slight correction: if venti's burst infuses with electro, those procs CAN cause real aggravates (which will scale with crit and whatnot, unlike swirled aggravates) watch me live: twitch.tv/dragonflymarcus

@FelipeCollalto

Жыл бұрын

I was about to say that. Nice vid

@user-vr8qd4hk6y

Жыл бұрын

Why telling he is for hordes of enemies? He needs only 2 for full dps scalling. Pretty sure he is best for shredding strong shields of multiple elements like Fatui or Abyss Lectors. His cc is also enough for them. I would say Venti is even more impressive in such situations than against lots of weak mobs. There is so sad common misconception that Venti is niche and only for small mobs... Any guide for Venti have to debunk wild misconcepctions comming from Kazuha's overhype to be good. Plus, like many already said in the comments, he is amazing battery, it should be mentioned. Part about teams was pretty interesting, although general presentation of Venti could be better really. Also I wonder about fridge teams...

@ahmadmirzatappi8142

Жыл бұрын

so you can either build full em for reaction based or bloombased damage or you can put in full dps critrate cdamage and anemo dmg bonus for aggravate cuz if the swirl turns to elecro and hits a dendro unit the aggravate swirls will theoretically crit right ???......right??

With how often the abyss changes, I think it's flawed to ever say that a character has "fallen off". Some rotations characters will thrive, others they will have a harder time. But their strengths don't disappear just because the abyss changes its floors.

@dragonflymarcus

Жыл бұрын

agreege, glad I made that a point in the video

@imvge

Жыл бұрын

I think that’s all that means tho really. Depending on the cycle they can fall off for abyss but that’s about it

@caparashon

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, for instance the last rotations of 2.x were heavy in cryo enemies and not that good for permafreeze teams. I just used other teams like rational, mono geo or Yoimiya vape and benched mine for the time being. But back to 3.0 abyss, my Ayaka returned to her queen status when I expected her to fall behind for not being dendro compatible. This is why "meta" is fickle and it's good to slowly invest in having a variety of solid teams that are fun to play so you have something for every situation, instead of only having exactly two broken min-maxed hyper invested meta DPS. It takes time when you're f2p/low spender but we'll get there and it's worth it

@lukeskywalker2541

Жыл бұрын

ANEMO GOD‼

@unown8202

Жыл бұрын

This is what I've been telling people since a long time ago and no one believes me especially the meta obsessed ones. In the end, I just gave up. The abyss will never justify what's good or what's bad because it changes drastically every patch. One day you're doing barely enough with your team, the next day you've been having a breeze with that same team. I just do my own thing that is building enough teams to cover most abyss rotation and that's why I often pull more on characters than weapons rather than over investing on a single "meta" character.

Venti will always be my favorite. The quality of life and ease he offered during version 1.0 still remains true to the current version.

@mmmk5385

Жыл бұрын

Same, as someone who speed runs spiral abyss, Venti is invaluable for his ER and CC

@danielmonteiro7781

Жыл бұрын

Overworld and domains he’s literally the best because you can speed up your daily things

@LotusKitty

Жыл бұрын

You know the Graven Innocence event? And those parts like The Wonderful Fungi of Teyvat? I literally just used Venti for that. Boom, finished in like 10 seconds. Venti is true god.

@Qdawwg

Жыл бұрын

Not only that people seem to leave out that he carries floors 9-11 and always has. He was only bad on floor 12 for like a few months, even then hes still good. For domains and overworld too, I'd argue he's a must pull

@aciesara5444

Жыл бұрын

​@@Qdawwg People seem to forget that we stay in the domain and overworld way longer than in the abyss.. That reason alone makes him a "must pull" unit in my opinion. In Abyss, he decimate anything suckable. Heck even when he is bad, I still don't bother replacing him with other unit since he is good enough to 9*-ing F12 Abyss anyway.

ngl Venti's been carrying my ass all through Sumeru. He just makes dealing with the fungi so much easier since they are so weak to his crowd control moves. I love Kazuha too but I've definitely had a lot more issues with him crowd controlling Sumeru mobs. I think the best plan is to switch between the two - have Kazuha if you're going to be facing larger enemies and Venti if you're going to be facing mobs of smaller enemies.

I just want him for 5 reasons 1. I like him 2. Travelling 3. I like his design 4. I like his attacks 5. He's one of the only 2 bow characters I'm missing

@whaleking6445

Жыл бұрын

He’s trash. Waste of primogems

@MagmaMonika

Жыл бұрын

@@whaleking6445 maybe just let people pull for who they want instead of dragging them down?

@whaleking6445

Жыл бұрын

@@MagmaMonika maybe let people state their opinion instead of antagonising others and making something bigger than it really is

@PersonWhoIsTired

Жыл бұрын

@@whaleking6445 Maybe don't express your UNWANTED opinion because NO ONE asked. Ok? Okay. Thank you. ❤️

@whaleking6445

Жыл бұрын

@@PersonWhoIsTired well no one asked for your opinion, yet here you are? dont you think thats pretty ironic and hypocritical? maybe u should take you own advice XDD

He's worth to pull and to have, after all he is the Anemo Archon.

@DarkFrozenDepths

Жыл бұрын

Plus all 3 archons we can currently use are pretty nuts together. Can't imagine when more show up.

@nknown3982

Жыл бұрын

@@DarkFrozenDepths nahida is also broken with her support capacity

@atrollnottobetakenseriousl1147

Жыл бұрын

@@nknown3982 i dont think nahida Will be universal Like the other Archons, i mean shes is dendro after all

@666Blush

Жыл бұрын

@@atrollnottobetakenseriousl1147 she’ll probably synergise really well with hydro and pyro archon and she most likely will with raiden very well too.

@InAtlasAtLast

Жыл бұрын

The best bard

Basically Against few heavy enemies: Kazuha very good Venti good Against lots of small - medium enemies: Kazuha very good Venti godlike, best unit in the game by far

People seems to forget that besides the insane CC venti have he also regenerate 15 energy for the element absorobed and deals insane amount of damage especially in AoE

One thing I don't hear people speak about often is the overworld comfort provided by the character in question. Spyral abyss is the hardest content in the game, but the majority of your playtime will be overworld content including farming or random events, in both of which venti is an absolute gamechanger. It really feels so good to be able to just click q and see enemies dead while you are standing in a safe zone lol. The new dendro domain is a perfect example. Those enemies can be immobilized for a long amount of time by using venti so any of their mechanics are just trivialized. Edit: Also, he is still amazing for freeze teams since heavier enemies, excluding bosses, can still be cc'd by him if they are frozen. On top of that he restores energy to your party members. He is still my go-to for ayaka freeze teams.

I love how you encapsulated Venti without saying, like: "Venti can suck enemies... but Kazuha can..." "Venti has ... but Kazuha has it better" We know Kazuha is good but I just want to hear Venti as Venti without comparing him to other characters constantly.

@nicollasleal1731

Жыл бұрын

i have both so i can say, kazuha may be more versatile, but venti has more time of crowd control which helps some selfish characters. my second abyss team is xiao, venti, albedo and bennett, venti can suck everyone into the same place, albedo then does AoE damage to everyone there and then bennett can use his burst and xiao does his thing being on-field for a lot of time, team is strong

@yourdad5799

Жыл бұрын

And we need two teams for abyss and two crowd controllers are pretty convinient for that

@thedead073

Жыл бұрын

One thing I've found in life is that you can't easily describe something without comparing it to something else. You want to describe how spicy something is? Compare it to something else that is spicy. You want to sell genshin impact to someone? Say it is open world. Say it is similar to BOTW You want to describe Venti? You compare him to Kazuha. And back in the day, they compared Venti to Sucrose.

@InAtlasAtLast

Жыл бұрын

@@nicollasleal1731 that’s a great team

@whaleking6445

Жыл бұрын

How are you supposed to value something without comparing into something else or setting a benchmark lmfao

A lot of people forget the 20 energy he refunds to any character with the same element his burst swirls. That’s like Raiden level of energy regen

@alejandromonteromendez35

Жыл бұрын

Not Raiden level but It's still high, anyways I'm gonna pull him and do a 4 archon team once Nahida comes out

@michaelman90

Жыл бұрын

It's only 15 energy, not 20; Raiden generates energy for the entire team and can reach upwards of 27 energy regen per burst. A bit hyperbolic to say Raiden levels of energy regen but definitely not something to sneeze at, especially considering his own burst is only a medium 60 energy so the 15 energy refund makes spamming his burst very easy even with very little ER.

@Vekcrazah

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelman90 not to mention that raiden’s is heavily dependent on whether or not the stacks for desiderata are reached. So, the less you can spam bursts, the lesser the Energy Raiden can provide. Venti has such a nice baseline, even if the ceiling for it is quite low too.

@artificial_exp

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelman90 you need like 300% ER to regen 27 energy- you usually regen 20-25 energy. And 15 flat energy is still a lot + you burst more often with venti

@michaelman90

Жыл бұрын

@@artificial_exp My Raiden hits 315% ER after burst with Engulfing even with atk% sands. It wouldn't be too hard for a f2p Raiden to reach around that with The Catch, especially if they went all out with ER% sands.

I just gotta say, I can't imagine myself playing with a meta mentality in a game like Genshin. I don't play Abyss for physically laziness, but I always managed to get to the last level, and yeah, maybe with no full stars, but whatever. I choose and pull for characters that are appealing to me for their gameplay or their aesthetics. All of this to say: why is everyone so obsessed with Kazuha? His design is fine, he seems fun to play, and probably the best thing about him is his story, but there's such a fever around him, and I don't get it. The only reason I would pull for him is for his theme of autumn leaves, and for his ult, it's really beautiful. At the end, play the game in a way you feel comfortable. I've been playing Genshin since the first days of October, back in 2020, so basically since release, and I had to take a break midyear this year cuz I was really burned out of the game, and all cuz I was playing like if this was a job. I couldn't miss a single day of commission or resin wasted, I needed to have my favorite characters since release, and it all accumulated until I could not bring myself to even open the game. Treat yourselves with kindness, play at your ease, and remember, this is a game, not your whole life ♡

@thefreaks8926

Жыл бұрын

Most people are obsessed with Kazuha is purely because of meta. When he first got released, people thought he was weak, so his banner sales absolutely sucked. It was only later where people realized that he’s broken, then they start to like him

I was too concerned about meta and the game wasn’t fun for me anymore, I quit for a few months before coming back. I think having fun with the characters you love is the most important. Venti was my first 5 star, the first character I fell in love with/saved for. I’ve had him for over a year now and I really love his play style and his skill makes exploring so much easier~ I do have Kazuha too and they are both really fun🙈

Actually if Venti infuses Electro he can trigger aggravate with the Electro ticks from his burst as well, and the infusion damage can crit. Venti applies Electro about 7-8 times per burst with his infused hits, while Kazuha applies electro with his infused burst 5 times so theres that.

honestly, for me, i love being a venti main, and even if he isn’t considered viable during some rotations, i still have him built as a dps. he does 25k just for his elemental skill. wherever he stands in the meta, he’ll always be first place in my heart :”)

Another thing to consider; if you just like collecting, Venti should be near the top of your list, as he's the first limited five star for the game, the first archin made available, and (for kow at least) the only anemo bow user.

Venti is so good now especially against the new sumeru mushrooms especially the heavy ones and against the emrites enimes , he's still broken

For me, Venti is always a part in Ayaka freeze teams. His energy battery in Ayaka team is no match. Shenhe and Ayaka brings enough damage to the table already, I don’t need another damage buffer.

@icriedasachild8866

Жыл бұрын

Same. His rotation is actually so smooth in my Ayaka/Shenhe/Kokomi team

@shubnee-chan5661

Жыл бұрын

I also use the same team comp but replace Ayaka with Ganyu.

@HuyNguyen-ky9mq

Жыл бұрын

Sadly I don’t have Gangyu. But Gangyu never have energy issues as much as Ayaka I think. Still Morgana is always one of the top team.

@myst7383

Жыл бұрын

@@icriedasachild8866 I used Ayaka/Ganyu/Kokomi instead

@vwlz8637

Жыл бұрын

i use ayaka sucrose and never have any energy problems. i dont have venti but i wont bother pulling for him cos sucrose does what he does (less effectively to be sure, but its basically the same, just takes a bit longer and u have to time ur freeze so they dont get staggered by the tornado) . but its actually quite convinent. u can swirl cryo, switch to kokomi while theyre getting sucked and time the jellyfish at the right time, switch to ayaka for the ttds buff and ult. venti is much better than sucrose in non freeze teams, cos enemies can easily get out of sucrose's crowd control by just getting attacked, but im not using anemo characters in any of my teams other than freeze anyways. ayaka sucrose kokomi diona is the comp i use for large crowds, ganyu melt for multiple large enemies, and hu tao xinqiu fischl for bosses. plus im in love with nilou so i dont feel like pulling for him if he's just gunna replace sucrose.

I feel if they improve his burst targeting to target the middle of the hord rather than one enemy, which is away from most of them , it would make him a lot better, also if the burst would activate a bit closer to him

I'd say if you're new and want to pull for venti, you won't regret it. I had him since his first release in 1.0, and never left my abyss team even until now

After the 2.0 Nobushi Incident, as a Venti main I'm glad that a huge portion of Sumeru enemies are suckable! I've been farming the ley line event with him this week and I've been cackling so hard as he deletes shrooms and eremites alike. Floors 9-10 and some chambers of later floors are pretty good for him. I feel Kazuha is the most disgusting anemo on aggravate teams because that fat electro dmg bonus is delicious, but I still hope and pray for Cyno to work with Venti's Q. You never know with unga bunga DPS characters and Venti. I do like using Venti in fridge teams, especially with a c6 Diona to give him +200 extra EM. I normally pull for Venti cons on his rerun even if they're not that great because he's my fave, but this time I'm going for electro boi. I'm going to try for weapon banner if I have enough primos left, so if instead of Cyno's staff I get an Elegy I'd actually take it as a W

I have a C0 Kazuha and a C6 Succrose. And I'm sorry to say that they are 100% benched. Venti on the other hand is my go to whenever I explore or need to do domains. His CC is untouchable even with larger enemies. Yes, he has issues with moving world bosses but here's the deal, I don't need him for that. I need someone to get every single mob in one spot so I can delete them. I also feel like Kazuha and Succrose need way more time on field compared to Venti. But maybe I'm biased. So yes, I don't understand the Kazuha hype. He is a decent unit but can be replaced compared with Venti who is in his own league. Thing is Succrose can replace Kazuha and the other way around. But none of them can replace Venti when it comes to CC.

@mintsugas

Жыл бұрын

Kinda opposite to me. I have all three too but I sometimes forget I even have venti cus all I use is Kazuha XD for me his gameplay just fits my style the best, and he’s extremely good for overworld exploration too, guess it’s different preferences for everyone.

Pull if you don't have Kazuha. He's globally useful and very fun. Easily one of the best characters for a new player too. Sooo fun.

@Kaiji...

Жыл бұрын

I'm just going to wait for Kazuha since I have C6 Sucrose. Scaramouche might even be a decent Anemo grouper as well.

You didn't mention his energy refund, which noticeably lowers ER requirements for one or two of his teammates (or three if you're doing some weird mono element team). The 15 energy he gives is better than most energy related constellations, even 5 star constellations.

A nice little bit of utility that Venti provides to Raiden teams is that his burst restores 15 energy to characters of the element it absorbed. So teaming Venti with Raiden allows her to run less energy recharge in favor of elemental mastery, which is one of her builds that's been gaining popularity since 3.0. The electro dmg% bonus she loses because of lower ER is also mitigated by the damage increase of EM, so you can kinda build her as a crit-EM hybrid.

Many smol enemies->venti Few big boi->kazu/sucrose

My reason to pull venti is simply because I love his character

venti broke my guarenti pity really early. but im still thankful for this :) i dont have kazuha or others so im happy for Venti. im just in Inazuma and i find it hard to play him here. when i beat inazuma i hope i can enjoy him in sumeru. Im happy he is here for new players who have the old zones only :) Thank you so much for this vid :D was looking for a vid on venti for mid player like me now :)

i love using him in my freeze team with ayaka/shenhe. never had any er problems so my ayaka can just go crazy with her ca and burst in venti's cyclone. his burst also sucks those "unsuckable" enemies when frozen so yeah.

@Yan-wg5hg

Жыл бұрын

and if you're concerned with his usability in the abyss, just know that it changes constantly and not every enemy in there are bosses/big mobs

I like using him when there is a mob of suckable enemies. Using him along with Ganyu's Burst is such a power trip.

@watema3381

Жыл бұрын

Suckable? 😳

Anemo units with an elemental absorption will hugely benefit from Quicken in that regard as well, not just the swirls.

while venti's grouping does make it easier for hyperbloom to hit more enemies, it's important to remember that this levels off very quickly because there is a cap of 2 hits per 0.5s on how often an enemy can be hit by a dendro core reaction (you can find this info on KQM but i did not see it on the fandom wiki). in addition to the fact that you'll also be generating more bloom cores with more enemies, this means that other characters with weaker grouping can also be effective in this role, e.g. sucrose or kazuha, though venti still has a good advantage in the duration and energy refund of his burst for uptime

@Raathax

Жыл бұрын

But is that not on a per enemy basis therefore those two hits per 0.5 seconds will hit each enemy as long as its within the AoE? Therefore with Venti's greater CC ability those two hits of Hyperbloom could be equivalent of more reactions if they were not in his cyclone ( 2 Hyperbloom reactions in Venti Cyclone against 5 enemies is equivalent damage to 10 Hyperbloom reactions against 5 enemies who were not within the small AoE of said Hyperblooms due to CC ). Would this not be the same reason as to why Ganyu and Ayato are insane with Venti due to the AoE nature of the individual hits of their Bursts?

Dude great video, everyne talks about him being 'powercrept' but I feel like hyperbloom changed everything, his grouping mechanic goes above kazuhas and I say that as a day 1 kazuha main, making it so much easier to optimise their small aoe

I never regretted pulling for venti even after the abyss was harder for him. He makes killing crowds in open world so much easier that I waste less time on menial daily quests or chests.

thank you for the video

I just got both Venti at 60 and then 1 pity for Cyno. Venti is really a game-changer for me as a mobile player. I don't like bow users but he has become my favourite especially grouping enemies so I could kill them easily, and while on standby I love him playing his lyre for a short period of time ehe ٩(๑･ิᴗ･ิ)۶

Venti or Kazuha is such an odd way to look at it. They're very different characters. Venti trivializes 95% of the game in a way that no other character can compete with. Kazuha is one of the best options in the game everywhere in the game. It isn't even like you need to run them both in EM builds. As keqing mains mathed out (and as ccs have horrendously butchered ever since to a great disservice to the players going to them for information), it actually isn't that hard to get a crit Venti build which performs at a similar or higher level than an EM build. You can run one crit and one em and have them on the same team. Hell, I enjoy running double anemo/double geo with a C2 Zhongli, Albedo, Venti and then either Jean or Kazuha (and sucrose would work the same, just don't use her much). Obviously it wouldn't be my top choice versus bosses but it is a fun team. It is so odd to me that talking up Kazuha seems to make people think they have to trash Venti in comparison. The only thing keeping me from always having both of them on the team is that neither of them heals. That's it.

Aight, you convinced me, Imma pull for Venti (even though I might have to sacrifice my pity for Kusanali or Raiden Shogun).

Hehe venti finally back in meta Never thought i would see this again, good thing my venti is triple crowned VENTI MAINS RISE UP ONCE MORE!

You gotta be an OG and remember that hellish floor 11 leyline monolith to truly appreciate venti

@TheCheeseman1983

Жыл бұрын

Oh gods… PTSD…

I don't have Venti, but I have Kazuha. I do need venti dang, idk why players says he isn't good, first of all his downfall is countering bosse/single target, who would use him on that. Venti provides strong suctions, provides almost half of your energy and can do high fall damage if being used correctly. He is much easier to play specially for mobile users.

I have both Kazuha and Venti and I would say I need both too, because I only have reaction teams in the Abyss I sometimes need 1 crowd control (Venti is the best at that) and on the other side is Kazuha for more dmg

trying to pick between pulling for venti or cyno … i want them both this isn’t fair

How can he make a comeback when he did not go anywhere. Venti got his pros and his cons. And let's be honest his usage was situational, that's all. Which is good, cuz if he could pull let's say ruin hunter he'd be too op.

@sieke5062

Жыл бұрын

He can actually pull ruin family but slightly u hv to use freeze or be around the black hole

@_gqt

Жыл бұрын

Dendro

pulling for Venti cause i don't know when his next rerun will be now that the pool for 5 star characters is getting bigger. l prioritized Kazuha on his last rerun with Ayato but I've saved enough to get him this time around.

As a goldfish, i still have to manage my primos...I definitely wanted to "catch-em-all", and Venti is the only other Archon I haven't pulled yet...but, having a C1 Kazuha, I've been on the fence about spending, especially with Cyno and Kusanali around the corner...however, even with his lack of large-enemy CC, u can still aggro them into the "grinder", and dendro gave him a bit more QOL so, i'm gonna commit...thanks again Marcus for "keeping the perspective"!

Dragonfly: I don't like Venti that much. Also Dragonfly: *Explains how Venti works in great, understandable details with no biased commentary*

Venti is my first 5*. I got him during rereun and now can't imagine game without him

Personally i think the best way to make venti the actual anemo archon is giving him the ability of boosting himself mid air like kazuha, he already does that in terms of lore.

@riyanbansal6840

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't he already fly in mid air by holding his e skill tho?

@artificial_exp

Жыл бұрын

@@riyanbansal6840 He means doing that, but mid air. His E hold requires him to be on the ground and for a good reason, if he could do it midair you could ascend to celestia

I have c6 sucrose & kazuha but I still want venti. His cc is no joke, and would fit amazing in my kamisato sibling team so I can use kazuha in my Raiden national 🖤

@Maulana_Narendra_Modi_Jilani

Жыл бұрын

Same bro

Venti main hyyyyype!!! :D Yo just triple crowned him, gonna get his c1 this time hopefully

It’s already 2 years since the game was out now, so I think for videos like this, constellations need to be considered very soon. In Venti’s case, his constellations make him a true universal support, more universal than Kazuha in some cases, and now even more with the release of the Deepwood set.

Does Kuki skill and Kokomi Skill apply element to enemies/seeds inside Venti's burst? I ask since Venti's burst groups stuff above ground

I want kazuha, but I start playing right after his banner end. Mean that now I have to wait for who know, maybe a year for rerun. And crowd control is really needed with this new update sooo

But when anemo units infuse electro with a talent, that infused talent dealing electro damage can proc aggravate and then crit, correct?

ask/question: if I already have kazuha character and a sucrose anemo character. mean easy to skip the venti character? because I am f2p. and weapon banner is trap and risk to pull saving primo on that banner if I f2p?

Even if the abyss stopped with mobs at some point, you'd still see those enemies in the overworld and in domains. As long as you need to farm for materials, talents, or artifacts, there will always be some kind of use for Venti.

I would like to point out that Venti isn't strictly a multi-target unit, he is also really good against large monsters that don't move that much. I mean, even against the Mech Snake back in last abyss composition, he was a great piece for my single-target Taser team. So yeah, he's indisputably not as versatile as Kazuha, but it doesn't mean you can't work around his burst perks and make a good use of it when the scenario isn't a crowd control check. PD: This point isn't being made against something DF said, just pointing it out as I've seen many people say in the past, that he's useless in single target scenarios.

So in other words, I can (FINALLY) bench out Venti and use him in a composition of my choice because flingable mobs exist on abbyss again. That's good, it makes new players want him and older players like me who invested in him feel like we did good in raising him (cuz when I FINALLY got the friggin last EM piece I needed to complete the 4pc set and full EM, welp....It was in the inazuman patch). So this begs the question (for hoyoverse): Qiqi op on abbyss when?

I wish Kazuha simps would shut up when someone's trying to appreciate other anemo characters, and when people express pulling for other characters besides Kazuha like Venti. We all know how good he is, but Kazuha mains wouldn't like it if there was a char better than Kazuha, and ppl kept comparing that char with Kazuha. It's not a nice thing to do, have some respect.

im gonna pull for him even though i have kazuha cuz i want to make a archon team similar to my dream to create a team of harbingers wish me luck guys and i will let u guys know how it goes

I just got Venti (after him dodging my pulls the last 3 times his banner was active, smh) and I love him. He’s great for dealing with the annoying fungi in Sumeru 🥰 I have Kazuha too and yes, he’s more versatile, but Venti does crowd control wayyy better.

I believe that Venti is great. Even though I'm not going to wish for him(because I want to get Albedo), I still believe that Venti is a great investment. So, Good luck to everyone with their wishes.

As a proud venti main, for 5 months I approve of this video .

I really want to pull venti but as a small dolphin (blessing/bp) this will hurt if I can't get him in the 50/50. Watch me as I probably get the C3 for my Qiqi (and I wish I was kidding). I think I blew out all my luck getting Ganyu on wish 30-ish last month =(

I found use for venti this abyss rotation mhy knows what they're doing rn

i stopped using venti after i invested in sucrose (then doubly stopped using him after kazuha) but pushing dendro aside, venti has always had value over kazuha for ganyu’s mona, diona and venti team. obviously it does depend on the situation, namely the weight and number of enemies, but venti allows a unit to actually like, back off after they’ve hit his burst because it occupies enemies so well. with kazuha and sucrose you almost never have the option to just gain some distance, the purpose is pure clumping so you can focus your attentions on one place. venti allows ganyu to gain some distance (strengthening amos passive) and consequently stay safe while allowing her to hit lots of enemies at once. he’s pretty invaluable in that team! it’s very very hard to say that kazuha is a straight venti upgrade cuz i mean. i cant put my feet up during kazuha’s burst and watch the show, lol. every character in genshin is pretty unique and i don’t think it’s fair to say that one is a straight up upgrade- they all have something that separates them, you just have to play to their strengths.

@jironitevale

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and this is coming from someone with a triple crowned c1 kazuha. i love the guy and i think he’s possibly the best overall unit in game But that doesn’t mean you can just slap him in any team and think he’s your best fit

1:18 the accent swap there threw me for a minute

Picking who you want to pull will always be base on your play style or who you just want to have. Like me I love raiden but so far I only use her as a battery a very expensive battery lols.

I have all anemo characters except venti and I'm on 5 pity(guaranteed) with no primos, so i will try to pull venti and if I don't get him I'm gonna save for nahida Edit:- I got venti today on 40 pity

I pulled venti in his latest re run because of his E. I wanted to make my characters a xiao since I always lose his 50/50s. BUT I DID NOT REALIZE HOW GOATED HE IS!!

I love using him for cc more than kazuha because kazuha’s cc aoe is way smaller than venti’s, and venti with sacrificial can spam his burst

He's not too bad in the current abyss since 12-2-1 and 12-3-1 really demands good grouping

Venti will always be best boy in my eyes!

Is the archon i still dont have, and candace is in the banner, so if i lost the pitty on venti im spending and gettin her cons

Will there be a video for albedo

If Venti's Q is electro infused, does her swirl damage get buffed by quicken ??

Me with c4 triple crowned venti: interesting. Ok ok I love kazuha, really, he was my first 5* and Ive abused his use up till venti's rerun with ayatos release and uh i now i use kazuha less. Comparing their play style, kazuha is definitely easier to use, it got me some time getting used to how to cast ventis burst, but venti is still the best cc character and i feel like ever since his last rerun there has been a few abyss floors that are KINDA annoying if you dont use him (i did run kazuha instead plenty of times cuz i redo abyss way too much and its possible yes just a bit annoying). I'll also remind yall that when inazuma dropped almost NO NEW ENEMIES were suckable. and then hyo doubled down and most of them can be sucked now, interesting huh (looking at the weaker samurais and the specters). I'd say abyss rn is VERY venti friendly and I find that mildly fascinating. So yeah I think venti, kazuha, sucrose, they are all good really, and pulling for venti now is nice cuz hey. having two cc characters is poggers. (now clearly i have crit venti and i use him against bosses. it takes skill to place the ult correctly and timely but his dmg is not neglectible--constellations aside. i mean, even if you have em build, my friend has c0 1/1/1 triple em venti and he did a 20k melt swirl by accident. and you can just spam his ult. its pretty nice--ill admit tho, mine is a lot stronger for obvious reasons)

i really wanted to pull kazuha but i was saving for zhongli, venti came out of nowhere now im pulling for him, i probably wouldve pulled for venti anyway even if i got kazuha because i want all the archons

I'm actually quite grateful Venti needs Stringless, cause right now I have a R5 one rotting away in my inventory. Actually, that's a lie: I have 2 R5 Stringless AND another one that's R2! I guess I shouldn't complain since I'm super lucky on bows, having Amos for Ganyu, Skyward for Fischl AND Elegy for Yelan (lost on a Homa pull) but I still cry a little when I see all my unused stringless >_>

Idk for me having dmg buffs with kazuha and sucrose + vv shred is just really good imo

How would he work with a burgeon team with Klee Kokomi/Mona and lumine?

Well, how you are looking forward.

I got him at 0 pity and it shocked, especially with the talk about him being worse then before. I'm glad this shows him in a more open perspective

As an archon collector, no doubt I’ll pull for him

he's still the best at crowd control.

i've had venti since genshins global launch and i still have him with +0 veridescent artifact set. i have literally never needed to build him

so glad i got him at 1 pity right after i got ayato

Been rotating Venti and Kazuha. Each has their own functions. Both are strong, powerful. Only two 5 stars that I cannot see their values, Qiqi and Alloy.

@towa7916

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You can use Qiqi with Childe for freeze teams. Together with Kazuha and Xingxiu/Rosaria. Also for Heizou freeze teams.

@willpickering5829

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@@towa7916 problem is that there’s never a reason to use qiqi over diona

@annieleonhart365

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I know we all like to groan at the zombie-child for ruining pity, but Qiqi is a great choice for constant cryo application; I use her with Heizou and it's wonderful. (He has Sacrificial Fragments, and because his kicks always swirl you can do a LOT of damage with Qiqi's elemental skill active). It just takes planning. She's also a great healer to supplement your team if you don't have someone else, (a "better option"), or if you just don't want to die or use food. I'm the later. My Noelle heals fairly well for her level, but when her shield is down, I need another healer who can use his/her healing abilities if something happens. Because Noelle's healing does not last the entire duration, I'll use Qiqi's healing when Noelle's is unavailable. I rarely die now. And I have some much food, it's not even funny. Now, I know there are people who can easily say Barbara's a good healer. She is. No doubt about that. You build her right and she can shred or heal. The annoying thing about her that I don't like, though, is that she can easily be frozen because her elemental skill applies hydro on herself and others in the party when you swap out Barbara for another character. That sucks when you're fighting cyro or electro enemies. I benched her when I found that out the hard way and I don't use her because of those risks. Additionally, I appreciate the fact that I can still do cryo damage while she is off-field. If I don't need her healing, I'll just cast her skill and swap her out with someone like Heizou or Yanfei and cause crazy melt and swirl reactions. I guess I was lucky enough to receive a five-star in eleven pulls upon starting Genshin (no re-rolling, mind you), but I didn't know that at the time. I didn't know much about wishing except for you can buy wishes with gems and buy both blue wishes and pink wishes, and then you then use those wishes to get stuff. When I got her and people said she was bad, I didn't ever dare to level Qiqi until maybe a few months ago. She's pretty decent. She's not one of the best units that are out there, but I don't think she's one of the worst, either. If you want to REALLY talk about a five-star that probably does not deserve that title is Keqing. She's buffed now, with the introduction dendro, but she her kit is still awfully designed.

@annieleonhart365

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@@willpickering5829 Not everyone has Diona? I mean, I still don't...from what I've seen in Diona showcases online, her shield is good, and allows her to apply cryo from her aimed shots in a safe position. But then all bow characters could really benefit from a shield. In terms of healing, Qiqi's healing is just slightly better above hers, so someone who really wants a slightly better heal would opt for Qiqi rather Diona.

@willpickering5829

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@@annieleonhart365 you must be relatively new to the game, I’m talking about meta value. Once you get diona and level her, you’ll realize she provides far more value. Not only does she heal plenty enough, shields are generally more valuable than healing because you can’t be interrupted. Qiqi's biggest weakness, however, is that she generates no energy particles. Diona synergizes perfectly with sacrificial bow such that she can easily battery both herself and any cryo dps on the team. Her constellations are far more accessible not to mention better too. At c6 she provides a massive 200em. Cryo application isn’t very useful at high levels, but she still does that better than qiqi. Sadly, unless you just happen to like qiqi as a character, losing the 50/50 to her is a massive L.

Fav bow is also good on venti but that's not because it's particularly good on him, but it's just good period

Been playing for 2 years and I STILL haven't found an EM VV piece so almost ALL my Anemo characters use ATK/Anemo/Crit.. but hey! I got a trip EM Guilded Dreams for my Sayu💀

So do I get Venti or Albedo its gonna be a guarenteed, I rlly want to have venti but Akbedo will be gud with my Itto (tha I barely use) I always use Xiao os uh ye😭😭😭 Venti or Albedo- I need help breh

I wonder why they're still keeping venti from being able to suck up klee's mines from her skill (and in turn also aloy's) when they made him to suck dendro cores just fine.

Me a month old player who wanted venti due to all the video guides that use him while moving around but gave up on getting him since many people mentioned how he may not have a re-run and saw cyno and thought it would be fun to have a character with the same name as a friend...... But but how I want my friend on my team but venti XD

Me running Venti in one team and Kazuha in the other team for the abyss run xD both doing stelar job, but still cant get my 36 star run...

Tbh venti is still great in floor 9-11 where most of the enemies are suckable. And floor 12 first half depending on the enemies. I even sometimes use venti instead for a healer cuz of his crowd control and insane battery.

I don’t have Venti on my second account and I’ve surely noticed.

The reason why Kazuha was so much better was mainly due to the fact that Venti couldn’t succ a lot of enemies in Inazuma. But now that they nerfed half of those enemies so that they could get the succ, he regained his original viability while Kazuha is simply better for Bosses or for enemies that Venti still can’t succ.

Venti is always great. Don't care what others says. He's usually compared that Kazuha is much better bcoz of this and that, well I have both of them and I'd still prefer Venti. His CC is the best and he's the Anemo Archon.

Venti + Ganyu+ Ayato+ dendro(with quadratic application )/dendro heeler --->end game team