f2nd is the undeniable winner and nobody will ever change my mind

@yukaristannn

4 жыл бұрын

same

@ayumiis

4 жыл бұрын

F2nd looks like she hasnt washed her hair in weeks

@lanidoodle6830

4 жыл бұрын

Ironic comment considering your profile pic...

@RandomPerson-kz9uf

4 жыл бұрын

@@ayumiis i prefer that it's darker, it fits the atmosphere better.

@sillykyuu

4 жыл бұрын

@@RandomPerson-kz9uf miku: 👁👄👁 (random ik lol)

Set the graphical differences aside, the facial expressions have improved in F2nd. Now you can see the frustration, the hurt, the desperation, the depression, and anger that she's expressing rather than the expressionless dolls from the previous series. F2nd may not look realistic, but damn it looks alive.

@originalname1008

5 жыл бұрын

The depression, *the depression*

@shadowthelegend100

5 жыл бұрын

Why the fuck would you want an animu idol game to be realistic? I get detailed but why realistic?

@user-bd9ux9xv7l

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, maybe ur right

@iamjune_mmd

5 жыл бұрын

I also really like the lighting in the F2nd version, and the animated hands for the piano playing at the beginning

@RedCloudfield

5 жыл бұрын

and that extra bit of animation when she's falling at The end, it really does add up

Imagine if F2nd fused with future tone. Graphics from ft with the expressions from F2nd :V

@kittenmimi5326

5 жыл бұрын

Damn it'd be amazing

@user-lx7yd7di1i

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing beats the effort put into f2nd and nothing beats the physics in FT

@MokosGmod

5 жыл бұрын

Future Tone is already kinda fused with F2nd because it has many songs from F series, and not only F

@ventusse

5 жыл бұрын

Not only the expression, also add the finger movements, I mean, compare her finger movements in the piano part and when she is about to touch the statue.

@ALN1ER

4 жыл бұрын

@@kittenmimi5326 excuse me..is that mystic messenger i see in your profile pic?

Objectively better? Future Tone! My preference? F2nd.

@MokosGmod

7 жыл бұрын

Same here. 0:07 we can see only in F2nd Miku is actually hitting the keys with fingers while in others she's just touching them with hand. In my opinion they put a lot of good work. The only disadvantage of Future Tone is that you have to buy small DLC packs or big one which costs 40 Euro.

@gabrielmonge418

7 жыл бұрын

zzMakomanzz ™ Yeah! You're right! I've loved the detail put to F2nd since the trailers! Also the shading is so good, it makes the graphics look better than they are, it gives the game a really polished and colorful look. It's also less bright than the others, which tend to look like they have a freaking lamp in front of their face all the time.

@MokosGmod

7 жыл бұрын

That VocaloidLover exactly. I also like the accessories feature in F series and up

@Lenkunuwu

5 жыл бұрын

@@MokosGmod how is that a disadvantage?

@LyraPyxisVT

5 жыл бұрын

@@Lenkunuwu because on the PlayStation future tone is free but you get 2 free games, then you have to buy the other songs, and on PS4 to buy the rest of the songs it's 50.99 or I think just 50 bucks

f2nd's lighting and expressions with future tone's graphics would be fascinating

@user-lx7yd7di1i

5 жыл бұрын

cloudy exactly

@charanari712

4 жыл бұрын

haha , funny thing is, the project diva f line , the models and environment at the very least, is made by the combination of the psp dev team and the arcade dev team idk if future tone and arcade are the same

@sillykyuu

4 жыл бұрын

That should have been in Megamix tbh imo ngl smh

@sillykyuu

4 жыл бұрын

@@charanari712 Future Tone is a port of the Arcade game

@zwirl4965

3 жыл бұрын

Yus I agree 😎😎

Is no one gonna talk about how when Miku in F2nd when she slides the piano keys it moves ;-;

@galfredvaldez648

2 жыл бұрын

I hadn't noticed that detail: 0, that part looks great: 3

@asoret

2 жыл бұрын

And nobody talking about the scene when she falls from the stairs, its so diferent and better in F2nd

@LowtusMob

Жыл бұрын

​@@asoretIt's thanks to the Chance Time Success effects (Hit the end star to trigger). Only in F and F 2nd tho, X doesn't do that

Future Tone has a killer model and beautiful physics on the hair, and I really love the lighting and shadows they use here. Making the steps glow was a really nice touch and it makes that scene look so much lovelier. Dreamy Theater looks too bright and saturated. It's not necessarily a bad model, but the lack of shadows and the fact that Miku looks like she's glowing in some scenes doesn't fit with this song in particular. Maybe it looks better in other songs, I'm really not sure. Extend doesn't necessarily look *bad*, but it's outdated and can't stand up to the other three. On its own, it looks great. It's well-animated and looks good. But when you put it next to more recent entries, its flaws become clear. Some of the physics are choppy. There are no shadows. Everything is static or stiff. It was fantastic for its time, and it's still a great PV, but it struggles to keep up. F 2nd is absolutely gorgeous. While the model itself isn't as good as Future Tone, and the hair physics aren't as smooth, nearly everything else is flawless. The lighting and shadows in the environments around Miku, while not as realistic as Future Tone, do an excellent job of setting the mood of the song. The facial expressions look genuine and real, as if Miku is a real human being who is actually feeling the emotions present on her face. There's so many smaller details present in the animation that the other games don't have. For example, during the scene where Miku is falling, you can see her skirt flapping as she falls. During the scenes where Miku is playing the piano and pushing the statue, you can see her fingers move individually, something that doesn't happen in the other games, where her hands are locked into one of two positions. If one were to take the graphical quality - the model, hair physics, and environments - of Future Tone and pair it with the smaller aspects - the facial expressions, the subtle movements of Miku's fingers and skirt, etc. - from F 2nd, we would have a perfect PV. Overall, my ranking would be 1. F 2nd 2. Future Tone 3. Dreamy Theater 4. Extend I do genuinely love all four PVs. This is just my thoughts on each one individually.

@SrIgort

4 жыл бұрын

I really don't understand why Sega threw all the work done on the PV of the f2nd in the trash

@RandomPerson-kz9uf

4 жыл бұрын

The thing about the skirt is, i can *k i n d a* see the skirt move a little bit in Extend, but for some reason not in DT or FT

@lazypikachu2.0

3 жыл бұрын

@@RandomPerson-kz9uf It because extend and f series have their obysics done MANUALLY witch made details more there, but starting from dreamy theatre (i think forgot) the physics is calculated by program so things might seem morr realistic but some details might be gone as its not in the coding

@lazypikachu2.0

3 жыл бұрын

@@SrIgort i kniw im SUPER late but check my previous reply

@lazypikachu2.0

3 жыл бұрын

@im only 12 send help me too, but i wxplained it, check it out!

Future tone wins look wise. And Diva F 2nd wins effects and overall effort.

F2nd’s less dynamic lighting, ironically, REALLY helps highlight the pain of this song. Even if it’s not the best looking for other songs, it is THE engine for Rolling Girl.

Did anybody notice that in F2nd Miku is pushing the sculpture without even touching it?

@yukaristannn

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but as far as I barely saw in slowed motion, all of them do.

@RandomPerson-kz9uf

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but so do the others and everything else in F2nd make up for that

PDF 2nd only can move the finger but the others not

@MokosGmod

7 жыл бұрын

SEGA's effort. Behind the scenes shows how little sega has put their effort into other Project Diva games

@hatsunemiku5694

6 жыл бұрын

zzMakomanzz ™ They do that because they need money to run their games.

@LudoMako

6 жыл бұрын

Monsonoat Alasita Most pdf2nd pvs doesn't move fingers anyway. Most pvs uses morphs, aka pre made poses and swap them between animations.

@maryphillips8069

6 жыл бұрын

Sega, porting animations from one game to the next: "Oh look! That thing with the fingers we tried to do works in this version!"

@Pluvillion

5 жыл бұрын

They focused on facial expressions more than hands animation tbh

1:12 Look at Miku's eyes after she blinks(you may need to pause cuz it's rlyyyyyy quick)She is actually staring at you while other versions are not. Especially when she put her hand in front of her face you can see the difference.

0:07 and 1:27 - Look, in F2nd her fingers actually move

-Extend: Blocky, slight mistakes (ex. 2:01-2:02 you can see miku blink very quickly) First part was ok not great but pretty fine, no shadow...,physics could be better -F2nd: I love the effects and the end part/chance time effect, the lighting is fine but miku doesn't translate too well with it, miku's hair hair is more fitting,no shadow, CLEAR EMOTION DT: TOO BRIGHT, realistic but it's a little blurred out,shadow...but it's blurred... FT: Realistic,good colors,shadow :),good lighting. my preference: I'd take F2ND but i'd also take FT though. (it's a hard to pick one...)

@deadplsdonotlook

5 жыл бұрын

The flickering eyes is actually a mistake with the recording/emulator. I even tried it on a real PSP and the flickering eyes don't happen lol

@iamjune_mmd

5 жыл бұрын

And the PSP didnt have physics, they were all hand-animated for the game

@juliobutinblender

4 жыл бұрын

In a emulador Miku blinks like if que was a emmm... Somethibg?

@parf6189

Жыл бұрын

ratio

@pineapplecatguy

8 ай бұрын

why are we talking about dynamic lighting and blocky look. It ran on a psp, its a miracle it was 30fps

1:22 Miku looks so angry in F2nd this expression is so cool

I'm very much a FACIAL EXPRESSION kind of person, so F2nd has my vote for best Project Diva animations overall. My 2nd choice would be FT though

Future tone may be technically better quality, but the expressions and emotions in F 2nd are just AMAZING

1:54 F2d literally looks like someone drew it!!

Omg the shading in F 2nd looks 10x better than future tone

F 2nd and Future Tone combined together... Masterpiece

Rest in Peace, Wowaka!! 💔💔😢😢

@micsmoa

5 жыл бұрын

Still cant believe him and samfree are gone, sucks

@nunusakura5643

5 жыл бұрын

This is one of my first vocaloid songs and one my favorites R.I.P Wowaka.

@keiblock1508

4 жыл бұрын

ナビラNur Nabilah I'm still depressed fromit

Extend: good for a older game! Dreamy Theater Extend: VERY bright, which I dislike F 2nd: best one, it suits the mood for rolling girl and f 2nd has a TON of emotion Future tone: ok, basically dreamy theater but less bright, so that’s a bonus! My preference: F 2nd

i'll be honest project diva F 2nd has better facial expressions, animation meanwhile future note has better graphic in terms of bloom and such 0:12 the glissando actually animated in F 2nd 1:21 the expression was deeper 2:50 subtitle effect and different camera focus for more dramatic results 3:01 her skirt actually flaps as she falling

@asoret

2 жыл бұрын

Love the camera focus at 2:50 would choose it just for that

The moment I played this song in my psp and ps vita The 1st impression when he finish playing the piano "Oh that poor piano getting slammed , ooff"

my favorite is f2nd because it has that depressing kind of look like the song should but future tone looks better

Extend won The neck made it amazing Jkjk, F2nd and Future Tone win

@RandomPerson-kz9uf

4 жыл бұрын

This... is the best comment I've seen why doesnt this have many likes?

Extend wins in originality, F2nd wins in expressions, Dreamy Theatre wins in sound, Future Tone wins in graphics. See, everyone's great.

@MokosGmod

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by "Dreamy theater wins in sound"? Every Project diva game has same quality of sounds and songs.

@ROBORACCOON64

4 жыл бұрын

@@MokosGmod -the beautiful sound effect that goes like a metallic "woosh" after pressing O to watch the pv-

F2nd has the best lighting and facial expressions while future tone has the best backgrounds and hair graphics

My rank 1. F 2nd 2. Future Tone 3. Extend 4. Dreamy Theater Extend

@calliopedollhouse259

4 жыл бұрын

Same

project diva extend : "Too blocky we need it more realistic" Project dive F 2nd : "add finger movement and some effect and maybe lower the brightness?" Project Diva Dreamy Theater Ex: "Too f****ing bright I can barely see her" Project Diva future tone "Remove effect in project diva 2nd but perfect the lighting"

Project Diva Future Tone in my opinion wins. The hair physics and the lighting are just perfect.

@calliopedollhouse259

4 жыл бұрын

stupid meme boi agree

帶來這首神曲的wowaka謝謝你QQ 我會永遠記得你的偉大QQ

こういう歴代系比較好き

1:53 great comparison.

3:02 I'm surprised that in this scene even Project Diva Extend's skirt got much more movements than in Dreamy theatre and future tone

@miyukihikawa18

4 жыл бұрын

I just now noticed that, it's looks really awkward to me now.

Tea: miku doesn’t touch the statue in any of them. Accessories and hands never touch the actual body of modules and other objects non project diva. And example would be the len and rin pose in project diva FT and F. Their hands don’t touch their hips.

@sofiacoffee5556

5 жыл бұрын

thank you! everyone keeps saying that "insert" doesn't touch it but literally none of them do haha

@ROBORACCOON64

4 жыл бұрын

my theory is that this is also probably for more flexibility when it comes to character customization, if they had the base modules actually touching stuff, modules like for example chat noir would look weird due to the paw thing clipping through the object, by making it not directly touch the object it becomes far less noticeable mikudayo is the only exception in here

her EYEBROWS in f2nd take the cake!!

Project DIVA extend and F are the best! I spent my whole life playing these two :v

If F2nd and Future Tone were combined it'd be beautiful

F2nd was an amazing games it looks gorgeous

1:01 look at DT Extend. It looks like some random anime girl cosplaying as Miku lol

THE FACT THAT THE KEYS ACTUALLY MOVE IN F 2ND

future tone looks best but i like the effects at the end with F 2nd, wish they didnt remove them

@karamuffinsfansub

3 ай бұрын

thats because of the chance time of f/f 2nd, clearing it allows you to see a different ending, sometimes is something slightly different with some effects, different camera angles, etc, but for example in kagerou daze it changes the whole video

F 2nd’s PV is so much better than all the other ones, just because of the end

F2nd has the most effort put into it. From realistic expressions to moving the fingers, especially the part when she’s falling and you see her face as well as the words following her. But hair physics make me sad

@LowtusMob

Жыл бұрын

Physics are still attached to the animation like in Extend Only in DT and FT (FT was released before X) is the physics real-time

2:58 future tone looks the best Here with the shading and stuff.

髪の感じが凄い自然になってる！

In my opinion, F2nd will ALWAYS BE THE BEST!! I actually made my own list from my fav to my least favourite 1) f2nd 2) project diva extend 3) future tone 4) dreamy theater EXTEND (I actually prefer the not Extend Dreamy theater version!)

the end of F2nd obviously the best, same that I'm not really a fan of the style. aw man the FT one just *feels and looks* good

the lighting in the window in the dreamy theater extend is awsome while f 2nd in has no lighting

Unpopular opinion but f2nd looked the best

@calliopedollhouse259

4 жыл бұрын

That's a fucking popular dude

@strawberryp8109

4 жыл бұрын

@@calliopedollhouse259 no,the most popular is future tone and i dont know why....the F series is so much better :v

@RandomPerson-kz9uf

4 жыл бұрын

While FT has slightly better physics and a higher resolution, literally everything else is better in F 2nd

@woohwiyuk8367

4 жыл бұрын

@@strawberryp8109 I love F series!

2:02 Miku's eyes did something weird in project diva extend.

2:50 Okay F2nd won.. Their Pv is on point to the original!!

the piano keys even move on the F 2nd....

Project Diva F 2nd hair physics look anime animated

At 0:51, you can see that Miku side glances expression are more elaborate in F 2nd compared to others! The hurt n angry expression conveys btter in F 2nd honestly 😍😍

Can we talk about how detail the finger of miku playing the piano on f2nd?? Future tone should’ve updated every single remake that the F series made tbh.

Graphics/physics from FT, expressions and certain movements from F 2nd

if u guys noticed they remove the eye movements in future tone and dreamy theater. That's why emotions look more convincing in F 2nd.

wow this is fukn awsome! F2nd defiantly the best one i think, especially with minor details like the piano being an actual thing with moving keys and not just a static brick

F 2 is my fave I love the highlights on miku

okay future tone is the best overall, her fingers may move on the keys better in f 2nd but who is going to look at that?! the quality and effects are better in future tone. her hair movements are gorgeous uwu

@znufkiin

5 жыл бұрын

I respect your opinion, but I guess the part where F 2nd has Miku moving her fingers is pretty nice because it shows the amount of effort they put into it. But FT is basically just an import of most songs, just with better modules. F 2nd also, in my opinion, has better hair graphics because it doesn't look as.. loose? I'm not really sure how to explain it, but FT's hair graphics look kind of odd to me. Though, a lot of other songs have really nice graphics.

@CurryWithoutMeat0602

5 жыл бұрын

peppa fich I 100% agree with you. another flaw of f2nd in my opinion is the hair seems so stuck together, like a bad statue or something. Also, at the end, future tone was the one that lit up the stairs

F 2nd is much more expressive, and while a little too dark lighting-wise, it would be perfect if fused w/ Future Tone.

gotta give it to f 2nd personally, the cel shading just looks great, a lot of the facial expressions are hte best there, and i like the overall lighting the best. props to a lot of the later-on lighting and new detail in dt and ft tho

1:01 Dreamy Theatre just looks like there is a giant light invisible in front of miku's face

The strongest part to really show off the changes in the PV in each game I would say is when she's in the basement/library. Here are my thoughts: Extend: The textures are a bit more blurred leading up to the room, but its lighting and flicker tricks work in setting it up. The room itself has very good detail for a PSP game and really gives the abandoned/creepy/decrepit feeling. Extend did the book-drawer-case the most justice in how it's presented. The others looked too clean or antique. 2:18 the pillar she passes through has a texture. 2:20 the painting to the right are more transparent, which could have been a mistake. DT: Higher quality room with updated higher quality textures but goddamn is it bright. It looks much more antique compared to Extend and F2nd. FT:It looks like they re-used DT's model of the room, but improved/enhanced the lighting. The lighting looks more natural PDF2nd: It looks light it borrowed the blurred arrows leading up to the room from Extend, but much more legible but subtle in the flickering. It's a mixed bag when she first enters the room because it looks straight out of Saya no Uta. Window frame at 2:11 looks non-existent but is blended into the pink light. 2:16 the book-drawer-case is missing to the left. I liked the one-off color choices to enhance the setting. At 2:28 where there's a brief shot of the room, you can really tell from which game version F2nd seemed to take the most notes from. Extend was the base for DT, but it also seems to be the case for F2nd. DT added extras to it with FT probably justing ripping it. F2nd has more "nasty" color choices that compliment the room. All in all, in final presentation, I like F2nd's interpretation of the end and Miku was the most expressive here compared to the others. I feel like a lot of people overlook Extend in comparison to the others since it was basically the first version with the low poly graphics and flaws. It definitely was good for its time but it's super aged. However I have a soft spot for it because it was one of the PVs with the most set pieces and rooms, making it ambitious with some better visibility of objects despite its low-res texturing (has a pretty good extreme note map for PSP). Giraffe neck Miku is a blessing and curse, but she was also animated the best she could. I played in edit mode for Extend back in the day and lemme tell you that getting a character to blink + the inclusion of limited expressions really shows the talent behind the devs in working with what they got. DT is a good enhance but I really dont like it compared to FT. It's too washed out. Final Ranking: 1. F2nd 2. Extend 3. FT 4. DT

f2nd and future tone!😍😍😍😍

著しく成長がみえて良いぞ

FTがやっぱり好きだ！！

If FT have chance time like in F 2nd it would win everything

Pause when she looks at the screen to see current mood: 0:51 Extend: oh, when did you get here? F2nd: what are you looking at?! Dreamy: did I forget to do my homework? FT: wait, why did I come in this room again?

It's all nice, it's beautiful.

okay, i love all of the models in each game but, the models from F, F 2nd, and X have this certain charm to them and i love them so much they’re so beautiful

I love both FT and F2ND because from 0:00 to around the 1:50 mark I love F2ND the lighting and the subtle finger movements on the piano is great compared to the other pd games but pass 1:50 in I love FT the, lighting in the scene is beautiful. With the part with miku falling, the zoom in on mikes face on F2ND for a few seconds makes it unique compared to the others being the only one with that effect. In my opinion, I love F2ND and FT equally as they are amazing in different ways

F 2nd wins: - More expressive - Actual hand & prop movements - Great MV effects - Overall animation quality FT is close for its great shaders and graphics

Extend was good for his time Dreamy teather Extend looks like Extend with better definition Future Tone looks like Dreamy theater extend with more definition F 2nd is completely different from the others, and I love it

@parf6189

Жыл бұрын

RATIO

Look at the hands in F2nd vs all the other ones. So much better.

In terms of graphics, Future Tone. But as others said, I love F2nd's expressions and also chance time. Why didn't Future Tone keep the chance time?! They keep it for some other songs >__>

@pineapplecatguy

8 ай бұрын

I think ot might be because they were basing of dreamy theatre and not f2nd. The chance times are in songs that originally were added in f/f2nd and rolling girl was in earlier games. Hope this helps 3 years later lmao

Dreamy theater skin is glowy F 2nd is warm looking and lots of effects Future tone Has cool hair Extend have not so black outfit

One thing I gotta ask is: Does PD Extend really made the best out of the outdated PSP hardware? Comparing PD Extend with other console releases seems a bit unfair. Put that aside, the other 3 really shows some difference using considerably similar hardwares.

F2nd is my favorite and the best IMO the lighting, facial expressions, the fact that she’s actually playing the piano and the special effects are just amazing!

I love the skirts physics in the F 2nd But I prefer Future Tone

I feel like Dreamy theater is the only one that got the lighting right. If you look at all the others, it kind of looks like they forgot about all the light in the pv. With the staircase, the sky, gin the school hallway especially. It would be perfect if we had, Future tone's visuals, F2nd's facial expression's and dreamy theater's lighting. And extend was the first to have the animation so they all have a part.

f2nd had the best pv for this, howver ft has better pvs overall

it's getting smoother

Everybody is so pretty

@iloveemuotori

3 жыл бұрын

Even though they are the same person

Project diva f and f2nd will always have my favorite style

Thanks you, wowake

1:50 When There is an update at your favorite game but you missed it be like

I like these, but Negaposi*Continues' characters' graphics on Future Tone are insane. Megamix characters' graphics are also good.

I have project diva F 2nd

@rainqwr

6 жыл бұрын

same! I wish I had a ps4.. ._.

@MokosGmod

5 жыл бұрын

F2nd can be downloaded on a ps3 emulator called Rpcs3 for free and can run at 60fps full if you set it up properly

@Ame_Katze

4 жыл бұрын

Same, i'm too poor for a ps4 lol

@yukaristannn

4 жыл бұрын

@@rainqwr I wish i had a ps4 too

@yukaristannn

4 жыл бұрын

@@MokosGmod Yes, but it is nice to play it on the system it was meant for

Remember Extend is for PSP Dreamy theater and f 2 nd ps3 Future tone is ps4

I really like the 2nd model. It has nice shadows, expressions and she is actually pressing the keys!

The better one? Project diva extend

If project F or F 2nd gets a remake witg simiar looking modules with slight upgrades (like physics or some fixed lighting or shadows and stuff) i feel lkke that will be the BESTthing ever I guess future tone still good

Future Tone has overall the best shaders and graphics but they all look good.

the acting and overall animation in f 2nd is the best of all (except the hair). They actually use overlapping action and follow through like the movements of the skirt and the acting of the hands and face expression as it has been mentioned.

Another remark I'll just post. F2nd Miku's skin tone is much more in line with Japan, however the background is much more saturated compared to Future Tone.

low poly miku is so friggin adorable!

Awe