HD DVD: A Decaying Format (XBOX 360 HD DVD Player)

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We take a look at HD DVD as a format as well as the XBOX 360 HD DVD player. If you ever owned any HD DVD physical media, let us know in the comments!
Special thanks to Christian for providing the music for the first 10mins of the video. You can check out his stuff here: / @christiangray18

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  • @LaneWynn
    @LaneWynn Жыл бұрын

    Another banger. HD DVD always seemed like a novelty to me growing up since I got into the 360/PS3 generation around 2010. I was so excited to play FFXIII on my 360! All three disks of it. Which I thought was normal after years of emulating the PS1 FFs. Imagine my surprise when I found out the PS3 (Blu-Ray) print could hold ALL three disks in a single one. That was my favorite impression of Blu-Ray growing up.

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great comment! The leap in storage from DVD to Blu-ray was insane. I didn't have a PS3 until years after its run, and I remember those 3 discs back when I played XIII and didn't think anything of it neither. My first real understanding of how much of an upgrade Blu-ray was from DVD was with special features for movies. I was always about scouring all the bonus content whenever I bought a new movie and it was nuts how content that would've been allocated to a separate disc with DVD or just not included at all was all on one disc, movie included!

  • @califaern3sto

    @califaern3sto

    5 ай бұрын

    Xbox 360 games max out at 8.5 gigs while blu-ray maxes out at 50 gigs

  • @thierrydelage1681
    @thierrydelage16815 ай бұрын

    I owned the entire HD-DVD collection at some point (that's 867 individual titles) and ALL of the Warner discs ended up being totally unreadable (or with heavy video/audio skips) within 10 years. Some of the Combo discs (double sided with one side DVD and one side HD-DVD) from other studios like Universal also had the same problem and after several years the HD-DVD side started to have problem while the regular DVD side of the disc remained trouble free. Anyway this problem is not isolated to HD-DVD and some blu-ray discs also show the same type of problem depending on the place they have been manufactured and the quality of the solvents and glue used to seal the aluminium layer of the disc containing data (although nothing so dramatic with bluray as it was with Warner HD-DVDs). I'm a heavy HD movie collector since 2006 and among the +10000 blurays in my collection, less than 1% of the discs have shown rot or reading problems though years which is not too bad as far as most of the time when a disc has a problem i manage to get it exchanged (on the condition it's still produced) contacting manufacturers customer service 😉

  • @vineract731
    @vineract731 Жыл бұрын

    When I started noticing hddvd in stores bluray was already a thing but I do remember thinking the red cases were cooler

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    The red cases are super slick. My favorite standard Blu-rays are the varient colors (Hulk w/ the green case, Avengers w/ the bright red).

  • @jamescampbell8482
    @jamescampbell84823 ай бұрын

    I was an HD DVD early adopter. When the Xbox 360 was first announced, Microsoft had initially floated the idea of having HD DVD built into the 360 and I think that would have helped the format last a lot longer if not win. I still have my copies of King Kong The Aviator Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory The Matrix trilogy The Mummy and Mummy Returns. The format was cheaper than Blu-ray by like a lot, and compared to the earlier blu-ray releases HD DVD had cleaner picture quality because early Blu-ray discs were still using the mpeg2 codec. The Toshiba HD A1 HD DVD player also had the best DVD upscaling available at the time. I only wish I had had an HD CRT instead of a rear projection LED back when I first got high definition.

  • @danmann861

    @danmann861

    11 күн бұрын

    I don’t think MS really wanted to commit. They’ve been pushing all digital for too long. They wanted the Xbox to be the media server of the living room. And when they say that, it means were pushing all digital.

  • @Spikenector
    @SpikenectorАй бұрын

    I still have some adult HD-DVDs, those are great !!!

  • @Scifi4life

    @Scifi4life

    18 күн бұрын

    Any films starring Sara jay?

  • @hakopa_nt
    @hakopa_nt Жыл бұрын

    Got recomended this video and im a fan of how you present the information like an actual presentation.

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and for the compliment!

  • @Hihopeyouhaveawonderfulday
    @Hihopeyouhaveawonderfulday3 ай бұрын

    Commenting in 2024. Still have HD DVD's and the 360 Drive and just finished viewing Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind in the "decaying format". I find the image and sound quality of HD DVD equal or to Blu-Ray whether viewed on my 1080p Plasma or Epson 1080p projector. I own 25 HD DVD's and the only one that skips at some points is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. Otherwise every other disc still works. Also I bought the Player and HD DVD's in 2011 when the 360 HD DVD player was $35 brand new and brand new discs were going for $2-5 a pop!

  • @basurerodej8501
    @basurerodej8501 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks KZread Recommendations, hope you guys get more subs, this was a great video!

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @ENNEN420
    @ENNEN420Ай бұрын

    I still remember that I always knew Blu-Ray would win because of the PS3. Actually kinda nuts that there was a time where (understandably) for others that wasn't very clear that HD-DVD wasn't long for this world..

  • @davidstring8301
    @davidstring8301 Жыл бұрын

    WB disc rot isn't just an HD-DVD problem. The problems with the WB discs is because of a production problem at the Cinram plant. DVDs and blu-rays from the same factory have the same disc rot problems.

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    That's insane! Really defeats the idea of building a collection if these particular discs have such a short shelf life. Sucks to see so many releases fall victim to this.

  • @Loophole23742

    @Loophole23742

    8 ай бұрын

    My Warner bros movies are fine on Blu-ray and dvd. Seems like the issue is specific to hd dvd, mate😉Nice try😂😂😂

  • @bubba842

    @bubba842

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Loophole23742They have to be from the same time period. The Cineram plant closed shortly after 2008. There is even a code on the affected discs that you can check. If your discs have that code they came from that plant.

  • @bjorntorsten8241
    @bjorntorsten8241Ай бұрын

    Great great video! Love it

  • @hammerheadms
    @hammerheadms5 ай бұрын

    Those 1st generation Blu-ray discs had very poor black levels. One thing you will notice is when a screen goes black in a movie on HD DVD is the screen is legitimately dark. The same could not be said about those first Blu-rays. A black screen always gave off a tremendous amount of light.

  • @Superdimensional

    @Superdimensional

    4 ай бұрын

    I don’t know if I’d say “first generation” I’d refer to it as the first wave of titles…. But that was more due to codec choices, once Blu-ray went to AVC MPEG 4, it was game over for HD-DVD, as it looked much better than the softish looking low bit rate VC-1 that was highly prevalent in HD-DVD.

  • @Exole
    @Exole Жыл бұрын

    Nice video as always guys!

  • @CarsandCats
    @CarsandCats4 ай бұрын

    I'm on my second drive now. The first one lasted 15 years. I only had one disc fail so far and it looks perfect but will not play: Chronicles of Riddick.

  • @ThaDudePat
    @ThaDudePat2 ай бұрын

    great video guys

  • @RyneMcKinney
    @RyneMcKinney5 ай бұрын

    This doubles as one of the last ramnants of the blades dashboard. Nice video

  • @Dash120z
    @Dash120z Жыл бұрын

    I always thought HD DVD was far more interesting than Blu Ray..

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    It definitely has a very interesting history! Do/have you owned any HD DVDs?

  • @Dash120z

    @Dash120z

    Жыл бұрын

    no, but I own an Xbox 360 and I always wondered what would've happened if this format was included built on the 360 instead.

  • @Superdimensional
    @Superdimensional4 ай бұрын

    Blu-ray had a 20gb advantage over HD-DVD (not 10) as well as a higher maximum bit rate. That’s why it was “better”

  • @MrOnyxWolf
    @MrOnyxWolf Жыл бұрын

    I see HD-DVDs once in awhile. But mostly you'll more likely to see them at thrift stores or Goodwill. As I did see the Transformers (2007) HD-DVD 4 days ago. I hope you guys do a video on Betamax tapes. I remember seeing Godzilla 1985 on Betamamx long time ago in 1996.

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    Betamax is super interesting to us, we'll def consider covering it eventually. A lot of these HD-DVDs we actually found at places like thrift stores and used video stores! Always cool to find a red case in the wild.

  • @MrOnyxWolf

    @MrOnyxWolf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PhoneDawg I look forward to it when that happens. I'll be honest to say that HD-DVD & Betamax are the underdogs of media formats. Their history & importance are more interesting than anything. I hope to find a Betamax tape in the wild one day.

  • @Fingerling2012

    @Fingerling2012

    4 ай бұрын

    Yea picked up chronicles of riddick and beowulf for hd dvd a couple years ago at a goodwill, was hoping to find a player but they didn’t have any so I picked one up on eBay for $15, I work for a trash company and someone threw out a bunch of hd dvds was able to get transformers 12 monkeys and King Kong the others were ruined, hoping to find a cheap 360 and a hd dvd player one of these days

  • @halo3odst
    @halo3odst4 ай бұрын

    Oh it’s not just warner brothers discs you need to worry about. I recently discovered that my clean copies of aeon flux, chronicles of riddick, and jarheads dont work and i believe that they are all universal studios discs. Some have even been resurfaced.

  • @Coolman13355

    @Coolman13355

    Ай бұрын

    It's definitely my understanding that the format as a whole is prone. WB discs are just the worst offenders.

  • @bizzybee3021
    @bizzybee30215 ай бұрын

    Pulls out a holy grail ps3 4 usb . nice low-key flex.

  • @saitamasouls4366
    @saitamasouls4366 Жыл бұрын

    good video! idk if you know but Netflix is actually ending the dvd mail service this year

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw that on Twitter the other day. Didn't even know they were still doing it fr, I would've still been getting discs in the mail!

  • @ThaDudePat
    @ThaDudePat2 ай бұрын

    just bought the xbox hd dvd player for 25 bucks i just need an hd dvd to try it out!

  • @rjfailarcade
    @rjfailarcade Жыл бұрын

    Was just about to ask if we were ever getting new vids

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    More on the way soon!

  • @Mythical6255
    @Mythical6255 Жыл бұрын

    It’s been 3,000 years…

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to be back in the dawg pen

  • @nonsuch
    @nonsuch4 ай бұрын

    Funny, In the early 2000's I used to be the "next slide" guy at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center. I would always ask the presenter if they wanted a remote to switch the slides themselves and the majority took it. So about 75% of the time I literally did nothing and got paid for it. I was basically a glorified babysitter. 😂

  • @tezcanaslan2877

    @tezcanaslan2877

    4 ай бұрын

    Good to know that Americans tax money was going towards an important thing

  • @nonsuch

    @nonsuch

    4 ай бұрын

    @@tezcanaslan2877 I wasn't a government worker. I was a contractor paid by another company. You can blame them.

  • @ops7917
    @ops79175 ай бұрын

    Always preferred HD DVD over blu ray. Never had these issues with my discs and I still have some since 2006.

  • @cleverobinson446
    @cleverobinson446 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoying that banana Mr. Dawg?

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    The look and sound of perfect :)

  • @kelly806
    @kelly806 Жыл бұрын

    Can I play my 8 Track collection on one of these?

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    It's worth a shot!

  • @jonjonrods5776
    @jonjonrods577610 ай бұрын

    Sony dumped ridiculous amounts of money to get exclusive deals and HdDvd could not compete

  • @Loophole23742

    @Loophole23742

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah and hd dvd were shit😂 some if I recall we’re only 1080i🤷 Not bad if your playing them on a small monitor or tv though. The only reason I wanted one back in the day was because that format had exclusive rights to the Matrix and I wanted that movie. I waited till Matrix eventually came to Blu-ray. Back then that was a big deal.

  • @bubba842

    @bubba842

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Loophole23742All HD DVDs were 1080p. Some early players were 1080i.

  • @Superdimensional

    @Superdimensional

    4 ай бұрын

    Both sides had their allies, but it’s commonly misrepresented as “Sony vs Toshiba” when it was really the HD-DVD promotion group vs the Blu-ray Disc Association. It’s said Panasonic had more invested than Sony did.

  • @stachumalygnojek6248
    @stachumalygnojek62483 ай бұрын

    😊 😊😊😊 😊😊😊

  • @popmedia2887
    @popmedia2887 Жыл бұрын

    Smiling Friends shirt 👀 Based

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    I heard the renaissance men are coming to town.

  • @pukalo
    @pukalo2 ай бұрын

    Bananas should not crunch like that.

  • @gamagama69
    @gamagama694 ай бұрын

    4:58 ethernet tho

  • @khalilmoss1315
    @khalilmoss1315 Жыл бұрын

    Comment!

  • @PhoneDawg

    @PhoneDawg

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm honored.

  • @maples328
    @maples3285 ай бұрын

    😂 of course Sony was losing over $100 for every PS3 they sold which caused them to pay big retailers Millions of dollars 💵 If they would stop 🛑 giving HDdvd 📀 shelf space (Walmart, cough).

  • @soluzaroi
    @soluzaroi5 ай бұрын

    I left a like but I disliked the heat gun for reflowing nooooooooooooo!

  • @vdochev
    @vdochev4 ай бұрын

    I though you just play your HDDVDs in the XBOX's drive like, you know, the OTHER console you can watch movies on.

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