I'm surprised Harvey didn't punch him. Imagine your mother told you as a child to keep a bad secret from your family, one that could wreck it. Then your brother does the exact same thing with his daughter. Then has the audacity to ask for your help without even being truthful. I would be livid

@ethrsag735

Жыл бұрын

Or when they were younger, when his brother blamed him for tearing their family apart for not keeping that secret. That was an actual example of victim-blaming since their mom forced him to keep her secrets, was told that if she cheated again that he wouldn't keep the secret anymore, then proceeded to bring the man she was cheating on their father with to their family dinner. Mike's arrival was a gift as he was the brother Harvey deserved.

@TheRisingMaster

Жыл бұрын

It's not exactly the same thing as cheating and gambling are quite different. But yeah, it's still quite terrible

@2EKgn16

Жыл бұрын

​@@ethrsag735 True. Marcus was weak in character and never once considered Harvey's feelings in the matter. Everything was about how he felt.

@Dhruvaluk

Жыл бұрын

Because it was not in script to punch him

@mayanksharma3651

Жыл бұрын

Ohhhh he waanted to, if my brother did something like that he's gonna get a few bones broken

Things like this actually make Harvey a sympathetic character

Literally the pain in his eyes when he says "hes my brother,what am i supposed to do?".....his tolerance is 👑

So Marcus rudely demands that Harvey should help him like Harvey owes him something, lies that he cheated (which their mother had done and it traumatized Harvey) and it turned out he gambled and made his daughter keep a secret (which their mother had also done and it also traumatized Harvey). The audacity.

Marcus doesnt deserve Harvey, Mike is his true brother

@Andre.K.

Жыл бұрын

It's goes a little deeper than that.

@maralonent6257

3 ай бұрын

Mike is more like his kid.

@sldarwin5615

2 ай бұрын

@@maralonent6257nah bro they have a way more older/younger brother vibe than a father/son vibe

I’d do anything to rewatch this as if I’ve never seen the show

@drv3973

Жыл бұрын

What a great compliment. I can't remember another protagonist in a TV show who was more charismatic.

@jaypritchett6846

Жыл бұрын

Amazon Prime My hubby and I have watched this twice and we’re probably gonna watch it again

@thedecayingking1494

Жыл бұрын

@@drv3973 House M.D. i think does

@keelieinwonderland

Жыл бұрын

Netflix

@dalvinpricev2910

Жыл бұрын

I'm doing that now starting from the beginning lol

R.I.P. Billy Miller. You're struggle with Depression has come to an end. You will be missed from so many shows....Suits, Young and the Restless, General Hospital, etc

@ronnana694

Ай бұрын

R.I.P.

After what we know about their mother and how Harvey feels about his mother, lying about the gambling and saying it was an affair was better than being honest and saying he relapsed??

@Jamer767

Жыл бұрын

He probably cheated too

@ExileAngelo

Жыл бұрын

​@Scott Hack there is no probably

RIP Billy Miller

RIP to his Brother who passed away last month for real

No wonder he threaten to beat Harvey in their father's funeral, he is just like his mother.

@RooKangaRoo

Жыл бұрын

You mean Marcus is like his Mother, right?

@raulbetancourt5795

Жыл бұрын

@@RooKangaRoo Yes.

@mlpvore8655

Жыл бұрын

he gambled that’s why , he didn’t cheat

@raulbetancourt5795

Жыл бұрын

@@mlpvore8655 And them he told his daughter to keep It as secret, pretty much the same their mother did.

R.I.P. Billy Miller

The right solution would have been to get someone else from the firm on the case.

You know Harvey's heart is in the right place when you see him rendering services to his family. From my own experience, family and friends have a bad habit of being arguably the most frustrating cases and the worst clients.

@jackbrian4929

Жыл бұрын

I mean his brother cheated which is one of his worst traumas

@daynechastant

Жыл бұрын

Because they'll resort to emotional blackmail ("You HAVE to help us BECAUSE FAAAAAAAAMILY!") and information-dieting ("I didn't think you needed to know this.") and gaslighting ("Outsiders don't have a right to know anything about our business.")

@Mark-ys4yw

11 ай бұрын

Imagine coming on to KZread and pretending you're a lawyer

@wattoucheng

11 ай бұрын

@@Mark-ys4yw Mike Ross did it. I can do it too Who hurt you baby?

@Mark-ys4yw

11 ай бұрын

@@wattoucheng Mike Ross went on KZread and pretended to be a lawyer? Missed that episode

I loved this show. And for people to say it's unrealistic is weird. It's entertainment. So it's ok to believe in superman , batman, wonderwoman, the flash, John Wick and so on. And one of my favorites, Perry Mason. Dude only lost once.

@2EKgn16

Жыл бұрын

It's as if people know the superhero movies are fantasy (from my observation they don't 😏) but expect legal and medical dramas to based in reality.

@MortalJustice

Жыл бұрын

@@2EKgn16 I think the biggest issue with the expectations of legal/medical shows to be realistic, is that people don't seem to understand that the law realistically is SO BORING to watch 9 times out of 10. Medicine doesn't have so much drama and is just a lot of talking and operating. The second they make a 'realistic' show, people will be bored by episode 2 😅

@areasmith

Жыл бұрын

I had read somewhere once that the show was to reflect Wall Street values and methods of business which I think the show does. I just started binge watching the show about a month ago. It's a bit of a bittersweet thing because I think the characters are great but there is so much back stabbing, constant loss/change of leadership, and so forth that I wish it was more of an episode to episode serial and less of a soap opera if that makes sense. I would think if this was a real law firm, it would have sunk under its own discord years ago. And I am a fan of comic books. :)

@justafanfave228

7 ай бұрын

@@2EKgn16If u expect legal and medical dramas to be based in reality then you are a fool.

@justafanfave228

7 ай бұрын

@@MortalJusticeExactly! And cases and settlements take years which these dramas cant portray. TV time has to be different.

Watched this video for 100 times. Harvey is my kind of person ❤

I was expecting. Harvey to go up there and represent his sister in law. When Marcus said he cheated

RIP Bill Miller

I only watched because of Billy Miller rip. I'm a fan of his since Y&R

REST IN PEACE 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️

Loved this episode

I have a brother. If he cheated there's no way I'd represent him in a custody battle.

@cgavin1

Жыл бұрын

@@shenanigansone8172 😳

@mayanksharma3651

Жыл бұрын

So you'd rather watch you niece and nephew grow without a father? Very moral of you

@justafanfave228

9 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t represent either but I would recommend another lawyer

@RedNinja0070

9 ай бұрын

​@@mayanksharma3651Spoken like a TRUE CHEATER

@scottmatheson3346

9 ай бұрын

​@@mayanksharma3651 better no father than a bad father, and you're assuming the kids won't get a stepfather

You have to draw the Line somewhere, even for family.

Rip Billy miller

Which episode?

I wish we had a series 2 as I know it would be a mega hit !!

@Dionysos_____Alters

6 ай бұрын

It will be ruined because of THE MESSAGE

7:11 he doesn’t know because Marcus didn’t tell him… clearly he was shocked to know that he omitted details

@vespuh

Жыл бұрын

yes obviously, wakey wakey kangaroo, brain activity reaching critically low levels....

@daynechastant

Жыл бұрын

Riddle: If you need a lawyer, what do you tell him? Answer: EVERYTHING. As soon as freakin' POSSIBLE! The LAST person your lawyer wants to hear the truth from is THE OTHER LAWYER.

@runic7

Жыл бұрын

I am so glad you wrote that out and explained this part of the scene, as if it wasn't obvious at all! Thank you!

@RooKangaRoo

Жыл бұрын

@@runic7 Thank you for not writing a useless response.

RIP Billie Miller

Go Katie!!!!!

Actually, Katie has no legal way to take and keep Marcus away from the kids. Unless he is violent, which he isn't, their is no grounds to get full custody. Marcus is not an unfit father. Also people in these comments, don't realize is that the sister in law has put the kids at risk, Harvey has a list. So both Marcus and his wife make mistakes. So the commentors who spoke against me, need a wake up call.

@voidwalker8754

Жыл бұрын

Technically they could call it parental manipulation which deems him an unfit father.

@djdeznyc

Жыл бұрын

He has a gambling problem

@JPK1337

Жыл бұрын

she has. he manipulated his child for his gambling problem. and in 9 out of 10 cases, the mother gets custody.

@TruckieLooks4Aliens

Жыл бұрын

That’s completely false and she does have grounds. He asked his kid to conceal his transgression which a court would look at as harmful conduct in the mental health and well being of a child. Esp if it is something he’s had a history of doing. He would get visitation and be ordered to parenting classes if he wanted more.

@raulbetancourt5795

Жыл бұрын

They could say Marcus was endargering the kids, you know how casinos are when you're in debt.

I finally caved and started watching the series, of course I’m overlooking the obvious plot hole that New York already has laws in place to apprenticeship people who have not gone to law school….

@mrpeanutbutter6817

Жыл бұрын

Are you also overlooking the fact that their firm only hires Harvard grads as associates? Cause that's the whole point.

@patrickcarrera5956

Жыл бұрын

I would be giga surprised if any firm would only hire from one school…. Maybe if it’s like top 5 or 10. But one school alone seems giga far fetched, only reason it’s within the show is to carry the plot :}

@mrpeanutbutter6817

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickcarrera5956 There's a lot, and i mean A LOT, of big companies within different fields, not only law, that have an actual written rule to only hire graduates from a specific university (sometimes a couple) because of the prestige it brings with it, or the work methodology taught there. Several hundred students graduate from Harvard Law each year, and this being one of the top firms, they also choose between a couple of them each year, it's not that uncommon. I used to work at a design firm that also only hired students (graduates or still studying) from a specific university.

@Commandotoad

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I kept noticing stuff like that. If these guys were real lawyers, they would be considered idiots. They break rules they don't even need to break.

@stevenguo6573

Жыл бұрын

@@mrpeanutbutter6817 HLS has never had the #1 ranked law school or the highest average LSAT since rankings began or LSAT scores were tracked. To only hire from HLS would saying to clients that we don't actually have the best lawyers. Suits is a TV show. The lawyers depicted don't exist in real life because no highly paid lawyer has more than 1 practice field. Decent drama tho

That other lawyer is a real cold heartless shark

@scottmatheson3346

7 ай бұрын

no, she's doing her job with professionalism

How dafuq do you get sanctioned within an hour, before even meeting your client

@raghuvamshia9499

Жыл бұрын

Nice one

@salguodrolyat2594

Жыл бұрын

Modern day misandrist family court system in America for you.🤷‍♂️

A million dollar Abel I'm gone pull out magic

which episode is this ?

Marcus came from a broken family as so did Harvey. Marcus just couldn't keep himself together.

@pomme00800

Жыл бұрын

He's just a cheater, that's it!

@ultimatestuff7111

Жыл бұрын

@@pomme00800 that’s pretty bad

This series got me thru law school and law school ruined this series for me.. 🤷‍♂️

@huntergost3680

6 ай бұрын

Explain pls 😢?

@efazchowdhury3866

6 ай бұрын

​@@huntergost3680They're all terrible lawyers

@huntergost3680

6 ай бұрын

@@efazchowdhury3866 why

Harvey, my best closer ❤

But wouldnt a lawyer representing a family member be a conflict of interest IRL.

Wow is all I can say.

If there ever was proof of how much Harvey's character grew throughout the series, in terms of personal connections, this is it.

How come I’m not seeing notifications from this show? For some reason they quit showing up?

@maxgee22

Жыл бұрын

sorry bro, thats my fault

@kyleblackwell9958

Жыл бұрын

@@maxgee22 how?

@ZZMJo

Жыл бұрын

Same here...

@youssefyasser4852

Жыл бұрын

@@kyleblackwell9958 u don’t recognise rick sorkin?

@kyleblackwell9958

Жыл бұрын

@@youssefyasser4852 can the notifications be fixed or not?

Brother looks like Fabrizio Romano had too much pasta.

Marcus is such an idiot-he demanded his brother to come down and be his lawyer but he didn’t think to tell him why they were getting divorced? As if it was never going to come up, it left Harvey completely unable to prepare his case.

Guys,which season and which episode is this?

@medhanshtripathi1488

Жыл бұрын

S8 episode 5

Beside that my little job

I never watched an episode of this show, but I am spam watching the youtube videos and just spoiling myself, help me

6:14 That was a Harvey move and he knows his way to help. He will go after anything. RIP to BJ Miller in Real Life.

Depend case that's why it's municipal circuit and supreme all matters must be first considered under the 7th amendment

Acquitted from doj and eeco time get record expunged and become a ghost

Should pull the ticket lawsuit and leave funny conundrum lol a few trillion easy

Once you cheat its done

No I'm a notary it a hobby

i swear this show is just people finishing each other’s sentences. i dont understand the how its so popular 😭

Wow, there is forgiveness in the USA shows?

Law to easy

Earning money is an action. Keeping money is behavior, but "Growing money is wisdom," I found out a week ago.

@ChrispyDude

Жыл бұрын

KZread really gotta handle these BS bot posts

You know the world is messed up when things only get serious when the guy has a gambling problem .. sleeping with someone else on the other hand.. nah no biggie

@silox100

Жыл бұрын

You're overlooking a couple things there. 1: Harvey wanted to beat his brother up when he told him he cheated, but chose to help anyway. 2: Marcus lied about cheating to cover up that he was gambling again and 3: He told his daughter to lie for him and keep his secret, which is what Harvey and Marcus' mother did to them when they were kids. So it's a little more layered than you made it out.

In this show there have been a number of high stakes battles, but none of them were as dangerous and fraught as what went on in this conference room. It is in family law that emotions rule the room, and the law goes out the window. Don't believe me?? Just look at the recent case in Las Vegas, where a lawyer had a gun and shot and killed three people, including himself, during exactly this type of negotiation.

“ I don’t want my family to be ripped apart either” Immediately buys the best lawyer in the city to rip her family apart… 😂

@TheThe-sn1wc

Ай бұрын

He cheated dummee

The entire series is so, so unrealistic. Lawyers must be specialized just like doctors. A lawyer working in corporate arbitrage would never be engaging in the highly-specialized field of divorce law. Furthermore, there is no way any lawyer, brother-in-law or not, would ever contact directly the opposing party without opposing counsel present.

@nickboeijen8177

Жыл бұрын

Yeah thats right but they needed to keep the show interesting. So that probably is why they did this.

@usmzn

Жыл бұрын

Very unrealistic, but it was his sister in law as well. So who knows, and the way they represented Harvey as one of the best lawyers in the United States, he’d probably get away with being a divorce lawyer temporarily. Lawyers are lawyers at the end of the day, despite what field they’re working in.

@b2kzangelalwayz

Жыл бұрын

“Must be” is wrong. They don’t have to be specialized - it benefits them to be, allows them to be hired by firms and legitimizes them in their field. Specialized means limiting their practice to areas they have experience in.

@raulbetancourt5795

Жыл бұрын

Not really, but I'm not an expert like you people apparently are.

@dimitriye98

Жыл бұрын

I'm curious whether it actually would be an ethics violation. He hadn't actually been retained as his lawyer yet when he went to speak to her. I'd be curious to hear an actual lawyer chime in here. My gut feeling is he wouldn't be sanctioned but he also wouldn't be permitted to represent him after that

Harvey first tough case he had to try really hard to make an effort

Who's the actor who played the BROTHER. ?

@DeanoXHill

5 ай бұрын

William John Miller II Passed Away in September 2023.

@James-hs3tu

5 ай бұрын

@@DeanoXHill 🙏🙏🙏🙏

I hated marcus

@vespuh

Жыл бұрын

i hope they leave him in a ditch

@frlipa

Жыл бұрын

Why? Because he's a three dimensional person with weaknesses instead of being a perfect robot like mike and harvey?

@Skynexstar

Жыл бұрын

@@frlipa dude the entire point of the series is mike and harvey dealing with the fact that they are anything but perfect lol

@pomme00800

Жыл бұрын

​@@frlipa because he's a toxic parent, just like his mother

@captjuanco5766

Жыл бұрын

@@frlipa The clown always asks for help and cant stand on his own. You don't need to be a robot to be better than that sod

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00: Harvey is asked by Marcus to represent him in a divorce case. 01:07: Marcus cheated on his wife, Katie, leading to a divorce and custody battle. 02:28: Harvey advises Marcus to reconcile with Katie for the sake of their kids. 04:23: Harvey and Marcus meet with Katie and her lawyer to discuss custody. 06:09: Katie accuses Marcus of improper communication, leading to sanctions. 06:52: Katie challenges Marcus's role as a father due to his gambling and secret-keeping. 07:54: Marcus reveals his gambling addiction and another secret, causing further conflict. 08:40: Harvey confronts Marcus for his actions and leaves the situation. Made with HARPA AI

@Daniel-wj5tl

5 ай бұрын

bro really needed to AI suits 💀

I really hate they keep telling Donna everything

S8E5

Markus is hypocrite because later he says Harvey gave up on family.

Was that just Jennifer Aniston, but instead of blond hair, she has black hair?

Don't ever get married. Ever. EVER! This might be a show but even fake lawyers are lower than whale shyt.

So why is gambling a valid reason to take away his kids? It’s legal. Or am I missing a ponit?

Interesting Where's the rest of the episode ? Nice women Lawyer. What's her name. ?? What's the outcome

Alfaunxiao.

They don’t look anything alike.

@clapflaps1

Жыл бұрын

They look a little bit alike

@2EKgn16

Жыл бұрын

They aren't identical twins so they don't need to be....

am i dumb or not isnt cheating worse than what he actually did😂

Defend your brother no matter what Harvey

@scottmatheson3346

9 ай бұрын

always defend kids over evil adults

Boy they ruined this show.

You must want to do the MLK on to easy by his bday for data corruption

if Marcus lost 20 lbs he'd be pretty hot

I feel sorry for the brother