Centurions broke 12 RECORDS IN ONE SEASON. Most important ones were: 1. First team to ever get 100 points. 2. Broke the goal scoring record for a single pl season (106) 3. First team to ever win 32 games in a single PL season. 4. Highest points tally ahead of second (19) 5. Broke club record of 31 wins in a single season (that was in championship). 6. Most successive PL wins (18). 7. Highest away points tally. 8. Most teams beaten in a single season. 9. Equalled earliest title win ever. 10. Highest ever goal difference. Other records: Foden youngest player to get PL winner's medal and most possession against Everton - 82.1%. A couple of these records were broken by Liverpool, but my point still stands.

@anthonyzelias

8 ай бұрын

Still taking invincible season 😂

@dennisr263

8 ай бұрын

Despite all that, they lost a game, cry me a river mate 🤣👍🏽

@dantralius9269

8 ай бұрын

@@dennisr263 Despite all that, we achieved the highest points total ever recorded in PL history.

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

@@dennisr263 ya but centurions would beat that invincible team on the pitch.

@benng8730

8 ай бұрын

But you all lost 2 games Arsenal didn't even lost a game.

Fair play to City though. Imagine a season where Liverpool were centurions and invincible.

@daboyfernando6033

8 ай бұрын

We were so close 😂 maybe in an alternative universe we beat city that season 😂

@Dasni12

8 ай бұрын

​@@daboyfernando6033 forget city you lost to Watford mate

@daboyfernando6033

8 ай бұрын

@@Dasni12 that’s a different season. The season we lost the league to city with 97 points in 18/19 we only lost one game that season which was to City at the Eithiad. If we had won that game we would have been both centurions and invincibles

@LeviEllis85

8 ай бұрын

@@daboyfernando6033could of should of would of but you didn’t so 🤫

@krypt4226

8 ай бұрын

@@LeviEllis85 I don’t know why people use “of” instead of “have”.

Robbie calling Man City fans desperate even though they're winning the league every season 😆.

@Nne-nne

8 ай бұрын

They’re desperate to be something. We all know they’re buying the league and won the lottery.

@swigword

8 ай бұрын

​@@Nne-nnecry some more ya schmuck

@ianrayson9764

8 ай бұрын

The 1888-89 season was Preston North End's first season in the Football League, which had just been founded. Because of this Preston became one of the founder members of the Football League. Preston were very successful during the season as they went on to claim the league and cup double without being defeated.

@tahirstormborn1026

8 ай бұрын

The projection by Arsenal fans is mind boggling 🤣🤣🤣

@logirex

8 ай бұрын

I get it though because if they don't big up the invincibles season they got nothing. They have not won the league for more than 20 years now and never in their history have they won the Champion League. When that is the case you have to try and make the invincibles into the best thing ever. The funny thing is the invincibles season also had them kicked out of the league cup, fa cup and champions league 🤦‍♂

Id choose Centurions but I respect the Invincibles....Both are amazing achievements

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

Both great achievements but invincibles is HARDER to do!!! Centurions you can afford to lose FOUR games. Invincibles, if you lose ONE game then you have to wait until the next season to start again. It is MUCH harder!!

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

@@MrMessyb thing is no one goes for invincibles. teams are pushing on all fronts now players are rotated sometimes weaker 11 gets beat. not to mention level of lower teams is way better now. also if you ask me winning 34 games is a season is harder than winning 26 games. invincible thing has also an element of luck involved. if van nistelroy scores that penalty no invincible.

@tb3616

8 ай бұрын

@@MrMessyb 100 points is harder because when a game is drawing, you have to risk losing to win games. You can’t settle for draws. If both teams were in the same league and the centurion were in the same season City would have won the league

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

@@samiulhuda4001 they cheated to get the penalty in the first place, so that point is irrelevant.

@hyywe240

8 ай бұрын

​@@MrMessyb you arent trying to not lose. Youre trying to get the most points. That should be the argument done

Neither has been done more than once. So that ends the debate.

@CE77777

8 ай бұрын

Word lol, call it a tie and done 😂 Invincibles better though 😶‍🌫️

@lyndonsaunders8009

8 ай бұрын

@@CE77777 😂😂

@thetruth4654

8 ай бұрын

Both Juventus and AC Milan have had Invincible seasons. So it has been done atleast three times at the highest level of football. So as a neutral Centurions are the better achievement.

@josephmark9944

8 ай бұрын

@@thetruth4654Madrid,Barca,Celtic have also had 100point seasons

@lyndonsaunders8009

8 ай бұрын

@@thetruth4654 in the prem??

Buvey is such a troll❤🤣🤣

@millsy1544

8 ай бұрын

Biggest one around

@aavery3931

8 ай бұрын

Can’t stand him 😂

Every club’s objective each season is to accumulate as many points as they can in 38 games. That is the whole point of a league campaign. So I think 100pts is the better achievement. I look at a invincible season as a side mission. No one makes going unbeaten their main objective for the season, especially not Pep.

The funny part is mancity stopped chelsea and liverpool from going unbeaten 😂😂😂

@23293

3 ай бұрын

lol

This was a painful watch as an Arsenal fan 🫣

Picking Aguero over Henry is pure delusion 😂

@CasperDAFriendlyBulldog

8 ай бұрын

Henry 2 prems won aguero 5….

@Kdee-

8 ай бұрын

@@CasperDAFriendlyBulldogso? Giroud won a European trophy with an English side. Henry didn’t. Does that mean Giroud is automatically better than Henry. Pure delusion

@ishanthapa7781

8 ай бұрын

@@Kdee- Its not just aguero has won 5 premier leagues and Henry 2. Aguero has more PL goals with better efficiency, more goals against big 6, more hattricks, goals in finals. What has henry over aguero? speed lol.

@isaacsolis3431

8 ай бұрын

@@ishanthapa7781👏👏

@kylevinyard7287

8 ай бұрын

​@@Kdee-GIROUD WON THE EUROPA LEAGUE WITH CHELSEA IN 2019 AND THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE IN 2021 WITH CHELSEA he's france 🇫🇷 all time record goalscorer

Man City in 2018 scored the most Goals in EPL history (106) Recorded the most Wins in EPL history (32) And the most points in EPL history (100) They also recorded the longest winning streak in a single season in EPL history (18 games) Arsenal's invincibles is very impressive, but City were just too dominant in 17/18 for me to look past them I'll go with City's Edit: I forgot to mention - City won the EPL with the highest ever points margin (+19 points ahead of 2nd placed Man Utd) - they also won the league with 5 games to spare

@jorgedelarosa7550

8 ай бұрын

not dominant enough since they didnt go invincible ;)

@kattphatt

8 ай бұрын

@@jorgedelarosa7550 Invincibles 1 trophy, Centurions 2 trophies.

@negberrrr

8 ай бұрын

@@jorgedelarosa7550 sure the invincibles were very dominant drawing to portsmouth and birmingham 🤣

@TheDecline99

8 ай бұрын

@@negberrrrreally? You got no right to talk. Third in a two horse race. Remind me when you last dominated anything? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

Both great achievements but invincibles is HARDER to do!!! Centurions you can afford to lose FOUR games. Invincibles, if you lose ONE game then you have to wait until the next season to start again. It is MUCH harder!!

WHATS STEVE ON ABOUT OUR CHAIRMAN MADE UP A TROPHY?? THE GOLD PREM IS FROM THE PREM, ARSENAL DIDNT MAKE IT 😂

@f_man2733

8 ай бұрын

Such a weirdo ain’t he 😂

@9751_

8 ай бұрын

@@f_man2733he’s a real fan unlike you

@mcfcok1683

8 ай бұрын

@@f_man2733he’s been to the emirates more than you 😂😂😂

@23293

3 ай бұрын

Hes bald for a reason

@fr8st903

Ай бұрын

@@23293Lol, saying that when there’s 3 bald Arsenal fans there is jokes…😂

They are both great achievements that are unique to each team let’s just love it for what it is

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

8 ай бұрын

City - can't Draw games in race with Arsenal - Drew 12 games Arsenal Invincibles would be fighting for Top4 in Centurions City Era,no?😂

@deeray4637

8 ай бұрын

​@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsshutup.

@I_F_O_R_G_O_T

8 ай бұрын

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 💀

@f_man2733

8 ай бұрын

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings are you ok upstairs … that arsenal team was magic. Don’t no what ur you started watching footy mate

@whywhaay6638

8 ай бұрын

Wouldn’t be a very long video if they came to that conclusion 😂

The thing is the gold trophy is never mentioned because it's second nature that a club is expected at least to lose a game!

@metacommentary6791

8 ай бұрын

there wpuld be no trophy is both seasons happened at the same time. City would have just been 10 points clear and won

If Invincible Arsenal and City Centurians💯 played a whole season together the City Centurians💯 will win the league title and Arsneal going Invincible will not be talked about. Confirmed. Now you make your decision.

This show is better than Netflix an big Steve i respect alot but it has to be the invincibles for me!! COYG 🔴⚪🇯🇲

This debate will always rage with both sets of fans thinking their achievements were better, as a great man once said "everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home"

Once Robbie admitted that the Treble was better than the invincibles, I was fine.

@Periodik

8 ай бұрын

It’s not true though. Man U and Man City both have won trebles. Neither have ever gone invincible. The harder feat is never losing a game the entire season due to it’s rarity.

@broman1429

8 ай бұрын

​​@@Periodikyet centurions has also been achieved once😂

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

@@Periodik please treble is way harder than invincible.

@Sproles11

8 ай бұрын

@@Periodik so you’d rather go a PL season unbeaten than win the treble?

@EnzoPepsiCola

8 ай бұрын

​@@broman1429Liverpool literally got 99 points the same year showing how poor the rest of the league were

“You can draw every game and relegate”, but that’s not what happened? You can also get 100 points and not win the league.., maximum is 114 points, so theoretically another team can have more than 100 points and win the league

@tb3616

8 ай бұрын

But the main goal is league football is to accumulate as much points as possible lol.

@artemlobov9768

6 ай бұрын

100 points > 90 last time I checked

Buvey is Box Office 😂😂

@bub-games

8 ай бұрын

Box office flop. He's not funny he's just an ex Man u fan who followed the money.

@backbencher10054

8 ай бұрын

@@bub-games Dosen't matter if he was an Ex Man U or Ex Arsenal or Ex Whoever, The thing is sometimes when u are talking tactics,stats,eye test etc etc U need a bit of Fun & Banter which he provides

An important aspect that everyone seems to forget was how the media was pumping up opposition teams to finally be the one to topple Arsenal's record. Even the poor teams in the league were motivated and up for a scrap to stop Arsenal owning the title of INVINCIBLE

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

and there were loads more poor teams back then compared to now. not to mention top teams didnt play 60+ matches a season

@jayjay-nk8eu

8 ай бұрын

@samiulhuda4001 the amount of games was the same as it is now. Yeah my point was the teams were so pumped up and played very aggressive to make sure Arsenal wouldn't go unbeaten as it was seen as disrespectful

Invincibles is crazy to achieve, especially telling you gonna go before season starts. That's Wenger's brilliance. Centurions is great achievement, but on that season Liverpool were close to centurions as well. And that's because a league was very poor that year.

@vvakhari

8 ай бұрын

Liverpool were close to being invincible to you muppet. They lost only 1 game that season.

@yanoyup6260

8 ай бұрын

Bar united and an upcoming Chelsea, everyone else were average when the invincibles happened

@frankfestus114

8 ай бұрын

Gerard rangers was invisible so it can be done

@AJ-nd4nk

8 ай бұрын

It wasn't a poor league.. Liverpool were just too good that season.

@Arty2senis

8 ай бұрын

@@Leeroy-pl6rt but still both teams lost. And the year after Liverpool lost when they could be Invincibles, but couldn't finish the dinner.

The biggest achievement in English football at the moment is the quadruple. As much going a season unbeaten and gaining a 100 points is a fantastic achievement they can’t compare to winning all 4 competitions.

Steve saying that he'd rather have 100 points is utter rubbish, if any Man City fan was 100% honest they would say that an unbeaten season is what they want to achieve...

@GermanChickenwing

8 ай бұрын

Who is winning the league that season, the 100 points team or the unbeaten team? That should answer everything

@russellward4624

8 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about drawing 12 games. Barca had the chance to go unbeated a couple years ago on the final day of the season and rested Messi for a post season friendly.

@Luke-bq7sd

8 ай бұрын

i am being 100% honest and putting this on my life when i say i'd rather centurions. The prestige of each achievement is even, neither has been repeated, but while unbeaten is a cool achievement, but 100 points is harder to do. if arsenal's invincible team had played in city's centurion season they would have come second by 9 WHOLE POINTS. If city's centurions had played during the invincible season, they would have come first, by 9 WHOLE points. At the end of the day football is about who's better, not who can keep the most clean sheets. end of.

@salmonero6472

8 ай бұрын

The Invincible team doesn't even make the top 5 most points in PL history. They could've won 3 more games and they still wouldn't have reached Liverpool that finished 2nd in 2018/19 🤷‍♂️

@MancityRecap

8 ай бұрын

Fun fact man city stopped chelsea and liverpool from going unbeaten 😂😂😂😂😂

City’s longest unbeaten run is 30 games, 4 Drawn. Arsenals highest points gained in a single season is 90 points.. invincible season. The points gained in a single season record has been broken many times, recently.. the other hasn’t. Yes, you won the treble.. but you’ve got 9 league titles, Everton too.

@ianrayson9764

8 ай бұрын

The 1888-89 season was Preston North End's first season in the Football League, which had just been founded. Because of this Preston became one of the founder members of the Football League. Preston were very successful during the season as they went on to claim the league and cup double without being defeated.

@Louiesarge1

8 ай бұрын

@@ianrayson9764 doesn’t really count because the first division actually became the EFL championship when the prem was created

I’m giving it to Centurions just about. The Invincibles achievement is getting underrated, but 100 points to destroy every team like that is ridiculous.

imagine saying Aguero is better than Henry. 💀💀💀

@superspursjb

8 ай бұрын

Bale was better than henry

@raghavsrivastava2108

8 ай бұрын

@@superspursjb 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@raghavsrivastava2108

8 ай бұрын

@@superspursjb no one was better than titi

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

@@raghavsrivastava2108 i would pick henry everyday except in big games and finals

@hypello9534

8 ай бұрын

Its his opinion stop crying like a women cause ppl have different opinion

5 minutes in and my head hurts. Big Steve and Boovie keep wanting to divert from Invincibles vs Centurions to UCL. Horrible debate

Invincible is more impressive because it means not one team in the whole league could better us, no off nights , whereas city had two nights where a team was better than them

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

@@Leeroy-pl6rtbut that isn’t what happened? Each season is different let alone seasons that are 14 years apart

@ZAK5678

8 ай бұрын

@@Leeroy-pl6rt undefeated brooooooooo just accept it

I am not a fan of any of these teams, however no one other than Manchester city fans would pick Aguero over Henry.

@MancityRecap

8 ай бұрын

Then you don't know ball mate your delusional as they come

@we5t5id3gunn

8 ай бұрын

as a city fan id say henry was better but in still putting aguero over shearer rooney kane etc.

@Manunited321

8 ай бұрын

​@@we5t5id3gunncome on mate rooney is better

*Invincibles* Thierry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp and crew- they were just too good!😮🎉

@bahjabilan2652

8 ай бұрын

They couldn’t even win ucl

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

@@bahjabilan2652it only took man city billions of pounds and years of choking to artificially win by cheating to get theirs

@superspursjb

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

PLEASE USE MY ARGUMENT ON THE Show LADS!!! premier league play is all about points. To go Undefeated is a massive accomplishment but the fact remains that 100 points is more than what the invincibles picked up that year. If the two teams were playing in The same year, city would be champions and no one would have given the invincibles as much credit. Hate to say it as an Arsenal supporter but 100 points city team is the bigger accomplishment between them.

@glennicholls1971

8 ай бұрын

If you say so mosh

@kunyagooner

8 ай бұрын

@@kunimitsune177 baseball?

@gabrielgilliard4458

8 ай бұрын

At the end of the day I don’t think invincible will be sone again, but 100 points is better than 90 so ik what’s better

@amorphous7474

8 ай бұрын

​​@@gabrielgilliard4458Agreed because Premier League is like the Super League. All the billionaires are flocking in. Premier League in 2004 was objectively easier.

@2for10

8 ай бұрын

@@amorphous7474No chance was it easier. It was more even. Other than United no club had big money to spend and run away with the league.

Wenger said he was going to go unbeaten and did it is very cold … to say u don’t want it sounds like your afraid of the challenge to even try it … other teams have done both achievements *in different leagues* but as a prem achievement the gold trophy argument is “do it “ and end the argument if it being irrelevant

@whitehallavenue1752

8 ай бұрын

Dozen Draws

Wobbie:- Spring’23: We’ve got bigger fish to fry. A blessing in disguise. Summer’23:🤐 Autumn’23: We’ve got a harpoon for these sharks. Winter’23:🤐

End of the day, if both of those achievements were in the same season, Arsenal would walk away without a trophy, as they’d finish 10 points behind City.

if two students take a test and one student gets 90 marks out of 114 but no answers wrong and the other student gets 100 marks out of 114 with some questions wrong who's the smarter kid........? Centurions are better! More points equals a higher grade.

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

Mate, there is one fatal flaw in your analogy. Your premise is if two students take the same test, in the same year. The football equivalent would be if Arsenal went invincible and city got 100 points in the same season. So the correct way to measure seasons across different eras is to look at the standard deviation of points from their respective seasons, instead of comparing points directly.

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

How can you get 90 marks out of 114 and not get an answer wrong 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a stupid example!!!

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

Both great achievements but invincibles is HARDER to do!!! Centurions you can afford to lose FOUR games. Invincibles, if you lose ONE game then you have to wait until the next season to start again. It is MUCH harder!!

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

@@MrMessyb lol ikr, the only way I can think is if you leave some questions blank, then you technically didn't get any questions "wrong"

The moment i won the champions league ,i stopped arguing with teams that havent won it. It would be disrespecting for me to argue back.

Can't take ppl seriously in debate of the Premier League involving The Invincibles who say "12 draws" " 38 draws still gets u relegated" "no1 cares about the trophy/achievement" and divert back to another competition😂. City fans started moving after the CL win

Steve said we dropped the big one in 04’. City in 18’ got humbled at anfield by Liverpool. And the AC Milan in 04’ would destroy City in the cl

@kattphatt

8 ай бұрын

Arsenal shouldn't talk about CL football.

@9751_

8 ай бұрын

@@kattphattFacts. They’ll never win a European cup.

You think winning 26 games and drawing 12 games is more impressive than getting 100 point out of 114 points

@goyonman9655

8 ай бұрын

YESSSSS

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

Both great achievements but invincibles is HARDER to do!!! Centurions you can afford to lose FOUR games. Invincibles, if you lose ONE game then you have to wait until the next season to start again. It is MUCH harder!!

@flavio7180

Ай бұрын

​@@MrMessybYou can afford to lose 4 games, only if you win 33 others, which is almost impossible. In the top 5 leagues, only Juventus have managed 33 wins once, and no one else. You can go invincible even with 10 wins, you can't reach 100 points without at least 31 wins mathematically.

The strength of the current league is miles from when the invincible players played, the clubs are a lot wealthier with better players. Centurions broke many records

Unbiased Villa fan, Invincibles is more difficult imo but it's not something any manager tries to achieve tbh.

@ianrayson9764

8 ай бұрын

The 1888-89 season was Preston North End's first season in the Football League, which had just been founded. Because of this Preston became one of the founder members of the Football League. Preston were very successful during the season as they went on to claim the league and cup double without being defeated.

I pick invincible, as a neutral, because I think it's harder to replicate, Liverpool did get 99 points, someone will break that record eventually, probably Man City themselves tbf. Also, 100 points is just a random number, just because it's round doesn't mean that much to me

@goyonman9655

8 ай бұрын

God bless you sir

@ianrayson9764

8 ай бұрын

The 1888-89 season was Preston North End's first season in the Football League, which had just been founded. Because of this Preston became one of the founder members of the Football League. Preston were very successful during the season as they went on to claim the league and cup double without being defeated.

@TP-pq9xx

8 ай бұрын

Whichever team breaks 100 points will also probably be invincible.

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

@@ianrayson976422 game season. Not the same. Nice try though lol.

If you can't win a game don't lose it...that is the mentality of every team...

City don't rate anything they haven't done. B4 last season they didn't rate the Champions League as well.

@Rooler694

8 ай бұрын

They don't rate anything since they were created in 2010

Arsenal fans should be thanking city for stopping another team going invincible on 2 occasions, Chelsea in 2004 and Liverpool in 2019

“You keep belittling the fact that we went unbeaten, go do it then” Okay bro go get a 100 points in a season then we’ll wait ⏳

As an Arsenal fan, I respect both the centurions and the invincibles both are great achievements. But the Chelsea team of 04/05, their record of 15 goals conceded will NEVER be broken.

@jamz22

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I be honest that is a crazy achievement also that gets overlooked all the time

@Footy_editz453

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. That 15 goal season is the best achievement

@2511dhall

8 ай бұрын

Also it was great that it ended a 9 year duopoly.

@Coach-nb4sq

8 ай бұрын

@@2511dhall 🤣😂

From an Arsenal fan Fml, we’re just hanging on to this gold trophy for dear life, absolutely noway you can compare an unbeaten season to winning a treble with a champions league included, the treble is undoubtedly better we gotta stop living in the past

Arsenal really went 49 unbeaten over 3 seasons Won 36 Drew 13 Lost 0 Goals scored 112 conceded 35 no other team has ever come close to that..

@JW-jd6sn

5 ай бұрын

Liverpool have.

The money city spent for the centurion and arsenal spent to go unbeaten says it all

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

Exactly

@mcfcok3773

7 ай бұрын

The money other clubs were also spending at the time 🤫

I lost it when Robbie started knocking on the table 😂😂😂

No player has said ‘I grew up watching Sergio aguero’ ALLOOWW ITT😭😭😭😭

The best robbie comeback when they talked about henry vs aguero.

Big Steve and Buvey are pretty thick, aren’t they. Why are they talking about Champions League and Trebles? Stick to the argument, invincibles or centurions. Not hard

Invisibles is a greatest achievement because it has never been done by anyone else, the same can be said for the centurions

@TheSW6Club

8 ай бұрын

Other teams have gone invincible lol

@user-tb4og3xr8l

8 ай бұрын

Cab you imaging man city drawing 12 games

@jgdayes6721

8 ай бұрын

Preston did it mate 😂

@bub-games

8 ай бұрын

12 draws, still got 91 points.

@russellward4624

8 ай бұрын

​@bub-games and 100 points is better

Which set of results would you take for the next 6 games: LLLWWW or DDDDDD? Obviously the first. Points are more important than not losing.

If this city team played that arsenal team, city would win the league at a canter, therefore better team

@goyonman9655

8 ай бұрын

The question isn't what is the better side It's, which is the better achievement

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

This city team was made artificially through investing billions and cheating. Arsenal got their team naturally by following the rules. That Arsenal team won the league by 11 points. City won the league by only 3 points.

@wickedmanrick2582

8 ай бұрын

Arsenal big club no european cup😂😂😂😂😂

@goyonman9655

8 ай бұрын

@@wickedmanrick2582 That's not the topic

@wickedmanrick2582

8 ай бұрын

@@goyonman9655 there is no topic to talk about arsenal in europe no trophys

The quality of all the teams in the prem has changed since the invincible season. Yes, a team with over 100 points would beat a team with less points and no losses. But the only real way to compare the two sides would be to have them face the same clubs with the same players for a whole season. I think the fact that the invincibles were not worse than their opponents on any single match day for a whole season means more. The points earned at the end of the season is an arbitrary number that basically sums up the relation between how good the team is and how all of their opponents are. In the case of city, they were disproportionately better than other prem teams the centurion season. Does not apply to 03/04 invincible season and I would bet that city squad would not have won the prem that season.

@rocketboy9476

8 ай бұрын

Facts!

@keesspek8419

8 ай бұрын

And the invincible squad wasn’t bought like City squad

@Markyy____

8 ай бұрын

@@keesspek8419 played for free did they? all local lads as well?

@MrAndreyoung

8 ай бұрын

Henry

@ianrayson9764

8 ай бұрын

The 1888-89 season was Preston North End's first season in the Football League, which had just been founded. Because of this Preston became one of the founder members of the Football League. Preston were very successful during the season as they went on to claim the league and cup double without being defeated.

2 draws =2 points 1 win 1 lose =3 points its simple centurions better

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

Both great achievements but invincibles is HARDER to do!!! Centurions you can afford to lose FOUR games. Invincibles, if you lose ONE game then you have to wait until the next season to start again. It is MUCH harder!!

Centurions. No ones cares about invincibles other than Arsenal fans. The only reason anyone would want to win it if it got close would be to shut up Arsenal fans because they would have nothing to say ever again which is sad.

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

Arsenal achievement was done organically and by following rules. City injected billions and cheated their way through. Arsenal’s achievement is clear

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s why Fergie, greatest Premier League manager, said it’s the greatest achievement but okay. Both great achievements but invincibles is HARDER to do!!! Centurions you can afford to lose FOUR games. Invincibles, if you lose ONE game then you have to wait until the next season to start again. It is MUCH harder!!

Both got a trophy. The centurions get the same thing every one else gets every season…we may not ever see another unbeaten season. Someone wins the league every year points tallies don’t matter at all

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

well we might if a team like city forfeits all other trophies and only focuses on the league. and if the league goes back to a time when you could win the league with 75 points

@CupChasers

8 ай бұрын

@@samiulhuda4001 when pool won the league city hit like 83 points….when the centurions win pool hit like 97 or something crazy, both of those teams did what it took to win the league. So too the invincibles. The only difference is arsenal did it without a loss

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

@@CupChasers the point i was making is the league and and schedule is much harder now. it will be 20x harder to go invincible now than in 2004. and arsenal did that by forgoing other trophies even back then

@CupChasers

8 ай бұрын

@@samiulhuda4001 that’s fair.

No team is trying to go invincible lol. When the game is drawing city and Liverpool will have to play high risk because they want as much points as possible.

Big Steve and Buvey cooked them😂

Closing credits song?

Great debate loved it 😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

I mean the invincibles was a great achievement. But the teams are a lot better now so it is harder to repeat. That city team back then would've not lost a game and could have potentially won every game...

@lyndonsaunders8009

8 ай бұрын

teams are better now because players arent hacked at every game. Arsenal has always been a team who tried to play football under Wenger and were subject to brutal tackles by the oppositions. City's centurions and treble side did not face that.

is not even debatable wining is harder than drawing so the fact that Man City won so much to get centurions is just mind-boggling

@goyonman9655

8 ай бұрын

Invincibles is more impressive

@MrMessyb

8 ай бұрын

Both great achievements but invincibles is HARDER to do!!! Centurions you can afford to lose FOUR games. Invincibles, if you lose ONE game then you have to wait until the next season to start again. It is MUCH harder!!

The simplest way for Buvey and Steve to win the debate is to ask: What would no losses and 12 draws have gotten Arsenal in the 2018-19 season? Third behind City and Liverpool. That's a fact. Even if you gave Arsenal a win and draw against both City and Liverpool that season. 100 points wins the league in every single season so far and likely ever. That said, as a City supporter, I have Henry first among Premier League strikers and Aguero second.

id rather 100 points than having 12 games we didnt win

Big Steve, they don't mention invincibles on monday night football and other prime time shows because everyone knows it ain't happening again. That Arsenal trio of Bergkamp, Henry and Pires would destroy any defence in the modern day.

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

They do actually mention it, that’s the funny thing, but as you rightly pointed out, they know it’s not happening any time soon. Especially when there are no teams that are still undefeated come November , December etc..

@samiulhuda4001

8 ай бұрын

its not happening because football is way more competitive now than it was back then. going unbeaten in epl now is probably 20x harder than in 2004

No debate invincibles win every time. Better quality teams back then

You could be invincible drawing all the games. Over 100 points is way more impressive

i think man city defo could go unbeaten if that was their only goal. They could literally just keep possession for most of the game and get a bunch of draws. But in the Arsenal invincibles season, they got 90 points, which now days typically isnt enough to win the league especially if liverpool are chasing them. So City have to go for the win most of the time to make sure they get enough points to win the league which can bite them in the ass sometimes and cause them to lose if a team gets them on the counter attack

@mathewmapeshomulaye2732

8 ай бұрын

They failed. That’s all that matters.

The Invincible is a great achievement. However it's not the greatest achievement. Of course either fan base will choose their teams (SHOCKER). With that said, I believe the FOURmidables were better than the Centurion.

buvey is so unlikable it's unreal XD LOL this guy lives in his own universe!

shouldn't be a debate about this, 100 points can be done again, nobody is ever going 38 games unbeaten in one league season. The games gotten harder, therefore making it harder to achieve

@eaglemma1020

8 ай бұрын

100 points will never be done again. Unbeaten will happen again

@alcesar6290

8 ай бұрын

49 games unbeaten

@manunited1235

8 ай бұрын

@@eaglemma1020unbeaten will not happen again in the league. Man City have set the bar really high for points and I think they could get 100 points again, but I don’t think they’ll go unbeaten. As good as they are, even they lost a game or two. Unbeaten will not happen again

@ianrayson9764

8 ай бұрын

The 1888-89 season was Preston North End's first season in the Football League, which had just been founded. Because of this Preston became one of the founder members of the Football League. Preston were very successful during the season as they went on to claim the league and cup double without being defeated.

@eaglemma1020

8 ай бұрын

@@manunited1235 100 points will never happen again. Arsenal did okay drawing until they can call themselves unbeaten. It will undoubtedly happen again. 100 points will never be repeated

The achievements are of a similar level. The only thing is that Arsenals was more of a hero story than a villian arc. Because it wasnt through the injection of big money and a lot of trial and error investments that created winning culture. It was just George Grahams followed by Arsene Wenger (Who?). Big props to City though, they are seriously great! And Liverpool who almost achieved both achievements that one season.

Can city go invincible if there was no other trophy to play for = YES Can arsenal get 100 points if there was no other competition to play in = NO Henry better than aguero Saliba better than stones Rodri better than rice

@bremember

7 ай бұрын

Exactly, if City wanted to just win the league without losing a game, they could do it easily

Why are city fans Deflecting to other trophies

The invincible team would have finished third in Man City‘s centurion season because they didn’t get as many points as Liverpool as well points is what matters

@goyonman9655

8 ай бұрын

This is besides the point

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

That’s not how you compare seasons from 14 years apart. You have to look at the standard deviation and adjust the points

Let’s get to the basics of football. 1. You play to win. 2. If you don’t win, don’t lose. This surely settles it?

Picking 100 points over Invincible is fair enough, pick your poison....but thinking Aguero was a better player than Henry is just pure delusion.

I thought City will go unbeatable this season to win Prem & also win FA cup invincible & double. But Pep has diff plans maybe like forget invincible let’s win the treble again. 😂

@tb3616

8 ай бұрын

city can’t draw 12 games lol so we risk losing to win games. Going invincible is not the goal lol getting the most points as possible is the goal for league football.

Less don't forget during the invincible season arsenal where literally knocked out of the UCL by chelsea and if not for Ruud van Nistelrooy missed penalty we won't be having this debate on invincibles

@edwardssekalo7938

8 ай бұрын

If not... bla bla bla. But you know how the saying goes... If my auntie had balls...

@stewartlawson7208

8 ай бұрын

That’s the thing with that season your a single goal from losing so that’s why it’s difficult to do and same as 100pts both are amazing achievements but I feel going unbeaten is the better but again both unbelievable achievements

12 draws in one season is not even something to be proud of 😂

someone definitley dropped this buvey guy on his head as a kid.

big difference is Arsenal were playing to go unbeaten, but Teams wont play for that they play for 3 points they will risk it.

100 points is the best achievement simply because it wins the league if both are playing in the same year.

Both invincible and centurions had the best managers and players. We can't say that one is better than the other based on statistics. Even if I am a big big arsenal fan, it would vary

100 point season is done because we go out to win every game which makes us prone to lose the odd game from being open and attacking. Unbeaten can happen when you know you won the league and now plan to sit in for the remainder of the matches, the aim to not lose rather to win. Both amazing achievements but no one cares about being unbeaten anymore (only arsenal fans) because theres too many quality teams in the league. 🙏🤭

@alexanderebite4700

8 ай бұрын

Do it then you can't because it hard

@goyonman9655

8 ай бұрын

​@jeffsroyalbodyguard7642 100 is literally just a random number No more special than 95, 101, or 95

Here's a stat for you Steve, goals per game Henry 0.68 Aguero 0.67

The invisible season is incredible but that arsenal team outside of that massively under achieved. The city team have went to the end time & time again. The only thing that's arguable here is arsenal played against stronger opposition other than Liverpool city dont really have a challenge. The city team have also gained more points than that arsenal team multiple times as well without having to never lose 😂

When it was 2 points for a win, a Centurion season would never happen but unbeaten is unbeaten…then or now!

12 draws!!!! Jeez didn't even realise.

@SS-jn8hl

8 ай бұрын

26 wins tho, and 49 unbeaten overall

What's really funny about the Invincible v. Centurion debate is that if both happened in the same season City win the league by 10 points lol.

@sagacity7819

8 ай бұрын

That argument is lacking in logic, cause if they played in the same season they would have had to play against eachother

@solidasarock06

8 ай бұрын

@@sagacity7819 ok lol

The best single league achievement is the unbeaten 1. As a seasonal achievement is the trebble you can't be more logical than that

100 points easily, 2 trophies and you guys know the rest.

I'm an Arsenal fan but the City Centurions had a better overall squad but I think the Invincibles was probably the best 1st 11 in the league. Cole, Campbell, Vieira, Gilberto, Pires, Bergkamp and Henry in your starting line up, great players and could not get physically bullied. Oh and that 12 draws thing, one was at White Heart Lane where a draw was sufficient to win the league and we drew 2 of the last 4 games having already won the league. In 2004 the pressure was on for Arsenal to not lose any of the last 4 games and for City the pressure was on to get to 100. Both achieved those objectives and both are special to each fan base so just let each fan base enjoy them.

@Nne-nne

8 ай бұрын

You’re no Arsenal fan. Buying the best players and doing it the proper way and going unbeaten is the best.

@stuartmcmillan9004

8 ай бұрын

@@Nne-nne What do you mean I'm no Arsenal fan, I think that going a league season unbeaten in 38 games is the best achievement because I don't think it will happen again, Man City won a treble after Man Utd won it 24 years earlier and in 1984 Liverpool won a treble with the league, European Cup and League Cup. So 3 trebles in a 30 year span means the Invincible's achievement is more unique, special and memorable. Now Alex Ferguson said that the Invincible's achievement is the pinnacle of all and who am I to argue with him. The fact is that Man City's 2018 team is a stronger squad but the Arsenal 2004 first 11 is the best and.most well balanced first 11 in the Premier League era and no team today has the combination of skill, class and physicality to match it.

@ceratoenjoyer

8 ай бұрын

​@@Nne-nnehe's not an arsenal fan cause he's not delusional? I fking hate this fanbase sometimes. We really do have the most insufferable fans.

@robbie your chat is 100 on point and on facts