Has this controversial remaster finally been fixed?..
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When The Outer World's Spacer's Choice Edition remaster got released in early 2023, it's performance wasn't very good and this was reflected in the reviews. The original was one of my favourite games but I never bought this because of the negativity surrounding it.
Almost half a year later however and things have definitely been improved, so much so that I can now recommend it, especially if you have a mid-range or high end gaming PC.
Thanks for watching :)
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Re-evaluation of patched games is really something that needs to happen more often. Thanks for the video.
@theonefrancis696
10 ай бұрын
Agree. I'm tired of finding old reviews that are thrown out at launch and never revised despite numerous patches that improve the experience.
@redwallfan123
7 ай бұрын
@theonefrancis696 but we should also make sure this isn't a standard. Devs shouldn't do the fix it later habit
@przemysawbrzeczyszczykiewi1211
6 ай бұрын
It's sad that it's needed since devs are just cranking out shitty performance and bug ridden games
@chakko007
6 ай бұрын
@@theonefrancis696 I think he meant the re-evaluation in form of videos.
Important to know Spacer's choice edition was made by a different company than the original game, so i think it's likely that they didn't have much experience with the game, which is why it was released so borked.
@CaptainKenway
11 ай бұрын
Virtuos, specifically. A studio with a mixed track record at best when it comes to ports and remasters. They were responsible for the complete mess that was Horizon: Zero Dawn's PC port, which Guerilla had to step in and fix. Also the Final Fantasy X remaster with the hideous new character faces. Their Switch ports seem to have been mostly well-received at least. They're also working on the Metal Gear Solid 3 remake, so I'm not holding my breath for that.
@Gatorade69
11 ай бұрын
@@CaptainKenwayAhh. Leave it to Konami to get devs with crappy track records to make your new games in a long existing beloved franchise. Already didn't trust Bloober with the Silent Hill 2 remake.
@V3ntilator
10 ай бұрын
@@Gatorade69 I think Sony hired Iron Galaxy for TLOU PC port. IG had mixed results over the years. They probably hire the cheapest companies for ports.
@Gatorade69
10 ай бұрын
@@V3ntilator You are correct. Funny thing is nobody complained about the Uncharted 4 port... Which was also done by Iron Galaxy, or so I have been told. I wonder who did the Spider-Man and GoW ports ? They did a good enough job.
@jfells4838
10 ай бұрын
@@Gatorade69i believe the company nixxes software did gow and Spider-Man and they are known for making good ports.. it’s interesting that Sony doesn’t hire them to do all of their ports. Also side note but didn’t iron galaxy also do the pc port of Batman Arkham knight? I remember that disaster at launch
You should do this with other games too, im always wondering if certain games like callisto protocol or higwarts legacy are fixed or not
@RandomGaminginHD
11 ай бұрын
Will do!
@MacTavish9619
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, this would be amazing. I can't find any video about forspoken. I know this game is just a joke but i didn';t heard anything about fixing this game.
@thajazzzprovidaaa26
11 ай бұрын
I just played the Callisto protocol and beat it and honestly I felt the game ran great, I had no major bugs or any stuttering issues, the game can feel jank due to its combat mechanic but other than that the game played great for me!
@elirantuil5003
11 ай бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHDmake sure you use a wider range of cpus and gpus. Even if we're sticking to 1080p, a 3060 ti or 4060 ti would give us a good idea on the upper achalon of 1080p cards.
@MrDimenice
11 ай бұрын
@@MacTavish9619digital foundary revisited it not so long ago, if my memory serves me right
Interesting video! I didn't know the Spacers Choice version had issues, I don't keep in the loop with a lot of things. I played the OG version on my old system with a 750ti and really enjoyed it.
There's this orangy color tone in the spacer's choice edition that feels kind of "off" to me. It's as if the world is a bit too colorful, to the extent of having strayed away from realism. Like adding a little bit too much salt into your food, or something like that.
@SeanUCF
Ай бұрын
I think it looks better. It shows the rings on the far away planets and it gives a more realistic hue to areas where there is an active volcano and makes the world look more "alien".
@zanaros2606
Ай бұрын
@@SeanUCF I remember some parts of it do look better. But some of it looks just too overdone and non-realistic. I think overall it's not a perfectly done remaster...or at least according to the subjective preferences of lots of people. It might have been a mistake to them to outsource the entire remaster to a relatively unknown chinese studio, even if it's much cheaper in cost.
@SeanUCF
Ай бұрын
@@zanaros2606 Yeah it probably could have been done better, but I do like the new look. At the end of the day though it's mostly subjective.
Idk man the remaster looks like the OG version with a reshade preset turned on
My only experience with this is the version on the gamepass version on PC and I believe that is the original but it seemed to have really poor performance issues where the framerates would just tank for no reason and it seemed to be hit or miss for people on similar specs at times
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
11 ай бұрын
if you think the pc version is bad you should try the switch build, it's absolute soupy looking garbage, which runs sub 20 fps most of the time😂
@RiTchieKII
10 ай бұрын
@@KZread-Censorship-Policeyou’re on a switch mate not sure what else you expected.
The Outer Worlds was a nice game... Until it ended lol I felt like the ending came too sudden and the game was too short to make it memorable.
@raresmacovei8382
11 ай бұрын
That's what the 2 expansions are for then, I guess
@The123tactics
11 ай бұрын
Definitely it needed acouple more larger cities/space stations to go to. I think that would help a lot.
@pootispiker2866
11 ай бұрын
It was more linear than half-life 2. Super overrated for what it actually was imo
@The123tactics
11 ай бұрын
@@pootispiker2866 Def linear, played it once and was like okay decent and only played it again for the DLC. Which some of them were even better than the base game in some ways. It could have been a lot better for sure.
@jeanvaljean6433
11 ай бұрын
@@raresmacovei8382 theyre not enough,the expansions are completely unrelated
This is quite a little gem of a game, the original anyway, and also ranks among one of my favourites. Not sure I prefer the Spacer's Choice look over the original, as it it looks like they've cranked up colour saturation, but there isn't much else that stands out. Granted, watching your video at 1080p through KZread compression probably isn't the best way to evaluate texture quality. Something I've noticed is that simply because a game's textures might use more VRAM, this isn't 1:1 with quality, as TLOU demonstrated. It still amazes me that there are some older games whose textures sit comfortably inside a 4GB VRAM buffer, and manage to look better than more modern games that don't fit inside an 8 GB VRAM buffer. I supposed some of this comes down to the complacency that some studios have adopted when it comes to game optimisation. You've probably seen the industry reaction to Baldur's Gate, with competing developers saying that BG3 is anomaly in terms of quality and scope, and that we as gamers should not expect that level of quality and polish from other developers. Sadly, it look like The Outer World's SE has fallen prey to that thinking too. At least the original is still available, and the game is good enough on its own not to require more fancy graphics to sell it.
I've just started this game(SC version) on my trusty RX480 and I really like it! Probably best set to medium/low settings to get a smoother experience.
The comparison split-screens show how pointless this "remaster" was. More saturated colors and slightly brighter lighting, nothing a mod couldn't have accomplished. The recommended GPU goes from a 1060 for the original release to a 1080 ti/2070/6700 XT in the SC edition, and for WHAT? They should have just released a "GotY" edition with the bundled DLC and raised level cap and not bothered with nominal graphics upgrades that did nothing but tank performance. Ironic that a game which went so hard on skewering the excesses of capitalism pulled a money-grab like this.
@Wilted_Brainz
Ай бұрын
Not sure on the money grab? I got it free off of Epic. I am glad I looked it up though. If I would have installed this on my older rig, it would have been shit performance it seems? I have a 3060 12GB and 32 GB RAM with a Ryzen 5. This should play nice? Going to install it.
what would you recommend for the GTX 1060 6GB?
I understand why people like to make fun of TLOU as being an "unnecessary" remaster, but this one is genuinely completely unnecessary. The graphics look almost exactly the same, yet the framerates are cut completely in half, and the game was only 3 years old at the time of this remasters release. Apart from easy money for the publisher, what was the point?
I play this at the moment and only problem I have is in equipment UI dots of available mods are not refreshed when item is moved. That's it. Playing on 6600xt and medium 1080p, easily 60fps, all textures are there.
it's Free on the Epic launcher now
What about if I've got a series S? I'm trying to find some info on if the games issues have been fixed now spacers choice is on sale. But so far I'm struggling 😅 mostly jsut finding PC gaming /reviews. I was super excited it went onsale but now I'm quite reluctant appears still not worth it.
Thanks for the update. You've just reminded me to get the Spacers Choice edition (played the original a year or so ago and enjoyed it).
@TruFalco
11 ай бұрын
It was on Humble Choice last month along with some other solid additions. I had the OG and it was kinda cool getting Spacer's Choice edition though I do have the original and all the DLC. FINALLY Temtem was on Choice, and Yakuza 4.
@kalustaja2k937
6 ай бұрын
@@TruFalco For me it kinda sucks that i got the spacers edition on humble since i would prefer to play the original but i just can't convince myself to pay for it now that i have spacers edition
Ciao, this version is optimized on fiscal disc ps5?
I played the original on gamepass with a athlon ii x4 645 and a r7 370 with 14 gb of ram. It ran surprisingly well for a below min spec cpu and ok gpu but i ran into a decently large issue of that the blood puddles that are baked into the map just caused major fps issues if you were looking at it so you could be doing stuff and then the fps just dies because of that. luckily there weren't too many areas where it was an issue but it was still weird to me that a blood puddle could destroy the fps.
@TruFalco
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like something with how blood reflects light, I seem to remember it being quite shiny.
thanks for the revisit, does it have dlss as well or only fsr?
How does the outer worlds already have a remaster? it hasnt been that... im getting old.
@Razumen
6 ай бұрын
You're not old, it was only out for 3 years, no game needs a remaster that soon.
@albertomartinez714
4 ай бұрын
I think it was kind of right before the cutoff because the original came out in 2019, before the current gen consoles dropped. So it isn't entirely absurd to optimize it for the newer hardware.
@DeathcoreManiac
21 күн бұрын
@@Razumenit's 2024 bro the game came out in 2019
I had issues with this hard locking on jumping back and forth to menus, but only occasionally, picked it up cheap but quite enjoying it before starfield comes out.
Im confused is this the full game with dlc? .steam uk sell it for £49.99 but it's only £9.79 on cd keys
I played Assassin's Creed Unity a few months ago. Apparently it was a shitshow at launch in 2014, but now it looks and plays amazing. There is also a brand new mod for it called ACUFixes.
@WhosDnisify
11 ай бұрын
I still experienced crazy bugs at times but it was more playable. Though I'm still not a fan of that specific part. Happy that I experienced it tho at least 👍
@nichenetwork9817
3 ай бұрын
Not apparently lol it was shit and that’s interesting but it launched in a shit state
Thanks for bringing this up! I've also been putting playing it off and sort of forgot about it. Makes me wonder about games like Forspoken and Gotham Knights, you never see many if any videos where people go back to revisit busted games. At least not in my yt algorithm.
This is the game I didn't know I was CRAVING until I played it! Tim Cain and Obsidian earned my money.
Very good and informative Video, thank you! Any Updates about fixes?
with the last Nvidia driver update i was finaly able to keep a high 1440p on a 3070 on this version and i have alot of fun with the game even after the performance still feels weird after its no problem at all to run the normal version on 4k
I also found massively better stability on the SCE. I honestly prefer it to the original, in its current state.
Got Spacer's Choice from last month's humble bundle. I don't have many hours in it but it runs fine from the few I've put in at 1440p with my 2080
Had no issues recently with a 5600xt + 3600. I used FSR + high settings, smooth 60 fps the whole time.
I have a Ryzen 5 5600X and an RX6700 MECH X2 GPU, with 2x16gb DDR4 3,700Hz RAM. Would this play okay on my PC? I really just don't know how good or bad my specs are. I know they aren't the best, but I also don't know what they are capable of. But I do know they're at keast decent. I just tend to stick to indiengames woth my PC is all and use my PS5 for larger games, as they're cheao to get second hand. I've never properly tested my PC.
Does it not have dlss?
so ..is it somthing i can play or should i stay away from it?
i didnt even know it was a remaster, I just thought it was a deluxe edition
I didn't realize you could put your gun away for the first hour either.
Thanks for doing this, was wondering how it is now.
I love this game (the OG version) and never had too many issues with it imho. While it is a little demanding, it’s a beautiful looking game and worth a play!
I just bought the remaster for 10€ on mmoga, while the original costs almost three times as much! I’ll look forward to playing it for the first time tonight and on the weekend :) Thank you very much for your video it helped me with th purchase!
I've been playing it on a Ryzen 5500, on a gen 1 B350 mobo( pcie 3.0), with 32 gb ram and a RX 6600 @1080p. So far I'm 60-ish hours in and it runs great, enjoying it so far. I had a weird bug where I had to dismiss S.A.M. because somehow armor had got in his armor slots and it made the game crash while on the ship for more than 10 seconds. Despite losing my robot it's still a great game. It honestly feels more like Fallout in space than Starfield. I didn't even know the game had problems before, just started playing last week. I haven't had any stuttering at all, although the first time I loaded the game up, it took almost a minute to build shaders and seemed like it had crashed until it just ran fine and never did it again.
I remember this playing really well on my 1650 laptop a couple years ago.
Going back to all the remasters or just games that were broken on launch to check out modern stability would certainly be interesting. I feel like not enough creators do that so it's hard to keep up with how they're performing. They pump out their original review and just dust their hands of it. You would be doing society a favor lmao
been playing to buy and get the expansions on steam because I only had base game on epic. This seemed like the better buy but there was the problems with it, but then humble bundle game it to me. was still worried about giving it a shot, now I will! thx!
Why don’t you use windows 11? Any particular reason? Love your videos btw
It definitely runs better than it did when it came out Even though I've never been able to be fully captivated by an RPG, this one... Man, every time my mental state told me I should delete it because I didn't feel like playing it anymore, I ended up getting it again the next day. Did that until I finished both the entire story and the DLCs. Doing a Board playthrough this time as I didn't even know that was possible! I thought you'd just game-over after talking to Udom and uh... 'giving him what he wants', to avoid spoilers. Sad I won't get to see Carmen Imagawa in this playthrough though, as she's one of my favorite NPCs :c Love the videos Steve :3 Edit: Regarding FSR, for some reason it doesn't... Do anything in my game? Using an RTX 3070, whether I had it set to performance or quality, it didn't do anything visually or frame-wise, it ran the exact same. Strange. :c
@2hotflavored666
11 ай бұрын
You don't need FSR with a 3070 though?
@lukasgroot
11 ай бұрын
For quality made this playable (60 fps) for me on trx3060 at 1440p mostly high settings.
@InsanityPrevails
11 ай бұрын
@@2hotflavored666 Well, yeah, but with most stuff at Medium I get between 90 and 120, I wanted to hit that 144 sweet spot haha Can probably only hit that in the original release I suppose :)
@2hotflavored666
11 ай бұрын
@@InsanityPrevails Fair enough :p
@trashsombra4411
11 ай бұрын
To be honest way too much hype for the game played on game pass it was ok
why do the clouds look like they are following the head bob at 2:00 mark???
@jm8080ful
11 ай бұрын
Because this "remaster" is what the GTA Trilogy - Definitive Edition is to the original GTA trilogy. Want a better experience? play the original!
@firstnamelastname-oy7es
11 ай бұрын
KZread video encoding, most likely. Since the clouds in the video change so little from frame to frame, youtube compression just keeps those parts of the image the same from frame to frame.
Love the uploads man. I've watched most of them the second they've been uploaded.
I kove how vibrant the colors look on the remaster.
hello epic gamers
Hey can you test more than 2-3 games on gt 730 gddr5 but not cyberpunk or rdr 2 because I know that these games are very much demanding
I very much enjoyed the game when it first released, but my weak i3 processor was already getting low fps in the big city area, I havent even tried to touch this just given the poor word of mouth about performence, thanks for the update!
Bought this on sale days ago for less than 10 bucks. Runs quite well so far. Not a fan on some of the changes they made like the color grading which are too saturated.
Epic Games (Canada, if it matters, since I don't recall it being offered to us for free before) is promoting it as next weeks "free game of the week" for beginning of April 2024. The upgraded, Spacer's Choice Edition, with the DLC included. I hope that's true, I'll grab it and take it off my Steam wishlist (were it's on *sale* for $70). I say "hope" because Epic has teased a free upcoming game that ended up disappearing (original Fallout trilogy, last month)... 😖
Didn't the original come out just a few years ago? Isn't it Abit early for a remaster?
I just got a copy of this today, never seen it before, am looking forward to playing it now, looks like it will be perfectly fine on a GTX 1060, Ryzen 7 set up, happy days :)
@RandomGaminginHD
11 ай бұрын
Yeah will run great. Have fun :)
@Ezio999Auditore
2 ай бұрын
Gtx 1060 enough? How’d it run bro?
The spacer's choice is made by a different group, and runs significantly worse. Seems like original would be the way to go, and you could probably use RTGI presets to make the game look prettier with less of a framerate hit than spacer's.
Because of the "release now, fix later" trend I don't feel bad about not getting the latest games at launch. Let other's beta test the game for me and I'll buy it some six months later. xD
@Hysteria98
4 ай бұрын
If publishers are too cheap to get decent developers to do the work, then they don't ever deserve a purchase, plain and simple. It's every last nickle and dime for them and they don't ever care who they screw over to get it. Pirate all of it.
Wow “random”… you blew up in subscribers, I’ve been watching your content I guess a little over a year I Remb at least being around 60k or so so congrats to you!
@RandomGaminginHD
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sticking around!
My game is having texture issues not loading properly even with rtx3050
@weirdochristoffel5285
3 ай бұрын
same
Did it improve on consoles?
What about the RX580?
lmao its now free in epic games store
@Oparmy069
7 ай бұрын
The game looks good isn't it??
@standuser69
6 ай бұрын
@@Oparmy069 Tbh yeah it looks really great
I hadn’t even heard of this remaster.
I didn't know this was a remaster, I thought it was just a GOTY-like bundle that included the dlc
Another thing to consider is the first version runs on win 7 64 bit and up, and the remake only runs on win 10 64 bit and up. So if you have an older OS like win 7, win 8, or win 8.1, you can only play the original.
@tyre1337
11 ай бұрын
i have a friend who still uses windows 7, optical drives, refuses to upgrade to an SSD or put deodorant
Ngl the OG looks better overall, I like the atmosphere.
@RandomGaminginHD
11 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s held up really well. Unique art style but I really like it :)
wait what? a remaster after just 3 years??? that seems... early
@SuperCer054Real
11 ай бұрын
Unusual really for a remaster so soon…
this just feels like it should be a free update
Didnt realize it was its own thing, just assumed it was the main game and the dlc in a bundle. With no changes to the original game/dlc.
i didnt even know that a remaster exist
The Spacers Choice was in a Humble Bundle recently. Ive not tried it yet but its a shame the original wasnt included, would rather try that version on my 1070.
@RandomGaminginHD
11 ай бұрын
Yeah the 1070 should do pretty well with this one too :)
@cheiften98
10 ай бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD I didnt try the remake yet but did get the original in a new humble bundle. been enjoying it at 60-90 fps maxed out settings. a proper rpg.
Until this video I didn’t know there was a remaster. I thought the spacer choise edition ist the normal game with all dlcs like. Nice to have this now on epic.
Well done very informative
April 2024, I'm using a gtx1650 and this bug still happens
This game is crunchy on a 2070 super (& 5900x w 16gb) goes from 80 fps to 10 fps for seemingly no reason.
Huh, i had no clue Spacers Choice was a remaster i thought it was just the game plus dlc
Should we consider adding the DXVK in this game ? Really hope you re-open that topic. Cheers.
@Dregomz02
11 ай бұрын
Don't use DXVK we have much superior DXVK-gplasync which removes all stutters since it creates cache in a background. I think he could make entire long ass video about that amazing thing it let me play at 4k/100+fps in Resident Evil Revelations 2 with no stutters while before i was stuttering and dropping frames even at 1080p, in games like GTA IV, Amalur Re-reckoning (botched port it's only playable on dxvk), Guild Wars 2 it also helps a lot
@tourmaline07
11 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the original version of this game when I had my Vega 64 despite the Vega architecture not liking this game at all . Needed to run close to its max at over 300W to give 60fps at 1920x1200 for most sections. This remaster was a cash grab - why remaster a game which is only 3 years old? Also Spacer's Choice edition is fitting if you follow the lore. I'd even argue nVidia seem to be working with Spacer's Choice to make their 40 series cards ;) fake fps with dlss3 reminds me of their tricks with saltuna ;)
I loved the outer worlds when it came out I wish there was more with the theme of that game
Even in the game's original version my 12700kf 3070 rig would get absolutely choked in places, starting with the botanical gardens where it would drop to like 30-40 fps. There's some assets or effects that are just not optimized at all. My interest for the game kinda petered out as it just didn't feel like a quality game.
@raresmacovei8382
11 ай бұрын
That's just UE4 DX11 multithreading for you. If you ran the game in DX12, it would've held up the fps way better.
The new version literally cut the fps of the 6500 in half 💀
Never even knew it got a remaster
I’m playing spacers choice at 4k with the DLSS mod. Runs super smooth. RTX 3090.
my settings are on ultra and ıve got 2060 ti but your video low settings looks much bette than my game wtf
As of September, it's beautiful. I love it.
Wow. I didn’t even understand what game you were talking about because it looks so different. I played it on the PS4 and it was super dark. And while I finished it, the story didn’t do anything for me. It was a bit like Fallout in space, but without the charm. And it was hard to pinpoint why I didn’t like it, as it had it all.
Pretty fun game but idk the "upgrade" doesnt really look like much of one. Also i played the original on a GTX 1050 and it ran like a champ. I have a new card now but having an actually nice running game on a budget card like that was nice. Tim Cain still makes good games dude!
I'm really not a fan of these remasters that come out so quickly after the launch of the game. theres no major improvements and a lot of the times it just pushes the system requirements higher for no good reason.
@RandomGaminginHD
11 ай бұрын
Yeah to me a remaster makes sense after about a decade
I didn’t even realize TOW had been remastered, feels only yesterday the original released.
I’m on the fence about buying this. I got the original version for $12 but the load times suck, even on PS5.
Use 3 gig more vram on 1080 max setting
I got it from Epic store for free, and was disappointed to find out it's some remaster. Considering that on my potato laptop I care about being able to run game at all, I guess it will just remain unused in my library
RandomGaminginHD : I've tried both of them, but I am continuing playing the original. The Spacers Choice Remastered just simply looks around 15 % worse because of the CARTOONY TEXTURES. It looses on the graphical fidelity realism and looks worse.
really cool stuff! :D :)
On PlayStation is called, The Outer Worlds: Board-Approved Bundle 😧
Releasing a game standalone to claim it's fixed is criminal. Leaving the original owners no better off.
I didn't know this game had a remaster.
I didn't even know they remastered it. I never get why companies remaster something new, it's never as noticeable like if they were to remaster an old PS3 game for example. The only real difference I noticed in the video is the remaster has brighter colours and slightly better shadows. That's not enough of a difference to warrent such a performance hit. FSR is nice, but I find FSR has more artifacts than DLSS. I hope AMD updates it at some point, I'm pretty sure even intel's upscaler works better than FSR.
@callmepsycho3132
7 ай бұрын
Imo games from 2019 should get ps5 upgrades. Look at RE2 remake for example. Shit, RE7 was in 2017 and the ps5 upgrade is fire
I think the OG would run more smoothly with a frame cap.
I'm actually playing this game right now and it's fun and i enjoy it so much. No performance problem while playing like lags, error, etc. The gameplay also nice, with some jokes between the conversation, etc.. Bcs i really don't know the Original Version, i played straight to *Spacer Choice* .. one thing i really had in mind, *Supernova* difficulty are really hard for me or is it me just noobs 😂
I remember playing the OG on ps4 slim and run poorly on some places amd run amazing on other so it was not stable some time