Heavily tuned Fiat 128 SOHC Race Engine First Start
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
This engine will power a vintage Fiat 128 race car that should definitely be capable of holding its ground in the italian historic racing championship.
The glorious FIAT SOHC engine powered a host of cars over the years like the Fiat 128, Regata, Ritmo, Punto mk1, Uno, Tipo, Tempra, X1/9 etc. Add some kugelfischer style mechanical injection, slide throttles and the sound becomes rather interesting! Too bad they didn't rev it all the way to its 10k rpm redline.
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this engine builders are genius , listen the clear sound and the response on the throttle amazing work
@TheDementedMonkeys
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'll gladly pass the compliment on to them :)
Lovely motor, revs super clean and sounds strong!
I could listen to this all day, beautiful.
@TheDementedMonkeys
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
Looks super clean! But at 0:50 - injector (3) isnt spraying properly like the others or is it just me?
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
You have sharp eyes!
@Owuryn
5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same.
@clotm4a1
5 жыл бұрын
yup
@sup3rbird
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, first thing I noticed. No 3 isn't atomising as well as the others.
@siclt1
5 жыл бұрын
I was just about to say this
A Turkish car (Tofaş Şahin) was powered by the 1.4 and 1.6 liter versions of this engine as well, actually, I drive one with the 1.4 liter version.
@TheDementedMonkeys
3 жыл бұрын
Cool! A similar engine was also used in some russian cars :)
That actually sounds very nice. Not horribly loud or lope-y, but a nice smooth rasp.
@TheDementedMonkeys
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Keep in mind that it was kept below 4k rpm in the video. At 10k it's as loud and obnoxious as any other race engine :)
that looks very flammable
@mk6315
5 жыл бұрын
If its not capable of killing you its not as fun
@Jonathan_Doe_
5 жыл бұрын
Plenty of Ducati’s run shower injectors like this, it’s totally safe as long as there’s an enclosed air box or plenum around it, and even with it out in the open, as long as the engines running pretty much all the fuel vapours getting pulled straight in so it’s not quite as dangerous as it looks.
@djmystery7235
5 жыл бұрын
Eduardo J it do
@palebluedot285
5 жыл бұрын
Here let me light up your ciggar
@thebiggsfix6987
5 жыл бұрын
Hope that thing dosent back fire
That fuel rail/nozzle setup is really cool. Never seen that before. 👍🏼👍🏼
@Alex-xl4xe
5 жыл бұрын
It looks cool in this version but in reality, when pushing the pedal (or whatever they had here) you can see quite some fuel escaping into the atmosphere.
@lordofrims
5 жыл бұрын
I've seen it in a F1 engine test by Renault.
@tamer27antepli
5 жыл бұрын
Haha imagine the smell
@lordofrims
5 жыл бұрын
Here is the Renault F1 test with clear sight of the injectors kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5-MmsOsnNjbfso.html
@skidmark7119
5 жыл бұрын
Guy on right looks like he is holding in a turd!
sounds sharp, great job guys
Those lampredi sohc’s are dope. I’m building a 1300 with 11.7:1 CR, kugelfischer, 290 or 316 cam with 11.2mm lift, and some lightening. My x1/9 is probably gonna catch on fire, but it don’t matter if it sounds like an f1 engine behind my head
@andrefixa
Жыл бұрын
In family we have a fiat 128 with a 1100cc SOHC engine, It has so much torque!
@Slaydur
Жыл бұрын
@@andrefixa they’re small, but have way more torque than bike swaps most the time. I’d love to get a Dallara 16v head one day are really make it breathe
@andrefixa
Жыл бұрын
@@Slaydur they are really compact engines, very reliable and they dont consume a lot!
@user-wn9pk2be7k
11 ай бұрын
@@andrefixaдумаю что 1.5 л двигатель SOCH 75 л.с один из самых лучших в линейке моторов Лампреди. хотелось бы узнать ставился ли такой двигатель на модели Лянча? спасибо
@andrefixa
11 ай бұрын
Я не русский поэтому пользуюсь переводчиком от гугла, я просто фанат фиата 128 и мне 15 лет, не знаю устанавливался ли он на ланчии.
Favoloso !!!!! Averlo avuto sulla mia 128 a 19 anni.....
this is what i call art. the kugelfischer injection system look very dangerous, wasting fuel.but with some modification like puting some custom air filter.i think the engine is ready for an action
Sounds so smooth
pure amazing clear sound
That's a cool lil motor. Love to see it running in something.
Que Maravilha... um belíssimo trabalho... linda sinfonia em marcha lenta 👏👏👏 parabéns
Thats interesting fuel injection system
That header looks sick
Better than eating fresh pasta and drinking fine red wine! This would fit very nicely in our x1/9 ;)
@TheDementedMonkeys
7 жыл бұрын
Accidental poetry! Better than eating pasta and drinking red wine this would fit nicely in our fiat x1\9!
@phoghat
7 жыл бұрын
no it's not. good, but not that good
@peterfitzpatrick7032
5 жыл бұрын
Had an X1/9 in my youth .... loved it !! With the pop-up h/lights & the removable hardtop it was magical & quite the eye-catcher at the time !! 👍😎☘
C'è L'ho duro dal bel suono. Wow complimenti bel motore, fluidissimo.
Lovley little machining details like the ink. rail and alt. bracket. Needs to have load on it though
ya squirt the juice directly into the wide open throat - how naughty is that? The beautifullest injection construction I ever saw!
Hi a see your another video were I see yours Fiat 128 with over fenders. My question is do you have for sell those overs fenders. Thanks
@TheDementedMonkeys
6 жыл бұрын
They are selling them on their website. I ended my relationship with this shop after too many mishaps that delayed an engine rebuild and had me lose an entire season.
I must admit that sound from this engine killing me !
I subbed, nice vid! I like fiat engines
Looks so cool
sounds awesome 👍
Muy lindo trabajo. Saludos de Uruguay donde se puede ver mas ?
spettacolare.
@TheDementedMonkeys
7 жыл бұрын
Grazie!
having the injectors exposed tat way incresse perfomrance?... are the injectors stand on the open or under the hood?
@TheDementedMonkeys
6 жыл бұрын
Putting the injectors on top of the velocity stacks improves the fuel's spray pattern. They are still kept under the hood and, fire risks aside, provide that little extra "omph" when compared to engines that have the injectors on the side! There's an old video of a renault f1 engine sporting a similar configuration: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2adpMSwn8a_ito.html
@MrHBSoftware
5 жыл бұрын
have you ever driven or raced a car with 2x dual 50mm webers and a very lumpy camshaft with big overlap??? the amount of fuel spilled is way way way way bigger than with this especially at idle
@zelashizzz1278
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrHBSoftware I have an 89 Honda Accord with dual 45 Webers on it and can attest to that statement lol
Good for teaching
Great Soud !!!
Saludos desde ecuador q hermoso motor los felicito xfas muestren mas selo pido bendiciones
Oddly satisfying... :3 👍
That motor sound fucking gorgeous!
amazing this job
what happen with 3rd injector? cheers from Indonesia
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
It probably needed to be cleaned :)
Hi. I was wondering if you can help me in tuning my own sohc engine in a Tempra. I want to install a stroker kit to increase displacement to 1.9 from 1.6 as well as add a higher flowing head, larger intake valves and a sporty cam while retaining its orginal carburettor and daily drivabillity. I hope to at least make twice the stock power (originally its 86 hp so maybe 172 ?) or possibly even hit 200 hp with good quality headers. What is your opinion on such a setup or what advice you can give me on the sohc ? Thanks in advance.
@TheDementedMonkeys
3 жыл бұрын
I could probably build it for you :) However forget about reaching 200hp on a 1.9l 8v engine without extensive modifications that would kill its driveability and with a stock carburettor. 150hp sounds like a more realistic goal :) However i'd probably look into swapping some more modern engine with a decent ECU. Carbs suck!
Just curious, why are you guys using mechanical FI instead of electronic? Since the injector is spraying down the stack, and butterflies may be closed or partially open, does that cause AF ratio problems? Looks and sounds great!
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
historic and vintage car racing competitions have some restrictions. Engine wise it's usually only possible to use systems that were available at the time.
It looks really good, 295º camshaft? have you dynoed it? never tried with a so long header, and just a thought you are having too much oil pressure commonly happens when the aux camshaft its too tight, hope you polished the oil pressure relief valve, anyway it looks really good, congratulations hope you upload more videos, greetings from argentina
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
Hello! I'm sorry I cannot give you any more information on the engine. Unfortunately i cut my ties with the tuners in questions after they were unable to deliver on their promises as far as my engines and cars were concerned.
Whats that thing spraying??? Is it open compustion???
que lindo que suena , muestren un poco mas del motor
Que ronco mais gostoso de ouvir ,é esse saindo do escapamento.
nice video
How are the intake air temps with the header basically touching the ITB’s
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
This type of engine flows enough air to make the exhaust location a non-issue.
Que locura x Dios!! Pase más info o link para saber más de ese sistema!! Lo felicito 👏👏
@Loscala1995
Жыл бұрын
Estuve averiguando sobre ese sistema de inyección y es raro y bastante indocumentado (más para hispanohablantes como nosotros) Si gustás en investigar acerca de este sistema de inyección, se llama "kugelfischer pump" Suerte!
sounds sweet
Amazing work! I notice it isn't a crossflow head- is that a constraint of the racing regulations?
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Damn rulebooks. It's also impossible to adopt a crossflow configuration on a oem head and having a custom head built from scratch requires too much money and effort... at that point it becomes cheaper to adapt a different 16v, dohc head from fiat :)
that shower setting looks awesome!
that 4-1 manifold looks kinda funky why are the split like that? 4 in row instead of 4 in a square?
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
Space constraints. It's a transverse engine installed on a FWD car.
Spray pattern is not correct on one of the injectors! what type of injection is this?kugelfischer?
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
It's a Kugelfischer injection system. 100% mechanical. One injector was in need of a rebuild :)
and whant kind of injectors are thoes?
Lo mas increible es que acelere y el tacometro no se mueva jajajaja
How much Horsepower/cavallo/ps?
Wow how cool is that, that motor was originally carburetered? I love it .
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
Indeed it was!
que tipo de inyectores son?
@TheDementedMonkeys
6 жыл бұрын
Kugelfischer
This injectors are like "gicles" (jets)? Whats control the pulse? A "master" injector ?
@TheDementedMonkeys
4 жыл бұрын
I reckon the kugelfischer runs on a mechanical fuel pump that also works as a fuel distributor but i may be wrong :)
they didn't rev it to its 10k red line without a load because doing that is stupid
@huntergman8338
5 жыл бұрын
But it would be awesome.
@africanelectron751
5 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck someone who understands!!!!
@RabeaHussain
5 жыл бұрын
engine needs Cum?
@jhndijkman
5 жыл бұрын
No problem with revs, I had a mostly standard head a blocked 128 SL coupe. Pretty little coupe. I took it to 8000 to 8500 RPM frequently. Cant kill them with a stick. But the standard will elongate valves eventually. they stretch with the constant high revs.
That engine sounds so good! Do you have specs?
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
I wrote them somewhere in the comments. I went NC with these tuners after they botched 2 jobs one after the other leaving me without cars for years.
Question why put the injectors there? Wouldn't be better has direct port? I mean that looks cool
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
That was the best possible system back then and vintage racers have to adhere to certain rules that mandate period correct parts.
always wondered why people dont put the injectors above the throttle blades on injected engines more often. atomizes and cools fuel amazingly well.
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
Fire hazards, puddling when travelling at constant part throttle, more fire hazards etc :)
Brilliant car
Aonde eu encontro uns bicos desses ai
Di che strumento musicale si tratta....????..... grande maestro MITTIGA....!!!👉💯🏁
Im from Brazil and our neighbours at argentina are experts at tuning these sohc fiats to honda power levels, when im 18 i plan to build a fiat uno making 130whp and i have one question, is this engine the "sevel" 1.6 engine?
@TheDementedMonkeys
2 жыл бұрын
First of all i wish you the best of luck with your first engine build! To answer your question: no, this is a SOHC 1.6 engine from a fiat 128. I'd say it's the great grandfather of the sevel engine :)
Из какой машины этот двигатель?
Using the 85-90 hp 1600 SOHC motors as points of reference, how easily can they be fettled in road-going spec to match the 105-108 hp 1600 Twin-Cam engines used in the Ritmo/Strada 105TC and Delta 1.6 GT? Would 100-110 hp for a 1600 SOHC be a realistic target?
@TheDementedMonkeys
Жыл бұрын
It's not too hard and should actually require only minor tuning and some decent parts ;)
Que lindo !
Acho que esse motor é o mesmo que a FPT Brasil usa atualmente, FIRE!
@G.Suzuman
4 жыл бұрын
This is not the engine called FIRE, it's called Tipo from the 90's. Fire was from the 2000's, and now is the engines called FIREFLY.
@gabrielgomes9710
4 жыл бұрын
@@G.Suzuman Yes, name in Brazil is SEVEL argentino
Hmmmm,,,, don't know much about the SOHC engine,,but with that much inlet manifold i'd be using the DOHC engine,1800 i had was alright in a light car,,mind mine was the older design with the dizzie driven by aux shaft,,like the Datsun 1600 engine had to time oil pump to set up dizzie,,still don't know why aux shaft had to be set at 37 1/2 degs of top dead centre,, and i agree,,with the rest of them No 3 is looking lean,,,,
How are the injectors excited ? I see no electrical connection ?
@tomassosaoconnor
4 жыл бұрын
They are mechanically turned on by the fuel pressure itself. It works the same way as a diesel injection system, but without being direct injection
wow that is cool, how are the injectors controlled since they do not seem electric
@TheDementedMonkeys
7 жыл бұрын
Kugelfischer fuel injection! It's a mechanical injection system used on some pretty neat cars like many old porsches, bmw 2002 tii etc.
@CoolCarVideo
7 жыл бұрын
Cool Thanks!
@bobl78
6 жыл бұрын
old mechanical shit... like the whole engines.. Italians can make good food but not good cars
@Limou551
6 жыл бұрын
many new racing cars use old mechanic injection sytem.
just 128 for all of that mod ?
Never seen injectors done like that
Explain long air inlet, please.
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
Intake length affects the powerband\tq curve.
Che bella musica .
Always thought intake injection looked cool, portal soundtrack.
Losing fuel out of the stacks off throttle. Pretty lumpy fuel coming out of the injectors too. Should be a screamer once you get it all sorted with the valves.
Beautiful! I was at your home page and wondered what tunes and cost can be done to an engine for road use? Key would be itb and at least 100-130 hp. But I couldn't find any info. I would to know an estimate. Btw we love to see a clip of a car in action with your engine mods. Cheers!
@TheDementedMonkeys
Жыл бұрын
100-130hp can be achieved for roughly 5-6k :)
@tolinanelda2448
Жыл бұрын
@@TheDementedMonkeys thank you for the quick reply! Alright that includes for the parts and work/labour? Cheers!
@TheDementedMonkeys
Жыл бұрын
@@tolinanelda2448 depending where you live, yes!
Why were the guns placed in the intake manifold?
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
Poweeeeer!
Haha the guy to the right looks so constipated.
It's speaking with motor lovers!
How's the Kugelfischer system on turbo cars?
@TheDementedMonkeys
3 жыл бұрын
the bmw 2002 turbo used it. It worked just fine!
@goosebee
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDementedMonkeys thanks!
It gets its fuel in a strange way
Ok, how much hp?
im really late heres a joke looks like snakes flicking their nom nom seekers
Snazzy!
An engine from a 1993-1995 Fiat Punto GT MKI with the block code 176.A4.000 made 136bhp. How much does this one make?
@TheDementedMonkeys
5 жыл бұрын
an extra 80 or 100 hp, depending on its configuration.
@MrHBSoftware
5 жыл бұрын
punto gt is EFI and turbocharged, you are comparing apples with potatoes
Good 👏
Hermosooooo.... muestren mas de ese motor... saludos desde argetina
@admlucius7298
6 жыл бұрын
Poronguero...con todos los B18 y 2JZ que hay en you tube venis a ver esta verga! jajajajajajajajaaj
@estoy.quieto
6 жыл бұрын
Adm -HF bien que vos tambien lo viniste a ver pelotudo
@admlucius7298
6 жыл бұрын
xYUNGSLIDERx Sl mas vale...para confirmar la garlompa que es 😂😂
@Giova590
5 жыл бұрын
Adm -HF No hay comparación entre un motor aspirado con VTEC y un motor rudimentario pensado para la calle como el del 128
@lautarobarzola1019
5 жыл бұрын
@@admlucius7298 y vos en que andas ???
I think that the 3rd injector doesn't spray as wide as the rest...
Unique fuel injected engine !!
Savino Soto ,GFY !!
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Me parece que a la par de uno de acá ( argentina) se queda corto ese motor...
@diegosinner
5 жыл бұрын
¿Vos crees que lo van a llevar al limitador como hacen todos los "vivos" de acá? No lo esta acelerando ni un poco.
@juanchodalesio
5 жыл бұрын
@@diegosinner a lo que voy es que acá lo llevan a mucho más a esos motores...en preparación.
@manumaddalenatd3223
5 жыл бұрын
Pensa que probablemente sea para correr en alguna categoria, tienen limitaciones para preparar el motor y muy probablemente busquen tener confiabilidad
@lordofrims
5 жыл бұрын
No es un motor de picadas, claramente debe ser se circuito.
@rallyivan1234
5 жыл бұрын
@@lordofrims o de rally
👍👍👍
Was hoping you'd go full throttle
the injector on cyl #2 seems clogged a little
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mechanical fuel injection!