complete screen full of game, would have been a huge memory bandwidth bottleneck, so I ignored that, and did it using the two SH2s to render the screen, each of the two CPUs splitting the draw time, doing a line each of the walls or floors, and to save time having to reduce the PC levels to fit into the Saturn’s memory, we decided to use the Playstation levels as they had a smaller memory footprint than the PC ones, so it made sense to convert the PlayStation levels, I was quite happy with the end result, as the SH2s ran at 33Mhz and 28Mhz respectively, and I remember playing doom on a 33Mhz PC and it having to play in a stamp sized display to play at a reasonable rate, where as the Saturn was pretty much full screen but this isn’t dissing John Carmack, he’s a very talented coder and clever bloke all round, it’s more me being proud of what speed I got out of two relatively slow cpus.

Probe Software handled the dire Playstation version and did a direct PC conversion. ATOD handled the Saturn version, only asked Probe for assistance when needed and used the Saturn hardware properly. Both versions are based on the early beta version of PC Hexen

I loved watching the drawings in the book for pc