I think Gray was a lot less clever than he though he was. He had a decent strat, getting everybody to do everything for him so that he saved his own stuff, but he completely neglected to actually... have stuff. Or defend himself. He was all "I'm teaching everyone a lesson in diplomacy!" meanwhile the only reason why nobody was calling him out, or bothering to pay enough attention to notice was because he was pretty much irrelevant anyways.

@bufustern

10 ай бұрын

ouch

@gratifizzle

7 ай бұрын

Without grey there is no video. Appreciate

@krabsauce9792

7 ай бұрын

He played it exactly as a diplomat. Purple was done, so he sent his army in at the last second to gain Oranges trust.

I like this ungarrisonable kings version for the amount of actual fortresses we get out of it. Less stacks of castles, more layers of walls.

@RobotShield

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Love the defences

@tiestofalljays

Жыл бұрын

same!

@guidianalvarado1829

Жыл бұрын

More people pulling a fatslob XD

@HowLongDoesItTake4Dads2BuyMilk

Жыл бұрын

Fatslob? Is that you? lol

That "charge" had me in stitches. Great game. Ungarrisoned kings should be a community mod moving forward. I think it makes the game so much better.

I honestly feel like Jon is the only one that CrazyCarter actually fooled. Everyone else knew exactly what he was doing but didn't care because they were trading with him and he was the bottom score.

@josedupuydelome9486

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think grey wasn’t even that smart, he could have killed those two villagers very easily before they killed his king. He wasn’t going to win with that economy and civ, he should have fought against either yellow or orange after purple died. He got lucky no one wanted to kill him due to his low score

@BayWa4eva

2 жыл бұрын

jon was the only one winning the game as well, so you can safely say that getting fooled by grey guarantees victory - unless he actually wasn't the only one...

@benijager1372

Жыл бұрын

@@josedupuydelome9486 yeah, orange should've at least built some towers over there, it was reallly easy for gray to not die that way...

@jakemcgowan7928

Жыл бұрын

I feel like purple got completely fooled lol

CrazyCarter: barely holding on in these fights Jon: who are you fighting? CrazyCarter: I'm surprised my king ain't dead CrazyCarter: too many at this point Says this with zero kills 11 This exchange had me rotfl

@the_rover1

2 жыл бұрын

grey: *looks over empty grasslands* also grey: enemies! enemies everywhere!

@teniabryz5879

Жыл бұрын

Well, this aint work anyway, he got 3rd place, it would work if he pushed resources to build army and join war at the end with strong army. He built great diplomacy but forgot military. Thats his great mistake, and he would won, but put to much trust in diplomacy ignoring anything else. Even green player didnt kill his king , with that way of playing he would be at 2nd but never won entire game

@fukers2stop

Жыл бұрын

@@teniabryz5879 guy ended with 50k gold lmao

@BierBart12

Жыл бұрын

He was talking about his inner demons The court of his kingdom was constantly in turmoil

@poimon5607

7 ай бұрын

LMFAO @@BierBart12

As a software dev myself, I'll put it this way: Imagine you have to add a commentary track over a game recorded back in 2002, but you can't remember what the meta was back then, or what the balance differences were back then, and you don't know what the players were thinking. So you start talking about what you think the players should do, but they don't do that, so you kind of look like an idiot. Then they start building huge numbers of battering rams so you say "oh, this must have been the meta at the time" but then it's completely ineffective so it couldn't have been the meta so you look stupid again. Then you try to predict who might be the winner of this clusterbomb, but then the guy you thought was winning resigns and you look like an idiot again.

@music79075

Жыл бұрын

So clownery all the way down lol

@greatnate29

Жыл бұрын

You should be able to test things to make sure they work though. Like I get that it would make patches take forever when dealing with legacy code, but you shouldn't be constantly releasing broken patches. Like I do forget to test random junk every now and then but they shouldn't be repeatedly releasing majorly broken patches consistently.

@BankruptGreek

Жыл бұрын

​@@greatnate29Sorry for the late reply.. you forget how many variables exist outside of the game, just for a single feature to work you already have a dozen or so permutations of hardware and software and even then you don't test for all of them just a few that *might* represent every hw and software combination out there and hopefully no edge case bug happens in one of the combination left behind. And that goes on top of the in-game infinite possible behaviors that might cause memory leaks, crashes, glitches etc

Grey keep saying "a lesson in diplomacy, never trust anyone" I think he missed the more important lesson here in this game, "protect your damned king!" 🗿

Grey really hurt me in this. I thought they played so well with the diplomacy and faking everyone out. After they got gated in, I was really expecting once the fighting got going that they would send in woodcutters to cut the king out, that way they wouldn't set off any flags to orange while they were distracted. Or as Yellow suggested, get some petards. Was super disappointing, because I think they could have had a really good fighting chance in the final 2.

@apathymanthemundane4165

Жыл бұрын

thought he was gonna convert the vils with the monk right there

@kingj282

10 ай бұрын

@@apathymanthemundane4165 monks, archers, petards, so much shit he could of done.

@ZIbroweed

7 ай бұрын

Literally all he needed to do was queue up 8 archers and march them over there. There would be nothing to see until it was too late and they could kill two villagers in no time.

@Boj-Anivia

7 ай бұрын

Lol and I was even thinking about the siegetower and drop his two handed swordsman over the wall😂😂

In greys position I thought about making two monks to convert the two orange villagers.

RollerCoaster Tycoon was made in assembly, with C inserts (WinAPI hooks for open file window functionality), not binary. Nobody programs in binary since 1950's.

Since T90 didn't mention it, let me clarify what Grey tried to do when he turned on purple: He tried to replicate an epic mic drop moment from an older game, I think most of us would remember the moment, but for those who don't, this is the game (Regicide Rumble 4) : Explosive hopper tried again | RR4 1:20:17

@TactfulWaggle

Жыл бұрын

for those too lazy to search it up and skip to the timestamp, here's the link with timestamp: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rHibxZtukZPQmrw.html

@nikoyochum6974

Жыл бұрын

The dude didn’t make a single eco building, no way he knew that

@ayush885

Жыл бұрын

@@nikoyochum6974 the phrasing is exactly the same. It cannot be a coincidence, considering that grey is a member of the community, it stands to reason that he would've seen that game.

@nigeypants5500

Жыл бұрын

@@nikoyochum6974 The dude wasn't here to play the game anyway, just play the chat. I'm sure he'd do many things differently if he were interested in doing any combat. He just annoyed me tho. I wish he had some endgame strat to it

you could do a weekly event called "king of the week" where its a regicide game and the first person to kill a king wins, I think it could be fun to see what people try to do to get that first kill

@the_rover1

2 жыл бұрын

but ban civs that are op in mid game. like mongols. too easy for an early king snipe.

@Alb410

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_rover1 that just means everyone has to gang up on the mongol player

@mitchl5220

2 жыл бұрын

everyone just needs to focus one player, right?

@robertlewis6915

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchl5220 Ideal strategy is to get everybody else to focus on somebody else, then snipe your neighbor while his military is off at the front lines.

@circumcisionismurder7415

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I want to see more feudal aggression not post imp

Haha, gray was amazing in this, what a player - he perfectly recognized what seems to be the current community game meta (everyone into big alliances, no aggression for a while), but put himself into all the alliances on the whole map. Literally just larping an entirely different game in the chat, while doing nothing on the field. Great job, even though his lack of skill seemed to finally get him in the end. Doesnt even matter that most players probably just ignored him because he wasnt threatening: it still worked, and put him into top 3 without any problems.

@cpt.mystic_stirling

Жыл бұрын

Noted. Be someone to trade with and plant the seeds of doubt…

@SeraphimRoad

Жыл бұрын

He was little finger of Game of Thrones

@tkcometh

Жыл бұрын

@@SeraphimRoad "Chaos is a ladder" -CrazyCarter

@lordsathariel4384

Жыл бұрын

@@tkcometh the amount of strat games iv won just by being civil with everyone is so stupid as they say a man with no motive is a man no one suspects

Grey is the goofiest player I've ever seen

This was an amazing diplo game, glad to see people still pulling off unique strats after all these years

I had literally just thought "Grey is over here playing The Game of Thrones" when you said if he was anyone he would be Littlefinger. Love it. I was really hoping Grey would win. He was such a legend. He should have pretended to launch on yellow so orange wouldn't kill him instead of pretending to launch on orange. The fight was happening on orange so he could have told orange he was counter-attacking yellow, while telling yellow he was coming to defend him from orange's possible counter attack. Basically, buy himself time for orange to fall and free his King, then he is already in yellow's base to attack once orange falls.

I'm imagining every grey twohanded swordsman as rising drama actors doing stunts on the battlefield while everyone else is dying around them

lmao grey was a legend but he went out with such a wimper.. great game

@ryanallen1328

Жыл бұрын

honestly kind of perfect for the story. the schemer is finally apprehended and goes down without much of a real fight haha

@justinrice5405

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanallen1328 Basically Littlefinger.

I was really hoping purple would manage to evacuate his king after yellow and orange turned on each other

@WhatIsSanity

Жыл бұрын

Would have been poetic justice for purple to nuke one of the players that betrayed them. Like grey or yellow.

CrazyCarter's response "too many at this point". Hahaha!!! Classic

"Grey, How many guys you fighting!?"😆

41:13 - "Grey is like the guy who texts 'i love you babe' to ten girls at once" lol perfect

It's too bad how often people in these Community Games forget they have a nucleair bomb at their disposal, especially on a map like this where everyone is cramped up on an island...

@felicityc

Жыл бұрын

it's always surprising when they just don't go ghosts and go siege tanks instead.

@sakanagakyoko

Жыл бұрын

Man i didnt know america was in aoe2

''I'm playing both sides so i always come out on top'' Grey Mac

I am sure orange used villagers because they don't seem like a threat until they build a dungeon for your own king in your own kingdom.

i wish i still had friends to play this with. i miss the simple days.

This was the first time I've legit LOL'ed at an AOE2 game. Very fun. Thank you.

@kingj282

10 ай бұрын

chaaaaaarge!

Grey was insane. I really wanted him to come out with the win, and 0 kills.

@SH4D0W0733

Жыл бұрын

Some would call him crazy.

@that_one_momo_guy

6 ай бұрын

@@SH4D0W0733 Others call him Carter

When I saw "Seasons" and "Kings Cannnot Garrison" I died laughing because I thought you were calling the bug a seasonal feature. Next season we'll get walk-through walls again!

I was waiting for Grey to just send one or two swordsmen next to each king at the same time and declare war for an instant victory.

Would have been super interesting to see grey try to get out of his hostage situation. That or truly allying with orange were his two outs and he didn't do either of them.

@ncsupi

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, did he get Onagers? I don't know all the tech trees so well these days. Seems like there was a chance to cut his way out.

THE LEGEND OF CLUELESS

this video is mistitled. This is definitely deserving of legend status. The Legend of CrazyCarter. Born of BlueCoffee. Edit: nevermind. Not saving his king after 10 minutes of being trapped though he couldve just sent some ranged units means he cant have that title yet, but his diplo was nuts.

@assolutobisonte7040

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, if Orange saw suspected a build up of ranged units, and I'm assuming grey didn't make archery, then he would have started to kill off the king before the units came close enough. Also same with a build up of petards, although grey could have garrisoned the petards in castle (I'm not sure if allys can look in other ally's castles). It was kind of a difficult position. I have to agree, I think grey should have at least tried to do something just after he typed Chaaarrrge.

I was so hoping for grey to come out late with three commando teams to sneak up to the three kings while everyone was fighting each other and simultaneously kill 3 kings for the win.

@InservioLetum

Жыл бұрын

Same here, but the title is why I thought that, because it really wasn't a strong showing in actual gameplay, from grey

6:33 is an iconic mouse impression. "Woo wee hey guys! Have you put on your think-ing caps?! ha-ha" x'D

Someone in chat said it well. What gray was doing would have been so much cooler if he weren't trying to talk about it. He's probably imagining himself saying that as he slides the dagger into a trusted ally's belly, seeing the shock on their face as they struggle with disbelief with their last breaths. But talking about it just made him sound like an edgy 12-year-old.

LOL I feel like most people knew exactly what grey was up to but is so weak, they didn't care.

Grey showing off that Bach. Of Diplomacy from Dunning-Kruger College

Crazy Carter was being a slippery lying SOAB the whole time

When yellow asked grey who he's fighting, grey should have said "These ridiculous savings you'll get with my finest trade depots."

I was fully expecting gray to tell orange and yellow that he'd help defend their gates with putting a few units there, then quickly assassinating both kings while they were distracted with the battle.

Man, gray making orange and yellow super paranoid near the end game was great. And purple missed a golden opportunity to explode his king onto yellow or gray near the end.

Gray is such a genius. He lied like a politician. Make people thought that he's helping but actually doing nothing. If he rescued his king and then go all out, he could have won like an underdog.

"He died as he lived " 🤣🤣🤣🤣

A fitting end to connor, losing his king in the most humiliating way possible, truly one of the villain arcs...

"chaaaaaarge!" 😂😂😂😂

Grey had me belly laughing

A king garrisoning compromise could be that if a king is in a castle his position is visible to everyone, so it's a tradeoff of defense vs. stealth.

As an engineer, I think the best way to think about code bases (and specifically spaghetti code bases) is to compare it to the law. As I live in the US and IANAL, these are just my impressions, but: - Code is similar to the law in that terms and definitions need to be highly precise/exact; if that exactness is incorrect in some way, all sorts of things can go wrong. What comes to mind is rich people using tax breaks which were meant for farmers to pay for their expensive equipment to buy giant SUVs. Things being just slightly wrong can cause all kinds of problems. - Additionally, laws are built in the context of other laws, and are typically additive. So, comparing that to code, usually when we code we have to always consider how our changes will impact existing systems (so, saved games? recorded games? network play systems?) - Laws are written with practical constraints in mind. And things are written into them to "work around" the practical problems. This is extremely true in code as well, where computation devices may have limited memory, processor speed, etc. Overall, there are a ton of parallels. I've been wanting to write this up some more, but I think this generally communicates the idea.

@McCrackenJoel

2 жыл бұрын

The main thing I forgot to point out is that its not simple to "refactor" code, or to "refactor" laws; large changes in any complex system virtually always has unintended consequences, and typically any change will make things worse before it gets better (if indeed it does get better, instead of actually just making things worse) So for a code base like aoe2 which was written years ago, lots of code was probably written in particular ways for efficiency purposes, and its very hard to make changes without unintended consequences. And, even simply making the code better is hard because again of unintended consequences.

7:12 - Rollercoaster Tycoon being written in Assembly actually makes it super fucking portable. It will run on a potato with couple wires stuck in it. It will run on your microwave.

gray is the personification of "chaos is a ladder"

Honestly, grey was entertaining, but also so frustrating. I'm a very honest and transparent person, so his double dealing was giving me anxiety and just thoroughly angering me. 😂

imagine playing monopoly with grey, he could sell you your own railways

It would be cool to get a rundown from the Capture Age people on what CA considers an effective action. For example, I'd like to know if queueing up 5 at a time would be counted as 1 action or 5. This might help with the whole credibility issue.

Left this match playing on the background while focusing on other stuff, so i'm lacking most of the context. Reaching now the 1 hour mark, it hurts to see that 3v1 against purple, had no idea how it even reached this situation. If it was me in his place, would sneak some villagers to build a dock on his island's east, make a transport ship, and nuke my king into yellow's shore. It most likely wouldn't cause his loss, but would cause enough damage on his structure, taking some towers and maybe castles, purely out of spite (:

Trade spikes: Read my past comments or read this one: MARKET USE counts. Hit that market button 4-5 times in 2 seconds and you've pushed your APM for that moment up into the 80-100 range. EDIT -- APM spikes even

Killing someone’s king with villagers is just straight up disrespectful…. LMAO 😂 😂 😂

@t3hmaniac

2 жыл бұрын

Its a peasant revolt

I like how this is a game of war but still they're still friends..

crazy carter is legit the neutral planet from futurama

don't worry T90. At the competitive level of every game every update is a time of existential dread.

CrazyCarter is literally little finger lmao

Gray could just have sent his monk up to heal his king, or even made a couple more monks in his monestary. Had he done so, he would have stood a good chance of surviving orange's "betrayal".

Grey must think he is pretty smart meanwhile he was the kid in the corner eating glue that everyone ignored.

Grey is a fuggin legend, what an absolute MAD lad

Classic lines uttered before a betrayal: "The Lannisters send their regards" -Game of Thrones, "Long Live the King" - Lion King, all garbage before "Never trust anyone" -AoE2 dude

This is how a true politician wins wars, by manipulating his opponents with words alone.

Grey was like Littlefinger if he had taken over the Iron Bank instead of trying for the Iron Throne

Noticed some bugs with achievements unlocking when the shouldn't, like I was doing the El Cid Scenario and made 10 Bombard Canon's on the 5th mission iirc and the achievement unlocked for making 10 Houfnieces as Bohemians (only playing campaign in order and haven't played bohemians prior) Same for the Dravidians win playing the Gurjara campaign all very strange Also if you want the 1000 monk conversions the 5 Gurjara mission where you convert the Raja's all the buildings (including walls) count as conversions getting you the achievement lightning quick

this is too good lmfaoo well played carter.

this kind of fight is the most fun and chaotic cause anything can happen and it'll just be a massive all out war

I really hoped purple would think of sending his king to the far right of his island. I wonder if he would have taken yellow down with him that way 😂

@dabestgrimmreaper3429

Жыл бұрын

Walk the king right up to yellows gate like, what? you gonna shoot? lol

I think the gray game was most interesting. He was a merchant that scammed everyone and then some angry victims, the villagers, came by to share their minds to the manager. He didn't kill anyone and died to villagers.

T90 savage with dis @ 39:24 hahahahhaha

@tonaaaay5351

2 жыл бұрын

And again at 45:28 wish I watched it live 😂

Lmao gray is over here with Speech Level 100, and Level 0 Combat 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hey @T90 I'm a big fan of a secondary voiceless commentator pointing out key points☝ ☝ Big fan. Now we never miss anything.

Teal getting rekt by red and blue passing through their ally gray territory. Gray to teal: "blue is killing me, man"

And the hilarious part is him getting 3rd place through it. T90 went on and on how Carter/Grey should be doing more. But it worked. Grey got there by not playing the same game as everyone else. Grey was kept alive for trade in addition to bottom scoring. So what ended up happening is all the higher scorers were battling each other to preserve the trade lines. And the best part? You can blame paulhockey/green for setting up the whole alliance thing in the first place. Grey just picked up where green left off.

I think Grey played that so well, but once his king was gated he needed to move it or do something to change the position cause it kind of made his ending anti-climatic.

Grey played like we all imagine wed play. This cunning sneak making everyone think that hes on their side until the end.

meh I doubt people really believed gray - and it was just a case "can't be bothered to send military, he's not going to fight me anyways either".

lmao Carter with the underdog diplo strats

@yep8058

Жыл бұрын

1:11:50 Carter what the fuck lol

He should've sent his king to some other player's base (Let's say yellow). So if yellow turns, then yellow base gets destroyed.

Characterization testing is the technique to use to avoid breaking functionality when maintaining legacy software.

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like Crazycarter is just a 10 year old playing with a bunch of adults lol

I really need more CrazyCarter chat games.

T90 is wholesome and remembers his morals.

Gray is my spirit animal.

i got a bad idea, the king now explodes inmediately

lmao the DRAMA in this stream

it should be a policy that the winner always gets a guarantee to participate in the next game if they want to. Thatd up the competition lol

grey is the absolute definition of a fake friend lmao

Chivalry Medieval Warfare is my favorite game ever.

... Grey pulled a Jewry.

Well done by Orange. Grey's trickery turned against himself!!! 🙂

Best play for grey would have been to make towers or a castle to attack the villagers the moment they attacked, that or archers out of orange's view range

With exploding kings, why does no one just place their king in their allies base, sort of like a gun to the head. "Keep my kind safe or else..."

God I love the cocasting, made this so much funnier.

I played a game with my brother and we thought it was a quirk of the map we chose. He ended up placing his king behind a castle behind walls cornered into a forest. If only I could have gotten one treb there...

26:55: Lol resigned the game or resigned the job? Lmao.

What a rollercoaster of emotions this game was. Not being able to Garrison the king really F'd what could've been a much more exciting game. Pretty sure Grey would've been found out sooner.