200 billion lost to corruption a year and while most live in poverty the ANC go around having 600k lunches.

@MasBuzo-zj6zt

3 ай бұрын

200 billion lost to Fraudster Markus Jooste…..

@Kimo22425

3 ай бұрын

Can you please site the source of your 200 billion number?.

@MasBuzo-zj6zt

3 ай бұрын

200+ billion looted by Afrikaner looter Markus Joste…. The biggest heist in South African history!

@user-mw8gh6zn5t

3 ай бұрын

​@@Kimo22425 it's on show on a daily basis

@Kimo22425

3 ай бұрын

@@user-mw8gh6zn5t that’s not a source. Admit that you just made up the number, else I’ll assume you are a bot.

They were handed some of the best infrastructure and one of the best economies in all of Africa, and ran it straight into the ground

@esahm373

3 ай бұрын

Not quite right! When "they" took over from the fascist NP party, the existing infrastructure did only cater to a small minority of the population, while excluding most South Africans. So it has been deliberately designed to provide first world amenities to thr alien minority, while leaving the indigenous majority disenfranchised. What the ANC has failed to do is to completely reverse this initial situation.

@christianmathew398

3 ай бұрын

@AlbertBormant-They were lucky to come out of a apartheid,white fragility system as strong and resistant as the SA people did.

@sthembisocaleni7872

3 ай бұрын

The country was not all fine and dandy for native people. Try to put yourself in their shoes for a moment. Understand that they had no electricity, water and education to become a professional e.g. in engineering, finance, agriculture, medicine. They were paid very poorly (used as cheap labour). Everyday you are harassed and beaten by the police, you have no human rights. No land to even build a structure for yourself, people would stay in a small 2 room house , imagine 15 people in such a house. No proper sanitation (toilets) or sewage structure in your community. But in the white community you have everything. Just try be a human being for once, and put yourself in the shoes of a native person, who were forcefully removed from their homes where they built some wealth for themselves, and their whole generation was forced start from nothing.

@FrothingFoulness

3 ай бұрын

@@christianmathew398you’re right, the system was too fragile for black people to operate properly

@KiteMusic-sm1bg

3 ай бұрын

​@@christianmathew398and 30 years later south Africa still has apartheid

Ramaphosa is a complete failure

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

3 ай бұрын

The rot started in 2007 plk conference

@nomalungelongcete5875

3 ай бұрын

Yhooo 😮😮😮😮

@VeeShenge

3 ай бұрын

Every single ANC President failed.

@VeeShenge

3 ай бұрын

Every single ANC President failed.

@ETHANTHE772

3 ай бұрын

Nah Zuma didn’t fail

It’s interesting that Al-Jazeera characterized EFF as the main opposition and DA as the other opposition.

@michaelgilewicz5918

3 ай бұрын

It means they are not paying close attention

@NnamdiNnake

3 ай бұрын

@@michaelgilewicz5918 Possibly. Or that they are trying to project what may come to pass. Either or any way, the characterization is wrong.

@nedor64

3 ай бұрын

AL-Jazeera is a revolutionary news agency they are always on the wrong side.

@user-mw8gh6zn5t

3 ай бұрын

Al Jazeera is very pro libralistic communist channel and just like the West uneducated in Africa ...no wonder South Africa had aparteid

@jonye7511

3 ай бұрын

AJ doesn't care about accuracy except its main goal which is cover the Gazans.

*ANC live in wealth and riches while us the South Africans cannot even buy bread*

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

3 ай бұрын

That's what they want. They want black people to live in poverty and lawlessness.

@nomalungelongcete5875

3 ай бұрын

And it's sad 😢😢😢😢😢😢

@sladetuner8661

3 ай бұрын

African National Communist

@user-mw8gh6zn5t

3 ай бұрын

Yes us South African Taxpayers are the cANCer Regime s personal piggy bank

FAMILY PLANNING in South Africa...anyone??? Poor people are having too many children & then want to demand, what smaller families have!!! With ❤ from 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

"Has South Africa's ANC failed to live up to its promises?" Yes, and they will vote for the ANC AGAIN!

@user-pm6xm1ww6x

3 ай бұрын

There only other option is for them to vote EFF, and you know you dont want that

@kobusvanstaden3747

3 ай бұрын

Vote ANC and eat KFC

Al-Jazeera's choice to speak on the policy plans of the EFF vs giving John Steenhuisen (The white guy) the platform to state his own policy plans is problematic to say the least.

@karabompedi

3 ай бұрын

Steehuisen most probably has news channels that will prefer his opinion over the EFF's. My point: It's the way of the world, bro.

@dannyarcher6370

2 ай бұрын

EFf has policy plans?

@Speeed_Freee

2 ай бұрын

why is his color relevant

@GabulaMleni

2 ай бұрын

@@Speeed_Freee In South Africa, colour is always relevant.

@GabulaMleni

2 ай бұрын

@@dannyarcher6370 You dumbass.

In a democracy, it is rather rare to stay in power for 30 years ! So changing the government once in a while is good and expected (hopefully for a decent alternative, which is not always obvious or available). - I am Canadian, just stating the obvious

@damien5859

3 ай бұрын

The problem in SA is that no other political party have enough members to run the country. This means we would either get a coalition of smaller parties which do not represent the peoples ideology or we stick with the ANC that steal everything in the name of we need to eat too. Damned if you do and Damned if you don't.

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

3 ай бұрын

Not in Africa. Africans adore oppression

@jonye7511

3 ай бұрын

The ANC has effectively become complacent as SA became a one party state. They might not hand over power when they lose the election as is typical of other African countries.

@damien5859

3 ай бұрын

in Africa most freedom front movements last on average 40 years.

William Gumede talks a lot of sense

South africa is beautiful country we have to look after it we are taking things for granted before it too late we must build together our economic work together work hard stop corruption I know we can do it viva South Africa

This report is lopsided and doesn't drill down far enough to the reality. Politicians and political party rhetoric is not the answer. The government has failed, it's that simple.

It's funny cause there are some people still voting for ANC . Honestly i want them out completely.

Its sad to see what happening down there in Southern Africa, first Zimbabwe and now SA definitely next in line. 2 beautiful nations destroyed by corruption

@jonye7511

3 ай бұрын

And by implementing socialist policies by like the National democratic revolution while pretending to be capitalist to ensure the elite remains wealthy.

Thank you, William Gumede. You are a wise person. Thank you, Al Jezeerah for hosting this debate.

The ANC has accomplished nothing in South Africa. They did not build anything of value/benefit because the Apartheid regime built all the major entities, the ANC simply inherited what was already there, they have mismanaged and looted every government parastatal. Since the ANC came into power every metric that measures human development has regressed in South Africa.

@user-mw8gh6zn5t

3 ай бұрын

The cANCer Regimes major achievement with all fanfare celebrate the grand opening of pit toilets

Am sure whatMelanie means when she says "..free education.." am at a university right now, there's nothing free here, students go hungry since January with no allowances some with no funding, signing admission of debts to register as to how they get to school, do they have books etc nobody cares, is that free education? If so what is education free or not, what is it?

Short answer: yes they failed dismally Long answer : we are living in the consequences of the deliberate poor decisions of politicians. Our problems are complex, we do not lack the capacity to solve them, we lack the leadership to act in integrity and honesty to efficiently solve them -a south African

The late Mandela appeared to have been pushed out by a younger leadership breed that was itching to implement its own economic vision, which happens to be the outcome of the today economic story". The late De Klerk also did not stay around for too long as his vision appeared to have not fitted well with the new leadership after the late Mandela".

It's confirmed!! South African's National IQ test will be written on 29 May.

@user-mw8gh6zn5t

3 ай бұрын

It will show with the amount of free t shirts caps and food parcels handed out including an old Gogo hearing the rattle of keys to her new RDP house built by a Tenderpreneer

MULTI CHARTER PARTY is the FUTURE...to save US.......In God we Trust

I respect Aljazeera so much high quality journalism,covering even African important stories without being bias like BBC

High Youth Unemployment rate crime will increase in South Africa

@nomalungelongcete5875

3 ай бұрын

Ibuhlungu va 😢😢😢😢😢😢

This was a good panel. And honestly I hope to see all three more.

Yes.

Spend less time on vacation at ICJ might help 😂😂😂!

@nomalungelongcete5875

3 ай бұрын

And focus more on our country 😢

Love that all these speakers are in Cape Town 😂 (everyone’s in Cape Town now!)

Unemployment rate is not 30% It is above 60%

10 minutes in and I was already bored... these panelists/guests are trying so hard to paint the ANC government in good light, kudus to the presenter/host for asking the right questions and impartiality...

I thought the end if apartheid solved all these problems, things are actually worse than ever.

Ofcause you will go infront of the courts if you belong to the wrong faction of the ANC, lets not even fool ourselves there that the judiciary is indepenďent.

Time for the anc to take notice - the rest of the world does not make an issue of aparthds excuses anymore, they want answers for a demolished 1 st world economy. Avoiding the failed state in deep political trouble + ignoring the depth of SAs international debt will not vanish in the hot African sun all by itself. Time to show some courage + man up or make space for ppl who can. .

Andries Treunuict was correct in his pridictions in 1990 about what would happen once the ANC took power

Yes

If the EFF wins, I would rather swim to Australia than live in this Godforsaken country

this poor lady has 2 things to be embarrassed about - 1) her surname and 2) that she enabled the destruction of the country by supporting the ANC. must be an awful thing to live with

@kobusvanstaden3747

3 ай бұрын

Both through choices of her own

The inequality, the lack of accountability, the corruption, the lack of service delivery, the vulnerability of the poor and the lack of a future for us youth What could’ve been Us South Africans settle for to little We truly are just run by a mafia

Without watching the segment, I can answer the question posed: Yes.

ANC HAS NO MORALS

@jonye7511

3 ай бұрын

And ironically they were supposed to save SA from the previous immoral regime. Thus it begs the question: which is the greater evil? The one who legislated his evil plans or the one who promises to liberate, uplift and save you but abused your trust by emptying the koffers and nearly destroys the economy instead?

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this apartheid system ..."

1000% and I'm not even South African. Just a regional observer.

The reason why Zacky is independent is because he doesn't sugarcoat, He doesn't shy away from accountability and honesty He's speaking not from his perspective only but from the shoes of majority

It wasn't a peaceful transition ,,,,,they killed Chris Hani. Thats why we are having this conversation

@PanAfricanist1963

3 ай бұрын

Chris a president stolen from our people.

@davidfield533

3 ай бұрын

Your own ANC had Hani killed !!

@firstcomment749

3 ай бұрын

It was indeed by no means a peaceful transition with lots of farmers murdered, spilling over onto the rest of the population, to the count of 27,000 murders, more rapes + other violent transgressions. So whose going to apologise for that? Ppl who cannot take responsibility for fixing a pothole? And ppl really still believe these immature politicians will better their lives?

@nomalungelongcete5875

3 ай бұрын

Mhmmmm 😢

@kobusvanstaden3747

3 ай бұрын

And how many blacks necklaced other blacks while being egged on by Winnie Mandela? And hiw many tens of thousands of Zulus and Xhosas killed each other?

Probably rhetorical😢😢😢😢

Very impartial reporting. Great story.

Short answer: Yes, yes they have.

30 years of indirect minority rule

During the Apartheid SA was an 1st world country...

@esahm373

3 ай бұрын

No, it wasn't. 1st world amenities were only accessible to a small percentage of foreign-descendant settlers (so-called "Boere"), while the overwhelming majority lived in circumstances much worse than even Stalinist East Bloc countries.

@mxolisimphago9842

3 ай бұрын

That was at the expense of the indigenous people .

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

3 ай бұрын

But now it is sh...... t hole

@SizweMhlongo-zm9sh

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-ww5qw8jd3b you are not a patriotic South African and be careful because your racist identity is showing. Your comment is not constructive!

@kobusvanstaden3747

3 ай бұрын

​@@esahm373 is that majority better off now? Why do we hear more and more black people saying they were better off under apartheid?

Not really. They never really promised anything

7:20 😂😂😂 this is an issue worldwide...just cut to the chase dude..

Politicans and diapers need to be changed every so often - and for the same reason....

I am not saying all this as a ANC supporter but rather as a South African who acknowledges the ANC as done some good in the past 30 years but with the current challenges today I admit they failed to solve unemployment, rising crime rate, loadshedding and other issues and agree that we need change in the upcoming elections All I'm saying is as a South African to appreciate the freedoms and rights brought by Nelson Mandela and ANC toady because things could have been worst if we're not for them

A man that sits on his hands can not feed himself. A man biting the hand that feeds him, will not be fed again. A man that chops down a tree for fire wood, will not have fruit form that tree tomorrow. There is no good tomorrow for South Africa.

@SizweMhlongo-zm9sh

3 ай бұрын

I can also provide a proverb which is a proudly South African value called Ubuntu "I am because we are" and as long as this value for dignity exists even while its being eroded by corruption and unequal distrubution of generational wealth there will always be hope for South Africa!

Is that even a question😂

Eff the winner

"we could not have a revolution" AHA! We found the problem.

ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS PANEL ARE TALKING PURE BULLSHIT

Truely I apprciate Al Jazeera's short but objective reporting of South Africa's democracy and the guest speakers constructive criticism of South Africa's current economic problems. They not only recognised the abhorent persisting legacy of the colonial and apartheid systems as contributive factors but the speakers discussed the possible solutions of coalition or change in government as a remedy to lack of political will and increasing corruption. If recognition and appropriate address is not given to South Africa's past then future solutions will not prevail to achieve a moraly just and equitable society for all South Africans!

You tell me okays

Why Aljazeera decided to show only the worst parts is surprising. Very deceiving and inaccurate. Most of SA towns are equal to Europe

Yeah, don't think anyone has hope anymore. Its a culture problem, not a race problem apparently.

I cant stand that Jabulani song....wonder why you chose it

ANC Juda of South Africa, come back and like here after yhe elections

So the media 🤔 🙄 and the watchdogs 🐕 🛷 🐶 🦮 🐕‍🦺 🐩 🐕 🛷 let the 🇿🇦 citizens down 😮😢😂

Ramaphosa must go to jail

@sladetuner8661

2 ай бұрын

Along with zuma

William Gumede is lying apartheid was replaced by an esthetically better looking apartheid.

Overall it was a nice interview what does my goat though is the 'defending' of the progress vis-a-vis apartheid and the rights gained. This can't be done since there were limited rights, effectively making the majority of people in the Republic second class citizens. The past South Africa was not one to think of a 'modern' state. That kind of thinking diminshes the expectations of the 'new citizens' expectation, e.g before no water, now I have water, yay! This way of thinking unfortunately comes from the older generation (who all lived under apartheid). The state is having trouble 'controlling' youth thought processes and expectations without nurturing them to take over with grace and that is the scariest part of this all.

Mister Hard work begets wealth !!

Move on already. they've had 30 years to get their act together. The ANC has failed it's own people.

Even though Apartheid has ended, the system of Apartheid is still active in South Africa. It’s gonna take serious constitutional reformation in order to completely end Apartheid in South Africa. Also the ANC is a very corrupt Government that needs to go.

@esk2k5

2 ай бұрын

correct...the apartheid system now being used to oppress white people definately needs to go

I think Cyril is trying. When Zuma was in charge that's where the problems came from

AJ Like stories Mine your own buniess and comment on the war in the middle east Check your problems first before u check ours

The Jews took Israel from the Arabs after the Arabs had lived there for a thousand years. Israel, like South Africa, is an apartheid state.” -- Hendrik Verwoerd (1901-1966)

We lost more before we where free.. And you expect the Anc to solve this in less the 30 years? Apartheid and the past has a big scar in our generation.

@jonye7511

3 ай бұрын

How is the ANC going to solve this if they took less than 30 years to destroy all government parastatals? How many years do you need for them to prove that they can't govern a country let alone keep order in their own party?

South Africa moved from a 1st World Country to a 3rd World Country within 30years.

@luyandzabavukiledlamini4693

3 ай бұрын

Who do you think benefitted most from the 1st world status you're crying? Definitely not the black population or my grandparents, so please keep your mouth shut

@elvinnybonjovi10

3 ай бұрын

What is it that make a country to be labelled a first world country ?

@williammcdaniel4888

3 ай бұрын

Apartheid made it a world-class country

@elvinnybonjovi10

3 ай бұрын

@@williammcdaniel4888 You're an idiot. Read to understand,not to reply.

@luyandzabavukiledlamini4693

3 ай бұрын

As a black South African I will tell you this once UYAHLANYA, translating you are "crazy 🤪

The people you interview no nothing about the real life of South Africa

Ofcourse Verwoerd will blame Zuma

ANC got SA to this point, and must be recognized and honored in South Africa's monumental struggle against, and defeat of, apartheid. However, this era requires the youth to take the baton to move the dial on the social injustices of South Africa forward.

This lady is not for South Africans seriously She's living in her own world

Very poor research and questions by the Presenter.

if the late Apartheid Era founder and South African Leader Hendrik Verwoerd where still alive be like:SEE I TOLD YOU ALL SOO!!!

Viva MK Viva MK Viva!!!!!!

I'm so disapointed in Ramaphosa. I encouraged everyone that I could influence to give him a chance.

All the guest are connected to the ANC

A lot of suger coating by the panelist’s

Our problem in SA is the ANC , we the youth of the country must vote out the corrupt ANC and put in the EFF as the alternative.

@karabompedi

3 ай бұрын

I agree with the first part. We need the ANC out. But as to who to install in power after that, now that's a difficult one. I guess that's the problem we all face as eligible voters.

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

3 ай бұрын

The problem is black

@mxolisimphago9842

3 ай бұрын

@@karabompedi That's true , the issue is a difficult one . However, many young South Africans have already made their voices heard that they are for the EFF.

@mxolisimphago9842

3 ай бұрын

@@user-ww5qw8jd3b How is Black a problem? Could you please elaborate.

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

3 ай бұрын

@@mxolisimphago9842 KZread will delete my reply

It is very very important to address the world's issues, but priority at the moment should be focused on Gaza

@louiseroderick9910

3 ай бұрын

WHY???? While millions upon millions of South Africans are starving every day, have no access to basic services, have an inept and corrupt police "service", 84 being murdered daily, a failed public health system, violence, need I continue? What is different to what is happening in Gaza when these comparisons are made? First take the log out your own eye...

@Kittyparcel

3 ай бұрын

@@louiseroderick9910 whos fault is that, millions are starving where and why? you cannot blame the gvnment for that, its the nation that are overpopulating the country, they cant afford to feed one child, yet they have 4 to 7 bbys? Do you give thet responsibilty to the gvnment?? People are getting child grants, per each child, individuals are getting SRD grants, if there weren't so many people just overpopulating, maybe the grants would have increased!!!

@Kittyparcel

3 ай бұрын

@@louiseroderick9910 you are stupid if you feel you can compare Gaza to South Africa, Gazan are being starved deliberately, where do you see South Africans being starved deliberately?????South Africans have access to every gvnment hospital , hospitals in Gaza have been destroyed completely, so dont compare, coz there is no comparison

@MaSwaziHlatshwayo-cs9ge

3 ай бұрын

@@Kittyparcel Please summarize, i couldn't read all of this BS

@Impiloiscam

3 ай бұрын

You hypocrite people are also dying in Sudan and no one is talking about it 🙄

The effects of the apartheid system is a giant weight on the neck of any S African gov’t. How do you breach the gap between the haves and have nots when generations of Black people were denied education and advancement for such a long time under the apartheid system?.

@damien5859

3 ай бұрын

Namibia showed us how we could achieve this goal but we decided to try B-BBEE it was worth a shot but its time to admit it has not changed the equality issue.

@Kimo22425

3 ай бұрын

@@damien5859 Namibia where the majority of the Black indigenes, descendants of the Nama and Herero people are still living in poverty with the White German descendants owning the majority of the land. That’s not something to brag about.

@louiseroderick9910

3 ай бұрын

Stop the looting of the coffers and use the money to uplift the people. Such an opportunity wasted because of rampant greed.

@charmainemoodley2414

3 ай бұрын

The SA govt just proved to the apartheid govt that they cannot govern a country. They have let down an entire society of black governess. They do however have a window of opportunity right now but, will they use it.

The only articulate guest there to a certain degree is Mr Zachmat!

This is a disappointing editorial. I expected better from Al Jazeera.

EFF ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

@jasonlee5953

3 ай бұрын

Enjoy poverty x

There is no place for [the Bantu] in the European community above the level of certain forms of labour ... What is the use of teaching the Bantu child mathematics when it cannot use it in practice? That is quite absurd. Education must train people in accordance with their opportunities in life, according to the sphere in which they live. -Hendrik Verwoerd (1901-1966)

🖤💚💛

Rama pee please FF

John steenhuisen is Not south African

@gigi-vx8sy

3 ай бұрын

He's South African He was born in South Africa

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

3 ай бұрын

@@gigi-vx8sy and we going to vote him to emancipate us from ANC

@nomalungelongcete5875

3 ай бұрын

Ohhhhhhhh 😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

ANC is not 🚫 failure 😢, it have it's short coming but since South Africa is still in revolutional phase . Enemy still at large and powerful as ever 😢

EFF is our only hope in South Africa.

The guy in the middle is a Wits university professor and editor of a newspaper, but cannot pronounce simple words such as THanks…. And legacy ( he says le-JE-cy). As a South African it’s so embarrassing to have people like this representing the blacks in the country. There are many more educated, highly skilled , and excellent communicators who never get an opportunity! Just terribly embarrassing!

@MasBuzo-zj6zt

3 ай бұрын

👉🥜🧠

@mashobanevusimuzikhumalo2415

3 ай бұрын

You should listen to the content and spend less time on least important things.

@MasBuzo-zj6zt

3 ай бұрын

@@mashobanevusimuzikhumalo2415 hence 🥜🧠

@reinemarais4392

3 ай бұрын

English is not his home language. Can you speak more than just English and Afrikaans? If not, he's a better person than you.

@louiseroderick9910

3 ай бұрын

Oh please. I am one of the world's pedants when it comes to the English language but seriously, give this man a break. He is a highly intelligent, well educated and respected academic. I certainly don't find him an embarrassment. I am actually more embarrassed by Melanie Verwoerd.

The great fall of the Anc will be a well celebrated one.Anc thought they could continue to take people for granted and trample over them, On 29 05 2024 the Anc was taught a lesson.Desmond Tutu Warned The Anc To Watchout. 😯🫢👍💯