Thank you very much as always for your honest, good or bad actions and results. Your detailed view helps all of us to really know how to best approach the different situations. Thank you for what you do!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the support! Thanks so much!

I squealed, yelled and squirmed in my chair watching this. Holy crap. Great video.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

😂 Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

I've run this trail so many times... still the best! Nice work with the WK2.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It is a great trail!

Wow! Nicely done!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

My modified jeep wrangler is down as I try to find the parts to rebuilt the engine. I have been looking for second vehicle and after watching a few of your videos I decided to get a 2015 Cherokee trail hawk. Thanks for showing me a fun second Jeep to drive and modify as I put my wrangler back together.

Thanks for doing "Revenge" in the WK2. Watched two videos today. One we missed which was the gear you have and after watching, we know now why you still have the free cooler. So you can save for the new door panel you will eventually need. LOL. We will remove Revenge from our "WK2 bucket list". Cheers. Great vid. Already hungry for Saturday night!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Watching! Looking forward to it!

Great video. I have done Revenge quite a few times. We did it in Old school wranglers, built K5 Blazer, 3rd and 4th gen 4 runners, and motor cycles. It is a fine trail.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

It certainly has enough to keep a person occupied! Thanks. For watching 👍🏻

Great job with the video!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Looks so fun! Great job not dying! ;)

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Jess thank you!

Great work

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Man, you are way more willing to break shit than I am! Hats off to you my man!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Thank you for showing us what the WK2 can do, and for guiding us along this trail and showing us what to look out for on Hell’s Revenge. I am petrified of heights, but I always like facing my fears and focusing on what must be done to overcome obstacles. I may try this and if I do I’ll let you know how it turns out. I run a stock 2016 WK2 diesel on 18” 32s and it’s my daily driver.

@ProdigalOverland

Жыл бұрын

Way to face those fears!

Awesome video!!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Badass! I wanna do more stuff like this in my gcth but unfortunately I’m in Texas and everything like this is such a far drive. Been to moab once a month after I got mine but was to scared to tear it up. Now it’s well broken in and ready to hit the good stuff. Awesome video

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great work with the WK2.. I think going down to 17s and going 285s you'll find you are much more capable. Love the content.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks David! Appreciate you watching and commenting!

You're showing the max of wk2 My regards man!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Nice video

Great video, as usual. Surveying the entire route and pointing out obstacles and lines taken. As a WK2 Overland EcoDiesel owner, I like watching YOU push the vehicle to the limit on these trails so I know just what to avoid. The diesel engine is fabulous for climbing and crawling. It practically idles up most obstacles. With QuadraDrive in 4lo and Rock mode (4-1/2" lift), this vehicle is a 🐐 for my purposes. Like you, I do push my vehicle, but avoid big rock climbs, except when cornered, which is why I like watching your vids :) I give my GC a 9.5/10.

@ProdigalOverland

Жыл бұрын

Glad you’re enjoying that diesel!

JL wrangler owner here. I gotta admit that GC is badass. Definitely a Jeep. Looks so much fun toi

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! It is a good time!

I saw a crown vic out on that trail one day next to tip-over at the end of the trail.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

A Meyers crazy!

I would crap my pants on that downhill. Worth it!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@MrKozanitis

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Simpson see my reply above...written before I read all the comments all the way down to yours! My thoughts exactly! 😂 !

@inigomontoya7593

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrKozanitis Nice. Hopefully you found your way and are headed back to the states. That's a hell of a flight if you're nonstop.

Let’s be honest, Steve chickened out on hells gate. LOL! Loved it Brad!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I was all for it until that guy backed out😜

@jeepgreatstories

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland 😂🤣😂

@eda7875

3 жыл бұрын

I chickened out with my wrangler.

Glad to see you getting out there and being unique! Pro-Tip, 3:50 if the built JK hits their rear end at the bottom of a steep climb, there is no way you don't get hung up on your much lower rear end. A lot of it is watching the guy infront of you and KNOWING the differences between you and him. 11:00 I get wanting to push your limits...but fully wedged/turtled on rock ledges with PLASTIC underbody protection is an easy way to break stuff. (There is no reason to believe you had the clearance for that particular ledge) You just need to grasp the geometry involved on if you have the proper clearances for certain lines. Nothing wrong with taking a bypass, as opposed to holding up traffic for who knows how long to get out of a bad situation. You definitely need to learn how to take slightly better lines, as there are lots of things that just the slightest change in line makes soo much easier for us non-flexy guys. (and much better spotters could help, or knowing when not to listen to the bad spotters, when he freaks out over 'tippy' when it was never remotely close to tippy...) Also, i get that you are excited you can have ads...but please calm down on their spacing...and quite of bit of dead spaces to edit out. just my opinion.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

So, I love to try thing that others folks say can’t be done. Sometimes it goes my way, sometimes not. But as I always say. Better to try and fail then not try at all. Since you wheel in an unconventional platform as well, I suspect you may understand this. I don’t believe we held anyone up too bad this day as many of them seemed to enjoy seeing us out on the trail. And certainly I didn’t set out to get stuck. But the way my back end kept moving caused this to happen. And yes a great spotter is just as important as the driver. That is why I didn’t try hells gate on this. As I’m sure you know, you want the guy leading you up that to feel comfortable and experienced with the correct line. As I mentioned we didn’t have our full team with us this day so we were not quite at full strength. But again I’m so thankful to those that stepped in to help us out. A lot of folks get very intense about the specific gear I need or technical issues about the trails. While it’s often interesting most of that advice doesn’t come with an offer to pay for those recommended upgrades. I’m not sure you have realized this yet but we care more about the community and relationships formed along the way than perfect trail runs, lines, or gear. As such I expect we will continue to make friends, mistakes and memories. Good luck with your channel. Maybe We’ll bump into each other one day.

@MrKozanitis

3 жыл бұрын

Prodigal Overland well expressed! You said it all in a very gentlemanly and polite way. You keep on impressing me positively, Brad!

Just got done doing that one in my WK2! Tipp Over challenge got dominated!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

That's Awesome! Great Job!

i went through in a stock trailhawk without a scratch, didn't even air down, but I also didn't pick the crazy obstacles you were following the wrangler on. I looked down on the entrace to hells gate and said no f way. Did a bath tub, dragons tail, tip over challenge etc.. none of the places that required crazy ground clearance. f capable SUV's!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Nice man!! It’s a great trail!

Great tour! I’m assuming you have the air suspension. Which mode do you ride with most of the time? I find the air suspension very bouncy in off-road 2, and sometimes I loose traction momentarily even at a crawl, so I tend to use Off-road 1 most of the time unless dealing with a clearance issue. I’ve never done a trail of this difficulty - thoroughly enjoyed it - thanks!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I also prefer OR1 because it isn't as stiff, however we often need the extra ground clearance of OR2. Thanks for Watching!

Do you remember what air pressure you had in the tires? Had to ride the fine line between ground clearance and grip

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. I was at 20 psi

Hi, Brad. Another grrrreat video with awesome music! I loved it. Choosing the right music to a video especially like this is tricky at best. You, or whoever chose it (and edited it) did a fantastic job! Kudos. And, man, to bring your JGC through all this as you did...I have no words. Myself, I'd have to wear disposable undies and four or five extra pairs of pants! 😂 P.S. I am writing this at a hotel at the Amsterdam airport, stuck here for two days trying to get back to the States. Hopefully Delta can put me on a plane today! And you thought you had it tough. This COVID-19, and the conditions it causes, is a much tougher obstacle to navigate.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the compliments. I do all the video editing and music. And yes the right song matters

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you make it to the states safely! Be well!

@MrKozanitis

3 жыл бұрын

Prodigal Overland so do I! It is now 4:16 a.m and I got up two hours ago...stressing over this! Got to be at the airport in six hours.

@MrKozanitis

3 жыл бұрын

@Prodigal Overland, Just made it back to the States! Yesss.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Evan Hassiotis good stuff! How long are you here?

I was looking forward to hell's gate action.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

AgentOrange maybe next time 😬

I’m curious does yours have the adjust air ride like the overlander version does I just bought a 2017 grand Cherokee Overland, problem is it has 20” rims with 255/50/20’s so I need to ditch them and get the 17’s run a tire with a taller sidewall etc. I believe you know what I mean. I do notice with mine when I put it in the 4 x 4 rock mode I got like 6 inches more clearance than normal.

@ProdigalOverland

2 жыл бұрын

Yes we have the air suspension. When it’s it rock mode it goes to off road 2 which gives 2 extra inches of ground clearance. You can manually put it to off road 2 in any mode as well.

Just started watching your channel. It appears you do not air down your tires when going off road. That may help you gain more traction. Keep up the good videos👍.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, We do air down, Lately, Usually around 22 PSI. Thanks for Watching!

Good video! I think my WK2 will not be taking that trail any time soon. I am impressed that you made it with no damage. Did you get your windshield bottle repaired? Couldn't believe the rock stuck by your rear wheel. Take care

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Watching! And I was just looking at the bottle today. Not sure I'm gonna be able to repair it or not yet.

@MrKozanitis

3 жыл бұрын

@Frank Ashley, @Prodigal Overland, My thoughts and sentiments exactly!

As a WK2 owner I'm curious about the use of some of the features such as hill descent control, etc. Do you use them or just drive more manually. Its great to see a WK2 tackling these trails. Thanks.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thomas Wormsley I have tested the hill decent control. It works well. But I don’t use it very often. I tend to just drive more manually.

What a sweet trail! Did you go through the hells gate where it was off camber or did you bypass that? Would’ve been cool to see footage from that

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

We didn't do Hells gate. I had intended on it but. It is a bit more intimidating standing in front of it. Maybe next time through

Things I’ve done is my mall Jeep blows my mind 😜

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

rockybernina absolutely!

A few lines in there, could have been negotiated better. What did you think of the lower section. I actually found that to be the most technical section in my stock JKUR. No enough break over angle to just roll straight down those chunky rock steps. Had to use my flex to turn down all of them.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

The lower section was more than I thought it would be. But I was glad to be off of the fins! We made it down the last part without too much difficulty

@macmurfy2jka

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland yeah, the fins certainly were interesting. When I did it, I didn’t have a spotter. Rolling over those blind crests in the trail certainly was nerve wracking. You just kinda needed to trust the big black marks it the rock and your tires. In reality you’re WK2 is probably better set up for the chunky stuff with all the ground clearance you get with you independent suspension. I’ve said before, geometry is nice, but for most people who off-road ground (not rock crawling) clearance is better. If I could lend any advice, if not using a spotter or not have a very good one, that practice of walking the technical lines is good but doing so with your arms out like you’re pretending to be an airplane (simulating your vehicles track width) is better. It is very helpful for me to visualize where my wheels are gonna be. Obviously this works better for solid axle vehicles as the track width doesn’t change but is still helpful for vehicles with full independent suspension. My father has got a WK2. With a small lift, smaller rims, a modest tire diameter upgrade, good underbody protection, and nice fabbed bumpers would turn that into a weapon.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

@@macmurfy2jka Good stuff. Thanks for the comments

Watching Brad’s channel has restored my faith in the WK’s. I had the belief that they had just become soccer-mom mobiles in the last 10 years, but I’m being proved wrong. In this instance, I’m happy to be wrong ...

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

They certainly don’t have much of a reputation for being a by good off road. But I have been happy with what it can do!

ah great American outdoors ..!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!

I'm surprised that you don't have your gopro sending the video to your phone or tablet to allow you a better view over obstacles.

Not bad at all, pretty impressive. What’s the biggest tires you can fit on a GC? Does this have air ride? I don’t know much about these, I have an 04 LJ.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. It has a air lift system. I think 32 inch is pretty tight. Some have snuck in 33 with some trimming. We have 31.5 I think. 265 65 18

@ARXDMOS

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland if you level the front with airlinks 32 is perfect. running Falken wildpeaks AT3W 275/65/18 with no problems

Arwen and I are probably going to do this, Fins, and Top Of The World next summer or autumn. Probably not Poison Spyder. So thanks for giving us a preview of what we've got to look forward to. FCA's test folks put up a video of a prototype Trailhawk going up Hell's Gate, so it's definitely possible in a WK2. Looked easier than in a Rubicon from the line they took! One question, though. Did you find Hill Descent Control useful on any of these trails or did you just stick with Rock Mode and riding the brakes?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Peter Dougherty I was just in rock mode and foot control 😉

@W2IRT

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland Thanks! I got to use hill descent control a couple of weeks ago and it was an excellent tool, but I don't know if I'd trust my life to it on those narrow fins.

So I’ve noticed in my 2017 Trailhawk that the Quadra Drive 2 appears to only really function when not in 4 low. 4 low disengages traction control, which is what allows the front axle to use both wheels since there is no ELSD like in the rear. How I know this is I was stuck in sand out there and got out while still in drive, only 3 wheels were spinning in 4low

@srtabc123

3 жыл бұрын

To me that sounds like it was working. If a wheel is spinning freely the computer will apply the brake to just that tire to move the power to the other side that has more traction resulting in only 3 out of 4 tires spinning. The elsd uses an actuator to lock both sides together simulating a locker (it can still direct all power to 1 side or the other if it detects a rear wheel spinning) but the front should still simulate an lsd with the brakes. Limited slip is different than a true locker. True lockers would result in all 4 tires always spinning whereas the limited slip will direct the power to the wheel with traction. From what I’ve read the traction control doesn’t fully go off when in 4lo, it stays on to handle the lsd part.

@KMT15

3 жыл бұрын

SRTabc123 switching back to 4high, all 4 wheels were spinning. I was 100% buried and had to get towed out. Wish I could post a picture to this ha

@srtabc123

3 жыл бұрын

@@KMT15 a picture or video would really have been really beneficial here, sounds like you might need a trip to the dealership then. A guy on the forums used alphaOBD to see his transfer case and rear diff lock values and in 4lo his t-case and rear diff we’re both fully locked in any mode whereas in 4high the t-case never fully locked front to back and the rear diff only fully locked in sand and mud mode. In the forum thread it also talks about traction control mostly affects engine power and not the braking. The wheels spinning is controlled by the braking system separate from traction control. Hopefully the link to the forum works here. It’s a great read if you like technical stuff. www.jeepgarage.org/threads/how-the-elsd-on-quadra-drive-2-wk2s-is-more-of-a-locker-than-people-think.220617/#post-2021220086

@KMT15

3 жыл бұрын

SRTabc123 the transfer case and rear fully lock in 4low, as indicated in the off-road pages

I was looking forward to seeing you do hells gate but don't blame you 🤣

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking forward to seeing me do it as well! Till I stood in front of that thing. It certainly is enough to give a person pause. Thanks for watching!

@stephensmith3921

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen enough rigs break axles or rip off a mirrors to dissuade me from an attempt until I have a bit more disposable income😬

@fahdabdulaziz5067

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4aOzqWjmc-aprA.html This a video of WK 2 overland i believe doing it. In stock tires. I don't blame him of not going ahead. That shit is scary

@fahdabdulaziz5067

3 жыл бұрын

I think you need to get used to more momentum. I know it's scary and you get a feeling that you would hurt something. Nonetheless, great video as usual

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Fahd Abdulaziz yep. I realize this. I still have the plastic sump protection and transmission cover And obviously not the bumper guard. So on trails like this where I need more momentum. I have to balance that with the fact that my underbody lacked some protection. Fortunately we just got all that gear in. So I’m looking forward to getting it all on the Jeep. Then hit to the trails. Thanks for watching!

On my WK2, I put Continental TrerrainContact A/T

Wish the WK2 had front ELSD like WKs had would have made that one spot easier. Love my WK lol

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

It sure would have!

Was that a stock Grand Cherokee? Did you have any lifts or different tires?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

It was the stock air suspension. We have 265 65 18 tires.

Plus a lift kit.

You ever think to mount a front camera in the grill to see what's coming up?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

It would be nice to have a camera there. But I also have spotters when we go out.

what size tires on the JK?

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

35s or 37s. I forget which

COULD YOU MAYBE GET THE WIRELESS CAMERA PUT IT IN FRONT 🤔

So the truck went up about 4"+.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Thats a big lift!

Those are not stock tires on the WK2.

TERRAINCONTACT A/T - SIZE: 275/65R18

Hey man do you still have the WK2?

@ProdigalOverland

2 жыл бұрын

We sure do!

@KAREKINFPV

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland are yall based in CO? Im in CO springs. Im looking to kit mine out because its cheaper than getting a new one at the moment. What are the def underbody parts for doing engineer/imogen/corkscrew ect? I was looking at the cheef rock rails, front skid and hidden winch mount.

@ProdigalOverland

2 жыл бұрын

@@KAREKINFPV Do you have the air suspension?

@KAREKINFPV

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland yea 2017

By not taking the ladies you, I'm sure you definitely had a much more enjoyable ride.

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

A Meyers yes for sure. They would have been very unhappy!

Rubicon моя мечта только боюсь несбыточная!

@ProdigalOverland

3 жыл бұрын

Возможно, однажды!

@user-rx4bi7gx5x

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProdigalOverland не в нашей стране!!!