I’ve got a couple apple bananas waiting for you when you visit again🤙🏼

@DanBecker

2 жыл бұрын

Soon!!!

@TylerCampbellOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Heading to Maui later this year. Really looking forward to it

@shawnr6117

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanBecker scam messages are making the rounds again

@GustoStCool

2 жыл бұрын

@@DanBecker Is the contest win below valid?????

@boopernator

2 жыл бұрын

@@GustoStCool nope, it was some sort of scam. And that reply disappeared along with the KZread channel associated with the reply. Too bad I was sort of excited that I might have actually won something.

One thing you can do with the chair is put your whole backpack on it and then wrap your rain cover around the bag and chair. It keeps your pack off the ground in the rain.

@MFcoowaid-VODS

2 жыл бұрын

Yes amazing idea!

@normacasto8370

2 жыл бұрын

Best idea 👍👍

@amythinks

Жыл бұрын

Why is this the first time this fabulous idea has been mentioned? You know how many dang videos I've watched? Go start a channel!

@pedroclaro7822

Жыл бұрын

Dude… Woah!!

@SophisticatedDogCat

Жыл бұрын

Or just put it under your vestibule…

To prevent this type of chair from sinking, I bought silicone coasters to put under each foot. I store them in a ziplock sandwich bag that I keep in the chair bag. They work like a charm to minimize the legs sinking into mud/sand/soft dirt. They weigh next to nothing, are cheap, they keep your char “feet” clean, and the ziplock bags keeps your chair clean.

@rjflippo

Жыл бұрын

Stripping bark from a dead tree is a great solution to save one room in a pack.

@aaronfuentes5919

Жыл бұрын

chair sinkage is a blessing. use a controlled sink for nice recline action, & find a footrest.

@pedroclaro7822

Жыл бұрын

I heard of a guy who uses the bottom of pop cans, and since I tried it I like nothing else.

The legs sinking into the ground is why I went with the Helinox Ground Chair. 5 ounces heavier, doesn't sink into the ground, but it is lower to the ground and not as easy to get in and out of. Because it sits so low you can use it inside some tents, which is handy if you are waiting out a storm and tired of laying down.

I went with the Big Agnes over the Helinox as the big agnes didn't use plastic joints, I felt long term that would be the way to go. Love a lot of your pointers on your channel.

Happy 20th Anniversary, Dan and to your understanding wife. You picked an awesome place to hike and explore! As far as the Helinox Chair Zero - I got rid of 2 tripod stools which weighed 2.5 lbs. for the lighter, more compact Chair Zero for me and my husband. He's 6'4", 244 lbs. and can still use this chair without breaking it. We always hike/backpack with them and won't do any hiking without them. Let the people laugh as they will be the first ones to want to sit in it at camp, LOL! 😂😉

Thanks for representing the proper system of measurement, Matt. Great vids.

Zero is ridiculously lightweight. But I got the chair two for the head support and will happily carry the extra weight to be able to fully relax at the end of the day.

One of The reasons why the helinox is so successful , is they have a patent on the horizontal bar. Other companies use the other version. Until that patent runs out or a new design comes out, they'll be king. The REI style is just so heavy because of the material and durability needed

I was always against taking a chair when backpacking, but then REI had a sale and I got a Flexlight Air camp chair for 50$. Needless to say I bring it everywhere now haha. So worth the extra pound. I’d love a Helinox Chair but they are super pricey.

With all of your excellent advice I successfully completed my first solo backpacking trip. My Bryce tent held up great in the wind, thunderstorm and brief hail. I schlepped my MEC (like REI) chair which is 2.5 lbs. I was glad to have it, but I ordered the zero chair when I got home. Of course it’s more expensive here in Canada, but totally worth it as far as I’m concerned. So I’m glad you didn’t say there is something better. I’m also going to carry less water to reduce more weight. Again thanks for your honest advice and reviews.

@debbilermond1553

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely LOVE my Chair Zero too! Well worth the price to get the weight down in my pack and actually have a back rest! I know some people like to be higher off the ground but I like being low enough to stretch my legs out like a chaise lounge. It's not for everybody but it sure is the best for some of us, right? 😉

A good addition to the Helinox chair is Helinox Ball feet Vibram set (4). So chair feet wont sink into mud, sand...soft ground.

@rjflippo

Жыл бұрын

I just strip bark off of a dead tree to accomplish this.

I have and love my chair zero. One alternative that I've found is more comfortable is the Big Agnes Skyline UL chair. It is a bit more expensive and also weighs about 9 or 10 ounces more, but it sits far higher. This make is MUCH easier to stand up when your quads are done. My dad got this one and it makes me a bit jealous when he sets it up at camp.

@rebekkahmartin9426

2 жыл бұрын

My husband has the zero and I have the skyline. The skyline is faaaarrrr more comfortable.

@Paulskit

2 жыл бұрын

@@rebekkahmartin9426 It's not a big problem to find a chair more comfortable than helinox zero. But all of them are heavier which defeats the purpose.

@aaronfuentes5919

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Paulskit 'get out gear' trek chair is 1.4lb highback chair. it's a winner in my book... high back or NOTHING!

@Michaellock32

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronfuentes5919 try 2.4 lbs. Sounded good though

@aaronfuentes5919

Жыл бұрын

@@Michaellock32 walking poles are 1.1lb & the chair portion is 1.4. & I think the back might be slightly taller than the chair zero highback. You're correct, but I think it still may be as light as chair zero highback& walking poles.

Happy anniversary Dan! My Helinox chair purchase was heavily influenced by you, so thanks for that too.

I love mine. It’s definitely a good luxury to have while on the trail

Congrats! Happy anniversary!

It's a great chair. I rode the length of the Rhine this spring on a bicycle camping tour, 1,000 miles, and I'm very happy I took my Helinox chair.

Love the Big agnes mica basin! Sits higher and much more comfortable. A little extra weight (and price) but well worth it after a long hike.

I tested the Helinox and REI Flexlite Air in store for hours and ended up getting the REI chair. It is UNDER a pound - not over - with its stuff sack, cost HALF the price ($60), and is noticeably more comfortable and stable. The Helinox is definitely made of slightly higher quality materials but the REI one feels durable enough. I've used it for weeks as a regular chair in my room; it's that good. Highly recommend!

@EvanK2EJT

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I ended up doing the exact same thing and coming to the same conclusion as you did.

@ja2ui0

2 жыл бұрын

Adding my voice to the chorus. I think the helinox is marginally better, but not for the price. The flexlite air is excellent and meets the price to performance criteria for me hands down.

@jonhunt8270

2 жыл бұрын

I got two. For less than 1 the Helinox

@loreng.tindall1151

2 жыл бұрын

Just for the record the actual price on the REI site as of 08/03/22 is $100... it was on special for REI members for a short time in July, I think. Still, a good chair and $30 less than the Helinox. I love mine.

@ja2ui0

2 жыл бұрын

@@loreng.tindall1151 I got mine for $50 in July, and at that price, it's a steal.

Started my backpacking experience with a group of old timers who all had 1 lb Sling Lights, the UL chair gold standard IMHO. Ended up getting one off eBay and it did the job but wasn't that comfortable for my 6'6" size and it didn't pack well. Tried the Helinox and happily set the Sling Light free. My buddy fixed the sinking legs with 3D printed feet. Content so far with the Helinox.

Nice long-term review of a great product. I really enjoyed your ...Bros. imitation at the end :)

I use a Helinox Ground Chair so I can still sit on the chair while inside my tent. I also found the Ground Chair to be more comfortable as a seat than the Chair Zero.

Seniors may benefit from this tip. The Ground Zero puts your knees well above your hips, making it difficult to get out of. My technique is (1) turn and straddle a corner of the chair by putting one leg over the side, (2) get your heels under your butt, (3) use the non-straddled corner and the back top corner on the side your leg went over as hand-holds, (4) lift your butt up and (5) straighten your legs. Try it at home to see how it works, and listen to your body to avoid hurting yourself. We've owned our two for several years now.

@DariusFLX

2 жыл бұрын

@Dan Becker is this you?

Congrats on your 20th anniversary! We just got back from Maui two days ago celebrating our 13th! Too bad we didn't run into you!

I ended up going with the Skyline UL Chair by Big Agnes myself. Weight wise - it's a bit more and I get people counting every ounce might not be into it. But it's higher off the ground which is SO much more comfortable for my knees after a long day. That was the selling point for me - and I use the thing all the time as it fits into the hard bag of my Harley easily as well.

@tategilchrist

Жыл бұрын

Skyline UL chair is awesome. Use mine all the time. I got a chap out of Georgia from Goosefeet Gear to make me a little custom down underquilt for it. You just slide it on the legs before you put it together, and there is some small cord that you wrap around the corners of the fabric. It makes sitting in the chair, even when it is not super cold out, nice and toasty. Has extended my nighttime winter star-gazing time substantially, as I am not sitting on my down pants and jacket, and compressing them to the point where they do not insulate. He even made it the same color (yellow) as my Skyline. Pic of it in his IG, if you want to see it. Was a really great addition. Cheers.

@E_Clampus_Vitus

Жыл бұрын

I’ve got the Skyline and I really like it. Now, I need to check out this chair at REI. I can actually quit this addiction to sporting goods anytime I want to. Just not right now.

As a big guy I have destroyed many chairs.. the zero held its own for a bit but succumbed. I am now rocking a Big Agnes & it is a tank, not much more weight & a high back to boot - best part = no pastic to destroy.

Thanks for this video Dan..been debating whether I should get this chair or not but atleast now I have a better idea.

I’d have my Zero for many years now and I love it, but Helinox recently released the Chair zero highback, which is 6 oz heavier but lets you rest your head…. Really tempting to upgrade.

Emit’s editing is BUSSIN BUSSIN👌😎🔥

Happy Anniversary!!!🥂🍾 I’m a forever Chair Zero, I’m not sure how any company could make a better chair.

@Lv4_o2

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t enter, Mr Bot/NotDanBecker.🙄

You are blessed to be able to travel to such places do it as long as you can

I have been binging your channel for days now and I have learned two things, gear has changed a lot over the past 6 years since I backpacked, and you sir… are John Krasinskis doppelgänger.

Such a fun episode. Beautiful cinematography to match the oscar-worthy performance Haha, thanks for video! *For anybody shopping for backpacking chairs, and as Dan mentioned, the REI options are not terrible at all. The Helinox is unmatched in weight but of course it is rather pricy. I bought 2 REI Flexlite chairs, each weighing 1 lb 11 oz, and I had found them for 50% off during the REI summer sale. So I spent under $80 for both. And of course there exists the Flexlite air chairs, which are even lighter at 1 lb. So for anybody not trying to break their bank over a single chair, I recommend staying vigilant on possible sales if you're willing to be patient!

@samketchum406

2 жыл бұрын

Flexlite Air is same weight and 99.00

@feliperivas3814

2 жыл бұрын

@@samketchum406 yep, you’re right. Thought it was slightly lighter. Good mention.

There is a new hiker chair from Korean band Zerogram, made in carbon fibre, weigh only 580g but with much bigger , higher and comfortable size.

Just bought 2 of the REI chairs because they were 50% off. For $50 totally worth it!

Happy anniversary!!!

Helinox Ground is even better, had it for a year and its really proper amazing could sit hours on it

years ago i bought the sunset. it was really a big amount for such a light thing, but i still use it and i had never a problem with it and i has to fight against my 120kg. it was the only chair so far which didnt break at the joints or fabric.

Well today is my 7th anniversary. Unfortunately I'm between jobs so no backpacking until I get a new career. But it's the first thing I'm doing. I haven't had a backpacking chair yet but I definitely want one. Thanks for the info!

For me personally, the Nemo Moonlite is the better pick - yes its heavier (12oz) but tbh its way more comfortable and the game changer for me is the reclining feature. And since im a bigger guy it was a no brainer for me because its weight capacity is around 300 pounds. Just ordered another one for my wife.

@williekenk

2 жыл бұрын

We did the same. Just found it much more comfy and and the extra weight capacity was good piece of mind. I’m within capacity for the chair zero, but I could feel by butt hitting the frame based on how I was seated. No issues with that in the Nemo.

Ahh Islands covered in lush, green vegetation and beautiful tropical forests, only trouble is they need quite a bit of rain and therefore clouds and mist! Great chair though, I have one myself, might have been your recommendation. I bought the ground mat with it to stop it sinking.

I'm sure you know, but the Helinox Ground Chair does not sink into the ground like the Chair Zero, and it only weighs a tiny bit more. That being said, I have both and as a weight weanie, I bring the Chair Zero on trips 😆

I have the REI 1lb chair. Bought it on sale and with dividends; 70 bucks. I swear by it. I also have the 3lb knock off for around 30 bucks. Same design, heavy and the back doesn't breathe. But great for base camp or other car activities.

Go for the Chair 2 with the padded liner add on (for chilly nights) SOOOO comfortable. The headrest makes ALL the difference. Won't go without it.

Happy aniv., Dan, from Seoul Korea where Heliknox's HQ(which is the same company makes DAC poles for numerous tents and so on)is. I believe Helinox started this chair's popularity but the initial design concept and idea came from a company called Alite, not sure they were collabative or still in business.

I’ve been using a off brand camping chair from Amazon. It’s 1.5lbs and my wife and I pack ours to the beach as well as on camping trips. We got them both 2 for 50$ a couple years ago.

I see you with the Peak Design backpack, I have the light gray one and I love it

THIS! is one of my creature comfort’s I’m bringing with me on the AT 😁

New subscriber! I like this guy.

Chair Zero Highback and Chair Zero XL. Helinox came out with these recently. The highback is incredible. I sold my OG Chair Zero to get that one

Big Agnes chairs! Metal joints, large diameter tubing, variety of sizes.

Happy almost Anniversary!

Matt should know as a Canadian that a pound is 454 g. They still sell meat and stuff in pounds but labelled in grams. Happy anniversary!

I don’t have one yet and yes it weighs almost two pounds, but I found the Nemo Moonlight significantly more comfortable. My first thought as I settled into it was that it was the most comfortable chair of any kind I’d ever sat in. I’d be interested to see your review.

@Smuddpie

Жыл бұрын

I thought it would be the way to go, too but found those straps on the side cut into my arms and decided it wasn't with the weight. I had a Helinox, the Moonlite and the $40 knock off from Amazon for a couple weeks and kept debating. The Zero was honestly the least comfortable, the $40 the most. In the end, I decided all were miles more comfortable than no chair and weight mattered the most because I've already opted for a lux/heavy sleep system.

@ethridgechad

Жыл бұрын

I love the Moonlight chair! Think it is very well made.

Dude... everyone always wants to sit in your chair. This is so true! I was a scoutmaster for 5 years, and this statement cannot be farther from the truth. Even when you repeatedly tell everyone to bring their own (and you know they all have chairs).

cool video! :) just ordered the ground chair.

Happy Anniversary!

I just bought one moment ago , Exactly like the one you have I can't wait to take it on the trip this weekend, I was that guy that Set on foam pads aso , time for one

you're funny Dan, watching I even forgot you are doing a chair review ;)

Unrelated to the topic. Back in the day, there were two words, envious and jealous. Jealous was used exclusively to describe matters of the heart and love. Nowadays it seems that envious has been discarded and jealous is used for everything. She's jealous because women text me. She's jealous of her sisters... hair. Weird to me, normal to a younger crowd. Great video. Unbiased review.

I have the Helonix Chair Zero and REI Flex Lite Air chair. The REI chair is actually 2oz lighter than the Helonix.... I’m 6’3”, 190lbs and prefer the REI chair... ✌🏻

@Dan Becker - Love the informational content!! Would be cool to see more trips!! I Have the REI Flexlite Air and it is pretty comfortable. I actually bought the Helinox Chair Zero first and found that it cut into my thighs a bit. Loved it otherwise, the tried the Flexlite Air and it was a bit more comfy in that section. Both are great lightweight chairs for sure!!!

i have the mat for that chair and i does help a lot. if you can wait when its cheaper,do so,couse it cost alot,like the chair it self

I just have the REI Flexlite regular, the $69 1lb11oz one. And I was proud of that purchase after trying the 3 pound Ozark trail “backpacking” chair. Yikes! The Ozark trail was very stable and solid I’ll credit that but sooooo heavy!!!

The company Grand Trunk just re-released the discontinued Alite chairs on their website. Would love to hear your take on them vs. the Helinox and other backpacking chairs. Thanks!

I can’t wait to see you bring a few of these to the PCT northern terminus to meet Kyle Hates Hiking & Co.

You want a better chair? As you mentioned, here is a better chair: REI Co-op Flexlite Air Chair. Its essentially the same thing (the recline angle is slightly different than the helinox), but less expensive. It is $99 full price, but it goes on sale regularly through REI brand coupons or other deals.

Happy Anniversary Dan.

It is a great chair! Love it!

There's a cool "hack" video here on the KZreads that shows how you can actually make that leg support "basket" (for lack of a better word) that keeps the chair from sinking. Bonus: it can actually take the place of the stuff sack for the chair. It's just made from old vinyl tarp material and gorilla tape. Pretty cool stuff. As always, great and funny vid Dan. You're a natural.

@Doc_Watson

2 жыл бұрын

Justin had a genius idea with that sandmat/stuff sack DIY.

@scottyplug

2 жыл бұрын

@@Doc_Watson Which Justin?

@Doc_Watson

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottyplug Justin from It's Good in the Woods.

@scottyplug

2 жыл бұрын

@@Doc_Watson yes!! That’s the one!

I love my chair for backpacking (REI Flexlite Air). It is a pound, I can deal with that for the wonderful blessing of a soft seat, not a rock or log, at the end of a day of walking. I bought it because I was able to get it for like $60, half of what the Helinox costs (i am cheap). I've investigated carbon poles to replace the aluminum ones, and a lighter fabric for the seat body (excluding the corners). It is not going to get much lighter than 1lb though, and the chair will be even less robust than the Zero or the Air, so yeah, yet another niche product.

Buy once cry once. I left my chair at home once on a trip and regretted it as soon as I got to camp. I will probably get the highback zero someday.

Glad you mentioned weight. I have a Mtn Equipment COOP chair that weighs a kilo. Haven't packed with it yet, but pretty comfortable.

@karenpolansky9097

2 жыл бұрын

I also have the MEC chair that I took with me last weekend. Needless to say, I ordered the zero when I got home. The MEC is more comfortable, but it’s 1 1/2 lbs heavier. My back and shoulders/hips will be much happier next time with the zero. MEC are out of stock on the Zeros, but I found one at Frontenac Outfitters north of Kingston, Ontario.

@filmic1

2 жыл бұрын

@@karenpolansky9097 Excellent!

As a bigger guy, 6’5” and 265… I don’t feel comfortable with a chair I am maxing out. I carry a cheap hitorhike 3.5 lb chair that has a full back rest and can accommodate up to 350 lbs. The extra weight and size is well worth the comfort, to me.

Anyone looking for this chair but hesitant at the $149 price point, Campmor has it on sale for $119 right now! (3/30/2024) Plus free shipping in the US. I finally pulled the trigger on it.

This chair has made it into our living room for the kids playing or watching TV, it’s always occupied😂, even our Dog loves it, I have custom UnderQuilt for it, the Best!

I noticed the chair digging into the ground too ... I carry 4 "1900 " electrical Box covers to give feet something to set on

Hey Dude - get some Chair Buddies to keep your chair from sinking into the dirt. So great. They’re a set of 4 individual landing pads that clip to each of the feet.

Those are great chairs. REI chair for 1 lb is the best bang for the buck.

I recently got the REI chair, weight is 15 oz. with out the bag. And I got it on a sale for $65.

That's some crispy video. What's your favorite bp chair?

Other options for people looking: - Grand Trunk Compass stool - Eno sub7 hammock + UL straps

Absolutely zero (no pun intended) regrets buying my chair zero! Worth every £££ at the end of a long day :)

i found the REI Flexlite Air Chair to be a little more comfortable vs the Helinox. Could be due to other factors (body weight, type, etc.)

I bought the ground sheet $35.00, the chair cover $65.00 (which is awesome because I can wrap it around my therm-a-rest pillow...super comfy!). So, I'm in total like $230 bucks. Totally worth it! No regerts!

@GustoStCool

2 жыл бұрын

@Dan Becker Is this valid?????

Stansport has a 1 lb $30 folding stool. Fits atop a backpack. It's what Shug uses. Then there's the collapsible Hillsound 3 legged BTR stool for about $60 and weighs under a pound. Helinox is the only lightweight chair with a backrest.

I bought the Sierra Madre Air Chair and on my scale it's 24.5 ounces in the stuff sack for $90 or so. I wish I would have got the Zero for the extra money to save some weight. But I'll always bring a chair.

REI Flexlite Air is the way to go. 1 lb. More comfy. And you can get it for about $60 during the member sales on REI products .

Chair Zero L out now for the win! 685 grams. Chair One frame with Chair Zero seat. Extra seat height is great for a 6' 2" hiker.

Dan have you tried the Big Agnes skyline UL chair?

I took my Chair Zero on vacation with me because… why not? It fits in my 16L daypack and weighs hardly anything 👍🏻

I absolutely love Maui. Have a great time there.

It would be awesome if someone made a DCF or Ultra 200 seat replacement for the Chair Zero. I bought the REI Flexlite Air Chair last month when it was on sale for $50, but I still prefer the Chair Zero. Do not buy the Flexlite Air Chair at regular price to save a few bucks (compared to the Chair Zero). It's not worth it.

@Lizzybeth1973

2 жыл бұрын

Hilltop Packs makes DCF bags for the chair… maybe they will start making DCF seat covers?

@rgmALC

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like DCF would instantly rip

@82300sd

2 жыл бұрын

@@rgmALC DCF is up to 15 times stronger than steel, unless you have a pocket knife sticking out of your back pocket, how would it rip?

@rgmALC

2 жыл бұрын

@@82300sd There’s plenty of people who have poked holes in their tarps with a Ridgerunner setup due to the poles and they aren’t sharp. Yeah it’s really strong (I’ve never ripped my DCF tarp), but the seams would have to be sewn not tapped, reinforced as well, just like the material on chairs already. DCF would hold you, but probably rip on the four corners. I’ve seen people rip the ridgeline on tarps because they pull it too taut.

@aaalllen

2 жыл бұрын

@@rgmALC DCF isn't good on the stretching diagonally, so it might not work out long term

I recently changed from Helinox Zero, after like 6 years, due to that Helinox Zero basically blown away and been burned couple of times. I have the accesories for it to, and the problem is that is expensive. I recently tried the Kilos Outdoor chairs and I must say Im not going back.

it's not poisonous...not right away...LMAO!!!

I just use a stool. 1lb. Now the Helinoc lite cot was a game changer for me.

I went to Kauai last summer and OMG apple bananas literally changed my life! I need to go back just for the bananas!

Tip to not let your chair blow away.... erect frame slide stuff bag over frame add seat then put rocks or something heavy in the bag and your chair will not blow into the fire

I have hiked for at least five years with same $32, 1.9 pound chair with leg extenders to sit higher, whenever weight is not critical and comfort is. To stop the legs from sinking in the ground I found a simple cheap solution. I took practice 4 plastic golf balls and cut a small X into each. A ball was stuck on the end of each leg, problem solved. Same chair, same golf balls equals comfort at the end of the day five years running.

Have you checked out the Helinox Chair Zero High Back? I enjoy my chair zero and was excited to see they have a high back version now.