It may not be quite historically accurate, and you could probably edit out Vegetables & reduce the length of Do You Like Worms, but I think you've pretty accurately captured Heroes & Villains, which really is more of a sprawling sound-collage than one specific song. This works pretty darn well. It also helps show why both the SMiLE album and H&V single were so difficult to finish, essentially they are the same thing, distinct from but indistinct to each other; you can't easily separate a "single" out from the rest of the material.

@markanthony1843

3 жыл бұрын

Why would he edit out Vege - Tables, its a part of SMiLE

@drifter402

3 жыл бұрын

It's only a sprawling sound collage because of all the scrapped bits that we can listen to.

@joshj4670

3 жыл бұрын

@@drifter402 It's a sprawling sound collage because it has no actual structure. Heroes & Villains doesn't have any kind of verse/chorus and it doesn't have any real narrative, either. Working on Good Vibrations in sections was possible because there was a basic verse/chorus that could be played with; El Paso by Marty Robbins worked because it has a narrative structure. H&V has neither, it was just a bunch of sound snips that Brian was trying to arrange into a song. That's why it's more of a sound collage than an actual single.

@edwardmeradith2419

3 жыл бұрын

The problem wasn’t that it was a ‘sprawling sound collage, not that there the lack of a narrative. There is structure: the Db verse, the Eb minor chorus, the Ab cantina bridge (if you want it) and the great acapella coda, Eb minor fade, The problem is that Brian lost confidence: re-recorded bits that may not have needed redoing, erasing others, recording variations of small motifs. it’s like his focus moved away from the bigger picture to obsessive minutiae. Maybe he tried to hard; maybe he couldn’t stop trying.

@BrendanJSmith

2 жыл бұрын

Except Good Vibrations, Vega-Tables, and Surf's Up.

Da Vinci, inventing modern machines but the materials he needed to make them last or build them wouldn't be invented for a few 100 years. Now imagine Brian in 66-67 with ProTools. Aliens would have certainly landed and would have said "Take us to Brian Wilson".

@DeepFrigidWinter

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah seriously. He just used a multitrack recorder right? Like a 24 track sony thing

@luckykennedy7364

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeepFrigidWinter 4 tracks but only used 3 and left the 4th for the mono mix down

@Vinyl_guy

Жыл бұрын

He could have done endless takes without using valuable tape, if someone was off key he could digitally tune it, he could add so many studio effects and just think of the possibility’s.

@lagboi4539

Жыл бұрын

​@@DeepFrigidWinterAt 66-67 I believe only studio with an 8-track recorder in LA was the Columbia studios where lot of the vocals were tracked. Also Brian had his own 8 track recorder he brought to sessions

Heroes and Villains is my favorite Beach Boys song. A greater accomplishment than "Good Vibrations", to my mind. The "...my children were raised...." section kills me every time.

dude there's something literally magical about this album, I can't stop listening to it and enjoying those harmonies.

@Y-two-K

2 жыл бұрын

It feels like it transcends time in a way. Super groovy time on psychies.

@Paul-dw2cl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Y-two-K what are psychies ?

@Y-two-K

2 жыл бұрын

@@Paul-dw2cl psychedelics

@twigani306

Жыл бұрын

Well it’s called Smile for a reason lol

@dad2ambx276

Жыл бұрын

That’s why he made it

This is THE version of Heroes and Villains, beautiful soundscapes. I'm 67 and this has blown me away.

This is insane! Imagine this coming out in 1967

The most under rated song in the history of popular music

Fire coming after the cantina segment and 'you're under arrest' was so brilliant! Never thought of that possible connection.

God that mixing of vega-tables and with me tonight is killer

Pretty fucking brilliant, mate. I'm sure it would have give Love a heart attack 😂. We can quibble over choices made, but this is really great. Psychedelic Barbershop at it's finest. I have to believe that something like this is most definitely what Brian was after. Well done 👍

@weatheredtome

2 жыл бұрын

If only.

This is really interesting. I always like hearing reinterpretations of Smile material, my favorite album of all time (I've had various mix tapes of Smile going all the way back to the mid-70s). I have my own mix of Heroes and Villains that runs about 12 minutes. I've never had the guts to post it anywhere.

@spoonito

5 жыл бұрын

POST IT!!! The best thing about smile is all the creativity it inspires in so many people!

@salvie5

4 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? Post it!

@weatheredtome

2 жыл бұрын

Post it and I'll bake you some cookies

@spoonito

Жыл бұрын

Just another bump to post your H+V mix somewhere so we can hear it! Also you can download the full Smile Pocket Symphony mix here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tIawq_CVPv3b1lpVeQBGD8ncNzwzDZLP

@hippojuice23

20 күн бұрын

Post that muth** fu***in shit!

“My big chance and I blew it” at the end hit

@spoonito

3 жыл бұрын

Love that you caught that!

@thevideocommenter3061

2 жыл бұрын

rip SMiLe :/

This is fucking HOT! Weaving in With Me Tonight and Vegetables into H&V? I'd love to know what this song was supposed to be for radio before it got scrapped and later reworked for Smiley Smile. This composition is absolutely brilliant. THANK YOU!

This had me hooked all the way through and I think this really captures the spirit of what H&V could have been.

@lecgiu2970

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Dude. Amazing.

Our Prayer/Gee/Heroes & Villains is the best sequence Wilson ever composed imo.

this is nuts

Thank you; tonight, we needed very much, and most precisely, just this...

What an honor to the music, certainly love what you have done, never a dull moment, lead on, thank you!

This is awesome, man! Mind blown!!

This is the kind of stuff I WISH was on Spotify!

@spoonito

7 ай бұрын

Me too! I wish I could find a place to host the full mix, because KZread took it down last year...

Always loved Heroes & Villains..this is a bit nuts, still love it though, thanx for this mix.

Awesome mix, thank you for making this happen!!

@spoonito

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Check out my longer mix of Smile if you like this!

masterpiece!

Epic mix!

Thank you for your work.

@spoonito

Жыл бұрын

Definitely check out the whole Smile Fanmix: drive.google.com/file/d/13HjU04kDKGwkCAxNlh7jhk_uGpXYdNHo

Mind blowing.

That transition from the Vegetables fade back into Heroes & Villains… GODLY

Great stuff !!

Awesome

Fabulous work !

Thank u! This is awesome. Brian is so freaking creative

Superb!

no shortening bread?

Damn fine job!

should have tens of thousands of views

Thank you.

in the groove !!!!!!

13.50 aprox. appears an abrupt silence!!!!

I feel like you could fit the entire Smile album into Heroes and Villains.

@spoonito

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, that thought was the breakthrough I had putting it together. I think that Brian was under pressure to release SOMETHING from Smile, so he scavenged parts from all over it to make the Heroes and Villains single... which then meant it was impossible to finish smile because he'd "used" it up already. That's my theory anyway, so I rebuilt smile with that in mind... like making it into "one giant heroes and villains" ha.

@raydarable

2 жыл бұрын

@@spoonito You did really good.

Nicely done with this! I have beeb thinking recently that I bet smile would have worked well if it had aa "Party!" Type feel to it and your intro captured that pretty well!

@spoonito

3 жыл бұрын

Hi! That's exactly what I'm going for and I'm so glad it came through!

I've been putting off listening to this for quite some time, all I have to say: Thank you, and well-done.

@Skizze37

3 жыл бұрын

That ending was perfect

@thevideocommenter3061

2 жыл бұрын

holy, a surfposter in the wild

@Skizze37

2 жыл бұрын

Hey I recognize that pfp

I like it! Nicely mixed.

@skevinsquagos9343

5 жыл бұрын

Mixed is exactly how'd I describe it too! You can mix lots of things which can be found around other things if you look hard enough. Not hard like D-Son though. No one's that hard.

@rangergrrrl

5 жыл бұрын

@@skevinsquagos9343 Who or what is D-Son? Am I gonna go "duh!' and slap my forehead when you tell me?

Do you have a link to the full version? It’s amazing and I’d love to hear it all

long boy

I just wish the section from 15:25 to 15:37 went on for longer. Love that part.

@spoonito

4 ай бұрын

Same, one of my favorite sections!

Does anyone have Nick Confalone's "Full Smile Pocket Symphony Mix"? It appears the link in the description was copyrighted by Brother Records. I would love to hear the full version because this version of H&V is amazing!

This is what Brian hears when the LSD hits

@weatheredtome

2 жыл бұрын

Feel better about being a jerk?

@SnoW-wc2rw

2 жыл бұрын

@@weatheredtome not my fault you read it in a different tone I wasn’t being a jerk at all

@weatheredtome

2 жыл бұрын

@@SnoW-wc2rw lol yeah, because making light of one's crippling addiction is totally in good taste. You're such a sad human being.

@SnoW-wc2rw

2 жыл бұрын

@@weatheredtome he chose to do psychedelics so the reason why I said this is what he hears when he took it lsd because it’s true he heard crazy sounds this his nothing to do with me making fun of a man I look up to

@weatheredtome

Ай бұрын

​@@SnoW-wc2rwtwo years later and you're still an asshole

If Brian had something like this in mind for the mix... I mean gosh I would like to know what he had imagined.

that's great... how'd you made it?

Why does the audio cut out at 13:44?

God it’s a shame the do you like worms bit is muted, I wanna know how the sections would’ve transitioned

i’m here from a link on a reddit comment aren’t you the guy i replied to just few hours ago on a mccartney video? small world

what is the piano chord at 0:03???

the audio cuts-out from 13:44 to 14:45

@JomarFelipe

2 жыл бұрын

Probably a copyright issue

What happened to the 40 min smile album?

@spoonito

Жыл бұрын

KZread DMCA takedown... =( I'll have to find some other way to host it.

@frank9606

Жыл бұрын

@@spoonito man that sucks, that mix was incredible

@spoonito

Жыл бұрын

@@frank9606 You can download: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tIawq_CVPv3b1lpVeQBGD8ncNzwzDZLP?usp=sharing

@frank9606

Жыл бұрын

@@spoonito amazing, thank you so much!

@duckworp

Жыл бұрын

@@spoonito do you have a download of this H&V Nick…there is a minute gap in this version around 13 mins?

I'd die a happy death if I never hear beach boys vocals again. They sing great but Brian Wilson backing tracks are what the future will be praying to.

@weatheredtome

2 жыл бұрын

An easy way to stop that from happening is to quit searching for the videos ..... idiot

The west coast is the best

a bit too forced, I doubt BW had this much disjointedness in his mind, it should all flow, like PS did, and remember he had SPLHCB across the shore in mind in terms of flow.

@weatheredtome

Ай бұрын

Make your own version then dickhead Also, funny to say that this is too disjointed for Brian considering that's the entire reason the project was shelved

H&V is first and foremost a narrative -- therefore you must assemble in the proper order: V1 V2 Chorus Bridge V3 Chorus V4. Bri removed Great Shape and Barnyard very early on -- simply because their lyrics don't obviously support H&V. The sonic monster you've assembled here makes no sense whatsoever...and frankly, it comes off as a SMiLE nightmare.

@weatheredtome

Ай бұрын

Make one yourself then, jerk. Seriously, what an absolutely trash comment to make. You need to re-evaluate your life and entire view on what SMiLE was even supposed to be. Did I mention you're an ass?

I'd die a happy death if I never hear beach boys vocals again. They sing great but Brian Wilson backing tracks are what the future will be praying to.

@weatheredtome

2 жыл бұрын

You were so dumb you posted this twice?