It is great to see EV trip planning done like this, with conservative estimates of energy consumption. That way you are usually pleasantly surprised when you can drive faster as your estimated SOC at arrival goes up. Planning for success with a reasonable reserve energy at arrival, vs. for a nail-biter video that generates clicks, is the way to do it right. It is a pleasure to watch Transport Evolved to do it right.

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

You may not like episode 2 and 3, which, while we'd planned for an easier time, were far from it! - Nikki.

@skyemalcolm

Жыл бұрын

@@transportevolved I’m eager to see how you’ll manage Wyoming which is a bit of a CCS black hole.

Interesting video, your vehicle did quite well by you using some common sense. In years past I did quite a bit of towing with a powerful Ford wagon and camping trailer, the vehicle could easily tow at posted speeds but the effect on fuel economy was substantial. By reducing speed to about 55 MPH the savings were on the order of 35% compared to driving 70 MPH. Yes it took a bit more to to get to destinations but it was not overly annoying, the more relaxed pace made driving easier and less fatiguing and required fewer stops. The reduction of fuel stops almost made up the speed differential when it was all said and done. Have a safe and fun trip and thank you for sharing your experiences.

@rp9674

Жыл бұрын

Great perspective!

Excellent video about traveling and towing in a F150 Lightning!

We NEED pull-through DCFC stations if EV pickups and SUVs are actually going to become a thing.

@zapfanzapfan

Жыл бұрын

This!

Courageous girl doing challenging things, as usual. Great video, and keep'em coming!

How many times did you look in the mirror and instinct made you think "dude, stop tailgating!"? 😄

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

A LOT - Nikki.

@rideshareroadwarriorrick

Жыл бұрын

My reaction exactly when I saw the Subaru 🤣 in the video 📸

Great work! This is how to do an EV review: a real world road trip and put it though what life throws at it. At the end, could you give a summary of the charging cost and distance? How long did you have to wait at each charge stop and how often? What features of the truck surprised you the most that everyday driving didn’t really show off (ie how easy was it to hitch the trailer, seat comfort, how well the cabin kept temperature, etc..)

@Hans-gb4mv

Жыл бұрын

I think Alex on Autos is also doing a great job. Especially now with his comparisons between the F150 and the R1T

“We already boiled a kettle by plugging it into the truck…” has to be the most hybrid British American statement in history 😂

@Robert-cu9bm

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if they did it the American way and took a microwave with them. 😂

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@Robert-cu9bm They make little electric kettles that are a really good deal to boil a few cups of water. Somewhere here, I have a one cup filter coffee maker that sits on top of a cup. You put the grounds in pour in boiling water and wait a bit and you have coffee. I used to take it with me on road trips because I could use it to get a cup of coffee with my lunch sandwiches in a road side park.

@Robert-cu9bm

Жыл бұрын

@@kensmith5694 It was sort of a joke mate as Americans don't have kettles as standard like the UK. From what I've seen they either boil a pot on the stove or put it in the microwave.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@Robert-cu9bm I am in the US and have a kettle that I have used this month.

Im not even a truck "fan" but I found myself grinning like an idiot throughout this video. The fact that you are still absolutely in love with this truck doing one of the most miserable things there is to do in a truck is just really encouraging. And 1.7 kW-per-mile... TOWING??? This shows the genius of Ford advertising the EPA range and efficiency based on a fully loaded truck. Its getting even better efficiecy towing a decent sized load than its quoted EPA numbers. Brilliant. FYI: all of the ads on this video were for the F150 Lightning, or Fords training program for its new service centers. Ford actually using their advertising dollars SMARTLY.

Awesome Job! So many towing reviews want to go 75 mph and then complain about the vehicle’s inability to tow. When it’s not the towing that EV’s struggle with. Its wind resistance which increases exponentially as we go faster. You saw the results of going slower! Thanks for being the the first smart person to do an EV towing review!

@Robert-cu9bm

Жыл бұрын

What speed does the average person drive when towing?. Even Nikki had to point out that she wasn't holding people up at 50mph, so from that statement it seems average towing speeds are higher.

@brucec954

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, most small trailers, especially rentals, have small diameter wheels and are not rated to go over 60 mph. In California, they have speed limit signs saying 55 mph max for vehicles towing. So doing 50 - 55 mph not really much slower than what you should be driving. Of course, you see plenty of macho pickups driving much faster towing, but you also see a lot of trailers on the side of the road with blown out tires. I passed an accident scene the other day in the boonies that had a pickup & trailer that were both on their side from a tire blowing out, the trailer swerving, flipping the pickup and trailer. Must have been a fun ride.

@michaelsmithers4900

Жыл бұрын

@@Robert-cu9bm yeah 50-60 seems reasonable to me. For years I’ve been watching EVs towing being reviewed at 70-80mph and reviewers complaining about decreased range. Sadly they fail to grasp the physics of towing a square box at high speeds, let alone the dangers

@Robert-cu9bm

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelsmithers4900 Reasonable to you, but what does the average person drive at? What's reasonable to one person is not to another.

@michaelsmithers4900

Жыл бұрын

@@Robert-cu9bm two points. One as noted above by others many small trailers are only rated to 50-60mph. Two and the reason for my original post is that slowing down from 70-80mph greatly impacts range. If this means more charging stops then going faster could slow your progress

From middle aged heterosexual male - Kudos for you for for not funding dark ages states. Respect!

I’ve driven this route a half dozen times decades ago and it’s wonderful to experience it again, vicariously. Back in the day I had breakdowns driving a 1971 Volvo 145. Oddly I also made the trip once from Portland to Boulder towing my Kawasaki EX500 motorcycle on a little 4x8 trailer with a 1986 Isuzu I-Mark, which was such a bad tow vehicle that I had to pull over and stop halfway up that big hill on I-84 to let the poor little engine cool down. After that I drove with the windows open and the heat blowing just to dump heat from the engine and keep temps down even though it was late spring and I’d have preferred cool air (my memory is fuzzy but I’m pretty sure that car didn’t have AC 😂). Seeing how wonderful Adera Tull is by comparison to my admittedly ancient towing experience shows what an amazingly competent machine it is. It’s truly staggering the amount of progress made and I look forward to watching this series! Oh and thank you for standing by your convictions.

452 miles in a day is not bad at all. I usually start out around 500 miles a day, and subsequent days drop as a I get bored and explore more, stop and read, etc. And that is in a gas truck. So I can live with that, and can't wait till my Lightning comes in October. Thanks for another useful video!

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

On trips I would do about 600 miles in a day. My method was to get up in the morning early and drive until breakfast time. This got me a good ways down the road before the traffic got heavy. It didn't work for driving east with a clear sky. Sunrise is hard on the eyes.

I grew up in Herniation OR and those hills in the heat will torture any coiling system but your video showed me a snapshot of home I haven't seen in more than 10 years

It’s awesome to see you are soo happy with the truck

I’m really looking forward to this long distance EV tow-A-poloosa! May I suggest repeating this test in a Tesla Cybertruck and or Rivian R1 T? Could this become the measure by which all EV trucks are tested??

@Gabriankle

Жыл бұрын

This is perfect. First of anyone. Also, the money saved towing a vehicle with electric should make long distance buying much easier.

@patreekotime4578

Жыл бұрын

By the time the Cybertruck comes out Ford will be on version 2.0 of the F150 so it would need retesting in a new truck.

@Robert-cu9bm

Жыл бұрын

@@patreekotime4578 Lol, I think you mistakenly put a dot in the middle of your version number.

@copaloadofthis

Жыл бұрын

@@Robert-cu9bm 😂

@xsterawesome

Жыл бұрын

I'm down, my Lightning's supposed to be delivered in September, an‍d I have a reservation for a cyber truck so I'll probably get one of those around 2035, subscribe and stay tuned!

Great video! Great Info and what a fun trip. Look forward to seeing the rest of the trip!

Oh my goodness, I saw your truck charging in mountain home and thought "I wonder whose that is."

Great video.

Just love your channel. Even though I'm a newbie. My partner and I are looking into the Kona EV. We live in Bedford Texas.

I love this video. So informative. Thx

Thanks for the impressive, real world data

Thanks for the vid, I'm enjoying watching your trip

Since the car you're towing is so small, it really helps since a lot of it is in the truck's draft area. Aero makes the biggest difference in highway range.

Sounds like a fun and informative trip

Loved it!

Great video. It’s great to see EVs break into more utilitarian vehicles.

Looks very aerodynamic indeed. Subaru looks like it is tailgating. Still the truck has to pull its weight uphill. Not entirely "useless" after all. Nikki looks sooooo happy of the performance! 38.8kwh/100km is very decent. 38.8kwh/100km.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

Remember that on the down hill, the Subaru's weight is pushing the truck a bit.

I've always wondered if other Lightening tow tests drove unreasonably fast. Of course that little Subaru - trailer and all- just sits in the wind shadow of the Ford.

@francesconicoletti2547

Жыл бұрын

The moon would sit in the wind shadow of a Ford 150. I suppose Nikki could do the entire thing again with something in proportion to the truck, say a four cabin diesel yacht.

@thomasreedy4751

Жыл бұрын

@@francesconicoletti2547 How about an electric yacht instead :-)

@ejd1984

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking. Most likely the Lighting software had thought the trailer would be a standard box, and that's where the low estimate first came from. With the Subaru be a lot more aerodynamic than a box, that is where the surprising efficiency came from. I believe Ford said that the software would constantly be updated from real-world experiences. Hopefully this road trip lessons got uploaded.

@xsterawesome

Жыл бұрын

For real, a lot of states have laws against towing that fast in the first place, and most of the people I know with experience towing won't go over about 55, that being said I'm guessing how heavy the F-150 Lightning is gives people extra confidence to go faster in the first place. Either way look at the big rigs around you you should be doing the speed they're doing I guarantee they have more experience than you do probably, and a better tow rig. And then there's always someone popping up with a made-up scenario like "I pull my 10,000 lb 53 ft camper across the country uphill both ways, with an 85 mile an hour headwind, Non-Stop without sleep 15 times a year this truck won't work for anybody in America".

@fjalics

Жыл бұрын

@@xsterawesome I recently watched the TFL trip to Alaska. If you put a big box on it, and drive fast, it burns through the juice. Slow down, and it does much better. This video tells me a whole lot of people will be able to drag their boat to a nearby lake. Also, big boat launches should get chargers. These trucks seem very stable and very powerful, so while I have no doubt a diesel with giant fuel tanks can go farther, for a shorter haul, these Lightnings will be fantastic.

Oh my god a reality TV show based in reality no special affects no setup’s just reality thank you love the setup

Awesome! Love the road trip videos

Great video, can't wait for part 2! Also, luckily I checked the description because I thought you named your truck "Our Dear Atal" not "Adira Tal", which makes more sense now. Lol.

That was so interesting. I would never have any need for a truck (especially on UK tiny country lanes), but it was just fascination to what you on your trip. 👏🏻🤓

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

Someone, no doubt, will make or already makes a narrow pickup or van for the UK market. If not, it seems a market missed. People in the UK need to take stuff from here to there.

As others have said, aerodynamics play a substantially bigger role in efficiency than weight. Weight only matters when facing gradients or stop/go. You’ll lose some efficiency from the additional tires and bearings dragging the truck down too, but a relatively small amount compared to aero drag. A flat car trailer with a pretty small car doesn’t present that much aero drag (until it gets windy). I’m familiar with that section of I84 (just drove it last winter in my Bolt, properly equipped with Nordic winter tires, then again this spring in my former Model 3) and aside from one big climb, it’s relatively flat by PNW standards. I’m glad you are doing this test because the vast majority of “towing tests” that I’ve seen with EV trucks are by people who are unapologetically biased against EVs, and even though they practically never need to tow long distances, they come up with some absurd test to attempt to show that “EV trucks just don’t work!” I know this probably isn’t the ideal place to ask this, but are you all going to have a booth at Fully Charged or just wandering around doing coverage?

Love this

That sounds about right for a Tesla destination charger. Tesla destination chargers support some form of charge sharing. Any place that has more then one likely uses charge sharing. I have seen Tesla destination chargers with as little 3K because the owner of the restaurant decided to share 3 chargers on one circuit. My guess is that hotel might be sharing 64 usable amps between two connectors.

Great road trip! I regularly travel an 800km (500m) return trip towing a tandem trailer. I find that if I don’t push the throttle and keep below 100km/hr my fuel economy is not much worse than when not towing. This comes down to wind resistance. To ‘hypermile’ 80km/hr (50mph) seems to be the magic speed. Just got to get the charging network up to speed (pardon the pun). I salute you guys for your stance against state-sanctioned intolerance.

Really nicely done photography the editing the presenting very nicely done congratulations

Woo hooo! Excited you’re visiting us!

I recognize those hills/mountains only from watching YT videos of truckers showing the drama. Made me smile :) Hopefully the truck stalled on the side is able to get help. Also, I love that you limited spending in anti-autonomy/anti-LGBTQ+ states. I also do this for TX, OK, MO, & FL. The whole south east of the country is probably going to be off-limits to me in the near future, and this breaks my heart. But as a woman & an ally, I am focusing on discovering more of the supportive states. 🥰 Lastly, I will say that this trip looks intimidating to a new EV traveler. Y'all killed it, but you had a lot of advantages by knowing the "lay of the land" ahead of time. Route planning is quite necessary for now...

@Nphen

Жыл бұрын

Michigan has legal rights for women, legal cannabis (rec & med) and lots of scenic places. I've lived in the state my whole life, over 30 years, without going to Mackinac Island, and finally made it this summer, with my ebike. Let me say I am glad I had the motor on the bike for the hills! It's amazing to be in a place where cars are banned. You can ride a tour boat through the Soo Locks, just 45 minutes away. Traverse City is a few hours the other way. If you want to be near more people, Detroit, Lansing, and Grand Rapids all have viable downtowns with bike trails nearby.

I have to say, I'm in the market for a pick-up to replace my old ICE Mazda, and have kinda debated wether I wanted to go electric or not. This video proved to me that an EV truck could handle long trips while hauling, which was a major question I had about getting an EV pickup. So, should Chevy hurry up with that EV Silverado, I think that'll be my next vehicle, and you helped make that happen!

@Nphen

Жыл бұрын

Keep an eye on the order status for the E-Silverado. I don't know how long the current waitlist is, probably a year, starting production in 2024. Even the long-delayed Cybertruck is expected in 11 months. You could always finance a Rivian in the meantime and then sell it for full price when your Silverado is ready. There's going to be an EV shortage until 2025 at least. People are quitting gas more quickly than companies are ready to build EV's!

I use a Tesla tap mini for destination charging. Worth every penny

I love your licence plate!

what is the ratio of drive time to charge time? does charge time double the drive time total? what if you were in a hurry or being being paid by the mile. would i make any money? shows me it would work for people not in any sort of a hurry but not for people that they just need to get there.

Wish i ordered one when announced

Hi Nikki. Great video! 2 questions... Q1 - Re. the charging at the last stop. If the charger at the hotel does 3kw charge rate, how does the Tesla dest charger do any more? Where does the Tesla get the extra power to charge at 6kw? Does it plug into a different power source? Q2 - Re. the towing efficiency. It's great to see the F150 did better than expected when towing this load. Have you towed other loads with this vehicle? Would you consider, over time, putting together a comparison of it towing different shape and weight trailers? The car might have been an unusually aerodynamic load? A big boxy trailer might be different??? Thanks again. Safe travels.

Great vid, Niks! Interested to see CO2 (eq) for lightning vs ICE 150 -

Could you share a link to purchase the Tesla adapter please? The one on 14:21 I'm always hesitating on buying those cause I didn't think they'd work.

Road Trip!

As a tip, when you are comparing numbers to numbers, just pop a graphic of those numbers over top of whatever shot you come up with. Number jargon can get confusing to viewers. Cheers! Dave

Thank you for sharing. What is the box and tongue weight? Any porpoising with the load? Any swaying? How did you set the gain on the trailer brakes? I have an F150 ICE, had to add air bags for pulling my 9K lb trailer.

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

We didn't note the tongue weight, but we'd estimate the total trailer+ load to be 5,000 pounds. As it was a rental trailer there really wasn't a lot. of modification we could do there (the car had to be forward far enough to strap down). No swaying and no purposing - and the trailer was non-braked other than the emergency brake! - Nikki.

@sherpa972

Жыл бұрын

@@transportevolved I read somewhere the Lightning had a calibrated scale in the bed to measure the weight of your load, could be wrong. Thanks.

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

@@sherpa972 You're right - but we honestly forgot!

When you have a DC charger as a destination. Does the truck condition the battery for the DC fast charging like a Tesla will?

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

IIRC, the software does that if the stop to charge is set by the driver.

How many times did you stop to charge?

I've noticed that about two thirds of Electrify America stations won't charge my Bolt, for no obvious reason. Just fails when it tries to start the charge and reports an error. Other cars work fine in the same chargers.

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

Have you tried gently supporting the charging plug while it initializes and starts charging. The charging inlet on the Bolt used to be a bit too flexible and the weight of the cable would often cause charging errors... We've not tried the new Bolt to see if this is still a problem tho'. There's a 3d printable aftermarket part that resolves this problem if that does work for you. ^Kate

@tserica

Жыл бұрын

@@transportevolved I've tried that. It works very occasionally. My Bolt is an original 2017, so if they've fixed it somehow, it won't help me. But I've been frustrated with Electrify America having this problem. Do you happen to know how I might find this printed part? I probably can find a way to print it.

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

www.thingiverse.com/thing:3862271 It's here :)

I don't know if Nikki has towed a similar load with a gas F150 or 1500 to compare. I've towed a similar car on that exact same U-haul trailer with a 5.7L 1500. I can tell you firsthand going uphill on the freeway through the mountains, you aren't doing >55mph because the truck won't do it, not enough horsepower. Only thing to do is go 45-50 in the right lane and keep pace with the big rigs. It would also be nice to know if she had any issues with braking, trailer sway, or a light front end causing steering issues. That U-haul trailer with surge brakes doesn't provide much braking assist and puts a lot of weight on the tow hitch. I've seen some other videos comparing the Lightning towing but they always compare to a F250 or F350 diesel, not a F150.

How much did regen factor in this trip?

Yeah, weight doesn't matter that much, it's the air resistance that does, so towing a caravan or horse box would shorten the range quite a bit more, maybe down to the beginning estimate.

It seems that F150 is as aerodynamic as a brick. That would explain why the trailer is not reducing the range as much as would be expected. Mass itself makes quite a little more consumption, aerodynamics is the main thing and trailer follows so close behind the truck that it is almost completely inside the turbulence that the truck makes. IMO

Keep TOWING...

The Subaru is small enough to duck behind the truck not affecting drag too much. Out of Spec motoring did a test with a water tank in the back also almost no drag change but max GVW. It had almost no impact on Range. Weight is not a huge factor on Range.

Interesting real life test.

This comment is just to say hi to youtube algorithms. otherwise keep up the good work.

Kempower will arive in US soon lets hope they can sort things out and EA and others can start to chage those faullty chargers to kempowers sattelites instead :D

So glad you did it! Usual intelligent analysis of the situation. Good to see the rather "mannered" delivery is gone this time. Now and again, I used to think the late Alan Whicker had taken control from beyond the grave.. Still love you :-) As we all do, of course. Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield Island - the next sketch for Monty Python? Hopefully not... all those Nikkis roaming around...

Interesting… that actually not far from the normal consumption of an Audi etron, but this is much bigger, powerful and with a trailer. I guess as so big, powerful, a low trailer (not a caravan) will have less impact.

My class C RV with an ICE engine averages 10 MPG at highway speed (60 mph) and when towing my Bolt I am still getting 9.8 or so. The major issue that affects my mileage while towing is the hills, not the the weight of the car and tow dolly. I just back off the speed a little going up and let her roll out on the downsides. Too bad the EV market has yet to hit the RV market in a big way. Like the F-150.

Did this f150 have towing package?

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

Yup! Max tow! - Nikki

a significant contributor to your low energy consumption is the low profile of what you are towing as well as your ideal driving style. way to go- keep e-haulin!

Love your "per-state" spending criteria. I will adopt that as well on future road trips. Rock on!

Critical EA stations are seemingly always down. They really don't wear well, and EA isn't exactly rushing to fix them. They quote part shortages, but 2 years into a broken DCFC stall I start to doubt it

I'd love to see what an aero cover would do to that efficiency.

Somebody needs to make a bed topper for the truck with solar panels on it. I estimate that that the panels could give you about 5 more miles of range for every sunny hour. On a lot of trips, that would be an extra 40 miles or so per day. While that may not seem like a lot the other use is the one I think can be more important. Imagine you use the truck to go camping or fishing for lets say 10 days to make my math easy. You drive to the lake in some remote spot, park. In 10 days of sitting the truck will get topped back up with some power taken to cook etc.

@rp9674

Жыл бұрын

I've been thinking about that too. Unfortunately you can't charge while driving, could charge a separate battery. Also for charging the vehicle you probably have to meet the minimum charge rate which may be 10 amps, 120vac? Seems possible for that amount of roof space. I wonder if it would be a aero disadvantage to go above and over the cab with solar, if you weren't hauling. Adjustable supports would be good to go below roof line, or above load.

@theairstig9164

Жыл бұрын

@@rp9674 bolt the panels on without plugging them in and go for a drive. I think the noise alone will put you off

@Nphen

Жыл бұрын

Doing boondocking without a trailer, would be smart to have more panels to unfold upon arrival, and a "house battery" that acts as a solar generator to plug the truck in at night. That way you could go on runs in the truck while the house battery recharges at base camp. This setup could be collapsed, with only enough panels to cover the truck bed plugged into the house battery while you drive. If you had them mounted correctly, the drag would be less than the range benefit. You'd still have to stop to recharge from the house battery, maxing out at 6.6 Kw if your system could output that much. So the system would be great for boondocking and good enough to slowly refill in an emergency (unexpected broken fast charger) on a road trip.

@rp9674

Жыл бұрын

@@theairstig9164 great point, if it makes noise it's probably adding drag. No better application would be a large flat roof like a van.

@kensmith5694

Жыл бұрын

@@theairstig9164 Only a bad design would make even the slightest noise. If it is making noise, it is making turbulent air flow and that is bad. I presumed that the design team would include at least one engineer.

Why don’t they build charging stations with drive through ability?

@rp9674

Жыл бұрын

Electric trucks didn't exist when most o of the charging stations were built.

@Robert-cu9bm

Жыл бұрын

@@rp9674 Towing did though.

Can you put the numbers in the comments pinned to the top. ?

The towing and transporting of this Subaru cost more than it was worth! should have junked it.

make a suggestion, back the truck into a parking space in a parking lot. its a lot easier to pull out of a parking space than to back out, as you really cant see traffic that might be coming or not

@kenmcclow8963

Жыл бұрын

They are a little limited because the charge port is near the front, so it needs to be close to the charger

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

Nikki here. When parking yes, I do back in. But charging stations kind of rule which way I go in and why ;)

That truck makes a lot of lumens.

If there were only a better charging network

Sorry, what is the Truck's name?

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

Adira Tal. We're big Star Trek nerds ;)

@jonathanamundsen6086

Жыл бұрын

@@transportevolved okay awesome thanks. I didn't get far with Discovery.

What a Hassel. Put a Coyote motor in it.

Thanks! Have a coffee on me.

Come on Cybertruck, ya gonna blow them all away & show them all how it's supposed to be done!

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

We're curious. What is it that you feel wasn't done right?

@willaerley7140

Жыл бұрын

@@transportevolved Ford’s charging route planner for one. Tesla’s supercharging network is also a big advantage, but that’s not really Ford’s fault. Cybertruck’s bullet proof glass might come in handy when driving through those Red states. I’m kidding. Sort of.

Sorry I will keep my 1992 F150 4.9L with dual tanks. The truck only cost me $200 and I get 700 miles between fill ups and only 5 minutes to refill. That 92 can pull anything, It has towed a 6000 lb trailer through West Virginia without any issues. The $79,000 I didn't spend on an EV will buy enough gasoline to last me the rest of my life. 😎👍

@transportevolved

Жыл бұрын

And help destroy the planet for everyone who comes after you... ^Kate

@DoWorkNP

Жыл бұрын

@@transportevolved I thought the manufacturing and mineral gathering process for these ev batteries was pretty harmful to the environment as well? Can't imagine what that will be like when millions and millions more of these evs are on the road.

@MatthewBerginGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@transportevolved Quit listening to the government bullshit. CO2 is the basic building block of all life on this planet. More is better. Example look up photosynthesis. The 60 ppm of increase in the CO2 level over the last 30 years has lead to a 15% greener planet.

This test really shows us that the aerodynamic nature of the trailer really matters. The car on the trailer is designed to be aerodynamic, and the flatbed itself has little wind resistance. I'd really like to see a tall square travel trailer vs an Airstream of the same weight, on the same route. Then 2 cars of similar weights. Perhaps on a flatbed like today a Jeep (tall square box) vs a heavier (but more aero) Tesla

@moony2703

Жыл бұрын

Also there are trailers with inbuilt batteries being designed now to help with towing, also who won’t want a battery in your camper which ideally also has solar panels on it? Which will absolutely change the game again when they go mainstream. Will be interesting to look forward to that in a few years time or whenever that happens.

The superchargering network is the biggest reason I’m getting the Cybertruck. 60k+ of long distance miles in my Teslas over the years and only once I waited 10 minutes for a charger and that’s even over multiple holiday weekend.

I'm looking forward to getting my first electric car going. It's a 2006 Miles ZX40. I bought it recently because it's the only electric car I can currently afford to own, but to me, any EV is better than no EV. If I can't get it going, I'll probably drop a 1970-vintage 413 cubic-inch Chrysler gasoline big-block into it.

Cool to watch the electric F-150 blow by those diesel semis going uphill and towing a car behind.

@christopherhicks5774

Жыл бұрын

That diesel weights 80,000lb.

3:00 Lovely, too few people do that! 👏Always have massive respect when you put your money where your mouth is, aka vote with your wallet. 🙇‍♂👍

Good to know range estimators / GOMs / panic generators - still suck in 2022. The vehicle knows where you are it knows the terrain, if it was open source, I'm sure it would be better, maybe there will be a phone app to rescue us. It's just math(s). This towing story starts out with the premise of - I want this to work, others start with a premise of - I want this to fail, I'll drive fast & not schedule intelligently to come to the desired conclusion of EVs don't work.

@kenmcclow8963

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A Better Route Planner aka ABRP will map the route and pick the most efficient charging stops including how long at each stop and how much each will cost. All you have to do is enter in which car and battery you have. I don’t know how well it would do with trailers since they are so variable. Plus it can’t predict the local wind, but otherwise seems pretty good. On my last trip, I got a 20 mile boost from an epic tailwind in Wyoming and a headwind in New Mexico made me return to the charger because I wasn’t going to make the next one. Luckily my car let me know in the first 15 minutes

I've seen people towing things with lots of drag. Maybe before too long they will start making cowls for camping trailers so that they can more easily be towed by EV trucks.

Always flap in the mirrors on the towed car.

Suggestion: cover the license plate or blur it before posting

The Daily drive is only 7kwh. A daily top up ezi pezi, and a full tank every day. No weekly drives to top up the fuel tank. Nobody topped up their fossil fueled vehicles daily at home with inflammable petroleum and for free. Every day a full range of fuel on board for free, 365 days a year, for decades. Petroleum is a strategic military reserve asset for war fighting and emergencies. Salute the flag every morning and know that no other country can sustain an attack on the USA.

Ford really needs to develop a battery/range extender. Plus sounds like a EV friendly cargo carrer should be developed.

i'll stick with my 2007 dakota, my v6 gets 400 miles a tank and toes a car trailer with 2 cars, $80,000 is enough for me to get gas for the rest of my life.

I can’t imagine anyone watching this video and still wanting an EV truck.

@kensmith5694

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I don't see why. Their use case is not the same as some other person's would be and the issues with chargers seem to be getting fixed now.

@robertnagy1902

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@@kensmith5694 possibly…still a ways to go for me, but I like the frunk!

Flame me if you like, but I'm completely in agreement to not spending dollars in anti-everyone else states. Also, with the hat you look fabulous driving a truck. Bonus!

It sucks that EA is the only fast game in town. I'm really beginning to despise our electric charging overlord and their rapidly degrading infrastructure.

@Nphen

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This is what Tesla fans are talking about with the reliability of Supercharger vs EA and the other charging networks. Things like no shade to cool the chargers and many not working. A lot of EV drivers are getting rude awakenings when they go to charge. I don't even have a Tesla, but I watch a lot of different channels who encounter real-world charging. I've literally never seen any YT video go to any EA and have every stall working. The opposite is more likely the case.

@proudvirginian

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@@Nphen Tesla had their growing pains too. They've just been in the game a lot longer. They have their issues, but have thousands more chargers, so a broken one or two at a station with ten chargers isn't as big a deal as two broken chargers out of four. And Tesla isn't known for their shady, comfy chargers either. And there are places in California where the wait to get on a charger is ridiculous because they've over sold the market to charge ratio by a lot. EA has that problem (because every other car manufacturer relies on them rather than starting they're own network -unlike Tesla) AND they're not keeping up with the fixes. If Gas stations started installing chargers and car manufacturers other than VW started helping with the system they're cars rely on most, it would get better so much quicker. It definitely sucks, but I'm not going back to an ICE vehicle and I'm definitely not getting a Tesla. I'll just bitch and moan and ride it out until the infrastructure catches up.

Too bad the air conditioner wasn't working....

@transportevolved

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...pardon?

Wow, declaring the residents of entire states as "morally worthless" based on political narratives. I thought Germany in 1930 to 45 taught us the dangers of doing that. MLK said we should judge people on whom they really are, not their outward appearance. Social Media learns the messages we want to hear and feeds us an echo chamber of "Us vs. Them" content.

@transportevolved

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She did not judge the residents as morally worthless. Their lawmakers? The racists, homophobes and transphobes?Them we do judge. ^Kate

@alsehl3609

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@@transportevolved When we are obsessed by "politicians" who appear to be acting unjustly or unfairly we are using them as parent symbols to illustrate our person experiences of childhood relationship trauma, in reality or as perceived by our child mind. Symbols are the language of the subconcous mind. Virtually all the political emotions expressed in the MEDIA on both sides is really people projecting their existential angst and shame from childhood onto larger world issues and personalities.