Impressive coup Matt. Keep up this level quality content for next season. Forest Focus is way and above the best podcast out there.

@Forest-Focus

18 күн бұрын

Thank you Phillip. That's the plan! :)

To dismiss corruption with so much certainty when admitting that he has personally witnessed 2 occasions himself is shocking. The refusal to acknowledge the possibility of corruption is the exact attitude that allows it to spread. Clear Communication and transparency are integral. Premier league is in danger of destroying itself. Greed is rife. Where huge sums of money are present corruption is sadly inevitable. Its incredibly dangerous and naive to suggest there is no corruption.

@aidanhallett5590

17 күн бұрын

He's seen thousands of games and thinks he's seen corruption twice in all these years. Two examples is not hard evidence that corruption exists on all the occasions football fans allege it is.

@silverwave2238

17 күн бұрын

Not corruption but unconscious bias is the correct phrase lol

@EST1865

17 күн бұрын

Agreed 👍

Can journalists start saying that Forest lost sympathy among journalists. Because they didn't lose any among the majority of normal football fans. Most football fans agreed with them.

@rjw4762

17 күн бұрын

Well said.....the PGMOL has said that the Liverpool drop ball decision was Wrong, and we should have had at least 1 penalty at Everton.....2 Public 'apologies' in 1 season.....has any other club had that this season ?

The reason the word corrupt is used is because there's no way a trained official can be that incompetent when even an untrained child can make the correct decision without 6 different camera angles and slow mo

Nuno is VERY underrated and we are extremely lucky to have him I for one hope he stays and establishes his own legacy at the Club, because I honestly feel with his leadership and managerial skills, if he’s given time, he can mould these players into a regular Premier League force 👍🏼

@BritishRosie-es3zr

17 күн бұрын

He has an impossible job while scattergun recruitment is in force. They need to listen to what he wants rather than just dumping players on him

@rjw4762

17 күн бұрын

I am very much in the Nuno Must Stay camp - he did VERY well at Wolves - though his squad was much better....though who's to say that Forest's squad won't be just as good this time next year. We have a dozen players off our hands in just 6 weeks (though some, like Aina and Boly, hopefully will be offered new contracts) -a great chance to re-shape the squad.

@mickydimos

17 күн бұрын

I agree 100% and, in any case, where would you get a manager of his class to replace him?

@rjw4762

17 күн бұрын

@@mickydimos Am a Nuno IN fan, but you have to ask Where did Palace and Brighton and Bouurnemouth get Their Managers from - all of whom were unknowns to 99% of English fans. I think that this is Nuno's last job in English football - and I actually think that he is very motivated to succeed - even though his persona is very low-key !

@mickydimos

17 күн бұрын

@@rjw4762 They probably got them from the same place as the players they seem to find year in year out. BTW - being controversial I think having Henry Winter on is a complete waste of time. You won’t get anything out of him, he speaks a lot but says nothing just like a politician. I would have told him to piss off and disconnected him the second time he told us to look at ourselves.

He says Marinakis isnt a bad owner .... Hang on : Marinakis is a awesome owner! I love the guy. We are so lucky .

@PazLeBon

17 күн бұрын

matter of opinion for sure

Henry Winter has often posted how he loves covering Forest games at the WFCG. His views are very credible. Great work Matt !

The brilliantly subtle self-compliment to the Forest Focus gang; "Henry, wonderful to have us with you". Well played Matt. Seriously, great pod, high quality stuff.

Quality guest. Very good insights from Henry, especially on Nuno. I have to say I think he’s quite a good match for us, in terms of the position we’re in and the squad we have and how that fits his style of play. It’s great to get a glimpse into a character given how reserved he is. I would certainly give him the chance of a pre-season and another window.

Excellent interview ..... well done Matt for securing this one!

Two great sports journalists. One great podcast. Thanks Matt.

More Henry Winter if you can please, high quality, intelligent insight

15:00 straw man argument, Winter! The accusation is NOT corruption, it's BIAS. The most honest man in the world can still be biased. Getting tired of our reasonable objection being misrepresented.

@ackbardomination1807

17 күн бұрын

Important distinction for sure. Also for Winter and his ilk at the top of sports journalism to feign such abject horror at the mere suggestion of corruption of officials is pure gatekeeping. We live in a society where Catholic priests have abused children for decades, politicians on the take continually, big banks taking money from Mexican drug cartels (HSBC). And yet we're expected to believe football with its global multi billion industry status, betting companies everywhere to be seen, proven corruption from FIFA/UEFA in the past... but our lovely refs and VAR officials could NEVER be corrupt?! Don't make me laugh! Real fans and people who know how this world works see right through this journalistic gatekeeping. Other than that, nice pod 😁 Peace out ✌️

@aidanhallett5590

17 күн бұрын

Many, many fans are talking of corruption, not bias.

Amazing insights on Nuno and comparisons to other clubs and fanbases. Brilliant piece, great work Matt and thank you Henry

This guy is way to mainstream to give an honest opinion, he is well versed in telling you what you want to hear whilst keeping the status quo.

@nigelbaldwin1038

17 күн бұрын

Are you serious !!!! Get back to “ forest tv “ mate.

@matthewgreen105

17 күн бұрын

@@nigelbaldwin1038very serious, It seems like you only absorb information that aligns with your views. Therefore, it's not surprising that you missed the subtle criticisms and clever language, as you were too preoccupied with clapping like a seal.!

Great guest and great interview. Pleasure to listen to thanks Matt!

''Your not going to get Ancellotti'' Everyone would have thought that about him going to Everton. Money talks and never underestimate the pull of the Premier League.

What a wonderful guy. Good to hear about Nuno, sounds like a man with great integrity, we should keep him.

Thank you Henry for echoing my oft repeated point about the uniqueness of the Trent Bridge sports hub!!

Really enjoyed that Matt. Great to hear Henry’s view as a near local and independent viewpoint around the season & future of the reds. 👏🏻👏🏻

Great interview Matt. I especially love these informed neutral perspectives on Forest from outside the bubble. This season has been pretty traumatic but the FF podcast has definitely been one of the highlights. Many thanks.

What a great guest! Some brilliant interviews on this podcast Matt.

Great episode yet again , Henry really puts across interesting and valid points.

Forest fans are by and large measured. But I think corruption is an all encompassing word that covers just very poor standards and definite bias towards the bigger clubs.

@wayneb8620

17 күн бұрын

Exactly, 'corruption' doesn't always refer to brown envelopes being passed around; although Forest have been on the receiving end of that as well.

@BetmmaTipsUFC

16 күн бұрын

That's how it's being used by people... But when people incorrectly use the term "corruption", you see it right here: You turn logical, sensible people against you and you're left sounding like a bunch of conspiracy theorists howling at the moon.

Great guest Matt, really good insight into Nuno, quality podcast as always 👏

I think the corruption accusations are generally more aimed at the PL, around the points deductions being applied to Forest and Everton and not to the likes of City and Chelsea. I don't think many Forest fans seriously think referees are corrupt.

Loved this. Great to get an informed external perspective on the club - and the unique value and importance of the City Ground.

Mate, you are finding some serious guests. Such a good watch.

Good job Matt and Henry

Excellent Interview Matt Thanks for sharing

Brilliant as always! ❤

good interview Henry

Top drawer. Henry’s one of the best.

As predicted… brilliant! 👍

Excellent pod Matt. Keep on keepin on.. And let’s stick with the City Ground.

Best guest ever on this podcast!

Good to see two of the top sports journalists in the UK having a chat.

Great podcast Matt. Some interesting points from Henry on Nuno, still not convinced about him myself.

Brilliant

Great PC Matt,interesting insight from Henry,not really surprised by anything he said,however he says we are the bellweather for all things football then completely disregards our grievances about bias refs then i think is a bit hypocritical,The Everton Luton drama,there was def something wrong there.

That book shop used to sell old programs and programs from other clubs. I was a collector!!

How are you be so sure there is no corruption. You can't reject it out of hand, it is a possibility.

well that whole chat is about emotions and feelings,marinakis is here to do business so it is what it is

I’m torn on this. On the one hand he said “stay at the city ground” for all the reasons we have talked about (the nostalgia/ the atmosphere/ the feel good feeling it gives everyone). But I’m the other hand he says top managers “won’t come to the city ground” and Nuno is “right for your level”. He says he doesn’t say this to be patronising, but sadly, that is what it is. I don’t want to leave the city ground … but football is supposed to be a competitive sport. What’s the point if we basically are saying we will happily accept mediocrity forever… With no hope of competing. It’s really difficult, but for all the flattery and nostalgia and kind words, this also raises in me those feelings of “but why does Forest have to accept its station?” Marinakas wants us to revive the best of our history - but to do that, we can’t stand still. What if better times and better memories and even better atmospheres could be created in the future? But we had to have a bigger vision to grasp it?

Not corrupt.... 1984 Anderlecht..

'Corruption!? Honestly! Be measured! Be sane! Have heard youselves? Well, Mr Winter, you've convined me; I'll ignore the scrouples of my own judgement and instead defer to the unreasoning kid hyperbole of a fully invested industry insider. 😂😂😂

Was it Greg Mitchell Henry met at the England games?

This podcast is a credit to the club. Unlike the embarrassing “ Forest tv “ which makes you look like fools.

@JackDray-iu2kd

17 күн бұрын

So true but even a few of these were saying we're now top half side coz of recruitment until a couple of weeks ago still

@AlexFarranGuitar

17 күн бұрын

Forest TV is a joke channel with the sole intention of appealing to teenagers. Not a single ounce of adult opinion on there any day of the week.

The corruption comments only start gaining traction after multiple inexplicable mistakes, not just the ones in the Everton game. Key word being inexplicable! As far as the tweet goes, I took it as a suggestion of sub conscious bias being the main concern, not corruption. It’s a very real thing and nobody can deny that.

I'm still very much Nuno in. Pre-season is massive

A lot of very good comments and an excellent vid. However, I think you missed an opportunity there. HW, like so many pundits & media persons, completely missed the point of the Everton rant. Just looking at PL games under Nuno, in the first 14 games there were SEVEN controversial calls that went against Forest - basically one every other game. That has a debilitating impact on players, managers and coaching staff (and the owner, too). It was particularly notable how much Nuno had to try and control his emotions when all his efforts and those of his players and staff, were undone by consistently poor officiating. After the Everton match you could see how he and Neco were devastated by not being awarded any of the 3 penalties, similar to many that have been awarded AGAINST Forest, and they are required to face the media and NOT say anything controversial or be charged with 'bringing the game into disrepute ' by those who actually doing precisely that! No accountability for the officials. I remain convinced all these poor decisions materially affected team confidence. Including Everton, there were 8 games where we disadvantaged by the officials. One of those games we won, the other 7, all lost. It is reasonable to suggest Forest could have had a minimum of 7 points from those games and, with the confidence gained, I would suggest we would have accrued further points from non-controversial games we lost. So, with those 7 points plus, say, 4 points from the n-c games and without the 4 point deduction, that would mean our points total would now be 44, a respectable total with 3 points still up for grabs. We all now how important confidence is in football; just look at our promotion year under Cooper! I contend we have lost out significantly due to poor officiating and that Mr Marinakis was entitled to make a stand on the issue. I, for one, applaud his intervention but the way the media immediately reacted negatively to it says much about their inability to read what he actually said and their ignorance of the background information that perpetrated his explosion. After all, he is also trying to run a business where consistently poor officiating has cost him millions and yet he has no redress (other than the usual apology from PGMOL - how many of those have we had this year? I'd love to see a table of clubs that have received apologies this season).

Why do we believe our game is corruption free? There is a load of cash in the game. It is beyond belief that there is no corruption in our game. I am not saying the corruption is solely to the detriment of our club, or even that there has been any corruption that has gone against us. However, to think with billions of pounds washing around to say there is no corruption is burying your head in the sand.

Really interesting insight, but also a bit annoyed by a couple of his points.. The thing is, that the main issue isnt VAR, or referees quality on it's own.. Its the bias, the way decisions favors the "big" clubs. The way PSR regulations are rigged for status quo, and to be honest, listening to supporters from clubs like Liverpool backing on our stand against VAR Is only annoying. For years they have benefitted from Salah, Jota, and so on diving around winning soft penalties and only had a few bigger VAR failures going against them.. VAR has to be AI driven to remove bias.. before its fair on all clubs.

I have a lot of time for Henry winter, a dedicated sports journalist, but to say "football belongs to the fans and not the media" is not really true. The media pumping billions into football own football. If they take the money away football as it is in England is finished.

Where’s the proof of no corruption? These mainstream journalists make me laugh.

I think we need to move to keep up with the big boys . The fans make the club not the ground and alot of fans cant get a ticket i feel for the next lot of kids who want to see forest but cant get in . We need to grow 40k wont cut it we need to able to let every one who wants to go to a game be able to get in not to mention the cash that it will bring in.

Nice work getting HW on

He tickled your belly with flattery and you lay down smiling like a cheshire cat!

Henry, you mention VAR type systems being successful in US sports well derivatives have worked in tennis, both rugbies and cricket for years, successfully. Goal line technology has been with us for ten years, successfully. I don’t understand why the very first thing the system doesn’t do is draw the line even if there isn’t an offside call. Then they can look at whatever else needs looking at. Most of the messing about looking at this that and the other, most often irrelevant, is what is wasting time. Oh, and the communication between ref and VAR needs to be 100% broadcast to the fans.

Nuno has a good stand up wash in his sink once a week!

We have made so many positive improvements over the course of the season but they all seem to get blown off course by the inconsistent and incompetent refereeing, some odd selections and substitutions along with our absolute inability to defend corners. Does it make you feel that with a full preseason these can be dealt with by Nuno?

WFCG❤

Only just seen this discussion. If ever there was a time for rational, informed and independent thoughts on all matters Forest and Matt gives us one of the best. I've always liked Henry Winter and let's hope some of his wisdom seeps into the conspiracy theorists amongst the fan base and that those erring towards leaving City Ground think again.

I got, you have a cute little club that needs to stay in its lane. Don't upset the apple cart!

Thank you for this interview, Matt. It’s brilliant to have people on this channel who counter the absolute rubbish that there’s corruption in PGMOL.

@martzp5535

17 күн бұрын

Counter? rubbish? The Italian giants getting relegated? Anderlecht ref taking a bribe? Yes must just be incompetence from refs that have been in the game for years as a "professional" Who was the ref that admitted to not calling out errors because he didn't want to show up his friend who was reffing? Literally said at beginning of season.

@rjw4762

17 күн бұрын

I don't think there is 'corruption' - but I question the Competence.

@oliver-hailnolly5051

17 күн бұрын

@@rjw4762 The difference is one allegation will end up in court and another won’t.

@rjw4762

17 күн бұрын

@@oliver-hailnolly5051 Yes, you can't go around alleging 'corruption' without pretty solid evidence. But I think it was not over to top for Forest to raise the issue of the Luton-supporting Official officiating on the Everton game.....that is where the PL / PGMOL should have said "Sorry, Stewart, you'll need to sit this one out"....but they didn't. That's not coruption, but I think it's lack of planning.

@wayneb8620

17 күн бұрын

​@@martzp5535Exactly. 'corruotion' doesn't always mean brown envelopes being handed over, although we all know that also happens.

99% of fans think the referees are poor, make mistakes and often are pressured into incorrect decisions….a short cut is calling them corrupt, even if they’re just not very good.

@Robboisagenius

18 күн бұрын

If PSR is really about sustainability, it’s laughable that we are told that we should have sold a player for £17m less two months earlier than a transfer window that isn’t synchronous with the financial year end.

He loves to name drop and talks about Marinakis has an ego!

I think having Henry Winter on is a complete waste of time. You won’t get anything out of him, he speaks a lot but says nothing just like a politician. I would have told him to piss off and disconnected him the second time he told us to look at ourselves.

23 years of ffp kept us out of the premier league whilst Leicester and man city went crazy reveals how corrupt the league is

🌲🌲⭐⭐🌲🌲

Why did he kill a boa constrictor in Rutland? Does Nuno live in Rutland?

@fredfredrickson5436

17 күн бұрын

Because it was up his trouser leg at the bus stop (you'd have done the same.)

Referees are just very poor, and var should be separated from them to specifically trained personnel

Its a competence issue, rather than a corruption problem. This is the weakest crop of refs in decades

PGMOL NEEDED CALLING OUT WHAT IS THIS GUY ON? Picking fights you cant win shows Mr M’s mentallity i like his mentallity if more owners had the gumption to call these useless flanges out maybe var would work

Var is destoying football get rid

Lol if we stay we will suffer financially and therefore league position will suffer, me i dont want to be relegation fodder every season, as long as we dont put an athletic track at the new ground im alll for it

Is it just me or does he comes across as full of his own self importance though? One of those characters who disguises his opinion as fact.

Nuno did not keep forest up other teams did around us

@derek4164

18 күн бұрын

Beating Newcastle away, beating Manchester United at home were huge factors in keeping us up - thank you Nuno 👍🏼

@JackDray-iu2kd

17 күн бұрын

Second worst club over last five months, second bottom If season started ​this year.....worat away side ever, lowest points ever in the easiest ever season since prem started....its definitely thanks to others clubs lol@@derek4164

He's awful.