Unlimited coil, bigger carb, better bar, aluminum handle, rim sprocket, metal clutch cover, outer dog, and 1/2 horsepower more on the 620p.

@andrewslagle1974

3 жыл бұрын

2 ring piston on 620 1 ring on 590 and the jugs between the two . the porting is different.Last The mufflers are different as well

@DaveyBlue32

3 жыл бұрын

Right on!!! Worth the extra coin in my mind...carb alone

@eurokid83

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewslagle1974what’s different about the mufflers? Last I checked both saws used the same part number.

@stevenblake6939

Жыл бұрын

You can buy all that stuff and literally bolt on a 590 cheaper then price of a 620...

@Florida239

8 ай бұрын

@@stevenblake6939will the wrap handle fit the 590 as well ?

There was a breakdown of both of these saws on a forum where they were doing a very in depth teardown and work up to a fully woods ported pair of saws. The larger carb is the largest performance gain going to the 620p. Mufflers are the same. The cylinders and pistons are different. The 620p is 'tuned' for higher rpm and it does breathe better from having the larger carb and slightly different porting. The 590 has a more torquey and less peaky power delivery and makes peak power at a lower rpm due to carb limitations. That's not to say the 590 has more torque, but it has a more linear curve. I do know that once they fully woods ported each saw, the 590 was the torqueyer saw of the two but didn't have the snap in the high rpm range the 620 did, but it would pull longer bars with less disparity. Letting both saws pull without dogging in, the 620 was always faster because it made power higher, and thus had somewhat higher chainspeed, but when dogged in they were nearly identical in cut times in, I believe the test was 16" wood. But I'm running off memory. The unlimited coil, when in the wood, makes very little difference in a stock saw. The limiter is in the 12,500 rpm range. You won't pull that in the wood ever in stock form. Maybe it allows slightly faster limbing in very very small wood, but that's negligible. Yes, the differences are slight port timing differences having different cylinder heads, twin ring vs single ring piston, different carb, different coil, aluminum vs polymer top handle, clutch covers (590 is single dog, 620 dual), sprocket, and different Oregon bars, power match vs pro match. For a truly professional user, those slight differences may lean towards the 620p, but for the average firewood guy looking for the best saw for the dollar, NOTHING comes close to the 590. Probably the next closest 'best saw for the money' is literally the 620p just due to overall quality and function. Arguments could be made that the Makita/dolmar 5600 is the next and I wouldn't be upset with that choice either. If memory serves it's about $60 more than the 590 while giving up about 5cc. Very easily the second best saw under $500 though. In near parallel with the 620p would be the dolmar/Makita 6100, the 6100 is slightly more expensive but they are within about $50 of each other.

@marcofemto9417

Жыл бұрын

Wow thank you for posting this. I have a Cs 590 I use at work (tree service) and have been trying to decide if I should sell it and buy the 620, or modify it and make it more like the 620. Change to Rim sproket, get new dogs, a better bar. I dont really care about the handle. Do you think I should upgrade my 590 or just get the 620?

@bryantitus6634

Жыл бұрын

@@marcofemto9417 @Marco Femto the price on a 620p is relatively modest considering what you get for it. By the time you upgrade a 590, which really needs the carb from a 620p to see it's true potential as it's under-carbed, and changed sprocket setups, upgraded bar, etc you already spent enough on the 590 to turn it into a 620p as what buying the 620p would have cost to begin with if you take into account the cost of the 590+mods. A 590 with the 620s carb swapped onto it is very likely the best single mod you can do. The bar is adequate on the 590 as is. Made by Oregon. The bar on the 620p is just the next model line up of Oregon. Still not that improved. I'd run the spir sprocket till it fails. Mine still hasn't and it's blocked about 50-60 cord if wood. Instead of new dogs I would buy the 620p clutch cover as it gives you dual dogs. That said the single dogs on the 590 don't suck anyways. Again, pretty much in use, the carb swap is the largest mechanical difference between the two saws. It will cut the difference substantially. But buying a 590 to put a 620p carb on it is dumb, cause it cost literally within about $50 of the cost of a 620p then, but if you already have a 590.....

@marcofemto9417

Жыл бұрын

@@bryantitus6634 Thanks again. I think I will swap carburators since I dont think I can sell my 590 for enough to justify the purchase of a 620. And it has already been broken in, currently running better than the Stihls we use

The 620 is a great saw. It sits between my 550xp and my 572xp. Definitely my workhorse! The 620p has a double ring piston btw.

I went from a Sears/poulan that ran always but vibrated hands so bad to the 590--Wow--It is powerful,vibration free,well made at a great price---no regrets...

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

The guy who has the 590 in this video did the exact same thing...I was the bad guy because i made a comment the day before he used his poulan asking if it was up for the task. About 1/2 way through the poulan spoke for the last time.

@user-yo2uo4si3u

Ай бұрын

Best saw ever 590.ive been a pro cutter 40 years

Own lots of echo equipment over the years. Got a 590 for utility saw. Affordable, Light weight and dependable. I actually didn’t know about the 620. I’ll try that next. Good video fellas! Vic

@southernyankeeinnovations

2 жыл бұрын

I was the same way! I went in to buy the 590 and there the 620 was sitting on the shelf in front of me and that was all she wrote. Have an Echo power head as well and a leaf blower. I actually just bought a 16” echo cs-400 a couple weeks ago for bucking firewood.

It’s mostly carb, coil and pipe for the extra power

Thanks for this video.I especially like the low key narration, well done. I have been running the CS 590 for a year now and here is my humble opinion. It runs the 20 in ,24 in bar great. I have the echo recommended 27 in bar and chain combination for the CS590 and it has come in handy on bigger trees. If you are going to be needing a 27 in bar on a regular basis ( even residential) Id go to the 620. For me I only need the 27 a couple of times a year and I always get it sharpened after a days use and it runs fine so I am happy with the 590. I keep a 24 in bar on it 90% of the time and it’s great, once you learn the trick to starting this saw.

@southernyankeeinnovations

10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the comment! Im fortunate enough now that I don’t need to use a 27” bar but good to know it’ll do it if I need it. I’ve had my eyes on the big boy saw echo has but just can’t justify it.

Thanks for this clarification great video no BS....

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

Both saws are still running great with no complaints on either

The rpms were alot higher on the 620 during the whole cut so id say there was a big difference

Good great review. I own the 590. Only thing I change is the spur into a rim sprocket. Works great

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

The only issue I have had with the spur was if you have a little too much slack and you try to plunge cut it’ll throw the chain but that’s an avoidable problem. I hope this video helped you make your mind up. I do think another friend of mine has the echo 680 he picked up at dealer days for a great price. I may see if I can get his for a day if that’s anything you’d be interested in. Only $20 more than the 620

@peanutbuttersanwhich1488

3 жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations Thanks btw. I appreciate it. But yeah I’m thinking about getting the 620 or the 7310. Slowly thinking about it taken my time

@07decker

3 жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations hell yeah, lets see the 680! That will piss off the wife. I will google it

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

@@07decker haha glad it’s not just me

I agree 💯. I have run 620 for years and have had the 590 for a month or so. Get the extra dogs for the 590 though.

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll let my buddy with the 590 it worth putting them on. Thanks! Glad to hear you agree with us!

1/2 or 3/4 wrap, spur or rim sprocket, single or double buck spike, bars are easy to change. The carb can be swapped, but the main jet still has the buzz button which I change.all the mods voids the warranty but the quality is so good I don't need a warranty.

Good to see you guys have the log propped up off the ground, your chains will stay sharp longer than most. I like that 620 too.

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

Dulled many cutting firewood lol

@christopherdekonstrukt444

11 ай бұрын

I'm cutting down a stump and already trashed a cheap Salem Master 20". I started using a Sawzall for any wood that touches the dirt like the root system.

The port timing on the 620 is completely diffrent. Timing is everything. Thats the big difference in power.

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know! Thank you sir!

@TheKcdub1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations you are welcome.

@livewithnick

2 жыл бұрын

I own both. I don’t see a “big” difference in power.

@TheKcdub1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@livewithnick for the same cc there is a noticeable difference in power. If you can't tell the difference then your saws arnt running rite.

I had a heck of a time deciding between these 2 just a short time ago. Ended up getting the CS-590 24" (because it is such a bargain) from Saw Suppliers and am not disappointed. Only about 10 tanks through it so far but it rips. Already threw the chain once working on a stump though and boogered it up (rim sprocket would be nice). I don't think Stihl and Husqvarna have anything that can compete with this saw for less than $550. Echo kills em power for dollar. When I think back to when I purchased my Stihl ms250 "on sale" for $300, I had to buy additional chain to replace the lame safety chain that it came with plus a bunch of overpriced oil just to get the extended warranty that Echo includes right off the bat. I probably paid as much for that weak ass thing as I did for the Timberwolf. The 620p is still a great deal, I just wish Echo would upgrade the air filter to something like what the 7310p has. Then, it would be a lot easier to justify the extra $.

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like you still made a great choice. Echo is swinging hard with their pricing and warranty. I agree there is nothing that Husqvarna or Stihl have that can run with the 590 for the same price(or really even $100 more). I am in the same boat probably about 10 tanks through my 620 but I love it! Starting to do some Timberframe work this week with this and my Husqvarna 240.

@dentondunn4346

Жыл бұрын

You can buy an aftermarket filter for it. My suggestion is do either a pipe mod or have someone do a muffler mod for you, Iowa Performance Saw's done mine and retuned it and it's a beast compared to factory and it runs cooler too making it last longer. I'll probably buy the 600p clutch cover for mine with the captive bar nuts and another thing, out an O-ring in the air filter and it will keep the contaminates out. They're cheap too..

@dentondunn4346

Жыл бұрын

When time comes the spur spocket needs changed buy the rim sprocket and then when it needs changed again after that it will only cost you $5 instead of $35 to $50..

@waynejohnson9855

Жыл бұрын

I ran a guys 590 and was impressed with it, seemed like it ran a long time on a tank of fuel also.

Great video, thanks for taking the time to make it. Do you like the full wrap handle on the 620?

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

At first I did not however the more I use it it’s grown on me.

Thanks for the review guys. I’m in the same both where I couldn’t decide between both. just bought the land and I’m kind of short financialy, with all the expenses ahead. I think I just made up my mind. I’ll get the 590 and the seller agreed to drop me a better chain for free. I’ll just be waiting fir the 15% off on anything echo purchase. Since I’ll be using my tax exception I think overall it’ll be a great deal. Thx for the video

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you won’t be disappointed! With the 590 being a little lighter your most likely not going to notice the difference for just regular residential use. Appreciate the reply!

Hello, Ive a Cs 590. Nice tool ... but. I would change my clutch cover for a Cs-621Sx ( metal and 2 dogs ). What exactly i need ? Just the clutch cover with dog and screws or more to change ? Thanks you very much !

The 620 has a bigger carburetor so it’s just a little more fuel and therefore power... a rim sprocket is much better...

Great video. I have had a ms290 for 20 years. Cut firewood every year. Only had to put a new oiler in it. I want a 27 inch bar to cut wood on the ground. You can't put a 27 inch on the 590?

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

I know you can get 18 and 20 not sure anything bigger. I should see if my 24” from my 620 works on the 590

@TornadoCrewStormChasers

Жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations they advertise the 24 as an option for the 590. Maybe they figure the 590 can't handle the 27

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

@@TornadoCrewStormChasers I’d bet it probably would struggle a bit with a 27. I’m sure it could do it just probably not the most effective

@TornadoCrewStormChasers

Жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations I bought the cs590 new with 24inch. Your video helped. BTW the 24 inch is no problem running.

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

@@TornadoCrewStormChasers good to know! It’s a bad little saw for the money.

Problem is the 590 doesn't come with a 27" bar, and the 620 does have that option. So if you want bigger from the start you're going to have to buy the bigger bar and chain afterwards with the 590, while the 620 can be bought with the 20, 24, and 27 equipped. It's very weird to me that Echo complicates things and offers these in different configurations, with slight price differences that make no sense. I agree the 590 is a great buy especially at $459 for the 24".

@southernyankeeinnovations

24 күн бұрын

You’d think they’d allow them to be configured the same. I know people knock echo but for their price point and quality I’m not sure those people have actually used them and put them to the test.

excellent video, I have 2 590's and was wondering if I could justify a 620 It appears not, my wife is happy now.

@redartisanwolf6716

3 жыл бұрын

I also have 2 590s got a 620 today . Not disappointed

Run the same length bar on both saws and watch the time cut difference. Much more than a second or two. I have both saws. I run a 20 & 24 inch bar on my 590. My 620p has a 28in bar that stays on it. The 620 with the 28in out cuts the 590 with the 20in by more than 5 seconds. The 620 has a half horsepower more. Saw tuning also goes a long way when the saws are tuned perfect.

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input! I’ll have to give it a shot.

@apersonontheinternet8006

3 жыл бұрын

I recently bought the 620 (probably only 6 tanks through it) and took it to my friends family property. We did a side by side comparison between the two with both having the 20" bar and the 590 took nearly twice the time to cut a red oak. I was blown away, I did not expect that big of a difference. And before anyone says anything about sharpness of the chains, my friends father was an old time logger out west and has been doing this for 40+ years whereas everything I know I learned from him. I've only been doing this for a little over 10 years now.

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

I may pick up a 20” bar for the saw. Now that my property is cleared I’m mostly working with 12-18” logs for firewood so I don’t “need” the extra bar length. Haha I can’t believe you’d think there is any haters on KZread!

@apersonontheinternet8006

3 жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations I think you'd be impressed.

i have a 600p. anyone know the differences between the 590 and 620? all i can tell is the 600 has the rim sprocket but does not have the wrap around bar?

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

So I’m not positive but I read that the 600 has a 3 stage ignition and the 620 has a 4 stage, Different carbs, Timing and porting changes, and the 600 has slightly less compression ratio.

Good vid! Will a rim sprocket for a 620 fit a 590?

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure it can be switched out

@ronaldwilkins6056

3 жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations Cool

@wvboy0311

3 жыл бұрын

Yea it will fit just get a sprocket kit for a 620 p or pw

@ronaldwilkins6056

3 жыл бұрын

@@wvboy0311 tyvm

@MegaLostOne

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have replaced the spur sprocket with the rim/drum from the 620.

My brother has a 590 with a 20 in i have the 620pw with a 27 inch and the 620 will take the 590s lunch with that much bigger of a bar all day it out does my 460 rancher with a 24 in so same displacement smaller bar amd the echo still beats it

@southernyankeeinnovations

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly for the money of that saw I don’t think any of the other brands can compete. Nothing against the other saws just hard to beat the price. Getting out and reaching with a 27” bar!

What's the best saw between the 2 saws considering I found a 600 P for $275

@southernyankeeinnovations

2 жыл бұрын

The 620 is a better saw however depending on how much your using it the 590 may do what you need it to

@dentondunn4346

2 жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations I Just bought the Echo CS590 Timberwolf and gotta say I'm very impressed with it

@southernyankeeinnovations

2 жыл бұрын

@@dentondunn4346 you’ll get hate for it because it’s not Stihl or Husqvarna but I’ll take my echo any day. For the price difference and the warranty it’s hard to beat. Their saws are a little heavier but I don’t carry it around for 6 hours a day either.

@dentondunn4346

2 жыл бұрын

@@southernyankeeinnovations I own a Stihl and I prefer my echo 2 to 1 over my Stihl. Echo for me here on out. Can't best the price, warranty or the power of the Echo. Stihl comes in 2nd place now while Husqvarna comes in 3rd.

@southernyankeeinnovations

2 жыл бұрын

@@dentondunn4346 glad to hear it! Enjoy and stay safe!

the 590 is now $450 with the 20” bar with inflation

@southernyankeeinnovations

Ай бұрын

I can’t say I’m surprised. It’s all too expensive now.

The 620 also had a bigger bar on it it looks like

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir. 24” on the 620 and 20” on the 590

24 inch bar also on 620?

@southernyankeeinnovations

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir

$200 difference. I wear an old set of motorcycle over pants when cutting. Without them I would have ended up having to get stitches on a couple occasions.

@southernyankeeinnovations

11 ай бұрын

It’s cheap insurance for sure

Super Echo dall'Italia da Castel beseno Trento

Galvoju pirkti ECHO trimeri ir grandinini pjūkla ECHO Japoniška kokybė pati patikimiausia pagarba.

590 wolf is the best saw ever owned beats sthil husky

@southernyankeeinnovations

Ай бұрын

I agree 100%

The echo commonly has flooding issues where it won't start. Even brand new.

@berhardt17

2 жыл бұрын

I have used two different cs-590 saws, cs-310 saw. Leaf blow and weed eater. Have never had this problem. Just my 2¢

@marcofemto9417

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. That's why you only choke it once and crank no more than 3 times. It'll start again for the rest of the day

@danbrooks8241

2 жыл бұрын

Why do so many people seem to have this issue in has been an awesome starter from day one Cold start Full choke pull a couple times till stutters push choke in it starts within a pull or two every time Warm start just skip the choke all together for the most part

@gustavogarcia1084

2 жыл бұрын

thats probably a user's error, it will happen with any saw if you don't know how to properly start it.. ive seen guys flood professional grade saws because they dont know how to do it..

@TheAcenightcreeper

Жыл бұрын

I had this happen with a two day old 620, everything i own is echo and i love them. I believe it happened because i carried it upside down for about a 15 minute walk into where i needed to cut. The trick with these when they flood, put the chain brake on, push the choke in, hold down on the throttle….knee on the machine…it will crank over in 2-3 pulls

Can't hear u bro.

Southern Yankee…..hmmmmmm a oxymoron……🤔

@southernyankeeinnovations

Жыл бұрын

A transplant