If you want more zen doodles, here are some more fun one's you might enjoy: kzread.info/head/PLV6kGAGmDy5IjVwQU8rQ81iNJMcBJPzH7 🔥And when you're ready to REALLY take your tangles to a WHOLE new level, watch THIS: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mqSqx8x9fdmbh5M.htmlsi=G75sVU8j-YblyFvq

@Charmaine-rv9xr

Ай бұрын

Ooooh thank you!! ☺️🥰

@SharonCullenArt

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I’m so happy you posted this video. I’m sick of the so called “zentangling” and people trying to copyright their “tangles”. Coming from three generations of artists, I can tell you some of these so called “tangles” have been around for decades. They come from crocheting patterns, nature, and art of all mediums. I believe that doodling and abstract type art is a much more pleasing art to do and to view. I mean don’t we all go into a “zen” mode when drawing and producing art. I know I do. That’s why I do it and have for over 40 years… long before zentangling became a way for some people to monetize on the idea of putting zen and patterns together. Ugh

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing! I am totally seeing where you are coming from and I agree! Gotta do it for the Zen and fun of it!

@deborahraaen3059

Ай бұрын

Most tangles are taken from patterns that have been done before. The idea in the Zentangle community is to make a stepout for people to use that can’t work it out for themselves. These stepouts are given names so they can easily be found. You can’t copyright a pattern but maybe the stepout. However the community is very generous and there are several sites where people work tirelessly to collect these stepouts for you and others to use free of charge. I see nothing wrong with that.

@dilemmix

26 күн бұрын

Fully agree! When I was a teenager, my friend and I spent a lot of time doodling during boring lessons at school. Sometimes we doodled after school as well. I tell you, when I discovered zentangling I was surprised that some of the zentangles were very familliar; my friend and I came up with some of the zentangles. It's just doodling and discovering new patterns that sprout from your mind. I hate that they 'branded' Zentangling. I am suddenly not allowed to use the doodle that I came up with as a teen? Haha!

@SledDog5678

19 күн бұрын

I like freehand vs templates.

I so often see people beat themselves up thinking that their art is no good because they try to be perfect or compare themselves to other artists. I totally understand, because I did that. At 65 I finally let go of perfection and tell people art is all about having fun and playing and as you mentioned, art is subjective. Enjoy the process everyone. Have a great time loving what you do. 💜

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Absolutely, whole heartedly agree!!!!

@deborahraaen3059

Ай бұрын

Precisely the Zentangle philosophy.

You go girl! I only watch zentangle to get new ideas for doodling….love doodling…80 yrs old…decorative painter (JoSonja) for 40 years….now I am branching out to water color and doodling….woohoo…love your happy self!!!!♥️♥️♥️♥️

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Doodling is so fun! And that’s amazing! You are awesome!!!

I could not agree more! Doodling can definitely be art!!! If I doodle something and I think it's art, it shall be known from that moment forward as ART!!! LOL!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

PRECISELY!!!

@rallyrobx7604

Ай бұрын

I am of the mind that if you make a mark, it is art. We do not all have to like it, but it is art in my book.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I agree!!!

You created something nice. You are correct about doing what you like in art and not doing things you hate. I plan on not painting with oils or using oil pastels. You don’t have to like Zentangle. I think you’re missing out on some important Zentangle points and purposes. I probably have about 10 books on Zentangle which I haven’t gotten through most of them. I found Kelli Blouin, CZT, on KZread when I was looking at Inktober activities. I have grown so much in my understanding of Zentangle. She is doing florals (zentangle-inspired art) for May. Her main videos are usually “15 Minutes of Zen” and “Mandala Mondays”. Anyway, you ink your drawings to remind you not to erase. (Kelli does use an eraser for guide lines.). There are no mistakes in Zentangle. The term orbs is used instead of circles so you don’t feel you have to draw a perfect circle. The repetitive non-representation of Zentangle is meant to relax you. I have also learned some shading techniques. Kelli does her mandalas with pencil, ink, tortillon, a penny, an eraser, and a straight edge.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I totally agree that their are amazing teachers and books on Zentangling. I've made multiple videos highlighting my favorites on youtube: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIeexJWtopPJcZM.html I think it's when we start getting in to having a separate vocabulary that the struggle for me begins because I don't love it when others start putting the shapes I'm drawing into their box. I just like to draw without judgment or thinking from others. On a lighter note, I hate colored pencils so I'm never using those 🤣Thanks for watching and for your insightful and well written comment. I appreciate you!

I love tangling, I don’t pay any attention to “ the rules”, I find it to be very relaxing and stress relieving! I just love to do all the great designs and have fun! I used to be so frustrated with it until I did what you did” just do it your way “ it works for me!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I’m so glad to hear that you found your groove with it!

I used some big stencils with the lines connected. Then I Zentangled inside the different areas of the stencil. They turned out really pretty. It's really easy and looks good even if your not good at drawing. Besides it's your creative time, you can do what you want.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You are so great! And yes! Stencils are wonderful for Zentangle art!

@Muffysmom

13 күн бұрын

What a great idea!

I’ve just discovered zentangle. I think that drawing, doodling and anything that gives you thoughtfulness and relives you of anxiety is good. Call it what you like and perhaps we should stop giving things labels.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Күн бұрын

Totally!

When I discovered zentangle and they were saying you gotta buy these cards blah blah blah I was like "Ummm when did drawing become a cult???" 😂

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Really though! It should be fun!

@deborahraaen3059

Ай бұрын

You are wrong Zentangle inc. have never told anyone that they have to tangle on their tiles. I have taken their Certified Zentangle Teacher course and in the course they advocate for tangling with whatever you have. Even on the beach with a stick. On each of their videos they show their beautifully made tiles and how they can be used but they always say in the intro to each project pack that if you don’t have them that you can use whatever you have.

@Akforgetmenot

Ай бұрын

I have to agree with deborahraaen3059. I have never heard anyone with Zentangle Ink say you have to use their tiles. I doodled for years, still do……is it Zentangle, no. Is Zentangle much more to me than just art, yes.

@MkayKaye

Ай бұрын

@@Akforgetmenot I'm really happy to hear that from you guys! I probably began around 2015. It could be that I was listening to someone who was taking it really seriously and perhaps selling the tiles, I don't know. Thank you.

I am so happy to see this!! I’ve got all these books on the different “patterns” but I’m always having to check back bc I’m so stressed about not not knowing enough different patterns and then trying to do it all in a tiny space with deterioration in eyes sight, it can be a challenge. So my eye sight and memory thank you a great deal.♥️🙏🏼

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I am so happy to hear you found this helpful!!!!

This is the first video I have watched of yours, and I giggled all the way through it. I found zentangle about a year ago and loved it as a way to relax and help my anxiety. However, like you said, I hate the little tiny squares. I want to use whatever pen, paper, or even use a ruler if I want. Zentangle is about repetition, free hand, and allowing mistakes. All great, and sometimes that is okay, but most times, my ocd does not allow me to draw lines that are wonky and get bored with drawing a page of the same thing. So, as much as I am trying to allow myself to be okay with mistakes. I am also allowing myself to be okay with breaking the rules and drawing what I want and how I want, even if, in the end, it is not a zentangle or an art piece. It will just be a reflection of how I was feeling at that moment. Thank you for confirming my thoughts and that it is okay.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I love your awareness when you are! and I am so happy that you find so much joy in the practice!

Karen, I just love you! This was great. I love being one of your students. Thanks for all you do!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

4 күн бұрын

You're the best! So happy you are part of this community! 💖

Love this Zen-untangled art!❤❤❤

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

I participated in a Zentangle program last year and I totally agree with your assessment!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

12 күн бұрын

❤️

Love your enthusiasm and releasing any rules. Thanks for the inspiration❤️

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

29 күн бұрын

You are so welcome! 💖

Love how you created this base (something pretty) to then create on! I needed this today😁

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

27 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! So glad you enjoyed it friend!

I just love your style! You make it real and fun! Thank you for providing this video!!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching!

Haha I love that you had a little go at the Zentangling market! Some of their designs I came up with as a teenager when doodling during boring lessons at school. Now I'm not supposed to use these designs anymore just because someone else came up with the same 'doodle' and called it a Zentangle? No way! I draw what I want!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

25 күн бұрын

Exactly!! Draw what you want to! ❤️

I am so fired up! This video reignited my need to Zentangle!!,!, 🎉🎉🎉

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

27 күн бұрын

WOOHOO! How awesome!!!

The “Zentangle police”! I love it! 😂

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately they exist! But we can ignore them and do our own thing :)

Great ideas. I too have used the zen tangle approach as a spring board to other doodling projects/ art pieces.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

29 күн бұрын

That's so great! I am glad you enjoyed the video!

Karen, you are such a magician! You can truly make something out of nothing with the snap of your finger! This zentagle-ish design (yeah, I've heard about the not so zen zen police as well) is brilliant! Thank you so much for sharing it.🥰

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You are so welcome! Absolutely! And thank you for your kind words!

Right on. Zenadotanglish( I just made that up ) because its fun to say it and create it. Thankyou Karen for another fun video.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

HA! I love it!!! I am so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

I just found you. I love the look of zentangles but didn't know how to start. This was super helpful. I subscribed to your channel and am looking forward to more, basic, simple, inspirations. Thanks.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I am so glad you found me! I have a Zentangle playlist! A great place for beginners to start! Hope it helps! So happy you are here! kzread.info/head/PLV6kGAGmDy5IjVwQU8rQ81iNJMcBJPzH7&si=s2g5vYjBSLKmbdmi

Damn, this is just a helluva fun & wild break-outta-the-box video. You rock! Seriously. Made me grin and laugh, and feel a whole lot of great about my own rants and sessions of Stomp on Those Choking Me Rules art making. Yep, love & hate the you-know-what!? method.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I am so glad you felt seen! Thanks for watching!

Thank you for setting the zentangle free! Love how you explained the process without being rigid.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoyed it.

I loved your result…so inspiring! Thank you❤️❤️

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!

Great ideas, KarenI. 👍 I bought a Zen Tangling book some years back...when it was more popular. While I did learn and practice a few of their cool techniques...my ADD took over and I was simply not going stick with learning only their patterns and designs and then practice them over and over. One big reason is that I'd been doing my own very enjoyable and very interesting , for me, at least, designed doodles and patterns on my own for quite a few years. While I agree, regular old doodling can be a whole lot of nothing and just a fun way to waste some time, (or reduce some stress...nothing wrong w/that either,) the brand of "Zen Tangles" does not own the market on doing beautiful repetitive or meditative pattern designs. But their instruction books can be helpful if you want some ideas or prompts to take your doodling to the next level and make it more artful.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! I agree! Much good can come from the brand, yet I completely vibe with doing what works for you!

Yes! I cannot work on those little squares or circles…fine motor ! Thank you💖

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

27 күн бұрын

I am so glad you enjoyed it and felt seen! Thanks for watching!

So fun and I love your finished art!💕

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thank you so much girl! Have been enjoying your Zentangles on Instagram! Awesome!

I love you to pieces.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Right back at ya! ♥️

You nailed it!! I feel so seen!! Thank you for sharing

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I am so happy you feel seen!!! Absolutely!!! ♥️

You're amazing!!! thank you for sharing!❤❤

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hi Karen...I like Zentangle and have spent a lot of time making these designs. Zentangle is not the only art I make. I like some of your designs that I can steal: include small medium, large pen points....make art without guilt or hate.....

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

22 күн бұрын

Totally! Just gotta do your own thing and its okay to get inspired by others!

I thoroughly enjoyed this. I too have a similar relationship with zentangles. You got my brain popping! Thank you. 😊

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I am so glad you enjoyed it!!! ♥️

I call them Zen Doodles. I do my own thing. I really love this form of artwork and don't feel compelled to be a rule follower, because that would turn me off completely! Most of the time, I do an outline of the subject and start filling it with whatever "tangle" trips my trigger. :D

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Love that you've found you're groove with them!

Zentangle, despite having an established method, isn’t rigid, though. Zentangle mantra is “No Mistakes” and is always open to doing it our own way. The Zentangle community loves to see variations, too. 💜

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I think you are right! Unfortunately I’ve experienced some of the negative side of the community which sparked the idea for this video! All for the “no mistakes” mantra and welcoming all into the Zentangle world! 😁

I love what you’ve created here!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yay! Thank you!

What a great lesson for the zen tangle control freaks. Thanks

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

26 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Oh my lord!!! This makes so much sense!! 🤦🏼‍♀️ Thank you 👍🥰🌟

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You are so welcome friend! I'm so glad you found it helpful!

That is so awesome Karen!!❤❤❤❤

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yay! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!

I love it! So fun.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yay! So glad you enjoyed it!

I love how you elevated the Art!!😊

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

This is so flipping cool!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

9 күн бұрын

Thanks!! I am glad you enjoyed it!

Loved this ALOT!! THANKS!💥🥰

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You are so welcome! 😁

Thank you for this video! Great tips❤

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

Thank! I enjoyed your video.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You are so welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!

That is what I have done. Love it. Do my own thing.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

As you should friend!!!

I have missed you I M happy to watch and see ....I need to get rid of some anxiety This comes at a perfect time..thank you blessing

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I am so glad this comes at a great time for you! Enjoy my friend!

Most Excellent!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks! Awesome video 😀

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Love your work. I zentangle/neurograph in a similar way but haven’t varied the line width as much although I do it to separate sections. Your art reminds me of the Fifties.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you for this video. I thought when I watched the topic here on KZread, they were so serious with disclaimers. You cleared that up. Thank you. I have had the thought that I could make my own line drawing that is a picture, and then instead of coloring it in, I could use the elements of this method. I would have my own version of art.😃💐💐💚💚💚

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! You should make every piece your own! :)

Enjoyed your video and tips - which I've seen similar thoughts from artists of many mediums - and I wholly subscribe to. "You do you". Sometimes it's hard as fledgling artists to not "follow the rules" whether in tangling or watercolor painting, etc. I've always found it a bit odd that people are willing to spend so much money to learn to make specific doodles when I feel like patterns and mark making are sort of a open access idea. I think the one thing Zentangle has done is elevate the art of doodling and the appreciation of patterns in art. I know I look at it very differently now after years of doodling - sometimes following a Zentangle specific pattern and most times, making my own based on some pattern seen somewhere. It's all good. It's a good reminder to "give yourself permission" to make art that is fun for me; I'll take that to heart!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yes girl!! You nailed it!!!

That was fun😊👍

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

So glad you enjoyed it!

thats a VERY COOL abstract non-art piece you made

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

lol thank you 😂

I do so agree with this. I do love zentangle but some people take the rules waaayyy too seriously.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yes, right?! It makes me a little uncomfortable!!

@maureenstott2107

Ай бұрын

I am just curious… what rules does Zentangle teach?

@Tranquility32

Ай бұрын

@@maureenstott2107Hi. It’s not rules, rather a method to follow. Their tangles have names and illustrated steps to draw them. The rest is up to us, to draw, shade, highlight, blend and merge, etc. It’s so freeing, to me anyway, and I’m no artist. I have never once seen anyone in the Zentangle community criticize or put down anyone’s drawing or effort at trying a tangle. This video was recommended to me for some reason. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Have you see Zentangle's projects which are done in big rolls of paper? They propose working on a larger scale. I follow them and they have never come across to me as a restrictive bunch. That said, I like your end product too😊

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I’ll have to check out that topic in more detail!

@Tranquility32

Ай бұрын

Project pack 23 is gorgeous and so much fun! The translucenZ tiles are also a wonderful addition, in my humble opinion, enabling us to work on both sides. Fun to see how that looks as one turns the tile over.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Thank you for this video. I needed to hear this. My brain has trouble thinking of designs. You have inspired me with your lines and templates idea. I will see if the 6 tips help because I want to like doodling but zentangle puts pressure on me to follow rules. Art should NOT be about strict rules, it should be relaxing and freeing.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

100% agree my friend! Hope the tips help! ♥️

@deborahraaen3059

Ай бұрын

There are no rules in Zentangle. There are only guidelines that you can follow or not. It’s your art and you can do with it whatever you like. The guidelines of eg. corner dots, border, string and tangle stepouts are all there to help people that don’t know where to start get going with creating a piece of art. The small size of the tiles are so it can be finished in a short space of time and so it is overcomely. No one says you can’t draw bigger. In fact in their last Project pack on YT they tangled on a huge piece of paper. It is however not easy to turn a big piece so for beginners the smaller tiles can be best.

Love your teaching style…miss t teaching, health got in the way. Hugs sweetie.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I’m so happy to hear my teaching style resonates with you! So happy you are here!

I'm new to you and zen Tangling..i agree with you about the definition of "tangles". My husband's doodles sold in museums in Seattle! Ok.. what kind of white paint do you use to POP JEWELS to make them look wet and shiny. I looked at your list of things you used in one of your jewel tutorials but i couldn't find the paint. Your white colored pencil was great too. That i found, just not the paint. I LOVE YOUR ENERGY and your personality and your whole VIBE!❤

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

25 күн бұрын

You are so kind!!! Thank you for sharing! And yes, I think you may be mentioning the copic opaque white! I use it for EVERYTHING! Here is my affiliate link to that! amzn.to/3GRLdSQ

I had such a good time I subscribed to your KZread channel.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!! You may enjoy these other zen drawings too while you're here! kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIeexJWtopPJcZM.html

Your work here reminds me of my favorite Abstract german expression Artist Vassily Kandinski. He is awesome.😊

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Oh thank you!!!

Again another great video. What is the best paper to do it on please? Have started to really like Zentangling.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

17 күн бұрын

Great question! I really enjoy working with Bristol and toned paper for drawing projects!

@lyndamichelleduggan8513

16 күн бұрын

@@KarenCampbellDRAWS Thank you .

I started tangling after the death of my son (almost 10 years ago now) but my fist one was 12" x 12". To me it gave me more to do and i didn't have loads of tiny squares that i then had to store. I don't follow the other rules either, i use rulers, compass, paints, coloured pencils etc. I joined a few groups and posted my pictures but never let on how big they were unless asked 😂😂😂. Can't stand the Zentangle police, they really grind my gears, just do you and always remember, nobody owns a bloody pattern.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yes! Do what is right for you and that’s all that matters! How important art can be in times of grief! So glad to hear it helped you. Sending hugs!

I purchased a Zentangle starter kit 11 years ago and made 3 tiles (like a paper coaster) and stopped because it didn’t appeal to me. Last week I came across the box and created one more tile. I’m going to give it another try after this video using your tips.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I hope you end up enjoying it! Would love to see how it goes in the Facebook group!

I love working really small and tiny but I have never heard of this.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You gotta do what feels best for you!!

I have only recently discovered zentangle and am attracted by it. I am with you about the strict licensed teacher stuff etc, but I also feel that what you are doing in this video isn't really what zentangle is about. By using the templates not only in setting up your base but also during making the actual doodles, you must be unable to get in to any sort of 'zen flow'. I haven't learned that much about the 'official zentangle' yet, but I do know a little bit about meditation. And repetitive, 'boring' stuff is actually essential about it. The idea is to get lost, almost hypnotized, in the doodling. Now I can completely understand that this may not be for you, but what you are making in this video, IMO, is a drawing, art, but not 'meditation' (zen). I agree that it is easy to feel restricted by the official zentangle stuff, and personally I already feel that I am not going to following all their rules (not going to buy expensive squares to start with!), and I will definitly have to find my own way of doing meditative doodles. Still, I like that you are adressing this love-hate thing!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

5 күн бұрын

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

TOTES INSPIRED! 💖

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

YAY!

Aaarrrghhh! I need those stencils! I've been looking for those exact same stencils and can't find them. I looked on your Amazon store but they weren't listed. Can you tell me where you got them?

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Oh the circle and ellipse templates? They are here in the Drawing Aids section! awesomeartschool.com/p/artsupplies

@sallycapotosto6927

Ай бұрын

@@KarenCampbellDRAWS Got 'em! Thank you thank you thank you! BTW - I do exactly the same thing with my zentangles. Although I generally include neurographics as well. Neuro is really soothing to me.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I will have to look into that!!

Where did you get your circle stencil from, please?

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Amazon! Here is my affiliate link! amzn.to/3QwtxAt

Liked and subbed im glad i found you

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I am so glad you enjoyed it!!!

what is the best paper for heavy acylics? Thank you

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Heavy weight watercolor paper - think 140 lbs or more!

@applesauceandhoney2407

Ай бұрын

@@KarenCampbellDRAWS thank you for helping me out. Than I assume 140 lbs is the best as well for mixed media as it needs to hold all the weight?

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

That's right!!!

Zentangle proper has too many rules! I can't be boxed in - but I can be inspired by ZENTANGLE designs... Doodling and anything u create is ART ( just saying ) KEEP CREATING 🎉🎉🎉

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yessssssss 🙌

I definitely have a love/hate thing with the zentangleness of it all! To me, branded and monetized doodling is disturbing; the prescriptiveness is irritating; there's no reason to work primarily in a square format; and I don't want to keep track of a million separate tiles. The extreme focus on the certification 🙄... It's doodling! But I get that it's all been thought out. Every part exists for a purpose. Some of what irritates me is specifically part of the routine and meditativeness of it all and work wonderfully for literally millions of people. But not me!!! Thanks for these great ideas and suggesting that we can give ourselves permission to forge our own paths. 😊

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I hear you friend!!! I am so glad you found these tips helpful!

@deborahraaen3059

Ай бұрын

We also have round, triangular and rectangular tiles. Tiles that are 5 x 5 inches and opus tiles that are the size of 9 square tiles put together. That’s 10.5 x 10.5 inches square. These are available to use if you wish to use the paper that they consider to be the best, but they always say to use what you have.

Love it. But then I always love Karen Campbell art. When did you sport the nose bling? Hug, deb d.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks girlfriend! It was a New Years activity! I am loving it! Thanks for watching!

what I hate is the fact those who do teach it emphasise the CZT as if it is a Ph.D when it isn’t even equal to a BA! I also hate how they say it doesn’t have to be perfect all the time and that there are no mistakes. Then go on to create something that Leonardo would have baulked at. They need to just calm down with their big headedness. I do what I like and I don’t call it zentangle I just call it drawing…there is no copyright on that!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

20 күн бұрын

I hear you!

I have always wondered if the zentangle people got a hold of my "meeting notes," applied a few rules, and called it "Zentangles."

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Perhaps haha!

Doodles I used to do.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

19 күн бұрын

Doodling is great!

LOL I hate those dang Bijou tangles. And it's pretty darn hard to frame a circle. How many circle frames have you found. So many things I hated about those dang project packs. Just goes to show, you can build a business out of any silly idea you have! Take the good and leave the rest! I printed the zentangles I just couldn't do and used them in collages and decoupaged them. I printed them and cut them up and used them in clay sculptures. Yeah, I love destroying them!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You made good use of them in the end!

Oh this is great! If you hate it don't do it!😂

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Haha!

Although I am agreeing with a lot you are saying, I must admit I have grown to appreciate it a lot more since I became more involved. And I hope you're not offended but what you made here is not Zentangle. Not good or bad, just different.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Oh yes! I’m sorry if you misunderstood my intentions. I wasn’t claiming to make this a zentangle (I’m not certified after all) just that it’s a fun gateway to more fun zen doodles!

@relax_sketch

29 күн бұрын

@@KarenCampbellDRAWS I’m not sure you’re not allowed to explain a tangle when you’re not a CZT. I was just responding to your artwork. It can be named all kinds of things but for me it needs tangles to come close to, for example, zentangle inspired art (zia).

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

29 күн бұрын

I appreciate your thoughts!

Call it UNzentangle lol or Karentangles. Thing is they can not copy right a doodle design just a method. It's only thirty 8 step method you can not teach without a license. I've been doing these designs since I was a kid, myself. I just call it tangling designing myself. The Roberts teach a very specific method. So many of the people can get very strict and elite that I get out of by it. Art should be your fun space, your open space. No rules, just go with your flow and have fun. Oh and I hear ya on small spaces. Lol I always draw bigger.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Yes!! We are on the same page!

Art is Art… No matter What… I Don’t Care what ‘the professionals’ say…….🙄

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Exactly!!!

SOS!!! 1st.. you are so funny! I'm a "love/ hater as well. Some of the Tangle-Tooters come off sounding a tiny bit arrogant about "their" tangles. I guess people invent those quirky little shapes, and they get to name them... that's cool, but don't get yer panties in a bundle if we don't say that name properly. It wasn't intentional.. I promise. Ok.. moving in to more important stuff. When I fill in spaces with black, no matter what size micro pen i use, it leaves white streaks where the ink doesn't seem to adhere! I watch tons of y'all filling in small empty Tangle spaces with black ink from micro pens with no problem. I always get tiny, empty streaks!. I've watched 100000 videos, and NOBODY has that issue or addresses that issue it or DOES happen to them. So... does it happen to you, and if NOT, why is it happening to me? Anybody in this comment section can answer if they know what I'm talking about. I KNOW I can't be the only "tangler" this happens to. Please, someone, help me. I'm so mad i don't get those dark, smooth, inky black spaces that I watch y'all make over and over, and you have NO STREAKS! please help!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

25 күн бұрын

Have you tried a different kind of paper? Hot press, cold press? May be something to experiment with!

@susanmartin3762

23 күн бұрын

@@KarenCampbellDRAWS Funny you should ask. I just loaded up on EVERY ITEM IN YOUR SUPPLY LIST! I got the Canson 140 lb. 7 "X 10" paper in grey tone AND white. I got the Copic opaque white AND 6 Prisma white pencils ( expensive Lil suckers!🤑) And..I already had my Sakura pigma fine liners.. your list confused me a Lil bit where you wrote "asst. Copics. Cheap Fineliners I don't recommend and Copic Opaque etc.etc..... Because there was no punctuation, ...like I showed back

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

22 күн бұрын

I am so glad you were able to figure it out! I am proud of you and excited to have you join! You may enjoy my Facebook group over Instagram! I have a fantastic community of all kinds of artists in there. Everyone is welcoming and so helpful! facebook.com/groups/awesomeartschool/

As a CZT, i just want to say that Zentangle does not own any shape or doodle. It's a meditated art form. The founders don't "own" anything other than their teaching method. No Zentangle police! Do your own thing! Zentangle taught me drawing techniques as well as their teaching method. But I love doodles of any kind!!!

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!!

Replay. Zentangle is lines and circles...doodles

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

It not just that tho…it’s a whole “thing”!! I wish it were just that simple! 😭

Ah Karen your doodle line noodles, zentangle design looks pretty art Deco to me.😊😊😊

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Oh right?! Maybe those Speakeasy Showgirls are sneaking their way into my drawings now too - I'm great with that! Hope your'e well Mary!!

The Zentangle people remind me of the Neurographic people. The only reason they'll tell you what you're doing isn't art is because they've both managed to monetize doodling and they want you to pay for things. Many years ago I got a book on Zentangling and the first few lessons were very familiar because I had CROCHETED them several times. Nothing is new anymore and I laugh openly at the people who want to come at other artists because they aren't doing "real" Zentangles or "real" Neurographica. I art however I want to art. 💗

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

You should totally be able to art however you want!!!

@maritimemystic

Ай бұрын

@@KarenCampbellDRAWS Yes, we all should! :)

If you just call it "tangling" and don't use the term "Z.e.n. tangling" their search engines have a lot more difficulty finding your posts.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I know. But just knowing the thats even a thing kills me 🙈 and I genuinely appreciate the reminder!! You’re right!!

I wonder if the zentangle police look like zentangles.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

😆

What in the world are Zentangles?😂 have I been under a rock? 😂😂

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I would do a deep google dive if you are brand new to it! But its the use of “tangles” with use of dots, lines, simple curves, S-curves and orbs.

True Zentangle is freehand and NEVER uses templets or rulers

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

26 күн бұрын

Cool! This isn’t zentangle, it’s just fun!

whybnot call it Zendoodle

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Definitely could! They are interconnected!

The thing that irritates me about Zentangles is their prescriptiveness. I think if you’re drawn (haha) to Zentangle because you want to quiet your mind, and because you need an established process to work from, that makes perfect sense to me, and fill your boots. But I’m the kind of person who hates following instructions, and would much rather “draw something pretty” (that tip resonated with me) on my own, rather than having the steps and processes dictated to me. So, while my doodles are full of Zentangle elements, I don’t believe that anyone can or should trademark combinations of lines or simple patterns. I honestly get very squidgy when people tell me that my art is Zentangle, because in my mind, it’s so much more than that. It comes from my own sense of composition and balance and expression of style. I’m not copying an originator of a pattern, I’m adapting an idea to use in my own way. And I’m resentful of the Zentangle police who seem to want to own something that is really just a simple pattern that has been used for eons in many forms of art across many cultures over time. I’ll probably be put in Zentangle jail for saying that, but so be it. So, while I can see the point of Zentangle from the Zen practice of quieting your mind while focusing on simple tasks, I really don’t like the cult-like adherence that it seems to require.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

100% feel the same and said way more eloquently than I ever could have!

Zentangle claims to be an artform. Art means (among other things) creating something new. Reproducing other people's patterns, how beautuful that can be, is craft, not art.

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Doodling us creative and original...zentanle is not.

I love doodling ! My favourite,because you don't have to think and no rules. The doodling just flows out of me on the paper . Very relaxing and therapeutic 😊. In the end ,something amazing materialise on paper. I call it magic 😊

@KarenCampbellDRAWS

Ай бұрын

I 100% agree! So freeing!