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@lordofnesss

5 ай бұрын

Mary, Narcissists have other traits that don't apply to musicians such as: 1- Lack of empathy and a willingness to hurt others in the pursuit of self-satisfaction. A musician who makes people happy and seeks to share his art in a positive way would not fit this profile. 2 - Exploitation of others / Systematic manipulation and deception: Narcissists often tend to exploit others in detrimental ways to achieve their own goals without considering the impact on others. An artist seeking recognition does not necessarily have to exploit other people in detrimental ways to achieve success. You're not a narcissist, you're an artist ! Big difference.

@1olddoggie

5 ай бұрын

I am a licensed psychotherapist. U are not a narcissist! My God!

@nickfletcher4132

5 ай бұрын

I think I'm an arsecissist. I think I talk out of my arse a lot.

@theubercaste

5 ай бұрын

Ugh. I can’t post a link. And it’s spot on w Mary’s query.

@wyldelf2685

5 ай бұрын

​@@theubercasteunfortunately KZread does that to eliminate channel promotion ,self promotion Wich actually doesn't make much sense , difficult to help someone "where to go" when KZread stops the helpful attempts , I definitely feel your pain ,it's frustrating , someone needs to make a more open freedom platform of a new better social media , , , ,

At no point in years of watching her videos has the thought of Mary being narcissist crossed my mind.

@GizzyDillespee

5 ай бұрын

But... the thumbnail for this video literally has Mary's mug next to the word NARCISSIST. It crossed MY mind at that point, and after what you just wrote, I'm wondering if maybe I'm extra suggestible right now.

@Rick_Cleland

5 ай бұрын

In more recent years, the word _"narcissist"_ has been overused to such an extent that it has become void of all meaning.

@pangeaproxima3681

5 ай бұрын

ok, ok...

@nicksilva4415

5 ай бұрын

Couldn't have said it better myself.

@leadgindairy3709

5 ай бұрын

Like racist/racism, sad times we are living. @@Rick_Cleland

If you can ask that question and be open to the answer, then you are not a narcissist. Have you heard that comment in other parts of your life? Probably not. True narcissism crosses all parts of life. Can you feel empathy, or feel badly for someone who is suffering? Then, not a narcissist. You’re in good shape on this one, imo.

@timcobb1752

5 ай бұрын

I lived with one that would ask the question, but being that she could never be guilty of having done anything wrong, she always came to the wrong conclusion....

@Jaden48108

5 ай бұрын

Fully agree. A true narcissist is so self-absorbed they don't consider the feelings, thoughts, emotions or actions of others. It's all about them . . . and getting noticed even if it means trampling on others without concern.

@kayjay7585

5 ай бұрын

​@@timcobb1752that's the being open to the answer part that is necessary for genuine and honest self reflection, which indeed is very rare among people with full on narcissistic personality disorder.

@sagittated

5 ай бұрын

​@@timcobb1752"Can you believe they called ME a narcissist??"

@timcobb1752

5 ай бұрын

@@sagittated Everyone is the villain in someone's story somewhere.

You’re not a narcissist, Mary. You have a healthy measure of confidence and entrepreneurial spirit. You’ve demonstrated the ability to question yourself and learn from criticism that a narcissist struggles with.

@GizzyDillespee

5 ай бұрын

Yeah that's what it is... not narcissism, but some expression of that entrepreneurial spirit. I was having a hard time reconciling "narcissism" with someone whom I only know her public persona. But after seeing the thumbnail, I was like, there's something! Yeah... entrepreneurial spirit is it. Wait, no... it's having a confessional style, but not really divulging many personal details. Maybe that's it. At first, I thought she was an ET. She's a woman of mystery.

@pangeaproxima3681

5 ай бұрын

ok, ok...

Subbed for your recognition of Lemmy's divinity. Rock on!

A clinical narcissist will never ask that question.

@kayjay7585

5 ай бұрын

​@@nubisnotstump that's a good point XD Fewest people who seek appearing in media or on stages are not above-average in narcissism. But a person with the full on narcissistic personality disorder is extremely unlikely to ask themselves that question. There are a few here on youtube like "self aware narcissist" or "HG Tudor".

@William_Earl

5 ай бұрын

Except now everyone knows that asking yourself this question = not a narcissist. So what does a narcissist do with this info? Publicly ask the question in some way to garner support that they are not one. Not calling Mary one, just stating narcissistic awareness content has over saturated social media, that even narcissists know enough of the basics to mask better than before.

@HORNGEN4

5 ай бұрын

Not true. NPD is one of the least understood "disorders". It's an extremely wide spectrum with a diversity of traits. People with NPD can absolutely acknowledge they have it.

@le_th_

5 ай бұрын

@@nubisnotstump Trying to go viral.

@mysongsmystory

5 ай бұрын

I find it amazing how many people that are completely clueless about narcissism that claim to be experts on the subject. You hit the nail on the head, creatives to an extent need to have that extreme confidence and belief that they are the best that has ever been when performing, anything less and they aren’t giving it their best. The key is WHILE PERFORMING. Are musicians/entertainers/performers narcissists? Some most definitely are. I’m chasing my dream after shelving it for 30 years, I call this season in my life my “season of unreasonable confidence”, do I truly think I’m the best there has ever been? Of course not, do I approach every single writing, recording, rehearsal, photo shoot as if I am? Damn right I do, if I don’t no one will.

Jimi Hendrix was always one of my favorite because his incredible virtuosity on the guitar was only surpassed by his infamous humility and lack of ego. I became a musician because music moves my soul and, as an introvert, I don't communicate well on a social level so my music is my way to communicate my thoughts and feelings to the world in hope that someone out there can relate to it.

@le_th_

5 ай бұрын

It is believe he had Borderline Personality Disorder so of course he had humility and lack of superego, and it's also why he abused drugs. BPD is most often misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder (by well-meaning but under-educated psychologists).

@goldflo91

5 ай бұрын

​@@le_th_Many artists use drugs to be able to create and perform, otherwise they wouldn't dare doing anything because they're introverts

@joerenzetti1

5 ай бұрын

@@le_th_ Yes it was known when he got drunk a Mr Hyde violent personality would emerge then.

@infiniti28160

5 ай бұрын

@@le_th_ If you actualy read up on the etymology of person via Latin persōna , you will find it to mean a mask or actor, in which the whole world is a stage. Are you for real to buy into the whole affair of modern psychology when the ancient greeks had worked it all out already?

@daisy9910

5 ай бұрын

My late mother in law dated him for 2 years when she was a teenager. He was known to be kind to her. Perhaps with the drug usage, his behaviour changed over time.

Wow, you flipped the criticism to your advantage, amazing. Respect went up x10. Me and my daughter watched it together, it was really thought provocative. You are our hope and reflection of our musical journey. Keep it up!

I love that you include your research to support your commentary. It protects your channel of personal opinion. You stir the viewers mind.

Ahhh…the narcissist. As a musician, I have dealt with this quite a bit!!! (People saying I am narcissistic.) Basically, I’m just a person who happens to EXPRESS myself through music! Well said, my friend!!!

@PerteTotale

5 ай бұрын

EGO is not NCS! Most folks cannot detect a core ncs. only the blatant. They are so borderline psychopaths.

@miahconnell23

5 ай бұрын

“Front-man syndrome” or “diva behaviour” isn’t the same thing as narcissism. Psychiatrists & the wider world need a different word for the hurtful-to-everyone clinical sort of narcissism.

Oh dear. I get a handful of viewers who call me out as a narcissist, too. It is so lazy when someone says that. Of course, one has to be theatrical and "on" like an actor when making and presenting videos on KZread. Thanks for this!

@JacoWium

5 ай бұрын

It is indeed lazy, and I suspect, often a form of projection. Additionally, it seems to me that a heck of a lot of frequent posters on internet forums and social media are addicted to a feeling of moral superiority over others. It's like they sleep better at night if they've managed to accuse strangers of being some form of -ist. Or, am I too projecting right now! Maybe, but for all my other faults, lazily accusing others of character defects without knowing that person is something I do avoid doing.

Mary, I love how you take a comment like that and examine it. It's so much more effective than getting angry at someone trying to troll you. Thank you for the continued great content.

You are very entertaining, Mary! Your level of self-awareness and enthusiasm for the art & craft of music & for exploring issues like this (rather than taking offense) is NOT narcissicistic, it's honest, confident, & the essence of a creative personality. That's what I see.

Love your perspectives as always!! You are NOT a narcissist by virtue of how much you give back in your art.

The Lemmy Airheads reference tells me that, even if you are a narcissist, you are still awesome! As others have said, self-reflection like this suggests you are not afflicted with this malady. You are a performer, trying to grow your brand. If you are good to others, don't worry about it.

There’s no way narcissism plays any part of who you are Mary, you’re a musician and share yourself openly. ☮️

Your "narcissism" had been a wonder gift, considering how much so many of us have had our lives enriched by your content. Thank you!

@pangeaproxima3681

5 ай бұрын

ok, ok...

@illiniwood

5 ай бұрын

Except, she's not a narcissist. Not even in the least.

Ms. Spender, keep up the excellent, brilliant, and meticulous work, and if someone doesn't like what you say or present, they can go through the blood, sweat, and tears process of lighting, scripting, filming, editing, and uploading a video response explaining and justifying their point of view about you. I just think you are really damn great and have worked your posterior off to achieve the success you have enjoyed thus far. Namaste. 🙏 And may you have many more years of success and accolades.

@JacoWium

5 ай бұрын

Oh I'd sign my name under your post if I could! Brilliantly said. 👍

I really like your little lecture. I am even more impressed by the sound of your voice and the incredibly clear pronunciation.

As always, Mary, you're an island of sanity in a sea of chaos.

Wow! I've been a stage performer for 58 years and this gives me a lot to think about. Thank you Mary.

Thanks Mary! Art is just feeding the need to express yourself with more than words. All artists are insecure and fragile to criticism because of the vulnerable nature of a truthful performance. Musical performance is one of the fastest ways I know to get it out and feel instant gratification. Courage in Art is part of the creative process. I always believed the little Greek boy fell in the water and drowned himself…

Mary, your videos always bring me joy, thank you for your inspiring content

I have watched your channel for years ! Your humble , and talented and very appreciated! Your definitely in touch with your inner creativity, and understanding and coveying your work!

Amidst all the craziness in life today, I sincerely enjoy your ability to educate us with your journey and all of the aspects of it, good and bad.If you ever tire of the music business as your one true love of life, you can certainly continue to share your research and stories as a wonderful lecturer.

Judging someone as being narcissistic is done so from a moral "high ground". Rather narcissistic in itself, in my opinion. Keep doing what you're doing and leave the judging to the narcissists

@le_th_

5 ай бұрын

Not always. Some people have studied these disorders, academically, for so many years that they not only can spot a narcissist they can tell you which type of narcissistic coping strategy someone is using, and when their behavior and statements show they're in narcissistic collapse or circling the drain. For example, saying Donald Trump and Kanye are narcissists is not only accurate, it's fairly well-known publicly. Saying that Taylor Swift admits she's a covert narcissist in her song lyrics is not a statement from any moral high ground, it's a fact. She states this in her lyrics. Considering that narcissistic personality disorder is a characterological disorder aka character disorder (as in MORAL character), you don't have to head to high ground to be automatically morally superior to them because they're not far from morally bankrupt. Again, stating facts...not claiming superiority. It's a spectrum disorder so you'll notice that some are more overt and brag about their moral bankruptcy while others are more covert in trying to hide it (like Swift has for over a decade, until stating it and her overinflated ticket prices reflecting how special she truly thinks she is). The most frightening ones are the ones who are more closeted because you never see them coming until it's too late. A Trump, Kanye, Hitler, or Hussein let you know how unique they perceive themselves to be, and how above the law. You don't have to use discernment to assess people's character, but I prefer to avoid narcissists like the plague, so I will continue to assess people's moral character and behavior for signs so I can avoid them.

@PaulStargasm

5 ай бұрын

@@le_th_ Something tells me the person who called her a narcissist wasn't one of those people. I think someone that educated would address the topic more tactfully.

@mauer62

5 ай бұрын

I agree and most musicians are empaths like myself. We take our pain from a narcissistic world and make something beautiful out of it. I was married to a Borderline which is very close to a narcissist.

@DavidMyrickPlus

5 ай бұрын

@@mauer62 virtual fistbump to you, my friend, it only gets better

@SuicideVan

5 ай бұрын

No, narcissism is a manifestation of traits and behaviors that can be objectively identified and cataloged. Narcissism's manifestation is a coping mechanism to deal with deep seated insecurities. The thing about narcissists is that they often self sabotage because although they may attempt to display overconfidence and self importance on the surface, deep down they don't believe it. Eventually that deep insecurity destroys their interpersonal relationships halting their personal and professional growth.

You are charismatic, and that makes it a pleasure to learn from you. You have a good influence on my creativity and I’m grateful for your energy.

There’s a difference between narcissism and confidence.

You are not a narcissist but rather a creative realist and appear to be warm & likeable.

Food for thought. Insightful as always. Thank you, Mary Spender.😘

we love who you are and never stop just being you Mary ❤

This is, without a doubt, the most apropos video response to a detached social media comment. Yours is a powerful, healthy perspective. Bravo, Mary.

I luv the Mary Spender Trio ... !!! I hope they appear more often ... Ms. Spender you are not a narcissist.... ! ... You are so creative & so gifted ... It is a Warped mind & a jealous one who would think that .... ❤

Je suis toujours surpris par la profondeur des discussions que je retrouve dans tes vidéos Mary. Il est évident que tu prends le temps de lire sur le sujet et de rassembler tes idées en un texte cohérent afin d'enregistrer une "bonne" vidéo. Merci beaucoup Mary. J'adore ce que tu fais. C'est-à-dire ta musique, tes collaborations, et - bien sûr - les vidéos comme celui-ci où tu abordes un sujet précis. En passant, j'adore ta voix posée et si douce 😊

@petercino6972

5 ай бұрын

Hey Duolingo might be working Bernard, I also love Mary's work. I get the feeling Mary's creative is a bit fueled by her passion of research. A dual-brain thinker! (Not from a need to portray a god like image) To speak to the trends in music, lyrics are the only part of a song that can actually illustrate ideas. Topics that are more sentimental to the individual allow for the listener to identify with their work. Really good artists have an ability to allow for different kinds of people to identify with their work. Way to go! Allons-zi!

@CQJR007

5 ай бұрын

Entièrement d'accord avec tes propos. Et elle a assurément une sexy voice 😎

I appreciate your offerings showing us your travels, various encounters and endeavors reflecting thoughts and questions along the way.

Genius Mary! That turn around was nothing short of spectacular!!! Love it!

You nailed it Mary, the creative without empathy leads to the unhealthy version of Narcissism. That's not what comes across from you however. You, like myself and many of my colleagues are deeply sensitive to others feelings and its what makes us love to create but fearful of performing sometimes. And yes, we have all had that singer who does it for the attention and treats you like a hired carpenter on his own personal building site. I am loving your channel and admire your confidence, honesty and maturity. Brilliant insights, please do keep creating!

I love your trios, btw. More, please.

I think that was the most informative content I have seen on the subject ,Delivered with excellent pace. Thank you Mary.

Eloquent and thought-provoking as ever. (And I love the Trio videos - more please!)

Definitely don't think you are a narcissist Mary. I find you quite modest in your videos.

Hey Mary - you are definitely not a narcissist. I’m not a licensed psychiatrist or psychotherapist but I believe since you care about us, your loyal audience, and aim to provide smart, thoughtful and really intelligent content you are definitely not staring at yourself in the water but looking at us. What we aren’t doing well as a community or a society is helping people appreciate themselves for their talents. And hey, if there are Bonos in this world, they always get balanced by an Edge. One bone to pick Ms. Mary - you coming to Canada someday? Keep up the awesomeness Mary!

Good luck on tour miss spender!

Wow! Well presented, Mary!

Love the 3 piece band 😊It's not narcissistic at all. Thanks for all the great content.

@jsmythib

5 ай бұрын

3 Mary's! I laughed. It was an awesome production :)

I know a bit about this topic :) Calling specific others "narcissists" is a classic form of... projection. Unless one is a psychologist, we're not qualified to diagnose others. At best we could say "this person has many characteristics of narcissists". But making videos and having fun requires some courage to put ourselves out there - and few real narcissists have the talent to actually do anything.

@JacoWium

5 ай бұрын

Yep, fully agreed. Another driver in such behaviour could be a pathological need to feel morally superior to others. Deep down we all probably would like to think we're the ones with superior character, but a healthy dose of humility should remind us that it's probably not true.

@Banzo_

5 ай бұрын

I knew a musician friend for like 4 years and 3 years in I realized he was most likely a narcissist. (He's 57-58) I never said it to his face, but I brought it up with people we hung around. I didn't say he was one, but I feel like he was/is one. He busked to make a living and coach surfed, pretty much a bum. He was very manipulative, social, and he hung around younger people (15-25) majority of the time, including me. I could see he was taking advantage of people through their generosity (even me), but if they ended up having a problem with him he'd turn around and get mad and talk crap about them. I felt he turned a lot of local musicians against me and made stuff up about me because I flirted/messed with a chick he was sorta involved with. (they weren't bf and gf or anything, it wasn't serious.) But I think he felt intimidated or something and decided to socially destroy me through spreading rumors. There's more to it why I strongly feel he's a narcissist, like his random bouts of anger, jealousy, and "friendly insults." But anyway. He was the first encounter I've had with a narcissistic "friend" and he sorta burned me in my home town. I'm a huge introvert and he's extroverted so he was running his mouth off everywhere we went and played and stuff behind my back and acted all friendly when I was around. If you read this thanks. There's no meaning behind it

I love your trio videos. If that fellow thinks you are a narcissist, he hasn't been following you. I find your humility refreshing, Mary.

Mary, as always great content, well researched and an interesting watch. After having been married to someone with Narcissistic Tendencies for 22 years, I love learning from others about this disorder and further supporting my decision to end that marriage and live my life to the fullest. Many of us walk that fine line, and being a musician and creative person (graphic designer) myself I have wondered if I also have those same tendencies. I now know that my empathy and compassion far out weight any slight narcissistic behavior that I may have because I truly love helping others in any way I can. Keep up the great work, videos and music. Another big fan, Mike.

Many speakers and entertainers and teachers and ministers love hearing their own voice. So, join the crowd. Nothing wrong with it. There are some celebrities who are amazingly humble like Henry Winkler and Paula Abdul but enjoying attention is not a crime. Go for it!

@krusher74

5 ай бұрын

Paula abdul was not a person i though would be an example, not that im saying you are wrong , just caught me offguard.

Mary Spender a narcissist? No way! Self-absorbed? Not even! Doggedly determined at pursuing her dreams and sharing what she's learned on the way? Absolutely! Mary, the way you share the ups, downs, successes and failures in your endeavors make you authentic. That's the most opposite to narcissism that I can think of.

Enormously entertaining (and informative). Excellent work, Mary.

I love the way you took this person’s crass attempt to crush you and spun it into a positive. Very classy. I wish I was that gracious.

As you described the traits of narcissism I couldn't help but recall one particular embarassment that went on for 4 years.

True narcissists don't question their narcissism. Thank you for being a slice of rational sanity in the world of KZread chaos. Hope to see you performing in the Seattle area someday.

I love the way you handled this!

And we are looking forward to listening to your album! Keep up your original work as an artist!

Anyone who calls you a narcissist probably is one, and speaks out of jealousy. Keep up the good work you do, Mary.

I have never picked up a narcissistic feel from your videos. Your first example of a narcissist ( Billie corghan) is absolutely spot on.

@florkgagga

4 ай бұрын

Also about Bono - I'd say that's kind of a popular example but every documentary or interview shows they are down to earth people, also, back in the day, famous for preferring Sarajevo and Bosnia, where they are treated like normal buddies, over Croatia (where I am from) where the paparazzis were unbearable, just like with Brangelina. Also the Jesus comparison, omg can't believe some go on about it when you can watch the interview and note the tone with which it was delivered by Lennon. Anyway, imagine Ms. Spender being overly shy and apologetic on camera, it would be a drag to watch 😂.

Hi. Excellent analysis. Well researched. Rational, reasoned, balanced and very insightful/useful. Kudos.

SO glad you can take such comments with a grain of salt. People will always try to get your attentionby tearing you down . By responding to this jerk you'll probably NEVER get rid of him now. I like your content, keep up the great work.

Alanis Morissette is God. Re: Dogma (1999) 😃

@kolt4d559

5 ай бұрын

👉😉👍

if anyone were to refer to you as narcissistic, I would immediately wonder what kind of weird issues they have going on.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Well done, Mary. Very well done, indeed. I’m certain that this isn’t why you made this video, but I just sent this to multiple pastor friends. This is excellent and very beneficial information.

Good video Mary. Creativity is a road of growth. Keep up the good work.

Very well put together Mary. God Bless! ❤

I’ve thought the same thing many times ! You love to hear yourself talk !

Wow, thank you so much for this Mary. I received a similar comment moments before watching this. I took time out to examine my motives as a creative. Your well researched comments have really helped me get ballance with that process. Thank you, thank you, I love your channel and appreciate your honesty and openness. I’m sure that many creatives are going to find this video very helpful and encouraging (you have done the hard work for us Mary). Best wishes for 2024 Mary and keep on churning out those amazing videos. Dave (a former Pom) from Sydney, down-under 🇦🇺

Such a beautiful analytical perspective Mary.

The incidence of diagnosable narcissism is way lower than people think it is. People just like throwing that word around without knowing what it really is, how it’s diagnosed, etc.

That was a smooth transition to your tour promotion! Very well done. I’m too self-deprecating to be narcissistic. And I suck at creating art so I think there’s a correlation! 😅

Profound. Great reminder. Cheers!

Mary Spender! I was going to write a long letter, but I think I’ll only tell you how much I appreciate your personality and video contributions! I am a stage actor and know a lot about the subject of narcissism, and your personality is very far from the bad aspects of a narcissistic personality. But talented as few! Keep it up, and don’t forget Eckhardt Tolle, as I recommended to you a long time ago.❤

Perfect! You take a comment, that was presumably meant as a slur (unintentional musical pun), and make it the subject of your new, and informative, video. Brilliant! Keep up the good work.

Very well presented and well balanced analysis. Clearly, Mary's talents extend beyond music. Take a bow Mary,.. you are talented, creative, well mannered and self-composed, and evidently very intelligent and capable overall.

Once more a great piece of insight and reflection. I could listen to your explanations for hours! Thank you so very much!

Always enjoy you videos. So entertaining. People often equate narcissists with a negative quality. At the end of the day, as I see it, it comes down to how we enjoy life and what we choose to give back to our world. Contribute to our world. You contribute so much enjoyment to so many around the world.

Great video, Mary. All this rides on fine lines of course. equilibrium is elusive but the best, like you, return to it, if not effortlessly, then with joy and humility.

Yes, it seems clear that some amount of self-confidence and wanting to be seen is necessary to be a performer (musician, actor, comedian, etc.). We are glad you discussed this in an empathetic way.

Terrific analysis!

You had me at "Lemmy IS God!" And another quote from Lemmy "Kayne? Never heard of her"

Thanks much for the insightful discourse.

Mary, you come across as quite genuine with a confidence that is both earned and justified. We'll admire that along with your talents. That way you can spend more time letting your abilities lead you along your creative path. Self-promotion is part of a working artist's life. I have a friend/guitar teacher who is also a super talented professional musician. He has mentioned that plugging his shows and other self-promotion used to stress him out more than playing for big crowds. But it is as important a part of an artist's life as eating. And those two things are not unrelated. Thanks for sharing!

Congratulations, you're a human being. We're all the stars of our own stories and in your case, grateful that you're sharing your story.

I think this was very brave and very helpful, thanks for making this video!

Excellent video. Very insightful and informative. I love these! Keep em coming!

We all love your style and the way you perform.Just stay as you are ❤

Narcissism is a trendy term of the last few years on social media. As usual with these things most people don’t really understand its meaning. It’s used as just another way of putting someone down and boosting their ego at the same time. The be an effective artist you really do need a considerable self belief and a certain resilience to criticism. Without those characteristics your artistic life will be fraught and torturous. The mean spirited self centred narcissistic types don’t play well with others. We don’t want them on stage with us for one simple reason. When we play together our individual jobs are, at least in part , to help make everyone else look great. That’s how we become bigger than the sum of our parts. Narcissists can’t do that. Wonderful video Mary!

Mary is a genius !!! I adore her.

Thanks for the dive into narcissism. What a great way to deal with a snarky comment like that. 😀

That entire video was brilliant! Bravo!

Important thing to beleive in, is that many people love you and love what you do, your music.❤

Thanks Mary - I loved this video. I have recently parted company from a very successful band due to the narcissist lead singer becoming destructive and making it all about him. Fortunately, I also play guitar in another band for which there are no narcissists, and thus why we have been together for over 25 years and will continue to do so.

Thanks, Mary. Super informative, balanced. Great job!

excellent, Mary.

Thank you for this ☺

Very thought provocative! And your bibliography leads down more fascinating rabbit holes.

Super interesting. I often wondered about the contrast between narcissism and open creativity

“Oh Lord, it’s hard to be humble….” 😎 I absolutely adore your “Mary and the Maryonettes” videos. (BTW, you’re waaaay better than the other two) 😘

Even the term "creatives"; it's capture, warping and taken hostage as THE abbreviated single-word term to describe "producers of videos on your social media engine of choice", is a great example of narcissism.

You're not a narcissist, you're just brilliant. This was fascinating. I know you as doing music stuff but I didn't know you were also a professor.