Herb Anderson's piece of the Chicago Pile

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*TIME INDEX BELOW* This video shows a "live block" from the first nuclear reactor, the "Chicago Pile" or CP-1, built in secrecy beneath the stands of Stagg Field at the University of Chicago in 1942. The block was owned as a commemorative item by physicist Herbert L. Anderson. It consists of a piece of graphite with holes milled for two pieces of uranium metal nuclear fuel. In narrating this video I mostly blather unscripted for almost half an hour (sorry!), but I do touch on the following points:
01:48 The uranium fuel emits some radiation, amounting to an external gamma exposure rate of about 7.4 mR / hour on contact with the artifact.
05:15 I show how uranium metal fuel is held in the much larger holes in the graphite that were milled to accommodate uranium oxide "pseudosphere" fuel elements.
06:02 I mention the various different types of graphite-fuel arrangements found in CP-1, owing to the different types of fuel.
06:20 The fuel elements have numbers stamped on them, the significance of which is unknown.
07:16 I take out one of the fuel elements and show how it is supported in the graphite. I question whether the acrylic spacers were original or were added later for display purposes.
09:05 I weigh the fuel element I have removed from the block.
10:09 I discuss the AGOT graphite in this block as well as the properties of the various types of graphite used to build CP-1.
12:18 The gamma radiation from this fuel is characteristic of fission products because this fuel has been exposed to reactor operation. We examine both a scintillation gamma spectrum and an HPGe gamma spectrum.
18:04 From the gamma spectra we can quantitatively estimate the burnup at about 200 kW-days per metric ton of uranium.
19:25 This burnup is only consistent with this fuel having been not only in CP-1, but also CP-2.
22:45 I very briefly discuss the life and work of Herb Anderson.
25:37 I discuss the origins of the uranium used in CP-1, virtually all of which came from the Shinkolobwe Mine in what was then the Belgian Congo.

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  • @toyplasticcello
    @toyplasticcello5 жыл бұрын

    Holy flipping cow, what an amazing item to get your hands on and test.

  • @spectrHz
    @spectrHz9 жыл бұрын

    This is a truly awesome piece of history and a wonderful item to see! Thank you for such a well done video of something you definitely don't see every day!

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier7 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best videos I've seen all year. This is a Smithsonian level artifact you have there. I mean, you realize what you have. I just hope you can find it a good home so that it doesn't get lost in the shuffle of history; buried as nuclear waste by some bureaucrat; or hidden in a private collection... Actually, does the Smithsonian already have one of these? If not then they should. I enjoyed your unscripted blather.

  • @ErikTheAndroid
    @ErikTheAndroidАй бұрын

    The genuinely interesting historical explanations interspersed with swearing about the camera and gear makes this thoroughly entertaining to watch.

  • @JustinAlexanderBell
    @JustinAlexanderBell9 жыл бұрын

    Incredible piece of history.

  • @cpunut
    @cpunut7 жыл бұрын

    Was great to see you last weekend and hold this amazing historical artifact which felt like almost 20 Lbs. Thanks for bringing!! Craig

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for coming to Richmond, and it was great to catch up.

  • @KarbineKyle
    @KarbineKyle9 жыл бұрын

    WOW! That's awesome! What an awesome piece of history! I love to study things like this. Thank you so much for sharing this video! Your videos are spectacular!

  • @bionerd23
    @bionerd239 жыл бұрын

    haha, "piece of shit" - nah, piece of awesome! that's one of the coolest artifacts one can possibly obtain imho. i'd go to the US just to see that thing for myself if i could afford the flight, but this video was almost as good. great explanations and calculations on how just how "spent" that fuel was. i just really hope this beauty ends up in a museum for public display rather than being taken to a waste disposal site in an action of panic as somebody alerted the authorities after seeing this video. not sure how likely that is, but the authorities in your country seem to be prone to overreactions lately... anyway, thanks for this great demonstration!

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Yes, the authorities here in the USA can overreact at times, but thankfully we have this thing called "The Second Amendment" which says that, since I satisfy the preconditions of being white and speaking English, they can have my nuclear material when they pry it from my cold, dead hands. I'd cite the text verbatim, but I lost my pocket Constitution a little while ago ;) Anyway, I am working with the National Nuclear Museum here in Albuquerque on a loan, and I would like to do that with any other museum that might be interested in an exhibit featuring it. If you come visit Albuquerque, I have a guest room and you'd be most welcome...lots of nuclear stuff in New Mexico!

  • @MacMiep

    @MacMiep

    9 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the first thing I wondered about when you showed the real fuel element was "Does he need license or something to own this?" Question: was that Uranium refined regarding it's ratio 235/238 or just standard ore?

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    MacMeep The licensing issue for this artifact is unresolved, but my state Bureau of Radiation Control has been made aware of everything I know about it, including the contents of this video, before I posted the video. The uranium used to make CP-1 fuel has the natural ratio of U-235:U-238.

  • @droznig
    @droznig9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this with us, very interesting and great array of information! Well done!

  • @SebastianStabinger
    @SebastianStabinger7 жыл бұрын

    Your videos preserve a part of the history of technology. I just want to thank you for that! :)

  • @bionerd23
    @bionerd239 жыл бұрын

    i just went to see some remains (two cubes) of hitler's uranium pile. (pic on twitter, video in a while) it never reached criticality, so you could easily use those cubes as paperweights. maybe you can find out where the rest of the 650+ cubes are? apparently, the americans took them with them, spoo. i want them back, so just tell them i am an ancestor of hitler and want my cubes back. :P

  • @hugeshows

    @hugeshows

    9 жыл бұрын

    bionerd23 Hah! As I watched this I thought "I wonder if Bionerd23 has seen this!" Of course you have, silly me!

  • @jasoncougar194

    @jasoncougar194

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yup no one wants to admit that Hitler's design is the safest lmao not a touch of radio activity.

  • @brshoggalyboogaly7237

    @brshoggalyboogaly7237

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol love it

  • @jurgenrumsfeld8825

    @jurgenrumsfeld8825

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jasoncougar194 So not only did Hitler fail at becoming an artist, he also failed at building a pile. A coke habit will do that I guess.

  • @chemistryscuriosities
    @chemistryscuriosities4 жыл бұрын

    What an amazing piece of history. Your very lucky to own such an important piece of our (nuclear)history. Thank you for sharing it with us.

  • @BerlietGBC
    @BerlietGBC4 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video, not only fascinating but an incredible piece of history Thank you

  • @Anti-proton
    @Anti-proton9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for including the spectrum!!! Where you see Cs137 from U235 fission, you find Sr90... I'd certainly wash my hands :) (actually, I would wear gloves, personally). You might be able to detect to Pu with an x-ray spectrometer either from daughters or using XRF. Do you get plenty of neutrons off of it? Is the fuel a problem to hold without gloves due to the metal metal toxicity (I know the radiation isn't an issue)?

  • @Observer_Effect
    @Observer_Effect11 ай бұрын

    Carl this is just an amazing piece of history!

  • @ebblue81
    @ebblue815 жыл бұрын

    Unbelievable, truly a priceless piece of history.

  • @KarbineKyle
    @KarbineKyle5 жыл бұрын

    I love dropping by to watch this video! This is absolutely incredible! I love nuclear science! I got into radioactivity about 10 years ago as a hobby, and I'm amazed at how little I knew back then, and how much more I will learn! I'd LOVE to own a piece like this! I do have a very large and beautiful cuprosklodowskite specimen from the Shinkolobwe mine, plus some very small cuprosklodowskite needles (for my microscope). It looks amazing under it! Also, it is quite hot compared to other uranium minerals I have! I can see why this uranium was mined there! This piece you have is just priceless! I know the most common Am-241 gamma-ray intensity (of many) is very easy to identify at 59.5 keV at about 36% intensity. The most common gamma intensity (of many) for Pu-239 would be hard to detect, at 51.6 keV. I believe its intensity is only about 0.027%. The X-rays are also pretty low in energy and intesity, however a little more intense than the gamma-rays. A low-energy HPGe spectrum (probably run for weeks) might detect it. I don't know. The fact that there's Cs-137, and that it also dominates the Pa-234m peak from that uranium is so fascinating! I could go on, but this is just so awesome! Thank you so much for sharing this!

  • @johnwebb4869
    @johnwebb48699 жыл бұрын

    My father was a few blocks away going to "Radio School" when the Stagg Field CP1 was first "lit up" - Very cool video, glad Fermi got is numbers right and no issues with this early "pile" with a Goodyear rubber envelope around it and well nothing else.

  • @JOSEFIRMINO2007
    @JOSEFIRMINO20074 жыл бұрын

    Lucky Guy!!! You made a wonderfull video. Thanks for sharing it with us.

  • @wernerheisenberg44
    @wernerheisenberg446 жыл бұрын

    What a great piece of history! I have a graphite block from the last German reactor experimeny in Haigerloch 1945 at home.

  • @ncc74656m
    @ncc74656m7 жыл бұрын

    That's truly amazing, Carl.

  • @jayc2469
    @jayc24694 жыл бұрын

    I loved this video since I first saw it in 2014 but it is still troubling how Carl handles the fuel 'pellet' unprotected and ends up with a deposit of assorted radionuclides and graphite on fingertips! There was me thinking that Bionerd was fearless to the point of being crazy!

  • @Muonium1

    @Muonium1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why? The entire cylinder has a dose rate of 7 mrem on contact, the few hundred micrograms of (probably almost entirely graphite) on his hand is a completely trivial amount of activity. A few bq total at most.

  • @jamieworthy5163

    @jamieworthy5163

    3 ай бұрын

    You didn’t comprehend anything Bio said in her apple video??

  • @JohnLobbanCreative
    @JohnLobbanCreative7 ай бұрын

    Amazing piece of history!❤

  • @eatcommies1375
    @eatcommies13753 жыл бұрын

    Interesting piece, I lived outside Chicago near Archer woods where the CP1 and it’s fuel are buried. I was always interested in the history of that area, there is stone foundations of buildings with piping sticking out throughout the woods, there is very little history that I could dig up on it but I heard from few people that those are remains of the secret “metallurgy labs” where work took place to develop the reactor.

  • @dirty9358

    @dirty9358

    Жыл бұрын

    I love your name!

  • @markusvester1351
    @markusvester13514 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video, very interesting indeed!

  • @kasel1979krettnach
    @kasel1979krettnach3 жыл бұрын

    i like that you explain the origin of the ore

  • @ernestoterrazas3480
    @ernestoterrazas34806 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Mr. willis for having shuch a tremendous piece of history and thanks very very much. for shearing it with us. Beside your explanations and research where super good, I would love to know how that super tresure got in your hands if posible.

  • @WilliamParmley
    @WilliamParmley2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic, thank you so much!

  • @juliofaustino8953
    @juliofaustino89534 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @ionhunter
    @ionhunter8 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding!

  • @chipurBillWhite
    @chipurBillWhite4 жыл бұрын

    Just fascinating. What a treasure.

  • @df9999999999
    @df99999999997 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video, particularly the gamma spectroscopy analysis. I grew up in the Chicago area. As a Boy Scout in the 1960s, we camped often in the Rocky Glen Forest Preserve in Lemont, Illinois and adjacent to Argonne National Laboratory. One of the camp sites was a stone's throw from the burial site of the CP1 remnants. It was unmarked back then, but a visiting ranger told us about it. I wonder if any similar blocks are buried there. Later around 1965 I was chosen to tour Argonne from science club members at my junior high school. I was allowed within the CP5 containment building, issued a dosimeter and allowed to walk on top of the reactor. All at the age of 13. Imagine that happening today!!

  • @df9999999999

    @df9999999999

    7 жыл бұрын

    It seems my memory was slightly off. The Rocky Glen camp site was located in what is now Waterfall Glen forest preserve in DuPage County, which surrounds Argonne. The Site A CP1/CP2 burial site is in Red Gate woods across the DesPlaines River from Waterfall Glen and where we went for hikes while camping nearby. "Plot M" is also nearby, site of low-level radioactive waste burial. Both locations now have unrestricted access and engraved granite monuments marking their location. The Plot M marker appears to be dated 1978. The Site A marker is undated. The CP5 story is accurate, however! Argonne had at least three other operation reactors at the time, the EBWR Experimental Boiling Water Reactor, Janus, a neutron source used for biological irradiation experiments, and Argonaut, a training reactor. A good summary document drom the time is here: www.ne.anl.gov/About/reactors/History-of-Argonne-Reactor-Operations.pdf

  • @tgrzadziel1975

    @tgrzadziel1975

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@df9999999999 Really cool experience you state... I was in Troop 481 of Burbank. Currently working at A.N.L In same building as Janas

  • @elliottkrieter4640

    @elliottkrieter4640

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@df9999999999 I was going to say that your geography was off a bit but you figured that out. Living in the Chicago suburbs and having read almost everything there is on the Manhatten project, it was a wonder to behold when I went out to the CP1 burial site and walked around.

  • @df9999999999

    @df9999999999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elliottkrieter4640 LOL. It's been a while! I love this story. An uncle was part-owner of Nuclear Chicago in the late 1950s and early 1960s. They manufactured a very early gamma ray spectrometer, used by NASA.

  • @cat637d
    @cat637d6 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful living history!

  • @thoughtsaber
    @thoughtsaber9 жыл бұрын

    Great history lesson!

  • @Carl_Willis
    @Carl_Willis9 жыл бұрын

    @antiprotons: I can't reply to your comment (probably because your Google+ Interaction setting isn't "anyone"). There is an enormous amount of radiation, mostly downscattered gamma rays as well as U x-rays, at the low-energy end of the spectrum. Hopes for seeing plutonium by its x-rays or its gammas are effectively zero. However, a sample of fuel debris is being analyzed for actinide isotopics by mass spec at the University of Missouri right now. Should be interesting.

  • @wwlb4970

    @wwlb4970

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello. While I was reading this report of 2018, which is still confused as to the markings, I noticed that they're stamped in a very crude way, even letters upside down. Even the worst weaponry of WW2, even German last ditch weapons were marked better. Come on, even my first attempt to mark my hand-made scratcher tool with "11" at school 15 years ago was WAY better. This makes me think these letters mean nothing. 1. It's a secret project and confusing the enemy in case of theft is among priority goals. 2. Theft is easily possible - these pseudospheres formed not 5.9 tons, but other, quote bigger amount of UOx. 3. In light of this I highly doubt any of these represent actual manufacturer, since, if stolen from couple places and analysed, guesses could have been made regarding production scale. Normally such things are not stolen from factories, but get "lost" during transportation. 4. And finally, it seems to me that production personnel didn't really know what they were working with, and these marks were finalized during assembly from common pile on CP-1 site - so every piece was marked by at least 2-3 different manufacturers, not even necessarily in one building. This could also explain why they're different in weight.

  • @joshuapotter7372
    @joshuapotter73725 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful!

  • @GroovyVideo2
    @GroovyVideo24 жыл бұрын

    You did good job on video - Thanks

  • @MattGOU-cr4mm
    @MattGOU-cr4mm6 жыл бұрын

    An incredible piece of history here,Fermi . In the book The Making of the Atomic bomb when the pile went critical Fermi announced that "The Pile has gone critical. After that he allowed himself a smile ,then the others that were watching this started getting anxious and nervous,wondering why Fermi wasn't shutting it down,then they heard Fermi say,Zip In , so the control rods were allowed in ,.

  • @ChemicalFlames55
    @ChemicalFlames554 жыл бұрын

    wow what a cool specimen wish i could get my hands on something as cool as that

  • @Kae6502
    @Kae65022 ай бұрын

    Having my fingers stained by graphite from the original Chicago Pile is a level of cool I will never achieve... However, having my fingers stained by graphite from the original Chicago Pile is a level of stupidity I could achieve in a nanosecond.

  • @BoatHouseLounger
    @BoatHouseLounger9 жыл бұрын

    I don’t covet many things in this world, but an original graphite block from CP-1, YEAH! I am a 12 year veteran of civilian nuclear power in these United States and nuclear history is a hobby of mine, so your video was very interesting to me. I see on your Facebook that you have been to Chernobyl, now that would make an excellent video presentation (hint hint). I’d have to assume, with your extensive knowledge and the fact that you have been to the American Museum of Science and Energy that you’ve toured ORNL. What are your thoughts on the MSRE? I am a strong proponent of a thorium-uranium breeder molten salt reactor based nuclear industry after all that I’ve read about MSRE and videos that “energyfromthorium.com” have put out that I’ve seen. I’m sure that this document would be some leisure time reading for you “An Account of Oak Ridge National Laboratory’s Thirteen Nuclear Reactors,” the title which you can google for a free PDF download.

  • @ricardokowalski1579

    @ricardokowalski1579

    11 ай бұрын

    "Thou shall not covet thy neighbors graphite blocks"🌩 Well, that is oddly specific😁

  • @MattGOU-cr4mm
    @MattGOU-cr4mm6 жыл бұрын

    So cool!! Scram y'all probably know but many don't,. Safety, Control,Rod,Axe,Man

  • @ernestoterrazas3480
    @ernestoterrazas34803 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Carl. This is one of the most interesting videos I have seen regarding the fission history. Is perfectly explained withe great demonstrations. I think a "LIKE" is not enough, you deserve a lot more that that. Any way thank you very much for shearing this outstanding piece of history with us.

  • @michaelteague3190
    @michaelteague31906 ай бұрын

    Nice vid! Thx!

  • @burstyou4290
    @burstyou42904 жыл бұрын

    Crazy cool

  • @byront37
    @byront373 жыл бұрын

    SOOOO very cool

  • @mcb187
    @mcb1873 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this is cool! I would be scared to touch the fuel though, lol.

  • @cybersociedadebrasil101
    @cybersociedadebrasil101 Жыл бұрын

    very good.

  • @SuperFinGuy
    @SuperFinGuy9 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention, this was part of the research for the atomic bomb, that's why the pile was at the back of an inconspicuous baseball field in the suburbs of Chicago.

  • @JonathanSchattke

    @JonathanSchattke

    9 жыл бұрын

    CP-1 was in a squash court at the University of Chicago, in Hyde Park (about 6 miles south of downtown). It was not in a suburb at all.

  • @skywave12
    @skywave127 жыл бұрын

    Neat. Amazing how sub Atomic friction with atoms makes heat with the Isotopes trying to become stable. Throw some neutrons at them again. It may start all over. I kinda like what MSR Reactors may do in the future.

  • @SuperflyBri
    @SuperflyBri5 жыл бұрын

    Did you find out if there were any more of these commemorative sets made or still in existence?

  • @markwandrey2937
    @markwandrey29376 жыл бұрын

    Could the alphabetic letter on the piece (M230) illustrated, refer to Malinckrodt Chemical, St. Louis?

  • @electronash
    @electronash5 жыл бұрын

    So, have you started building the Uranium DeLorean (tm) yet?

  • @AKAtheA
    @AKAtheA9 жыл бұрын

    So is the uranium metal coated with something or is it bare? As for display ideas - cloud chamber! If it's ever in a museum, a cloud chamber nearby is a must have in addition to a working geiger counter ;-)

  • @jayc2469
    @jayc24694 жыл бұрын

    Hey Carl! Is that classed as 'Spent' Nuclear Fuel? -on your fingertips-

  • @JustinHEMI05
    @JustinHEMI0511 ай бұрын

    Circling back to this, do you still have it? I recently was lucky enough to obtain one of those slivers of a brick in acrylic for my collection. I have held senior reactor operator licenses on both BWRs and PWRs in the USA and am very interested in nuclear history. Seeing this brick in your hands is amazing and I'm very jealous. Would love to have something like that.

  • @stevusbeefus
    @stevusbeefus4 жыл бұрын

    I just got a 46lb block of Nuclear grade graphite for Xmas time to study neutron moderation and the possibility of modular reactors

  • @MarkRose1337
    @MarkRose13379 жыл бұрын

    That is incredibly cool! I can't think of a more awesome nuclear specimen. I was a little surprised you didn't wash your hands after handling the metal to avoid contaminating other surfaces. Acrylic plastic became commonly available in the 1930's, so it's possible it's original. I can't speak to the regulations in the US, but your treasure may require a license in Canada. We're allowed to possess 10 kg of U/DU in a year, but there are hard limits on other radionuclides which that fuel may exceed. We're limited to 10 Bq/g or 10 kBq total Cs-137 in a sample. There's a good chance your samples exceed the 1 Bq/g or 1 kBq Pu-239/240 limit, too. What kind of alpha readings do you get? How do you contend with the radon off-gassing?

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    I do wash my hands regularly, but I'm not going to make a video of that! About the acrylic, I replaced the original 1950s acrylic right before making this video--its glue seams were falling apart. The new construction (seen here) is solvent-welded. I don't have a meaningful alpha measurement. There is essentially no radon emitted from refined uranium as its long-lived parent, Ra-226, has been eliminated during extractive processing. Thanks for your interest.

  • @MarkRose1337

    @MarkRose1337

    9 жыл бұрын

    Carl Willis Thank you for replying. I'm still in awe at this.

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    Mark Rose Me too!

  • @MarkRose1337

    @MarkRose1337

    9 жыл бұрын

    Carl Lumma Indeed I was. It didn't occur to me until just now that the display case was also acrylic lol

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    Mark Rose Sorry about the confusion. Yes, I have no idea if the acrylic fuel spacer is original equipment. They probably would have used something (since they had hundreds of blocks like this where metal fuel was being put in a pseudosphere hole), but given the concerns at the time about control of pile contaminants, including atmospheric gases, I would have thought they'd machine the spacers out of AGOT graphite. Unfortunately, some mysteries are going to remain...

  • @JStuffer
    @JStuffer9 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised to see you handle these parts with your bare hands. Is it safe? I wonder if the graphite would be activated to any extent...

  • @Yaivenov
    @Yaivenov16 күн бұрын

    "Lightly toasted." 😂

  • @cypherf0x
    @cypherf0x8 жыл бұрын

    Amazing piece of history. Is there any way you could provide the measurements of the block, uranium, and adaptors so a replica can be made?

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    8 жыл бұрын

    +cypherf0x Sure. I have SolidWorks models made from careful measurements. I have radiographs. I have drawings made from the SolidWorks models in PDF form. Let me know what you want and where to send it.

  • @jurgenrumsfeld8825
    @jurgenrumsfeld88255 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Willis, how are you able to handle that without getting sick? I don't know anything about nuclear energy, aside from that it interests me on a superficial level (I'm not intelligent enough to understand it)

  • @Bushcraft-xz6xd
    @Bushcraft-xz6xd5 жыл бұрын

    When you had the Geiger counter on top of the Acrylic with the Beta shield on were you just reading Gamma or X Rays? I assume the Alpha and Beta particles were blocked?

  • @jamesluck2969

    @jamesluck2969

    4 жыл бұрын

    The measurement was on gamma radiation output, both alpha and beta would be blocked by not only the acrylic plate but also the beta sheild on the probe. The probe being gamma beta only. I believe this probe is a eberline HP 270 energy compensated probe for beta gamma dose rate. In my knowledge I do not believe Xrays would be likely from the decay of refined uranium.

  • @markbell9742
    @markbell97429 жыл бұрын

    Hi Carl: Fantastic! Thanks for showing this historical treasure and a few of its nuclear secrets. This was timely for me, as I recently acquired very good Bicron 2m2/2 from eBay at a good price (lucky) and have been acquire spectra on various radioactive friends and working through some experiments (Google: Experimental Gamma Ray Spectroscopy, Peterson - it will be at the top). Cheers, Mark

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark, you'll enjoy gamma spectrometry with the Bicron crystal...it'll open a new world of radiation metrology. And if you ever come to Albuquerque, I can give your scintillation detector a real smorgasbord of new experiences! Thanks for your interest.

  • @markbell9742

    @markbell9742

    9 жыл бұрын

    Carl Willis I have wanted for many years to make a pilgrimage to Trinity, I guess the next opportunity is this coming April. Cheers, Mark

  • @sbreheny
    @sbreheny8 жыл бұрын

    Is this natural uranium? I assume that it was not enriched (although there are no doubt some daughter isotopes still present from the use in a reactor)

  • @mastershake42019

    @mastershake42019

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sean Breheny did you just assume that isotopes gender? Triggered!!!!!

  • @chemistryscuriosities
    @chemistryscuriosities11 ай бұрын

    What happened to the rest of the uranium?

  • @apeek7
    @apeek79 жыл бұрын

    I will bet that the three numbers refer to a row, column and level for that Uranium slug to occupy in the pile. You said that the three organizations each used a different method to enrich the Uranium they supplied. Do you know the method Iowa State University used to enrich the Uranium that Frank Spedding brought to the Chicago (Spedding's Eggs) I was born and reared in Ames, Iowa.

  • @josephastier7421
    @josephastier74212 жыл бұрын

    Agreed with earlier posts - you have an artifact worthy of the Smithsonian Museum.

  • @p3rpNZ

    @p3rpNZ

    11 ай бұрын

    if that museum had it, I would never get to see this video.

  • @tnwnl
    @tnwnl9 жыл бұрын

    "Lightly toasted" lol

  • @utubeisoutofnames1
    @utubeisoutofnames17 жыл бұрын

    was CP-1 power output thermal only? if not how did we get energy out of it with no steam system? and how could you assume its power output, in 1942 with that eras tech and knowledge? did they do it based on its exterior temps as that seems it would be subject to speculation as I don't understand how they could measure the internal temps or know how much heat could actually be extracted from the process. or is the wattage measurement something we calculated about the experiment after the fact, and during operation they simply knew they went critical. Sorry my understanding of nuclear science is very poor, I love your videos as it gets me wanting to learn more and I don't feel like I need to have a degree to learn about this topic.

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    7 жыл бұрын

    CP-1 was not built as a nuclear power plant. Its power output could be inferred from neutron measurements (since fission yields a predictable number of neutrons in the aggregate, and about 200 MeV of energy per event). The energy ended up as heat in the pile, which would have been dissipated by conduction to the cooler surroundings. CP-1 ran only at low power levels (only reaching a few hundred watts on one day). In rebuilt form as CP-2, it reached about 10 kW and was run this way for days on end.

  • @johnwebb4869

    @johnwebb4869

    7 жыл бұрын

    I believe if it had been run at higher power for any length of time everyone in the room would of been zapped pretty hard.. no shielding until later, 10KW for days would of been behind lots of concrete with cooling systems.

  • @BluesBoy-ij2rb
    @BluesBoy-ij2rb8 ай бұрын

    Im a little confused is this what the actual blocks looked like or is this a small piece chopped off for a souvenir??......... Erik

  • @amiralozse1781
    @amiralozse17812 жыл бұрын

    seems you are no friend of gloves? great video and explanation!!

  • @electroncapture
    @electroncapture9 жыл бұрын

    I'm a power reactor health physicist, not a licensing expert or reactor physicist, but it would appear to me that this CP-1 fuel may require a domestic license in the US. The CP-1 reactor fuel was made of a metallic form of natural uranium. The most abundant uranium isotopes in natural uranium are U-238 (99.27%) and U-235 (fissile, 0.72%). The US NRC defines source material as "(1) Uranium or thorium, or any combination thereof, in any physical or chemical form or (2) ores which contain by weight one-twentieth of one percent (0.05%) or more of: (i) Uranium, (ii) thorium or (iii) any combination thereof. Source material does not include special nuclear material". Special nuclear material is plutonium or enriched uranium (i.e. not natural uranium). NRC regulation 10CFR40 contains regulations for the "Domestic Licensing of Source Material". In 10CFR40, the NRC states, in part, that a general license (i.e., not requiring a specific license) authorizing commercial and industrial firms; research, educational, and medical institutions; and Federal, State, and local government agencies to receive, possess, use, and transfer uranium and thorium, in their natural isotopic concentrations and in the form of depleted uranium, for research, development, educational, commercial, or operational purposes so long as a person possesses no more than a total of 7 kg (15.4 lb) of uranium and thorium at any one time. If you have ~5 kg of CP-1 fuel, which the other materials adding to the mass of the fuel that are not subject to licensing, the natural uranium is probably not licensable quantity. However, a bigger concern is the amount of fission products, such as Cs-137, Sr-90, Pu-239, and others with long half-lives. Based on the information you provided, the CP-1 fuel does contain byproduct material, and special nuclear material Pu-239 (from the fission of U-235). 10CFR70 contains licensing requirements for special nuclear material. It states that "a general licensee under this section is not authorized to acquire, deliver, receive, possess, use, transfer, import, or export special nuclear material, except as authorized in a specific license". A brief review of this document revealed that the Pu-239 may in itself, require a license. As far as byproduct material, 10CFR30 contains requirements for domestic licensing of byproduct material. The exempt quantities in 10CFR30 are given in units of activity (e.g. microcuries, or uCi), and the amounts listed in this regulation are relatively low values. For example, Cs-137 exempt quantity is 10 uCi, and for Sr-90, the value is 0.1 uCi. The actual byproduct material content of the fuel can be estimated. As New Mexico is an agreement state, they may have additional licensing requirements. But, as you said, you contacted them, and hopefully they respond to you. With all of this said, THIS IS A COOL PIECE OF NUCLEAR HISTORY!!! Thanks for sharing and let us know how this plays out!

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    I agree with the legal analysis suggesting that this may be liceseable as byproduct material but is probably generally licensed as a "small quantity" of natural uranium source material below the bag-limit quantity for specific licensing. The NM Bureau of Radiation Control has been given all the information available to me and nothing further has been determined yet.

  • @joker_storm2232
    @joker_storm22327 жыл бұрын

    Historian: This is a priceless piece of history. Cant even put a price on it. Rick Harrison: So what were you looking to get for this? Customer: Oh I don't know. How about $500? Rick Harrison: I can only offer you $1 for it, sorry man, its just gonna sit around my shop and who knows if anyone will even notice it blah blah blah

  • @9TDF
    @9TDF4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what kind of power out put a graphite moderated molten-salt thorium reactor with supercritical co2 turbines could reach, 1000 MWe, 1500 MWe 2400 MWe, over 3000 MWe? I want molten salt reactors!

  • @theq4602
    @theq46029 жыл бұрын

    This graphite was specially synthetic manufactured. You can't use just any graphite because it has too much boron witch eats up neutrons. That's why the Nazi's graphite reactor wouldn't work. I wish I knew how to manufacture the graphite in the particular way it was, but I can't find any information on how it was done.

  • @polok890

    @polok890

    8 жыл бұрын

    +David Vermillion type nuclear graphite into wikipedia

  • @spambot7110
    @spambot71103 жыл бұрын

    i don't understand these units, all i know is that if The Thing Go Clicky Fast, Don't Touch It

  • @MinSredMash
    @MinSredMash3 жыл бұрын

    Does the graphite itself have much beta activity?

  • @gbel78
    @gbel783 жыл бұрын

    2:29 3.6 Roentgen Not Great, Not Terrible

  • @BeCurieUs
    @BeCurieUs9 жыл бұрын

    Ohhh regulatory question! Can one legally possess that much uranium metal? I have always wanted, as a talking point, about 400 grams of uranium to represent the lifetime energy consumption of a person. Looking at the NRC 10 CFR thingy, it seems like the answer is no, it isn't. www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/cfr/part040/part040-0013.html

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    To the extent that as an American individual you can represent yourself as a "commercial or industrial firm" or "research or educational institution", you can own up to the general license bag limit (apparently now metric!) of 7 kg bulk uranium metal. You can own a smaller quantity (1.5 kg) of "dispersable" forms of U. This is called a "small quantity of source material", which should be distinguished from your "unimportant quantity" as defined in 40.13. www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/cfr/part040/part040-0022.html

  • @BeCurieUs

    @BeCurieUs

    9 жыл бұрын

    Carl Willis Excellent news! Even more reason to finally start up my youtube channel!

  • @MarkRose1337

    @MarkRose1337

    9 жыл бұрын

    Christopher Willis Subscribed in anticipation :)

  • @colchronic
    @colchronic3 жыл бұрын

    74 microsieverts/h

  • @edwardwouters9492
    @edwardwouters94925 жыл бұрын

    . I would were gloves handling these materials. At least.. The materials (and especially the graphite) are giving off dust, and traces of it get immediately on fingertips and fingernails just by handling it. I would also mention "safety first" precautions, since lot of viewers see your videos as educational videos. .

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    5 жыл бұрын

    You raise a legitimate point about hygiene generally. I think the hazards associated with solid pieces of ~130 kWd/t spent fuel are pretty minor, as long as hands get washed, and the graphite has no real hazards at all. I kept a pancake frisker around and didn't notice much removable contamination. The biggest issue in this specimen were a few flakes of U oxide that I collected carefully so they could be sent off for mass spec analysis.

  • @edwardwouters9492

    @edwardwouters9492

    5 жыл бұрын

    . I couldn't find the definition of " kWd/t ". (Except for the kiloWatt..) Can you give me a clue..? Thanks, I would appreciate that.. .

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardwouters9492 Burnup units for nuclear fuel, kilowatt-days per metric ton uranium.

  • @QbutNotTheQ
    @QbutNotTheQ6 ай бұрын

    Are you sure it’s a good idea to touch that with your fingers? 🤔

  • @driveitlikeyastoleit55
    @driveitlikeyastoleit557 ай бұрын

    8:09 That's what she said lol.

  • @PaulWalker87
    @PaulWalker874 жыл бұрын

    3.6 Roentgen. Not Great. Not Terrible.

  • @brettmassoni4937
    @brettmassoni49373 жыл бұрын

    Interesting! I have a piece of history as well, you should contact me!

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    3 жыл бұрын

    Certainly interested in what you have. Shoot me an email at carl.willis@gmail.com.

  • @deathstr1ker6666
    @deathstr1ker66669 жыл бұрын

    Have you gotten a call from the FBI yet?

  • @Carl_Willis

    @Carl_Willis

    9 жыл бұрын

    No, and a little bit of nuclear fuel is probably not high on their priority list considering all the weed that is getting smoked in America right this minute. My state's Bureau of Radiation Control has been notified about the characteristics of this item and a DOE radiological assessment team has deemed it safe for loan to a local museum. The University of New Mexico Nuclear Engineering Department also knows about it since they kindly let me use their HPGe detector to get the gamma spectrum shown.

  • @theempresssharyl6463

    @theempresssharyl6463

    9 жыл бұрын

    Carl Willis Are you saying you can make a fuel air bomb out of hash oil?

  • @cgrant26

    @cgrant26

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TheEmpress Sharyl (TheEmpressSharyl) You can make pretty much any kind of oil into a fuel-air bomb provided you have a way to atomize the fuel, disperse it into the air at the proper fuel/air ratio (or provide an oxidizer) and generate sufficient heat to ignite it.

  • @geoninja8971
    @geoninja89712 ай бұрын

    Are you weighing nuclear fuel rods on your wife's kitchen scales again?

  • @MrSGL21
    @MrSGL218 жыл бұрын

    The good ol ABQ. You gonna build a nuke powered meth lab? ha just kidding. neat video.

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