Oh my gosh. How does this guy have a job let alone be allowed on tv. Wow.

@howardchiu7109

18 күн бұрын

Or he doesn't know what he is talking about.

@teole6364

18 күн бұрын

The ironic thing is, he got paid

This guy wants the stock to tank so the vultures can take it over. It was in his contract!

@h.nguyen4193

17 күн бұрын

ok musk fanboy. It was in his contract that he'll deliver cars on time. And years later people are still waiting for their cars.

@stereoreviewx

17 күн бұрын

This guy is saying he invested in the year 2000 well Tesla didn’t exist in any form in the year 2000

@BranislavB-hx9zy

16 күн бұрын

Nope! Tesla can be good when problem number one is gone! South African Elon can move to his friends in Russia and China, which he likes better than the USA!

@user-vh3fr3lb8w

16 күн бұрын

​@@h.nguyen4193shame on this musk toyboy

I haven't heard one good argument against elon's pay package

@ukaszszczygielski2713

17 күн бұрын

Tesla shares droped from 450 to 170 dollars.

@emerica187

16 күн бұрын

@@ukaszszczygielski2713 how is that an argument against? Are the gains from 2018 to now not more important than the losses from 2022-2024? The stock is up huge and the losses have nothing to do with the contract because he still met the goals despite the losses from ATH

@soup-nazi6824

16 күн бұрын

​@@ukaszszczygielski2713That's irrelevant because the shares were about $11 & he took them to about $200 in the time frame he promised & no one believed he could achieve that & that's why the board agreed...

What are the best strategies to protect my portfolio? I've heard that a downturn will devastate the financial market, so I'm concerned about my $200k stock portfolio.

@MablePauls

18 күн бұрын

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@Elizabeth-mh2dj

18 күн бұрын

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@SirBenjamin-oq1wd

18 күн бұрын

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@Elizabeth-mh2dj

18 күн бұрын

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@SirBenjamin-oq1wd

18 күн бұрын

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Why this guy invest in Tesla?

@BranislavB-hx9zy

16 күн бұрын

He invest because Tesla can be good when problem number one is gone! South African Elon can move to his friends in Russia and China, which he likes better than the USA!

Pay that man what you agreed too

@fauxbro1983

18 күн бұрын

Tesla is stagnating bro.

@andynak7672

18 күн бұрын

tesla is not growing at the rate to jusitfy that pay package.

@teole6364

18 күн бұрын

@@andynak7672the agreement was to archive xyz by specified time. Doesn’t matter what happens after. Where do you work, tell your boss not to pay you this year. If you are ok with that then you can talk.

@h.nguyen4193

17 күн бұрын

I'm still waiting for my car 2 years later. pay me?

The guest is a clown and he’s not funny at all.

@h.nguyen4193

17 күн бұрын

so many musk fanboy trolls.

@BranislavB-hx9zy

16 күн бұрын

Nope! He invest because Tesla can be good when problem number one is gone! South African Elon can move to his friends in Russia and China, which he likes better than the USA!

"It's a car company" He sounds like a short seller.

@slackbomb

18 күн бұрын

So what is it then? If it’s not a car company then it’s worth nothing

@D9Wx

18 күн бұрын

​@@slackbomblmao braindead sheep spotted 😂

@ironmikehallowween

17 күн бұрын

Was it not a car company before? What a moron this guy is

@ocampbell1954

15 күн бұрын

​@@slackbombIt's energy business begs to differ

Looking back 5 years later the statement saying Tesla is just another car company will be a huge joke. And you are being a 🤡 saying that this compensation package is too much for him, despite the fact he created ten times more value for the shareholders by accomplishing mission impossible. An entity that doesn't even try to fulfill the obligation that comes with an agreed-upon contract doesn't have the most basic business ethic, period.

@Dr.Weed8

18 күн бұрын

He didn’t create anything. Tesla got acquired by the index funds. If he gets the pay package be prepaid for Tesla to drop 50-70%. The index funds might dump Tesla from the S&P and Nasdaq. Most people buy index funds to invest in and musk is just robbing 3% of the value from everyone’s savings. Tesla doesn’t need an over payed drug addicted CEO that doesn’t even care about the company. He will just take that money for other projects. Musk is not that valuable, he doesn’t even do anything for Tesla other than send annoying tweets. That’s not worth 50B. I sold all my Tesla back at $280. I bought it when the cyber truck started to get released and then immediately dumped it for a small loss when this came out.’

Ugh , what an empty suit . 7 years no pay for Elon . Pay the man’s contract !

@PAULGMSTEVER

18 күн бұрын

Of course finance never want to pay if they can avoid it. But if someone said no salary but I take company from $50 billion to $600 billion and get $50 billion of that gain. Sounds good like a fair proposal. Lawyers would want much more! lol

@sinkorswim7631

18 күн бұрын

He needs who the heck is this guy???

@dynomotivedyno9194

18 күн бұрын

Bezos and Zuckerberg don't get paid. It's their company, they own shares. Shares go up, they get paid. Duh.

@markthomas7279

18 күн бұрын

​@@sinkorswim7631hmmm that's unintelligible!!!

@jasonsmith7518

18 күн бұрын

$56B is too rich for a part-time CEO.

He is saying we invested in the year 2000 that it cannot be true. It didn’t even start till 2003. The first car came out in 2012. Is he insane?

This was a BS interview. The initial agreement and deliverables were never discussed. What's CNBC's agenda here?

@harambenolevest69

18 күн бұрын

Commie Carl is the worst.

@darrenhere5856

18 күн бұрын

@@harambenolevest69 he has a bona for Elon.... he is a total commie

@xt5181

18 күн бұрын

What kind of musk bot are you ? The initial agreement was fraudulous and cancelled. Nobody deserves that much money, this package is a total joke on employees and shareholders.

@h.nguyen4193

17 күн бұрын

whats musk fanboy agenda?

@howardchiu7109

17 күн бұрын

Don't know why he still holds the Telsa shares if he thinks Telsa is only car company and overvalued. Feel sorry for clients.

What are CalSTRS returns since 2000? And what would those returns be with out TSLA?

I WILL BUY MORE TESLA SHARES TOMORROW.

@joelhawes7749

17 күн бұрын

Prove it, broke boy

Spineless, how does he get to decided what is fair. Respect the contract, period.

@chiquita683

18 күн бұрын

Did this old white guy just say Tesla needs more diversity? Why doesnt he quit and give his job to a minority?

@henryslatt9041

17 күн бұрын

What contract? The one the judge said was invalid? Please read a book

@missourimanful

17 күн бұрын

@@henryslatt9041- Totally disagree with you. It was agreed by the Board. Who is some judge to say it’s not a valid contract.

Why don’t they ask him that it was agreed upon before. Why did they agree then

@markthomas7279

18 күн бұрын

In fairness this particular firm did not. But thats not the point. Shareholders validated the deal with a huge majority in 2018.Thats the commitment that now should be honoured.

@syspowertools3372

18 күн бұрын

In more fairness, the majority of investors whose money they hold, think Elon deserves the package.

@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn

14 күн бұрын

@@syspowertools3372 I very much doubt there are real investors behind these gigantic funds. They say it's pensions and investors but every year the banks print trillions of dollars of new money through quantitative easing. Where does all that money go, ultimately? I strongly suspect all these trillion dollar funds are made up mostly of funny money created by the printing spree of the last 30 years.

This guy is everything that is wrong with big money Wall Street We stand with Elon

@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl

18 күн бұрын

Elon ist a criminal!

@slackbomb

18 күн бұрын

Who is we? You and all your Tesla bros that bought the top?

@shdmd2118

18 күн бұрын

@@slackbomb Biden commie?

@syspowertools3372

18 күн бұрын

I bought in 2016 at $13/ split adjusted. Elon earned it and who cares about what you think "the top" is. Tesla isn't even close to what it'll be if Elon Stays another 10 years. Take your 2c and short the stock, no balls.

@shdmd2118

18 күн бұрын

@@syspowertools3372 lol don’t respond to the idiots, they all think Biden still has a working brain still lol

Without Elon, Tesla is hardly a 10B company.

@importon

18 күн бұрын

Not rewarding a part time ceo who tanks the stock and brand to buy twitter in an emotional fit. he's good on wealth for many lifetimes already.

@syedarmaghanhassan4652

18 күн бұрын

That is exactly the point.. TESLA IS HIGHLY OVER-VALUED

@andynak7672

18 күн бұрын

Highly overvalued. Elmo-stans dont get it.

@markthomas7279

18 күн бұрын

​@@importonMeritocracy must prevail. I reject your tired jealousy. He stated what he would do then he went and did it. The time to reject the deal was 2018. It will be interesting to see how his future deal is constructed!

@markthomas7279

18 күн бұрын

​@@syedarmaghanhassan4652The stock market has a pretty good history of valuing stocks over the long run. There was a bubble in 2020 when Biden pumped so much free money into the economy. That was then this is now. You are ignoring future values. You just cannot do that with a growth company.

They had a contract, Elon did everything he was supposed to do. Coming after the fact to change the terms is crazy.

This guy should sell all his shares.

@draxdred

18 күн бұрын

This!💯

@h.nguyen4193

17 күн бұрын

yes he should and he'll have nothing left but a hand out from the chinese. musk fanboy delusional.

@ironmikehallowween

17 күн бұрын

Probably has like 10 shares too

@BranislavB-hx9zy

16 күн бұрын

Nope! He invest because Tesla can be good when problem number one is gone! South African Elon can move to his friends in Russia and China, which he likes better than the USA!

@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn

14 күн бұрын

He has no shares, he is playing monopoly with other people's money. Pension fund... Also I have a feeling most of the money these parasites throw around aren't in fact pensions. It's just called that to hide the fact they use the money banks print through quantitative easing to acquire and control as much of the economy as possible.

Not sure which car can drive itself with a software thats one of the most advanced, makes energy storage devices, energy harvestors, develops robots, is redefining the idea of mobility, energy and automation... meanwhile a guy in a suit - "Tesla is a car company"

The pay package was already agreed on…years ago. We voted for it. It passed. He surpassed the benchmarks. A deal’s a deal. This is the sort of guy who eats at a restaurant and then leaves before the check comes.

It's a technology company, not just a car manufacturer. They created the factory that builds the car, with infinitely scalable underlying software. Cars, Optimus, and FSD are all just applications. You were right on target as a venture investor, but you got too cocky once your investment paid off and forgot what you had invested in. I voted for elons pay with my 200 shares.

I feel sorry for all his pension clients, they will not see a red cent.

Chris states Tesla has a 60 PE ratio and Nvidia has a 40 PE ratio but the actual is Tesla is 45 PE ratio and Nvidia is 72 PE ratio? How can a CFO of a pension company be so off on what the PE ratios are? Of course this TTM but looking ahead Tesla earnings will probably start increasing again.

@VTShaggy

18 күн бұрын

He's probably quoting forward PE, which would make those numbers about right.

@PAULGMSTEVER

17 күн бұрын

@@VTShaggy So you are thinking that Chris expects Tesla's profitability will drop about 25% from current levels thus he is expecting the price to drop but he states no intention to sell. Interesting position for a fund manger to hold a equity to loose value or is this just an argument to support not voting yes to the pay package?

@VTShaggy

17 күн бұрын

@@PAULGMSTEVER correct. The outlook for short term profitability is not good at Tesla. 25% reduction from the TTM is reasonable. A long term investor would not necessarily sell based on short term profitability.

@jelmerdevries7827

17 күн бұрын

We can only speculate, but the 45pe you find on yahoo finance is not an accurate reflection of what's going on. That's gaap, non-gaap is around 62, and more reliable

Why are you invested if it's so bad ???

Can we send this guy to Mars?

@Jorge-ue9dz

16 күн бұрын

Sorry , the Martians have a strict "no morons allowed" policy and they won't let him come😂

Did he vote against in 2018?

@sriharsha3882

18 күн бұрын

Yes. So did Norwegian Sovereign Funds.

@igorigor1496

17 күн бұрын

​@@sriharsha3882then if they don't like how Elon is managing tesla they should sell ther shears...if he is so terrible why he holds and don't sell.. Its because Elons is doing great with tesla....

It's not just a car company!!!

I don't think he knows what they are invested in. SAD

Teanslation: Because we have no honour and consider welching a deal is OK as long as you can!!!

This is how jealousy looks like. Elon must get paid.

@h.nguyen4193

17 күн бұрын

when buyers get their cars 2 years later. hahaha musk fanboy....

@thomasholm4338

17 күн бұрын

This what jealousy looks like. Not how. Fanboy. ..I..

@BranislavB-hx9zy

16 күн бұрын

Nope! Tesla can be good when problem number one is gone! South African Elon can move to his friends in Russia and China, which he likes better than the USA!

@williamlyons3947

13 күн бұрын

At any company, if some manager gets billions in pay package but employees have to "work for free" because company won't pay all of the required overtime, there is a big problem.

Teslees, do remember to vote for the pay package and do press confirm and do submit before June 12th 2024 11:59 PM Eastern Time. I went back to the voting page and found that I didn't confirm and submit which could originally resulted in my shares vote invalid !

If you will recall, shortly before the DE court recinded the compensation package, Elon asked the BoD for another Compensation package to the tune of $84 BILLION. If investors approve the package that's currently up for a vote, Elon will follow up with a request for another one.

look at the 10 year return on Tesla over GM and Ford.

@themidgetsman

18 күн бұрын

Stock returns or actual profits?

Pay Elon twice the highest CEO salary ever. That would be fair.

@markthomas7279

18 күн бұрын

Nope. Pay the deal as written and agreed.

If the pay package dispute leads Musk to leave Tesla, it could be as bad for Tesla as Steve Jobs' departure was for Apple (which eventually has to bring Jobs back).

From $37K to $65K that's the minimum range of profit return every month I think it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.

@DavidDorrell

18 күн бұрын

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@RichardThomas-pr5bs

18 күн бұрын

I'm a long term investor, I withdrew my profits of £61,000 during the Christmas period last year

@ShahbazAhmed-jc5sn

18 күн бұрын

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@DavidDorrell

18 күн бұрын

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@DavidDorrell

18 күн бұрын

+1979

Why agree to the package in the first place? It doesn't seem fair to change the terms of the contract halfway.

If the pay package is bad for the company, why did the stock go down when it was denied and why did it go up when it was approved

Chris Ailman is retiring June 30th 2024, it absurd he’s giving his opinion. Great job cnbc exposing the talking out of both sides of his mouth.

@uyesatoron

15 күн бұрын

You are not kidding! He will be a sub in the LA Unified SD...haha...or a standup comedian!

The irony is, the compensation package is actually tied to Tesla and stock performance. Chris conveniently ignores that fact that this is not a cash payment, it is in fact shares. Those shares were reserved in 2018 and only went up if the company and stock did well. In addition, those shares, which are reserved at 2.3 billion could only be allocated when certain milestones were met. It's everything, Chris in this interview is asking for. He's either ignorant or misleading people

If it wasn't for tesla who would buy these outrageous nVidia chips besides facebook?

I assume the decision is 100% political. Teacher unions don't want to support Elon Musk because he demands accountability among our teachers.

@h.nguyen4193

17 күн бұрын

lol like he promise a car and 2 years later no car. musk fanboy delusional.

@Brad-L

17 күн бұрын

@@h.nguyen4193 Tesla has made almost 6,000,000 cars.

So where will all this money be coming from? The stock value will take a huge dive

It's not Pay, It's stock options.

If they don't pay him he will pause the ai 😂 better sell the stock

You were an early investor. So you must've voted for this compensation package when it was negotiated in 2018. What's the issue now?

@BAINES03

18 күн бұрын

He literally said he voted against it then.

@slackbomb

18 күн бұрын

These people don’t actually watch video unless it’s a click bait title they like not very high IQ people if they even are real people

Disgusting

Tesla without Elon is a sell.

@benlai7027

18 күн бұрын

Sell immediately on 6.17

We invested in the year 2000 that can’t be right

"they don't make AI chips"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 tell me you don't understand an investment without telling me you don't understand an investment

@ltc490

18 күн бұрын

Imagine being an employee of this place and seeing the boss say this on tv. Guy is clearly retired and just soaking free money. Laughable

@slackbomb

18 күн бұрын

@@ltc490imagine actually being employed

Take this guy to court, Elon.

It’s a compensation package, not a pay package. Musk does not get one penny of money from Tesla. Instead, when he exercises his options in the future, he will be required to pay Tesla a large sum of money to do so. That is a win, win, win for the Elon Musk, and Tesla, and each shareholder. As for the original compensation package, Elon Musk met every metric set forth to earn those stock options , and in the process made his shareholders huge amounts of money. He had a contract, and he deserved to get compensated per that contract.

Tesla is more than a car company. Please educate yourself

This guy has made a lot of great points. Make your money on capital gains. That’s the way to go.

People are losing credibility for few bucks..

Funny how the lawsuit is about the board not being independent, as they claimed during proposal, yet this guy is complaining about the value of the compensation. You would think he would have mentioned the lack of transparency, yet he’s just upset the pay package is 1/6 of how much he manages. Rich people hate when other people make money.

So…they are no longer investors?

If he think it is a car company, why would he invest a car company with 600 billions market cap?

@themidgetsman

18 күн бұрын

He invested at a lower valuation.

i would like to know why he disagree with the package. all i know is ridiculous pay package but he didn’t everyone why?? so at least retail investors could say “hmm.. he might have a point.” there’s probably a catch on the pay package that people don’t know about. 🤔

How about don’t pay that guy salary by the end of the week to see how he feels!

Outright disparage of a company that you supposedly have vested interest in ??

smart man. no bs and just straight up facts

That guy is investor in Tesla from 2020 and I am from 2014 and I remember that deal with Elon so it’s old investors against new investors. Hopefully Elon will get 25%

Just a car company........ Optimus? Energy? FSD? Dojo?

I would love to see all these old/early investors start by saying what their vote was back in 2018 when they agreed that if Elon accomplished X,Y, and Z then 56B would be his paycheck. Guys like this one are not in the "man of his word" club.

He claims in interviews that he's not even that interested in money... . Meanwhile, that pay package would be enough to cancel the entire national debt of Angola for example, and have enough left over to install a bunch of high speed rail lines. This sum of money to a single person is obscene.

@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn

14 күн бұрын

Some people, who ain't you, decided to give some of their money to some dude, who ain't you. Who the hell asked your opinion on the matter?

@dna9838

14 күн бұрын

@@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn it's called having a stake in society and worried for the future of less fortunate fellow human beings. You can close your mind and ears and eyes to problems, they will be opened eventually, by revolution if nothing else

@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn

14 күн бұрын

@@dna9838 Your weak pampered ass can't handle it if the Starbucks guy puts real milk in your soy latte. I'm not the least bit worried about your "revolution".

Fly to Mars ~ Male Karen

58B dollars? He doesn’t deserve that sorry. Who the hell does he think he is? If he’s going to get that money how is that fair for the entire good majority of world that doesn’t have two nickels to rub together. He better donate. But I doubt it!!

I wish I had a minute to just roast this guy, really getting annoyed with CNBC bringing on nothing but people who are spreading garbage about this package to get shareholders to vote no. CNBC now I feel more and more confident CNBC is in on this, why not bring on a retail shareholder on to totally rip this dude to shreds

100% Agree with the guy

It was a contract which he fulfilled. Time to pay!

@almac9203

18 күн бұрын

The judge said the deal was invalid. Saved everyone $56 Billion. Electric Jesus doesn't need the money.

It’s a Really BAD idea to vote against this package IMO.

Insane demand! 56 million is more then enough for Mr Musk!

@_diogenes1

18 күн бұрын

Not a demand - it was a contract agreement that everyone thought he would never accomplish.

@slackbomb

18 күн бұрын

Billion

Here's the thing: you folks say this is for Elon's 2018 achievements, why didn't he asked for it in 2019, 2020, 2021, hell even 2022, but only bring this up in 2024? Please help me to understand.

@mitchdavis8687

18 күн бұрын

He already had the deal in place.

It is 8 years of salary

This guy needs to go

One day everyone will watch their own footage of them dooming themselves. 😶‍🌫

Well good for this guy from the start he made clear why and it’s fair BUT IMO pay the guy that the agreement was agree on by 73% vote

This CNBC interviewer and guest is rotten to the core. 😂😂😂

This guy is like the villainous father from Elf.

So the man speaking what has he achieved in his life

How on earth is this guy managing anyone’s money? What “long term view”? Ya right. How is he long and calling it just a car company? This is one of the worst takes I’ve seen on Tesla in a long time

The only stock investor thinks the company he owns is overpriced.I don't understand him.

All these people want you to sell your shares so they can buy them up and then you end up chasing over +$500 price target by end of this year/next year, be smart and the more they talk, the more you buy.

Professionals like you... What have you ever run ??? Except your mouth..

@3:32, "Take some advice from Warren Buffet make your money in capital gains, not in salary." The Tesla deal in question isn't about salary. It's about options. Those options from that deal have a low strike price. Elon can convert the options to shares, pay tax on the strike price and then hold the stock for 12 months and get capital gains. How would Mr. Ailman as CIO like it if he hit all the bogeys that CalSTRS put in front of him and then they decided not to pay him?

@slackbomb

18 күн бұрын

The point he was making was that Elon should get paid and buy shares like everyone else

Elon made EVERY metric asked of him. Why would you deny him what he is due ??????

If this guy thinks Tesla is overvalued, then why hasn’t CalSTRS rebalance their portfolio and exit their TSLA position? Talking out of both sides of his mouth if he votes No and still holds the stock.

This guy should return his share at the price before 2018.

Norway wealth fund to vote against Musk's $56 billion Tesla pay package! Norway's wealth fund, which owns 1.5% of all the world's listed stocks, also in 2022 backed a shareholder proposal calling on Tesla to adopt a policy of respecting labour rights such as freedom of association and collective bargaining.

Pay the man

this guy is a major clown

The man gets up in the morning and eats mushrooms van has to take ketamine to go to sleep I will invest in mushrooms if he gets the money

They should be sued and forced to sell all share back to Tesla at 2018 prices. A deal is a deal, GFY

Did we understand what this guy said???

140 people can do what Elon does Not even countries

just sell TSLA shares if you are really that against Elon. Seriously, no point kept criticising and voting against the pay package when you still hold the shares.

An investor that sounds like a short seller what is going on here?