My favorite Men the Master story: Power goes out in the middle of a poker tournament. When the lights come back on Jean-Robert Bellande yells out, "New chip leader, Men the Master!"

@Brazz27

11 күн бұрын

LOL

@worldvaleur

11 күн бұрын

Fuck that's some funny shit!

@CMichael2276

11 күн бұрын

That is hilarious 🤣

@kostanikas3881

11 күн бұрын

Amazing. That’s poker. Brutal needles

@itsredbowtie

11 күн бұрын

😂

Seriously, allowing cheaters in the game is BAD for the game. Should be banned from tournaments.

@SteveSherman-me9lp

9 күн бұрын

Wasn’t his fault dealer didn’t do the job not his responsibility

@seankelley1442

8 күн бұрын

He took the chips. Yes, it is his fault. WTF?

@marvincotton1919

8 күн бұрын

Think about it. Villains have always played poker. It's good for the game. In a Gotham city type of way lol

@penknight8532

7 күн бұрын

You would have no game if you threw out all the cheaters.

@thomashenshallhydraxis

6 күн бұрын

As I see poker; it’s for cheaters, degenerates, MC’s, lawless people, criminals… 😝 he fits perfectly. I’ve been playing since 2004. I met a lot of lowlifes.

What the hell was the dealer doing while Men was pulling his chips back out??

@1973scotta

11 күн бұрын

As much as there is no doubt men is a genuine scumbag, all that clip shows is him getting his chips back from the side pot.

@gislo

11 күн бұрын

yeah, thats what i thought too which makes it much weirder

@tagsantov338

11 күн бұрын

Casinos should pay better AND get better help

@TrthWrld

11 күн бұрын

Apparently not doing their job

@davidnguyen5422

11 күн бұрын

bro the wsop dealers are the worst ive ever seen. if you are involved in the hand, you better watch everything closely. ive had to chop up pots myself and tell the dealers which hands have won while playing. tread with extreme caution. they will literally let anyone deal the wsop

Poker dealer here. ALWAYS sort out your main pot BEFORE running out a board. If a player says "just rip it," the dealer should respond, "please allow me to make the pot right." And make the pot right first!! There are multiple side pots? Sort those first the run the board!

@Alec-cs4ri

11 күн бұрын

Yep. I used to say "No, I need to make sure the pot is right." I would never run the board unless I had all the pots right.

@webguy943

11 күн бұрын

Depends its theres massive amounts of chips itll take too long to sort out if everyone has diff chip stacks so they will just run it n figure it out cuz if the chip leader busts everyone then all chips goes to him n nothing to sort out so there r situations to be faster

@acesandroses

11 күн бұрын

Dealer here. My go to line is “I’m gonna make everyone mad but I’m going to make the main pot first” for a three way all in. I developed that as a new dealer when players would egg me on to just run the board out.

@ImDougie

11 күн бұрын

Or, or, just do it after, if everyone’s allin already, but do it after correctly. : )

@vamoneygroup

11 күн бұрын

Where are the cameras?

Kick that cheater out of all tournaments

@MewtwoStruckBack

11 күн бұрын

No, there's something else that should be done in cheaters, that was specifically mentioned as what was the norm by THIS CHANNEL during the wild west days. We need to go back to that.

@penknight8532

7 күн бұрын

@@MewtwoStruckBack You don't hang a tinhorn, you run him out of town.

@MewtwoStruckBack

7 күн бұрын

@@penknight8532 Why spare their life though? Exile and death both remove the cheater, but the chance of starting over in a new town might still let the cheater think their conduct has an out if they get caught.

@_gatsby

5 күн бұрын

don't be jealous he was smarter than the table

What was the dealer doing during this hand? As a former dealer I would lose my shit if I saw a player reaching into the pot while I was sorting out the hands and the winnings.

@Ethaniel67

11 күн бұрын

Not just that, but the pots should have been separated before it even started to prevent this. Pull in the short pot (standard I thought) and leave the two others in front. ALSO I saw him celebrating and NOT watching the pot. Celebrate after you have the pot settled.

@motown867

11 күн бұрын

@@Ethaniel67 100%

@fuhkerz

11 күн бұрын

Maybe you can help me out since you used to deal.. It's been a few years since I played but I'd swear I've seen dealers leave large all-in bets in front of the player rather than moving everything into fhe pot. I could be crazy, but I just have this mental image of seeing players taking down their last bet after an all-in chop then being given their half of the pot that WAS in the middle. In which case, that could very well be what we see Men doing in this video. In that case, the mistake would be that the dealer just failed to pull the appropriate amount out of each stack to call Smittys bet for the main pot. Just a thought because at first it didn't seem unusual to me to see Men taking down his last bet given that the side pot chopped. Also, it seems like other people at the table would be screaming like crazy if he were straight up pulling the chips out of the pot when he wasn't supposed to. Even if the dealer somehow missed that, I doubt the whole table would have.

@motown867

11 күн бұрын

@@fuhkerz you are supposed bring all bets in. I am not going to lie, I have definitely left big stacks in front of the players, but it would still be my responsibility to make sure that players do not touch anything until the pot is settled. On the player side it is still the responsibility of the player to protect his interest at all times. The winning player should have been paying attention instead of celebrating.

@OhDearAudrey

11 күн бұрын

@@fuhkerz Yes this is exactly what happened. Basically a witch hunt on this guy because of his history. He assumed like most players would that the side pot had already been separated, the other AK in the pot started to pull their chips in so he did too.

The WSOP should be ashamed of itself for the bush league way it handled this incident. No way this poker player should still be allowed to be playing in the WSOP.

Men "The Angle" Nguyen. I remember playing High Limit poker way back in the late 1990's. - 1998. I saw Men discreetly take a few chips off a player stack (player who left the table to take breaks) , especially when he had to pay the waitress or server there tips. Off to the side, I alerted the poker room manager and he said Men knew the player and he was ordering him something for him too. Ok...Thats what I get trying to be the table police. A few hands later Men moved or cashed out. When Men left the table he glared at me and said something in Vietnamese. Later 3 different Asian / Vietnamese dudes kept following me. So there you go.....

@blake_lively_matters6553

7 күн бұрын

You can't just use the word 'there' wherever you want. Sometimes, it's the right word. Sometimes, their is called for, or even they're.

@LEFTaTIP

7 күн бұрын

@@blake_lively_matters6553 , Well....thank you for the reminder. I will remember that in my next write ups. Have a great Day !!!!

@mattydips2887

7 күн бұрын

@@LEFTaTIPthanks for that story

@LEFTaTIP

7 күн бұрын

@@mattydips2887 , Yw. Did you play at any of the LA Casinos.....??

@goodlucking244

6 күн бұрын

@@blake_lively_matters6553 At least they got it right the second time around “So there you go…..”

Another aspect is they should never have the bad dealers deal this deep in an event. Like for all 10ks and the other day 2s and 3s have the better dealers deal.

@tylerberg4360

11 күн бұрын

Seems pretty obvious that they should only have experienced dealers when it gets close to and at the ft , common sense isn't so common nowadays though

@mr.monologue7613

9 күн бұрын

@@tylerberg4360especially the higher buyins, players deserve that

@DatAceTho

8 күн бұрын

It's harder than you think. The bigger or more important tournaments are harder to deal, so are you punishing the competent dealers? Or if the competent dealers are making more money, that's hard to balance, too.

@DatAceTho

8 күн бұрын

I don't even disagree; they should have good dealers for the most important spots. I'm just saying it's not simple.

@YuriTarded-hf1nv

7 күн бұрын

Team degen!!! Whaddup!!

You're assuming any of these people that are responsible for the security of the game, are good at their jobs. This alone proves they indeed are NOT.

@webguy943

11 күн бұрын

Had same experience at casino. Dealer cheated me out some chips. Casino said they looked at the cameras n found nothing. 100% incompetent or lied cuz i knew exactly how many chips i had n i was missing some

@gswdeclan

11 күн бұрын

There are a lot of good floormen who have a hard time dealing with emotional assholes, degens, drunks, etc... But a lot of them just want to take a bribe to move your name up the list and do as little as humanly possible to not get fired.

@nikvalinsky

10 күн бұрын

Hanlon's Razor

@Mitjitsu

9 күн бұрын

A lot of it depends on who the players are. This happened in a cash game my friend was playing last year. When two players with explosive tempers got into an argument. When one of them started moaning about bad beats despite the fact he was winning a lot and put a couple of nasty coolers on other players at the table. Understandably one of the players who plays a ton of roulette didn't take kindly to it given he was done a lot during the night, which escalated into a war of words, then chairs getting thrown and finally the game getting broken up. The casino then decided to ban the player who complaining about bad beats for a year, and took no action against the other player, because he was too valuable a customer for them.

@joegonzalez1941

8 күн бұрын

Gamblers are all crooks, nothing to see here😅

Men's body language says it all. He knew what he was doing.

@defeatignorance8681

11 күн бұрын

He's been dirty and sleazy for decades. Why he is still around around a poker table I don't know.

@meepk633

11 күн бұрын

Are you real familiar with Men's bodies? Are you good at reading them? Could you read Men's bodies in the dark? Maybe you've said something like "You really know what you're doing" while reading Men's bodies?

@fafafohigh69

11 күн бұрын

Sharks eat fish that don't understand basics of poker; you are sitting at the table with dirtbags much of the time

@dr.options

11 күн бұрын

@meepk633 I guess I need to watch the video again...I don't recall any of the criteria that you just described for your fantasy evening being applicable here. Also, none of those being satisfied would detract from how obviously guilty Men is. Grow up, skippy.

@ARAKARABLUE

11 күн бұрын

Morons, the dealer botched. And that dude brings heat. Bunch of cry babies. All hearsay.

We really can’t be surprised that Men was involved. Now let’s be clear, the fault lies with the dealer. The dealer did not maintain the pot or control the action appropriately. The dealer never brought all the money into the middle matching the small stack as they are taught to do. Men, being the enterprising player that he is, pulled his stack back because he noticed the dealer never pulled in the money. Another player and we can chalk it up to possibly being an honest mistake in all the excitement because people were distracted by a bust out. But with Men, there is absolutely no doubt he did this knowing exactly what he was doing. The man is scum.

Wsop event and there isn’t a good camera over the table to see where the chips went 🤨🤨🤨

@bwalsh1105

11 күн бұрын

when it's not their money on the line, they don't seem to care as much.

@emt52889

11 күн бұрын

Casino don't care. It's not blackjack or paigow

@bwalsh1105

11 күн бұрын

Plus they already get their rake revenue through entry fees so even less incentive to care and also with the number of poker tables and event rooms to handle them, it’s not entirely feasible. However, any tournament that gets to the money especially when it’s a smaller field should be under better scrutiny.

@aheroictaxidriver3180

11 күн бұрын

They're SECURITY cameras, not poker cameras.

@wilfredovazquez4953

11 күн бұрын

@@aheroictaxidriver3180 exactly my point, SECURITY cameras. Shouldn’t SECURITY cameras be able to see the chips being taken? Otherwise, why are they there? It’s only to protect themselves, not the players.

If he knows the floor isn't going to do anything about it, why not just try this all the time. Sounds like a Nguyen Nguyen situation

@donaldpaluga

11 күн бұрын

ISWYDT

@NoOne-ki3bm

11 күн бұрын

😂

@danj8185

9 күн бұрын

I see what you did there

Poker will remain a game of degenerates and shady characters because the casinos ensure it remains this way. The game could be bigger and less controversial if the casinos ran the show strictly by the rules.

@DreamChaaaserrrrR

10 күн бұрын

Shut up

As a Vietnamese American poker player, we do not claim him, Men "the cheater"

@BaoNguyenTP

11 күн бұрын

No Vietnamese poker players respect him! He's fucking mean!

@kanelives2895

11 күн бұрын

Bro, you should check your username before posting that...

@davidmendez8185

11 күн бұрын

​@kanelives2895 "check your privilege bro"

@kanelives2895

11 күн бұрын

@@davidmendez8185 Checked it, still 6 inches.

@pauleagle6281

9 күн бұрын

It's about the standard of society. Let talk about the corruption of government officials. For some countries, any amount of corrections is considered bad. But there are many countries that small amount of corruption by government officials is OK. It's normal. For some ethnic background, I always use the term... the default is xxx until proven otherwise.

Guarantee it's Men's fault. But there wouldn't have even been an issue if the dealer would have made the main pot correct before putting out the river

@xerowolf4242

11 күн бұрын

Exactly this. I was really wondering the whole time why this wasn't mentioned. I know that Men has been known to shoot angles in the past, but he is really old and it's entirely possible that he didn't even realize what he was doing here. He tied for the side pot and would in fact just take his chips back and he could have easily assumed that the dealer already made the main pot right before he did this. That being said, he should have just given the chips up when it was pointed out that they were missing. He definitely is at fault at that point.

@apecoins

11 күн бұрын

@@xerowolf4242Exactly my thoughts, couldn’t have written it better myself! 💯 why Doug didn’t mention this is beyond me.

@southerncharity7928

11 күн бұрын

No need. It is standard to wait till it’s over. If the ace kings won, it would be different.

@tito4272

11 күн бұрын

​@southerncharity7928 it's not standard. I've been a dealer for 15 years. You're always supposed to make the main pot correct, then figure the sidepot after if it's 3-way

@southerncharity7928

11 күн бұрын

@@tito4272 is that you, men? Lol

What's nuts is the dealer asks the floor to come "help count" the chips in the full video

I was approached by Men's minions back in 2004 to be part of his stable. I was told explicitly to play normal, but if I'm at a table with Men, to never raise him and to make sure I fold to any of his bets. I never saw it, but did hear about other horses chip dumping to him, too. I declined the "honor" and actually busted Men from a tournament at Hollywood Park the next week lol

@jamess9037

11 күн бұрын

Thats awesome, love when cheaters lose

@sawmill035

11 күн бұрын

If true, that's awesome!

@officialghetty

9 күн бұрын

What was supposed to be in it for you?

@valalicante6455

9 күн бұрын

I heard that too, from some Vietnamese players.

@MikeO8585

9 күн бұрын

Stable collusion is rife

How can they possibly say just keep going when everyone knew he was short the right amount?! That’s absolutely insane

@mrhumble2937

11 күн бұрын

How do they know what he started with,?

@fuhkerz

11 күн бұрын

​@@mrhumble2937That would have been the first bit of information they had when he went all-in. From there, it's pretty easy to figure out. There were 2.5m in from blinds and antes, then Smitty got called by 2 players on a 4.525m bet. So if, at the start of the next hand, Smitty had less than 16.075m, something is wrong. Given that the amount missing is basically equal to the amount of Smittys original stack, it seems likely that the dealer simply forgot to take that amount from one of the other two players all-in bets to settle up the main pot. So while I definitely would BET that Men did this, and did it intentionally, it's also possible that it was the other bigger stack or that Men didn't even notice that the dealer failed to take out the portion for the main pot.

@6thwilbury2331

11 күн бұрын

​@@fuhkerz I hate to say it, because I'd like nothing more for there to be - at last - hard evidence of Men cheating. But there is definitely a chance Smith had his starting stack wrong. All of this is largely predicated on what Smith says was his starting stack, then what he had when the next hand began. But again, I want to be wrong about this. I want there to be good camera footage of Men visibly pulling his chips back before the dealer and floor sorted the pots (which we DO have) plus footage of that amount affecting the various pot sizes (which we don't have, at least not from that one Tweet). We've been hearing about Men's cheating forever now, but there has never been anything more than accusations and allegations. I want to use my "one time" on finding irrefutable evidence of Men pulling a fast one on this dealer.

@mrhumble2937

10 күн бұрын

@fuhkerz how would they know what he had before hand? Do they keep track of that stuff after every hand?

@imalwaysbluffing

9 күн бұрын

@@mrhumble2937 there was an a count for the all in amount of course

WSOP shows once again they have no idea what to do as soon as an inch of trouble comes along in their tournament.

Men was heard saying more rake was better as he pulled the chips back in.

@ScottiMusicNow

11 күн бұрын

Booooooooooo

@aheroictaxidriver3180

11 күн бұрын

GG

This is what's confusing me, I used to be a croupier /dealer. One time a very good customer (friendly, funny, female) slapped my hand as a joke while I was dealing blackjack and she lost and I reached to pick up her bet. In my house that's fine. In the casino premises there are laws. One of them is never touch the dealer. (several reasons why not to from against cheating rulers to money laundering and safety). She was kicked out on the spot. Nobody was happy for doing so. Men shouldn't be allowed in the perimeter. I'm afraid to say but, if you're cheating for years and years in Vegas and still be able to walk in casinos, well, you might have friends in high places. In every aspect it's the casinos fault. 1. He shouldn't be allowed to play in first place. 2. Where is the pit boss when men pulls his stack back? 3. Why there is no pause-camera check-paying the player the correct amount? This is casino security. It's on the licence that you have to provide a safe environment for gaming.

Nguyen has always reminded me of that guy hosting the Russian Roulette game in The Deer Hunter. Absolutely vile.

This is why I quit playing poker. It's not the cheaters, it the institutions that are supposed to protect the integrity of the game. They continue to fail at safe and fair play, yet they continue to rake in huge profits for doing so.

@johnwhittle5730

9 күн бұрын

You quit because your a losing player 🐠🐡

@mikejones-we9eo

9 күн бұрын

@@johnwhittle5730 good one 👍

@user-ob1sb1wf5p

9 күн бұрын

Least bro doesn't have to pirate switch games brokie

Love the content and humor mixed in with the news, good coverage Doug

I still can't believe that Feldman let the joke bet slide. Players feelings aside, you have to protect the integrity of the game.

@winningbackthegirl

11 күн бұрын

@@ericpetersen8155 he caved like a child and adelstein pretty much had to stand up for him.

@nicholi2789

11 күн бұрын

It was bullshit for the floor to make it Ryan’s decision. The floor is the one who needed to grow some balls and make an absolute ruling. Which he did not. He put it all on Ryan.

@nicholi2789

11 күн бұрын

It was bullshit for the floor to make it Ryan’s decision. The floor is the one who needed to grow some balls and make an absolute ruling. Which he did not. He put it all on Ryan.

@webguy943

11 күн бұрын

Yup no balls feldmen. Floor manager also had no balls

@aheroictaxidriver3180

11 күн бұрын

This is a big conspiracy. It's called ELECTION INTERFERENCE. You don't want Armenian Mike to be Mayor because you know he would drain the swamp.

How is nobody putting any blame on the dealer?

@wreagfe

11 күн бұрын

Because they have a "hard job".

@6thwilbury2331

11 күн бұрын

Plenty of people were (and are).

@coachpete327

11 күн бұрын

@@6thwilbury2331 Ah. Okay. I’ve only seen this video, Negreanu’s video, and read the Scott Seiver thread. Hadn’t seen anybody mention the dealer

@4llenjames

11 күн бұрын

@@wreagfe Why aren't you paying attention to your hand, chips, etc as a player? You just walk in and put a blindfold on and expect everyone to cater to you like an infant? Dealers do have a hard job. Dealing is easy. Dealing with people like you is what makes it hard.

@California_Poker

11 күн бұрын

100% on the dealer

Where WAS the DEALER !? Wasn’t the dealer the judge and referee ? An incompetent dealer ! Investigate and put Men in jail ! Stealing chips is equivalent to stealing money.

@brianscott6400

6 күн бұрын

Technically not Money to the casino. iTS NOT mONEY TILL YOU CASH.

With around 20 players left at a WPT main even I came back to my chips the next day to find out 1/3rd of my chips had been taken out of the bag in-between days. They didn't check the cameras and nothing happened because the game was about to start. I ended up bubbling the final table. It was life changing money for me. They need to up security cos thes events attract the worst type of people

@user-ob1sb1wf5p

9 күн бұрын

How does that even happen? There aren't multiple records of every stack to cross reference any time there's a postponement? I guess the trouble is that if chips disappear, they don't necessarily have to reappear (in another stack)

@user-ob1sb1wf5p

9 күн бұрын

I would have my own total recorded and probably a photo of the stack as well

@StankHunt42

8 күн бұрын

@@user-ob1sb1wf5p They count the number of chips with you, then record it and put them away. Thats how I knew there were less. However I turned up to the game late and everyone already had the chips out so there was no recounting everyones chips

He must be cutting people in. How could the staff not see him stealing 4.5 million in chips?

Why aren't people bashing WSOP as currect like they do HCL as shady? Way more issues.

Dealers at the WSOP are the worse, they get ZERO training and are expected to know how to deal 🤣🤣 WSOP should train them for at least 1 day, it would help a lot. Or put them through an easy online training prep

@Alec-cs4ri

11 күн бұрын

@@phitruong-xt1pz Lol most dealers make well over 100k and "without trying"? Possibly one of the most inaccurate statements I've ever heard. 😆 Wrong on both counts.

@phitruong-xt1pz

11 күн бұрын

@@Alec-cs4ri you must not know very many dealers or on the defensive. An average dealers dealt a minimum of 20 hands every 30 minutes. Some houses with the shuffler they can pump out like 25 average. Tips 2-3 per hand average do the math. And you don’t think they should get any kind of training. From what I know and experienced of course

@Alec-cs4ri

11 күн бұрын

​@@phitruong-xt1pz I used to deal up until recently and we absolutely weren't averaging 2-3 bucks per hand. Maybe it's different where you are but we were probably averaging a dollar per hand in any given shift. Plus a good amount of time we would deal PLO so definitely not 20 hands every 30 minutes on those tables. On top of that, dealers usually get a lot of breaks so even if you're working 8 hours, 2 or more of those hours are breaks.

@pierrepoulin6441

11 күн бұрын

@@phitruong-xt1pz A dealer that deals you 20 hands in 30min knows what they are doing, we’re not talking about them, I hope you’re not cuz if you are you’re wrong AND a douchebag 😂

@corysatx8730

9 күн бұрын

played in this event and couldn't believe the dealers they had . they were basically having to be told what to do by the entire table. also a guy died on one of the flights they didn't even pause the clock it was pretty insane.

Awesome editing!

not 100% sure of year but pretty sure it was 2014. I played in a Foxwoods tournament where you started with 30k in chips. Everyone had 1 gray 10k chip. After about 50 minutes of play no one had busted from the table but someone noticed one of the Asian players had 2 gray chips. 9 players on the table and 10 gray chips. I was told the player with the extra chip was one of Men's "posse". Player protested innocence and all that happened was floor took away the extra chip.

Mr Polk congrats on the new card club opening in September in Texas . I was wondering about job opportunities . I live in CA and will relocate .

@kalebpate613

3 күн бұрын

Is that what the shirt is about? Is it in San Antonio?

HiHi, Doug. Great to have you in front of the cameras again.....keep'em comin'......

If Men had any of his "family" around when you went outside you'd be fighting all of them, not him.

Brilliant reporting Doug....way to get to the bottom of this stuff!....

My experience with floormen is that they're not interested in barring cheaters. They just want to keep the cards in play.

I blame the casinos for paying so little and having bad dealers as a result

@Alec-cs4ri

11 күн бұрын

Yup

Thanks for MENtioning it! 😂

@Fireleaf

11 күн бұрын

This goes deep 😬

They stopped another tournament to see the end of an NBA playoffs game. Probably making sure that players placed bet with the appropriate sports book. But they couldn't stop the tournament to take care of this to the max extent possible. Unreal

I’m here for the comedy, and this was gold!

You know it’s really bad when “breaking news” knocks off the headphones.

He shouldn’t be allowed to play in Casinos

Great video! Thank you for the content.

While I think it likely that Men cheated you can't really rely on table players for input unless it's something very simple/obvious. A player has the right to be disliked by every other player which means that a table might lean one way in an opinion because a player is disliked. Which is not fair poker.

Good catch Doug #smooth

Next time keep your seat and watch whats going on at the table

@howard5992

11 күн бұрын

Also, what was the dealer doing during this time ?

@webguy943

11 күн бұрын

​@@howard5992day dreaming it happens dealers r human.

@BROEWCOIN-mi1op

10 күн бұрын

He learned the hard way 🎉

@tbone33-pc9fq

10 күн бұрын

@@howard5992 It was the dealers fault but could be a new dealer with their 1st dealing job. Sit in your seat count your chips and play poker.

@agoo7581

9 күн бұрын

Victim blaming is fucking stupid, and so are you.

Good job on the intro Thomas. Never waste a good clip. Nice catch Doug.

Wow Doug. Catching that headset was SMOOTH!

Tournament director should be fired, there is clear evidence of what happened. Why not resolve it? These casinos have the best cameras. What are we missing here? Like wut??

From a business management perspective, those $2m in 'consolation' chips strongly suggest to me that there wasn't adequate camera coverage of the table, but organisers didn't want to admit it. Simply put... if they had coverage of the table including the dealer, organisers could have reconstructed the movement of chips & confronted Men with the evidence to get him to cough up. The fact that they "reviewed the cameras" twice and _still_ pressed Foutty to put money in rather than demanding the chips from Men, tells me they had _no idea_ what happened at that table & when they got caught lacking by Smith rightly demanding a proper resolution, they scrambled for a solution that would be acceptable and stop further inquiry. I bet that footage of Nguyen that surfaced on Twitter had them sweating... Men's not even subtle about it. Not a good look for WSOP.

@kanelives2895

11 күн бұрын

I don't understand what Foutty did. Why did he give away the chips he did not owe? Is he just a doormat? Also, it seems like other players not involved in the hand said that Men owed the chips, but the floor did something bizarre instead? Is the floor a moron?

Had the same thing happen to me at WSOP this year. Went all in on a big pot and we chopped. As we pulled back I noticed the player grab extra chips that I put in. Once I counted my stack I lost 20% of my chips on a chop pot which I should have gained from antes. The guy argued with me at first then the whole table stood up for me and recalled the action and the guy finally gave back the chips. Be careful out there and alert!

The master of KZread poker is back and I’m happy!

To me, Men pulling the chips back isn't necessarily evidence of wrongdoing in itself. He had the largest stack of the three. When I first saw this, I sort of figured that's what had happened: the awarded the main pot, then split the side pot, which is what we see Men doing. As much as I don't like giving Men The Master the benefit of the doubt, I also like to spot any reasonable doubt that could get him off the hook. However, when watching the video later with the audio on, you can clearly hear someone call the floor over to help the dealer count out the two pots (main and side) AFTER the moment Men is seen pulling chips back in. That strikes me as shady no matter how you slice it. Shouldn't Men be leaving that alone to let the staff count?? The weird part is that this should never have affected Smith. Any dealers, please correct me, but it seems she (and the floor) should have first counted out Smith's stack, then pulled those same amounts from each of Foutty and Nguyen. Throw in the SB, BB and BB ante, then Smith has his 15 BB stack as it should be. If anything, it should have screwed up Poutty: when divvying up the split side pot, Men had already pulled some of his chips back, meaning the dealer splits a smaller amount than it should have. Regardless, I was absolutely hoping that there was camera footage FINALLY showing Men's cheating at the table. We've heard rumors and allegations for years now, but that's all they have been. Pretty disappointed nothing more came from this.

@jimbo98765

11 күн бұрын

Maybe pulling back chips can be seen as a bad look for Men now that there's this controversy. But he can pull chips back all he wants, he can pull some back and leave some out, what happens next I speculate is the dealer not really counting the pot and just pull the chips left out by Men. Stupid dealers, pretending to count. So sad, but players gotta do everything themselves in their own head and see if they agree with the pot size and watch out for any slack or cheating.

@rubbertoad3681

9 күн бұрын

These were my thoughts. There should have been a pot made with Brian's chips matched by the other 2 players with the blinds and antes included before any flop is done. There shouldn't have been any of Brian's potential chips in front of Men. If the side pot was not figured out before the flop, the dealer just has to grab the right amount of chips from the 2 players to match Brian's chips. I have no idea how this situation got to the point it did.

@agoo7581

9 күн бұрын

If you are a serial cheater, you never deserve the "benefit of the doubt".

nice catch

I'm a baby poker dealer, thank you for defending your dealers Doug it's silly how this job is actually difficult but it really is

Just wanted to give you props for protecting your dealers, and dealers in general. They need to be right 100% of the time, or at least be ready to admit when they counted wrong. Its a hard job when you have a bunch of people watching you count, and they always want you to count faster. Thanks for recognizing that abusing a dealer is absurd.

Are you really going to search someone's personal items because they were cooking fish? It's not like they were caught doing lines of coke with scales and baggies everywhere

@howard5992

11 күн бұрын

It's a weird comment on her part. No context. Who entered the room ? Hotel staff ? Poker officials ? When did they enter ? When were the chips supposedly seen ?

@spaffron4285

11 күн бұрын

@howard5992 exactly... there is absolutely no reason they would be looking for tournament chips in the room because they were having an unauthorized fish fry

Indeed, the real crime is jamming J5s UTG this deep into such a large tournament 😮‍💨

@6thwilbury2331

11 күн бұрын

Meh, I understand it... 4.5x starting stack, plus the presence of the BBA affects both his fold equity now and the stack size he'll have on the next deal (2.5x). Mathematically, I think the bottom of the suited jack shoving range for that spot (4.5x, UTG, BBA) is more like J7s or J8s. J5s is obviously below that threshold, but it's not egregiously bad. If the table is playing tighter than it should - e.g. because everyone is getting reseated in a few minutes - maybe it widens the shoving range a click or two. Plus, Harrington wrote about that whole "first-in vig" eons ago. This might have also played into Smitty's decision, too.

@donaldpaluga

11 күн бұрын

Why? J5 is better than J4, AMIRITE?-Robbi Jade

@willjay6943

11 күн бұрын

Maybe he really likes jackson five and has memorabilia and shit

Clearly the brand new dealer didn’t square the pots before the all-in runout. Once the board was dealt, she either asked the players to take back the chopped side pot (which was never squared) or more likely, Men chose to revolve his own bet knowing the extra 4 million was still in his side pot stack which actually belonged in the main pot. Either way, Men knew exactly what he was doing. He’s been at this game far too long to feign ignorance.

Why are we not talking about that headphone catch in the beginning. Absolute masterclass of nonchalance.

forgot his children. LMAO great video!

@howard5992

11 күн бұрын

must be grandchildren, TBH

@olgierdvoneverec

11 күн бұрын

I mean they all look the same...

Drama hour with Doug Polker. Keep it up Doug

That gives new meaning to the phrase “ saving a bet” 😂😂

There are games I won't play anymore and I know of others (including some very generous fish) who stopped playing at one venue because cheating was tolerated. Ban this guy.

Fish and no Chips

@jluchette

11 күн бұрын

This is clever Barto

Cooking fish? Oh you mean literally?😁

@StuartFerguson55

11 күн бұрын

Lmao

It's crazy to me that the WSOP still can't get these tournaments right

Love the " Brrrrrreaking news" headphones 🎧 pop off and the smile... That's a great opening!!! Keep it up GOAT

More Bububububububreaking News!!! Nice, its been a good week. 😁

Once a VC always a VC

I had no idea Men Nguyen was not lifetime banned from the WSOP!

Doug you are hilarious. This was great!

Dealers are supposed to count the chips from every player in the hand after each round of betting all ins included yeah?

@ItsEverythingElse

11 күн бұрын

What?

@Chukk61

11 күн бұрын

The dealer should have first pulled in the $4.5 all in from the other 2 players for the main pot. Then determine which of those 2 had the least left and pull that amount into the side pot from the 2 remaining, motion for the balance to go back to the rightful owner and THEN finish dealing. Men is a known cheat and angle shooter, but if the dealer does the job correctly, it doesn't become a factor.

@TetrisPimp

11 күн бұрын

Amateur dealers smh

@88mphDrBrown

11 күн бұрын

I've seen a lot of single pot all ins where they just count what's effective, then divy it up after they know who won. Players probably prefer this so they spend half the time counting chips. The dealer definitely should've set the main pot before doing anything else. My guess is that with 20k entrees they probably hired and trained a bunch of dealers who had no experience.

Stole first!!

@MotormikeyD

11 күн бұрын

You Nguyen 🎉

Yo is the lodge coming to San Antonio?

The Armenian Mike throwback was top tier

I played a few days of 20/40 mix mostly short handed with Men last year. Over less than a week he tried to take back bets he owed dozens of times. And he tried to pull 100s of angles. He was heavily drinking too, but I have no doubt thay this isn't just accidental behavior. He also played terribly lol

MEN, THE CHEATER, should be banned worldwide!

@NguyenBon504

10 күн бұрын

How do u know he is cheater? Did you see he cheat?

@charliechan6827

10 күн бұрын

@@NguyenBon504 In this day and age, your comment is an absolutely stupid comment!

The dealers are the worst dealers I've ever seen at the WSOP

I love your content Doug! Greetings from Poland :)

Maybe Smitty should have stayed at the table and watched the pot instead of running around like a bozo.

@mrhumble2937

11 күн бұрын

Emotion good for the game

They should sack the stupid dealer

@Dreamagain11

11 күн бұрын

They are already short dealers because they refuse to give them better pay or hours, so shitty dealers are all you gonna get.

Pretty obvious solution. 1/ ban Men from all events 2/ fire the incompetent dealer This behaviour is rife on Asian tours (has happened to me personally). All the gangsters in Phillipines/Vietnam do their lame sleight of hand constantly and get away with it as the floor staff are also gangsters. At least in the US you should be able to have consequences for cheating.

The clip of the guy jamming into Ryan Feldman then saying “you know I joke” always brings me to tears😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

16:29 I mean he is Asian so probably knows some Kung fu... 😃

Maybe stop excessive celebrating and watching your chips

@MrTrust333

11 күн бұрын

100%, gotta protect yourself first, pay attention

@urty24

11 күн бұрын

How is watching your chips going to help? Men didn’t take chips out of his stack; he just pulled back his entire 25 million before the dealer had a chance to pull 4.5 mil out. If this is on anyone (other than Men) it’s on the dealer for not pulling all the bets into the side pot.

@katastrafika5253

11 күн бұрын

Yeah but you don’t get likes 😂

@nickirving7857

11 күн бұрын

Stop watching your chips?

@Tritiuminducedfusion

11 күн бұрын

We have to watch the dealers to make sure they do their jobs? 🤡🤡🤡 take.

Ever since Doug became a dad the dad jokes been on point. Wonder if the next Upswing poker class is on this.

@dustyguadian7570

10 күн бұрын

If he does he should hire me for masterclass. 5 kids , ages 19,16,14,4,3. My tag line would be “I’ve experienced all the bad beats, so you don’t have too” But for real I could probably make amazing course.

The jokes were so bad, i didnt even get them.

Nice catch, Doug!

The Final Fantasy theme to the end as always, man you're the best, not always easy but, you have to stay proud and your head up.

I’m with you Doug. This has always seemed pretty straightforward: Enforce the rules against cheaters.

you are making funnier content lately, good job

Easiest thing ever. Count Men’s chips.

Nice catch Doug :)

If he’s been caught cheating over the years and the WSOP know how he is, how the F is he still allowed to play in the WSOP ?

All b/s aside, it was 100% the dealer’s fault, here. Competence is always a good thing when 6 figures is on the line. 👍