"There is a difference between a career and vocation: Your career is the stuff that fills your resume; your vocation is the stuff that fills your eulogy".

@RealLifeCatholic

2 ай бұрын

AMEN!

@sabinesfamily

2 ай бұрын

Chris, I loved your remarks about the entire speech but the way you edified what he said while explaining how it could have been said better about women, vocations and fathers was the best!!

@lahanlon

2 ай бұрын

In doing AV for our parish, I have seen dozens of funerals the last couple of years. The most moving and memorable eulogies will barely, if it all, reference what the decedent did in their career. And in general, those are the ones more well attended. You can easily tell who truly lived out their vocation.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

This video advocates for the New order religion, not the traditional Catholic religion.

@gleannmhuire

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Bring back the Inquisition.

I think he’s a great example of what a Catholic husband and father should be. His courage is enormous and his speech has put him on a cross for being true to himself and to God!

@monicamohan4720

2 ай бұрын

PERFECT!!!

@Sunny-it6or

2 ай бұрын

NOT ACCURATE! Butker was so self SELF righteous and arrogant. He is unlike any Christian I would hope to know. The Catholic Church is definitely not the "church of nice."This is the church that has physically, mentally and sexually abused children for so many decades (centries). The children you would rather protect before they are born. He just shuts down any interest in theFaith. What a huge disappointment!!.

@Sunny-it6or

2 ай бұрын

WOKE This! Your commentary is unhinged.

@Sunny-it6or

2 ай бұрын

My pastor was so involved and we wore masks to worship together.

@Sunny-it6or

2 ай бұрын

Love is willing sacrifice. Women have always been called to do this for their husband just as Jesus sacrificed his life for our sins in the ultimate act of love. Ask all the single mothers how they feel. Men do matter and are needed but they don't step up.

“The refusal to take sides on great moral issues is itself a decision. It is a silent acquiescence to evil. The Tragedy of our time is that those who still believe in honesty lack fire and conviction, while those who believe in dishonesty are full of passionate conviction.” Fulton J. Sheen

@user-gh8sl7iu3y

2 ай бұрын

I feel that Harrison Bulker and Chris are on the same page. They’d be a terrific writing team. In my opinion the portions of the speech that Chris disagreed with likely would have been aligned had Mr Butker not been limited to a time in which to complete therefore the final edited speech was very well done.

@RealLifeCatholic

2 ай бұрын

I agree. Great quote.

@mperez2730

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing the quote from Fulton Sheen. He is very missed and much needed nowadays 🙏

@roberthiguera6828

2 ай бұрын

Let your yes be yes and your no be no!! If you are in the middle that’s from the evil one!! Warm will be vomitted out of his mouth so be hot or cold!! Viva Christo Rey!!

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

The self-designated real life Catholic is a practitioner and promoter of the novus ordo religion. On the other hand, Butker is clearly an advocate of the traditional Catholic faith.

Bishop Sheen said that it is up to the laity "to remind bishops to be bishops and priests to be priests." Butker is correct in making this call-out. Sorry if it does not agree with your sentiments on "proper tone." Stop trying to match necessary rebuking with proper charity. Christ called the Pharisees vipers...all of them. He did not NUANCE it like it seems you are requiring. Christ called them hypocrites; He called them white sepulchres. He told Peter to "get behind Me, Satan." Chris, you're suffering from a vice of false modesty and false compassion. The money drop at the Chancery has been going down for a long time now, and it's not due to statements like Butker's.

@stephanie4949

2 ай бұрын

Bravo!

@IK31704

2 ай бұрын

💥👏

As for the statement about priests. He wasn’t broadly attacking groups without specification as you suggest. Quite simply if you aren’t a priest prioritizing your hobbies over your parish then don’t take offense, he’s not speaking about you. If you are pouring out your life for the church, good news, he wasn’t speaking about you. He was addressing an issue many of us have experienced, priests that have their priorities mixed up. A big problem in the church. Thanks to Butker for addressing it and not sorry for priests who feel shame when they hear this and feel bad about mis-prioritizing their time and efforts. I’ll never forget one January 1st a priest dedicated his homily to recounting Miley Cyrus’ performance during NYE celebrations he clearly stayed up to watch instead of contemplating and meditating on Mary the Mother of God.

@gregeichhold8562

2 ай бұрын

As for bishops. Again he’s not speaking of the relatively few Bishops who speak truth. Yes it goes largely unnoticed, but I do see when Bishops speak up it makes the rounds on conservative Catholic Twitter and gets praised. Bishops Cordelione and Strickland and many others.

@gregeichhold8562

2 ай бұрын

As for the mass. Did I miss where Butker said Novus Ordo is invalid as you suggest? He is pushing back against monumental and unprecedented V2 changes which is his duty and completely in his lane. We are allowed to voice opposition to pastoral decisions of a Pope. He feels called to use his platform to voice support for TLM and I and grateful for it.

@gregeichhold8562

2 ай бұрын

As for NFP I originally took his comment as ‘misuse of NFP’ being Catholic birth control. But I could be wrong. If he meant NFP in general, which is entirely possible, then I agree with you. This is an area he went too far. I’m sure he feels genuine about his position but as a married Catholic with slight scruples I can say it isn’t good for someone too venture into a very difficult topic with severe implications. I pray every day for God to help me make a decision on properly spacing children while considering my wife’s physical health, mental health and our general ability to provide all that is necessary.

@stevecor

2 ай бұрын

These are excellent comments you made here, Greg. I hope Chris reads them. I would echo them wholeheartedly ! Spot on.

@MAMABENEDIKT

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Stop being offended when HB isn’t talking about you or those who his words are not directed at. He’s not talking about all priests or all bishops. He’s talking about the ones who are standing out and not following our Holy Mother the Church. Plenty of bishops are not present to their flock. It isn’t always due to money. I, too, have worked with priests and bishops. In these modern times, our priests and bishops have more paperwork and regulations which keep them from their flock. Of course, there are those ordained who choose not to properly feed their flock. Thank God my faith is not dependent on you, Chris, nor Harrison Butker.

Our brother in Christ is receiving attacks from the entire culture because he speaks truth. We should publicly and unequivocally back him instead of parsing his words and splitting hairs so we remain in the good graces of polite society. Equivocation and middling is what our society wants from Catholics.

@RealLifeCatholic

2 ай бұрын

I think God wants us to stand with truth - and only truth, in love. If we see it as “us” and “them” then we’re no better than the “woke cancel culture warriors.” Of course, I hear your point that he needs to be defended unequivocally from the cancel mob at his door - and this I also do in my video.

@wthibeau

2 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeCatholic thank you for your response and your ministry. Christ came to divide, not to unite, and we should be cognizant of this reality of division in our world. It’s not “woke” to know that love doesn’t necessitate being nice and acceptable to those who hate our way of life.

@jerryaltermatt5583

2 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeCatholic Read Matthew 23. To everything there is a season. Butker's rhetoric may not have been to your taste, but sometimes you need to call a spade a spade....in love.

@jmm91910

2 ай бұрын

I couldn’t say it better myself, thank you !

@victoragusta1760

2 ай бұрын

@@wthibeau I respectfully disagree. Christ did not come to divide. He came to unite us with Him. There may be people who refuse the invitation, but Jesus came to save us all.

At the start, you said you were going to tell us what Butker got wrong...where he was not correct regarding Catholic teaching. All we really got was where he differed with your opinion, or where, because you are a professional speaker, you would have said it much better. Sorry Chris, but you come off here as arrogant and nit-picking. Most of your criticisms revolve around his use of hyperbole and generalizations. Jesus himself used hyperbole and generalizations. Are you going to call Jesus unjust? After all, I'm sure not every single Pharisee was a "serpent and a generation of vipers". Sometimes hyperbole and generalizations are called for. The closest you got to showing where he was "incorrect" was regarding NFP and the TLM, but you failed on both, which I'll show in separate comments.

@RealLifeCatholic

2 ай бұрын

He was dead wrong on NFP and mass. If he didn’t intend to say what he implied he can clear that up and retract his statement. He’s a big boy.

@jerryaltermatt5583

2 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeCatholic "If he didn’t intend to say what he implied"...Huh?! He intended to say what he said. He didn't imply what you said he implied. You keep repeating that if he didn't really imply what YOU think he did, then he needs to clear it up. Sorry to have to say this, Chris, but that is a little egotistical on your part to presume that he knows you and watches your videos much less that he should be expected to clear this up to the only person out there that is accusing him of saying the NO is invalid. I explained in two subsequent posts how he was not dead wrong on either of these issues. Many others here have also pointed out where you're completely unhinged in what you're drawing out of his words. But at the risk of being repetitive, here's my earlier posts pasted below: 1) He said there was nothing "natural" about Catholic birth control. You're judging his orthodoxy on this issue based on a single hyperbolic statement, which is a little unfair. Even so, the statement taken alone is actually more correct than incorrect because the "grave" part of the reason for using NFP is missing both in practice and teaching. The criticism of NFP as most Catholics conceive it (no pun intended) is justified. 2) Your criticism of the TLM portion of his talk went (predictably) straight to the implication that he is claiming the TLM is the only valid Mass. He said no such thing. He didn't say that the TLM is the only one "approved by God", as you state. He also didn't claim that the TLM "came straight from God as it was in the 1962 Roman missal and has never changed". You are guilty here of the same rashness and lack of prudence that you accuse him of. I think your real beef with him on this issue is that he believes the TLM is objectively more fitting for worship. Now you can argue whether that is true or not (and I think good Catholics can argue either way), but don't beat up a straw man. BTW, there are only 6 (maybe 7 if you're a splitter) liturgical rites, not 33 (or 24) liturgical rites as you claim. Sorry, but if you're going to engage in finding every little fault (real or perceived) in a person's speech, expect the same.

@sozonpv

2 ай бұрын

​@@RealLifeCatholic He was NOT dead wrong on NFP and the mass. @jerryaltermatt5583 points this out very well. Sometimes when we quickly react and respond, we not only get it wrong but we are off putting. That's exactly what I see here. Please take down the video.

22:14 what the hell you're talking about?! He was not in a debate; he was giving a speech to people who share his Catholic views. I'm not an American. I'm a non-religious person from the Philippines but I stand with Harrison Butker and American Catholics against the lunatic Left-leaning liberal Marxists!

Harrison’s speech was fantastic. He said the things that most Catholics with a big enough platform are too afraid to say. May God protect him and his family and may He raise up more Men like him

@kathyreilly3644

2 ай бұрын

Harrison speech was from his heart. Freedom of speech enabled him to speak. God bless America and our right to our Freedom of Speech.

@nromerob

2 ай бұрын

The problem is mixed in with the good things he said were some foolish/imprudent or inflammatory things.

Chris, Butker is right. Calling out our Bishop’s to speak out took courage. He knows there are good Bishop’s but they should all have the courage of Jesus as should all Christians.

@davekwiecinski

2 ай бұрын

Exactly! Should he have named names? I don't think so.

Butker is not a professional speaker like some people I follow 😉. He’s a football kicker who took an opportunity given to him. It’s unfair to critique him as though he does this for a living. I applaud his effort tremendously and really think you should have used more prudence in your remarks. He’s an amateur. You’re the professional.

@natnat8199

2 ай бұрын

I think Butker can handle this sort of critique which is a lesson on nuance, depth and precision from an elder, more experienced speaker. I hope he sees it, takes what he needs from it and continues giving inspiring speeches. They both did a great job.

@vilmaleon3601

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully Bukter will see Chris' remarks and learn something

I am disappointed in the way you criticized Harrison. With the church being so divided I would have expected more unity not division. I wonder why you chose this route.

@jerryaltermatt5583

2 ай бұрын

Why this route? Harrison is Traditional Catholic, the last group of human beings on the face of the earth that we're still allowed to throw stones at. Sadly, it's the TLM portion of the speech that triggered Chris the most. My guess is that if Harrison had left that out, Chris would not have made this video. Unfortunately, he attacked him for it and did so in a calumnious manner, accusing him of something he did say or even imply.

@Jen-je3oz

2 ай бұрын

Jerry, yes! I didn’t hear Harrison say the NO “isn’t approved by God”. Harrison just prefers the TLM.

Lastly...I think you should follow your own rules. Don't make sweeping statements in your title for this video, "Harrison Butker: What He Gets Right. What He Gets Wrong. Both Matter. Here’s Why." Are you the arbiter of all truth? You frame this like you want to have discussions and debate, yet you claim to be able to determine what Butker "gets right/gets wrong" as if you know all. Well, much of what is in your video is opinion, and many of your opinions on what he "gets wrong" strongly appear to be based on your emotions/feelings/sentiments of what tone, the virtue of charity, and nuance should be. You also use arguments, such as with the TLM, that are not relevant to the problem...in debate terms, they lose on topicality. This search for perfect tone, sentiment, and nuance invoke a silence which we all agree (and you quoted St. Catherine of Siena explicitly) is not good. Stop nitpicking courageous men like Butker to seem smart, or more charitable, etc., and be more like him.

Butker said nothing wrong. Sometimes to smile and be only positivity because you’re above being negative is disingenuous. Butker isn’t afraid of being offensive to the smiley Catholics.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

Mr Stephanie's agenda is really quite transparent

The majority of Bishops are not as great as the one you have, I do believe he did give props to the good priests and bishops. He is a traditionalist and Latin Mass follower, and his beliefs are very consistent with that following. He also has a pre Vatican II belief and does not agree with things that are post Vatican II like NFP. I like many people need to have more children. I think his views on the Mass, and how he practices. I agree with you about mass and worship, but he and others like him have grown as a result of attending his mass. He is not condemning others, he is advocating for. It was a perfect speech and the best I have ever heard as far as addressing young graduates is concerned

Bishop Paprocki has done a fair analysis of Butkers speech. He is much more lenient in his criticisms than you are. He supports Butkers criticism of priests. Butker didn’t seek to be a Catholic influencer. His statements came from personal conviction. Bishop Paprocki supports his values. Rephrasing what he should have said really falls flat. His platform is life.

@stephanie4949

2 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly! Bishop Paprocki has now made 2 YT videos that strongly defend HB's speech. This wise and courageous shepherd sees the big picture and understands the importance of supporting the hugely predominant positives in this speech rather than nitpicking its relatively minor flaws.

You are being too defensive. He is speaking for the disappointed flock.

Just look at the type of people who had a problem with the speech. That tells you all you need to know.

Way to go Chris. The Catholic Church has been in decline since Vatican 2, Harrison Butker delivers the wake-up call, and you nitpick his speech and even offer to rewrite it for him. My takeaway from your comments: Go back to sleep everybody.

"It shows it our numbers not coming back". Chris, not sure where you are attending Mass, but our local FSSP parish has about tripled since Covid. And lets be honest, the future is the TLM. The average age at a TLM is about 12 and growing rapildly, the average age at a NO Mass is about 72 and dwindling.

@roberthiguera6828

2 ай бұрын

Same with our SSPX church

@gabryfaraj1880

2 ай бұрын

It sounds like you guys don't need to worry about the Ordinary form of the Mass then because if that's the case it'll naturally die out! Praise Jesus you have so many attending Mass. Conversely, if others still choose to continue to attend the ordinary form of the Mass, praise Jesus for those also able to participate in the source and summit of our faith: the Eucharist!

Harrison Butker said what needed to be said. I see a man who knows that we have to get our lives back in line with the teachings of Jesus Christ. Those who disagree with Harrison Butker may continue to lead their lives in accordance with their own opinions. However, if you see this speech for what it is, it may just change your life and put you on the narrow path leading to Our Lord and Savior.

@Sunny-it6or

2 ай бұрын

There was very little that was Christ like in his speech for me. Because But[tlic]ker reaps what he sows. He is blinded by privilege, pride, and greed. I don't even recognize God in his faith, he is so busy attacking everyone else's lives. He acts like he is standing up for his Catholic beliefs, but he just berates everyone in such a sanctimonious manner. The last time I checked, this was the church that physically, mentally, and sexually abused thousands of children, and there is no limiting pregnancy in any way. He attacks surrogacy, IVF, LGBT+, women, our president, priests...he really left no one else to rebuke. How does he get anything done outside of constant confession?

This is the first video of yours I have seen. I am a 64 year old woman, life long Catholic who has struggled with many aspects of my faith. I’m not impressed with the way you criticized a young catholic man, who is not a polished experienced public speaker or a theologian and who courageously spoke up in a culture that is so anti everything that the Catholic Church should stand for. I’m not sure what your experience with NFP is but your comments are off base in my opinion. As a former youth minister who spent much time looking for answers teenagers asked. I discovered just how far from what the Holy Sees directives for how the NO should be celebrated are. Too much emphasis on music or chatting or … you name it. Focus should be on Jesus and his sacrifice and too many Catholics don’t seem to understand that.

Bishop Paprocki has now made 2 videos unreservedly supporting HB's speech (on Diocese of Springfield, IL's YT channel). This wise and courageous shepherd understands that the overall impact of HB's speech is overwhelmingly positive and thus deserves strong public support -- rather than a public nitpicking of its relatively minor flaws. Archbishop Cordileone & Bishop Strickland have also supported the speech. You make some valid points, but these should have been addressed with him privately. By going public with your long list of criticisms, I think you're failing to see the big picture. Matthew 23:24: "Woe to you blind guides, who strain out a gnat but swallow a camel."

I'm at a NO, convert from Eastern Orthodox. I would take the TLM yesterday! It is better. The priest prays more. Legitimately. He has more prayers to say. Don't know about you, but I need that, as a lay person! The visual motions are of humility of the people towards our God. The women veil, in imitation of Mary. Never has Mary appeared since her Assumption without a veil. And she lives in Heaven! I don't want to see any more lay people giving out communion! There's nothing extraordinary (EME) about something you do every day! Yes, I am willing to stay 10 extra minutes at mass. This way, I'm not exiting the church within five minutes of receiving communion. His advice is solid! Move to a TLM parish. And it is my constant prayer that we will have the TLM in every Catholic Church again. Translate it in every language, fine. But why butcher it? What bothers me is when someone tries to defend that which has caused legitimate harm to the church. Baltimore is closing! half of their churches. And that's not an exception. NO parishes across the world are committing sacrilegious acts (see pride mass). People raised Catholic leave in far greater numbers than those joining the church. And the whole 'mother earth' discourse... let me tell you, I hear it from the mouths of otherwise good priests. Which tells me they are getting orders from somewhere about this! You would NEVER hear that at a TLM parish. Perhaps it would help to remember that communism & secretive sects aren't dead, nor have they remained uninterested in the Catholic Church. And what they want is for us to divide. What's wrong with admitting the influence of freemasonry on the changes to the liturgy after Vatican II? I think HB was very prudent not to mention them directly. You think all those lodges produce nothing? On the contrary. I think God showed us pretty clear where He stands on the TLM and social issues when he preserved the body of a TLM black skinned nun from corruption. He does not lack clarity, that's for sure!

@SAMiracle306

2 ай бұрын

Agreed! My wife had a powerful experience with the Holy Spirit at our first TLM, and wasn't convinced of joining the Catholic church until that moment. She came home to the church this past Divice Mercy Sunday.

@littlerock5256

2 ай бұрын

@@SAMiracle306 Divine Mercy Sunday is not traditional. Even John XXIII condemned it.

I want to start out by saying i am a Catholic, trying my hardest to persue The Objective Truth. But after watching your video, I was deeply disturbed by some of your criticisms of Harrison's points you claim are "off." Its just extremely frustrating to hear major Catholic figures express directly opposing views, and BOTH claim "its the Teaching of the Church." (Obviously impossible) so someone is being led astray by you or him and the other fellas who agree with him. Point 1,a. "Broadly Condemm wide groups of people." My perspective; In some cases a speaker has to be broad as to not single out any one specific name or corner of mentioned individuals, because that would be Defamation or inaccurate. As well as, it is good in some cases when everyone starts looking around, or is asking themselves, "is me that he is talking about"? This is good, because it spurs healthy internal reflection in many people that they may never do otherwise. Point 1,b. He didnt say "all" or even "Most". He said "Many". As in, there are still good shepherds but there are a large lumber of problem cases. Everyone agrees there are good priests who "Have Poured out their life for the church" but thats not who hes talking about and to assume that he is clumping them into the problem "corner" is Disingenuous, and unfair to Harrison. The problem he is highlighting, (that you seem to be unaware of, or refuse to acknowledge), (i wont declare either way, or other,) is that there are ALLOT of weak and malformed Priests with disorganized priorities. Its not a stretch to say that a small few of them are just flat out wolves, and nobody is doing anything accept shake fingers at the whistle blowers. I love all our Priests, but there are big problems that need to be talked about, and your dismissal is not bringing us towards a unifying conclusion. Point 2. Bishops. Sometimes it is the Bishops Duty to "not be nice, and to speak the truths that sometimes people dont wanna hear." As you said. If the bishops were really are coming out and drawing a line in the sand on what is church teaching, and what is not, and what is sin, and what is not... then they too would be making headlines like Mr. Butker is here. But they are not, out of fear of being cancelled and/or offending someone. This is a major problem that is not hard to see. When scandals come about in the Church and nothing is done or said in regards. Or when something woke happens within the church and the priest involved gets a slap on the wrist. (Unpopular opinion) If the parishoners arent seeing the documents the Bishop puts out, its His fault. Because some Bishops have that figured out. Whenever the Bishop Of the Diocese of Duluth comes out with a letter, every single Priests in the Diocese is either reading it to the Parishoners at Mass or handing it to them when they leave Mass. Never once has the Bishop of Di. Duluth come out and condemmed Abortion or receiving the Eucarist unworthily, or preaching how wonderfull and helpful confession is for those who struggle with sexual sin. Or how cohabitation is unacceptable for the unmarried. All grave, rampant problems that need dire attention and it is their responsibility to make it cristal clear to us. I myself was blind to many church teachings untill i found someone who wasnt afraid to hurt my feeling and just tell me how to not offend my God. Point 3. Natural Family Planning I have no personal opinions about this. I only observe, and deeply desire the truth. This is a large cause for frustration and confusion because i have no attachment, but am concerned for my salvation and the salvation of millions more young adults who this pertains to. I hear opposite claims from yours, from other traditional speakers, saying that NFP is not allowed by the church, accept in grave occasions, according to the Traditional Teachings of the Church leading up to roughly 1960s when we "tried to stay relevant to the world." So now people are told to NFP if they want a car or a boat or to travel for a few years. Giving the benifit of the doubt, i bet Mr. B is aware that it is allowed in some cases, but is calling out the alleged large number of situations where it is being wildly abused becuase grave reason is not present. Did you consider that maybe hes not condemming it entirely just bringing fourth the point that it should not continue being common practice? Did you know its being wildy abused by young married couples, if not would that piece of knowlege have changed your response? Final point. The latin Mass What he says about the TLM does not presume that the 1962 Roman missal came down straight from God, what it presumes is that the TLM was formed organicly over the course of 1900 years throught the Guidence and direction of the Holy Spirit. And what he said presumes that the New Mass was formed by a fever of change spurred on by the drasticly shifting culture of the 1950s 60s and 70s, with the guidence and direction of "The Spirit Of Vatican II." He is not speaking about the "What." Of the two. I can confirm he acknowledges that they are both valid from past podcasts he attended. He is speaking specifically on the "How." Your misunderstanding of this important fact is made evident by saying "This is not your lane dude." He is not claiming invalidity. He is making a statement about superiority. Yes which one is BETTER. Which one is a More Perfect Sacrifical Offering to God, better for the faithfull sheep, better for marriages, better for the flourishing of families, better for the strengthening of the spiritualy weak, better for habitual sinners who need to change, better for the cathecising of the teenagers, better for the conversion of Protestants and Atheist, better for the fostering of humility, and better for the BELEIF IN THE REAL PRESENCE! After all Lex Arandi, Lex Cradendi... TLM= 1900 years of Organic Catholicism development. N.O. = 1960s cultural and Protestantial influence. See applicable polls for the fruits... As well as, actions speak louder than words. When the Priest at a Mass shows body laguage like hes at the Re-presentation On Calvary, by facing God and praying to God on our behalf (not performing to/for us)... that helps form our Consciences to the fact that Heaven is present and that the Eucarist is truly Jesus. Everything else you commented on i agreed with and suport fully. May God bless you and may he find you pleasing in his sight on your Judgment day.❤ Wanna talk more? Im open to a further form of conversation even if its face to face! With cameras obv. Lol

Do you plan to address the legitimate concerns of multiple commenters about your misrepresenting of Butker's comments about the TLM that others have brought up? It appears that you have a viewpoint to give as opposed to a true correction or suggestion. Linking to one Dominican community's response to the Mass of the Ages seems to validate that you may have an axe to grind rather than a charitable clarification or response to provide.

Butker did not say the NO was invalid. One of my problems with the NO is that it's a huge break from the previous Mass. It did not occur organically but was put together by a committee. Although the Mass of 1962 isn't exactly the same as 2000 yrs. ago, the changes occurred organically. And the truth is that very, very few NO Masses are done the way VII envisioned in Sacrosanctum Concilium. The Roman Canon is rarely used and the design of the Mass allows for too many options which often leads to abuse. Sure the essential parts of the Sacrament are there making it valid. But so much has to be overlooked to not become discouraged and lose faith. God allows it but I'm not sure God wills it.

@amyschlegel1180

2 ай бұрын

I think we need to remember here that Harrison Butker attends the Latin Mass at an FSSP church, not the Society of Saint Piux X, and the Fraternity does not say negative things about the Novus Ordo. Mass, Please don’t make assumptions about what he does and doesn’t believe in regard to the Latin Mass unless he states it himself.

@nancyproctor320

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. The NO can be offered beautifully, but often isn’t. It is certainly valid either way - beautiful or sloppy - but even at its best, the NO lacks the depth and breadth that exist in the prayers offered to God in the TLM. For me it’s never been about Latin v the vernacular, it’s always been about the consistency and the wording of the prayers. May the Holy Spirit lead the Church to reforms that will bring the modern liturgy more in line with the Tradition of the Church.

@littlerock5256

2 ай бұрын

@@nancyproctor320 Excellent book is Work of Human Hands: A Theological Critique of the Mass of Paul VI.

As a member of a Catholic lay community I think his speech was excellent especially respinsobilities of men as leaders of their family and clergy being leaders.

Instead of finding things wrong with his speech we should be applauding him for being courageous. I am a Catholic and the Catholic church is always saying to be courageous and talk the truths even though you won't be like. When someone actually does Catholics are criticizing him. Which one is it: You want us to speak the truth or keep quiet? I wish i had his courage to speak. I am still dealing with my chains and trying to break those chains for me to be courageous and speak the truth even though some Catholics weren't like it. I am Catholic but I am for Jesus Christ and weren't defend some stuff that the Catholic church does. The church is a hospital of sinners and there will be church fugures that will want to change the church. We shouldn't be criticism him instead applauding him.

@es001

2 ай бұрын

We also don't want to applaud him JUST for the sake of being a courageous Catholic when his speech HAS ERRORS that could lead others (children, non-Catholics, ignorant Catholics) in the wrong path. SPEAK THE TRUTH. We speak it not because it's courageous but because it gives glory to God. If it happens to be courageous then that's a plus but it's not as important as the truth.

@AdAstra_PerAspera5

2 ай бұрын

Nobody is above applying tact to public speaking.

@gwijotube

2 ай бұрын

Amen and Amen.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

The only problem is that the one in error is Mr Stephanie

This seems to be more of a nitpicking and protection of the clergy than thoughtful critique

@davekwiecinski

2 ай бұрын

That was my first (second, third, etc.) thought, too.

Bottom line is there is no perfect speech, unless you are God. He got us talking about God and examining ourselves, so I would say he delivered. Agree with him or not this man loves Jesus and he was calling us out to live our Faith and take it seriously because it has eternal consequences.

"It's actually a diabolical lie". Spot on Chris! The outcry of the 'culture and society' is the voice of sin and distortion. Harrison is gift as a man of courage.

Butker was a hundred percent right in his speech. Butker was being general about the clergy. He knows clergy who are very faithful and these faithful priests speak about other unfaithful consecrated souls. We have in record the corruption we're living in when Our Lady of La Sallet, france where the seat of St Peter will become the seat of the devil. Or when Our Lady appeared in akita japan. Confusion and apostasy reigns in all the world, most importantly in the Church between the bishops. And many priests would be persecuted. Meaning cancelled priests. We applaud Harrison's speech. Our Lord said that He didn't come to bring peace but the sword. So if women and men don't like this speech, grow a spine. Harrison is a man who respects women whether as mothers and in the workforce. He isn't toxic. As for the TLM, it was canonised by Pope Pius V. Novus Ordo is still valid because Our Lord is there. But Our Lord isn't pleased with it. I see Our Lord alone and in the dungeon where He was kept before he was crucified. Hip! Hip! Hooray! For Harrison Butker's speech. God bless...

I have a liberal bishop that I was pleased to hear him call out in his talk.

@user-pe6ft5gk9v

2 ай бұрын

I also have a liberal bishop. And I feel our liberal bishops and priests have, and are causing much confusion and division in the Church. I also know some very holy Bishops and priests. But I do strongly believe that our Bishops and priests need to boldly speak the hard Truths. Too many of them have been silent for a long time. Until 13 yrs ago when our parish was gifted with a very courageous priest, I don't think I ever heard a sermon on abortion.

@MrPAHearn

2 ай бұрын

I also have a very liberal (politician) Bishop/Cardinal and it was good to hear him called out. I also have a great Pastor who bucks the system and political correctness regularly and loved Butker's speech.

@reginapontes5672

2 ай бұрын

Is your bishop the dude who "blessed" the lesbian couple?

Hi Chris, I listened carefully to Harrison Butker's commencement speech and also to your commentary. I found nothing objectionable in his speech. In your commentary you are being overly critical. Of course there are certain parts he could have said better. I don't know about you, but whenever I teach a class or give a talk I have a certain anxiety afterwards when I think I could have said it better. Overall he did a very impressive job and we should all be supportive of the important truths he had the courage to express.

Chris I think the speech has to be 100% thumbs up. He’s not a professional speaker nor a clergyman. For those who do make a living evangelizing the faith, OK maybe he got a couple of things wrong. But as you say his courage is off the charts. He knew what he was doing and knew the backlash he would receive, but he didn’t care as he unequivocally is willing to give up what he’s got. My wish is someone would stand up at a public university and give a similar speech, thus breathing truth right into the bowels of the very institutions who are a big part of the purposeful destruction of God in this country. Teddy Roosevelt’s Man in the Arena applies here.

@vilmaleon3601

2 ай бұрын

Yes! Glad he has courage, but at least he should get his facts correct.

As a Catholic and a Benedictine college graduate of 2024 who received this speech as my commencement address, I thank you for everything you addressed here. This is exactly what me and so so many of my fellow classmates got from this speech. God bless you.

@RealLifeCatholic

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this. The perception is that the standing Ovation meant 100% support of his content. I could imagine it was for the thing I applauded at the start of my video, his courage - and that his content both inspired and confused. You’re not crazy, and I’m glad to validate the confusion you and your classmates experienced, and to help you navigate it.

@csm1813

2 ай бұрын

I hope the speech and the resulting media explosion did not take away from your graduation experience. Congratulations on four years of hard work, and may God bless you as you fulfill your calling, whether it be work/career, motherhood, or both!

@sozonpv

2 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeCatholicDid you feel validated with this post? Is the goal to seek validation?

@Myrtsie1

2 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeCatholicWay to undermine the person who just delivered the wake-up call to the country on the edge of going over the cliff.

@markmayronne2196

2 ай бұрын

I am glad you have what you feel is a good bishop, but unfortunately, I don’t…in my opinion, and I don’t see a good archbishop in the Chicago Archdiocese. How can you phrase every statement to cover the good while calling out the bad and still get the message across? Don’t hurt anyone’s feelings…It’s easy to dissect a speech after the fact plus you are a trained and experienced speaker and apologist. Mr. Butker is not. Maybe next year you can donate your time and talent to speak at the graduation ceremony and clarify what Mr. Butker got incorrect.

Harrison Butker, He is a Real man warrior of God. Viva Cristo Rey. !👍💪🙏⛪

You asked for our input. Sorry Chris I agree 100% with his speech. Your opinion is your opinion. I think he’s the first one who had the courage to stand for his beliefs. God bless.

@vilmaleon3601

2 ай бұрын

Like HIS Belief that the TLM is the correct one. That's Bukter's opinion.

@jerryaltermatt5583

2 ай бұрын

@@vilmaleon3601 Silly Butker. He should have known that one can only believe that the NO is the correct one.

To be a priest, you have to be willing to die a martyr. This means you have to stand up for the truth of Jesus at all times. Church Fathers are very clear on the concept of obedience. Also, they are very clear on not obeying the Bishop when the Bishop, himself, goes against the teachings of the Church. It is better to offend man, than God😮. Priests should absolutely speak up and call out the wicked priests and bishops, and if the wicked ones silence the good ones, rhe laity need to begin to speak out! We newd to let these bishops know that if they don't change their wicked ways, we will not support them!!! My own bishop gives the Holy Eucharist to those not in the state of Grace and to active homosexuals. How is this right!!!!

@paxchristi2248

2 ай бұрын

Correct. And in answer to your your last question, it is NOT right to give Communion to people who the priest KNOWS are in a state of mortal sin.

As for overbroad condemnations, I think you yourself went there when you characterized Butker's warning against "Catholic birth control" as being anti-NFP. I think what he was against was exactly what he said in his speech - people who are "playing God with having children - whether that be your ideal number or the perfect time to conceive." Using any method, NFP or something else, to say "well, we have a boy and a girl now, let's stop" is not being open to life. The church teaches that avoiding conception through NFP is licit when there is grave reason, not when it is convenient or makes you look good.

@AnnulmentProof

2 ай бұрын

Casti Connubii 54 "no reason however grave" allows for what is unnatural. Butker condemns ALL NFP.

@MichaelLindner

2 ай бұрын

@@AnnulmentProof Casti Connubii 54 does not say what you claim is says, and even if it did, Butker did not reference Casti Connubii. Even if he believe NFP is immoral (and I don't claim to knwo what's in his heart), that's not what he said in his speech.

@AnnulmentProof

2 ай бұрын

@@MichaelLindner HB said there is "nothing natural" about NFP. This can only mean NFP is illicit because "no reason however grave" can approve of what is unnatural. CC54

@MichaelLindner

2 ай бұрын

@@AnnulmentProof That is a misquote of what HB said. You are twisting his words. Also you are misreading CC. CC54 talks about frustrating the act, not continence, which CC says is licit for grave reasons. It even references in CC55 the sin of Onan, which was NOT continence. CC53 explicitly says "virtuous continence (which Christian law permits in matrimony when both parties consent) but by frustrating the marriage act" - in other words, birth control. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because you clearly are reading CC differently (and I think counter to the spirit in which it was written). But ether way, we can both agree that HB did not use the words NFP or Casti Connubii in his speech, and Christian charity requires that we not calumniate him.

@AnnulmentProof

2 ай бұрын

@@MichaelLindnerHB condemns NFP because he said "there is nothing natural about Catholic birth control." CC54. "But no reason, however grave, may be put forward by which anything intrinsically against nature may become conformable to nature and morally good."

Also, he didn’t say the novus ordo mass is invalid. He didn’t say anything of the othe rites being invalid as well. He is speaking to Roman Catholics, and advocating for the traditional Mass. Finally of note, just because something is valid or licit, doesn’t mean that it is the best expression or the best example, or even without scandal. An easy example is there are tons of marriages that exist that are valid or licit, and recognized by the church, that nobody would hold up and say it is the ideal or this is the best example… You shall know them by their fruit, you should go look at the polls showing who favors pre-born slaying between novus ordo parishes and TLM parishes. Or you could look at belief in the Eucharist between those that attend the novus ordo and those that attend the TLM. The data is there friend.

Chris, when you were 28 years old, without a theology degree, did you give a commencement speech as a witness for Christ?

Rather than more and more reactions to his speech, lets have Buttker join a back and forth conversation so he can clarify things and both of you learn from the other. Isn’t it Biblical to approach your brother first before taking the matter up the chain? Why not invite him for an interview?

Personally I think you missed his point and view. As a Traditional Roman Catholic I wholehearted agree with every statement he made! Hence the problem which the majority of novous ordo Catholics they pick and choose the easy road. Take the time to learn the Catholic faith, his courage and prudence is spot on! Viva Cristo Rey

@vilmaleon3601

2 ай бұрын

So, I guess you think that those that do not go to TLM do not know the faith.

@gabryfaraj1880

2 ай бұрын

Hey there! As a traditional Roman Catholic, where do you stand on other Catholic rites that are under Rome, such as Byzantine Catholics, Chaldean Catholics, or Maronite Catholics, for example? If they are permissible is it a language concern you have with Mass celebrated in native tongues as it is in the ordinary form of the Mass? Or is it the amount of the time that the rite has been around, which if that is the case, how long did it take for the Latin Mass to become the valid rite?

It was a commencement speech given at a Catholic college to a Catholic audience. He was challenging them to live their faith more radically be it in their vocation, how they worship or discerning their openness to life. It should have inspired all of us, whether single, wife, husband, priest or bishop to examine ourselves and ask, are we living the fullness of God's plan of us? It was very Petrine in its boldness. He gave voice to a lot of things that need to be discussed and those things are now being discussed. His speech was a breath of fresh air in its courage. I wouldn't have changed a word of it. And as a side note to all you young gals out there, you don't need to marry someone who makes 5 million a year to stay home with the kids. With sacrifice, a little chutzpah and determination, it's possible even in the lower income brackets. It would be nice if there were more Butkers out there encouraging all women who want to stay home as opposed to people assuming it can only happen through the luck of wealth.

@kristiurich4521

2 ай бұрын

Best decision I ever made was to quit a paying job and come home to raise my kids! We budgeted around my loss of income and guess what...God blessed us and we have never been for want of anything!

It is easy to pick apart. I think any problem you had should be taken to him personally and not to criticize him publicly for his views. Talk to him about what he is referring to regarding the law that you could get thrown into jail if you claim the Jews killed Jesus. Couldn’t you have just stood with him and take any of your issues directly to him. Make your own speech and see how easy it is. You are experienced in public speech and should not knit pick.

@gmacch

2 ай бұрын

The commencement speech is a public address and Chris or anyone else has a right to critique it in public.

@medworakowski101

2 ай бұрын

@@gmacchnot the point for me. Sometimes you just handle directly with that person. Yes, he has the right however, on a spiritual level, we are being attacked from every side and maybe should just take it to the person. A lot of double talk from Stefanic.

Hi Chris for me I agree in every word that Harrison stated in his speech just listen carefully how he point out leaders who are accountable for losing many soul because lack of charity to do more mission to speak about the necessity of every human soul. Majority of Bishop and priest are coward we need to shout out on rooftop.

There is not “more heroism” if a some mothers have to work. All the moms that sacrifice show heroism for their children, whether they have to work or not. Working outside the home doesn’t mean a woman earns instant heroism. Sometimes it’s actually easier, depending on the job. So be careful what u say.

I’m so disappointed that you felt the need to pick his speech apart!!

Some interesting commentary and valid points. However, as someone under a bishop who fails to lead, I agree with Harrison! You have the blessing of being in Colorado and under an awesome bishop. But there are too many bishops, including mine, that provide weak leadership and do little to encourage faithful Catholics.

You're wrong on the bill. It's implicitly stated that you will go to jail if you speak out. Harrison is right and is bringing light to what the laity has felt strongly for a long time. Overall this was a bad take and I don't know why we're so critical of the few brave Catholics to talk about things like this. Good job Harrison.

Harrison did a fantastic job with only 20 minutes. TLM has changed my relationship with God more than anything else in my 60+ years. “The Body of our Lord Jesus Christ preserve thy soul unto life everlasting. Amen”. I highly recommend it.

@RealLifeCatholic

2 ай бұрын

I think it’s great to recommend it if you love it. Harrison went much further than that.

@gracem6943

2 ай бұрын

@@RealLifeCatholic so what? He’s right.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

He has to talk his book by defending the New order

@roberthiguera6828

2 ай бұрын

I believe Butker is right about the TLM!! Lex Orandi Lex Crendi!!

@gracem6943

2 ай бұрын

@@roberthiguera6828 💯. Countless souls have been lost since Vatican 2. It’s by the grace of God that I see the Truth. He will take all that we have suffered and bring about a greater good. Come Lord Jesus Come 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Chris needs to take his own advise and be prudent. Didnt Jesus say Pharisees and scribes and not name them individually while critizing them? Theres alot bs here Chris. The Latin Mass subject was you just putting words in his mouth. "So what your saying is?"

Chris, thanks for reading all comments and responding. Here’s my 2cents worth. HB spoke a passionate speech that’s obviously caused fireworks, but if it has us thinking, kudos for this. I didn’t agree with some of his points, but I’m not stuck on them either. For example , I’m sorry if some of our stellar priests/ bishops felt personally attacked. His broad sweeping statement here wasn’t justified. I’m not on the same page with a few other statements made either. HOWEVER, I felt HB said some extremely courageous comments that were spot on. The Biden (what a Catholic embarrassment) comment and the Pride remark should be applauded. Let’s pat him on the back here. Actually let’s just celebrate a kid willing to speak his faith and take heat for it. How refreshing! Loved his passion, loved his guts. We need more Enthusiastic young Catholics! Can we at least celebrate his love of Christ and our beautiful faith?!!33:09

It was the best speech I've ever heard! The nitpicking is too much! I believe he was 99 percent right on everything, although I do believe that there are some good clergy and I'm glad that you gave them credit. The only one that ever gave a perfect speech was Jesus.

@jerryaltermatt5583

2 ай бұрын

Yes, and one of Jesus' perfect speeches was Matthew 23. I'm sure if youtube were around then, there would be those wise analysts taking to the internet to show just how imprudent he was.

Okay, Chris, you said you would read all these comments. If that is true, you will see that many, MANY people are calling you out for falsely accusing Butker for things he didn't say. If you are a man of integrity, we expect to see a follow-up video from you with at least a clarification if not an apology.

@sozonpv

2 ай бұрын

It would be better if he made this a private video. I wish Chris the best, but this is such a divisive take it's a bad reflection and thus less people will care to consume his better media content.

IMHO Butkers courageous stand is miraculous. Your critiques, fell flat and defensive. I found especially revealing that you had no praise for him in your summary. You offered to write his next speech. If you followed your requirement to explain every detail to support his claims it will likely be 8 hrs long. I hope you can reflect longer on the message and not on the "punctuation". VR

Disappointed in your comments. Sad. Harrison did a great job in his speech

Two thumbs up for Butker! He was right on the bishops. They are silent as our culture goes to hell. Abortion is primary example number one. A Catholic president promotes abortion up to the moment of birth and no action is taken. Professional Catholic speakers won't call this out because the bishops would keep them from speaking in their dioceses. God bless Harrison Butker for his example who put everything on the line for the Lord. Pray for our bishops to be courageous moral leaders.

I was not confused about anything Harrison said ❤

@lisaweidenbenner5295

2 ай бұрын

AMEN!!!!

There are good bishops yes ...like Bishop Joseph Strickland, Bishop Charles Chaput and I'm sure when he talked about the "bishops" he is referring to the bishops who are silent about the current pope's ambiguous teachings...but there are who are well known supporters of this heretical teachings: cardinal mcelroy, cardinal cupich, etc.

He was very brave at speaking what he thinks, and that's not the way of the World today. Congratulations for speaking on behalf of so many of us

@miamaria333

2 ай бұрын

That's the problem

You're just wrong, Chris. 1. It is completely okay to call out priests and bishops. If he singled out a priest or bishop, he would've been condemned for doing that as well. 2. As a practicing Catholic, you have to 100% believe that it is immoral for a wife or mother to work in the workforce unless there's a GRAVE reason, and only a grave reason. 3. NFP is 100% used as a Catholic contraceptive, and it is only supposed to be used for GRAVE reasons. Not for when you have the money, or when you think you're ready. Please, you are misinforming people on the actual teachings of the church. The exceptions that the church gives are supposed to be for GRAVE reasons and that's it. They have become the norm because no one is consistently opposing the dangerous abuses that the laity make.

Ouch, Chris. You came off a bit righteous. And nitpikky. I admire Butger’s courage and faithfulness to God. He is a good example of evangelizing and his humility is appealing. . So what, he said things you don’t agree with.

@SamGerdano-bo8kf

2 ай бұрын

Btw the separation of church and state isn’t in the first amendment nor anywhere in the constitution.

@mariac4602

2 ай бұрын

I really appreciated Chris’ nuanced response. He didn’t attack but he was clear on where the speaker got things wrong. I admire Chris for speaking up.

@natnat8199

2 ай бұрын

I think Chris did an excellent job commenting in a balanced, mature and thoughtful way on Butger’s speech. I found it refreshing.

Chris, I admire your work. I've been following your ministry for a while. I particularly like the series you filmed, "Real Life Catholic." Thank you for the work you do. In this particular instance, it may have been better for you not to say anything. Remember the words of Our Lord, "do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you." Social media is a culture of its own. The Church has yet have to grapple with this unchartered, relatively new territory. Your words can be misconstrued or sound uncharitable. Harrison is facing a ferocious persecution. Let us send him our support, prayers and let us all pray that the Lord strengthen us with the virtue of fortitude that we may say the things that have to be said and the prudence to know when to say them and how.

Harrison admitted that he didn’t want to do the speech. He admitted that he wasn’t a professional speaker. He was being obedient to the leader he respected, the president of Benedictine College and his conscience. He was honest and speaking from the heart, and said a lot of things that many many many Catholics wish would be said more often. I think Chris is totally wrong here for nit picking and even taking Harrison out of context and putting words in his mouth that he did not say. Close to detraction, especially if Harrison didn’t mean some of the things that Chris read into and interpreted. This rant was not prudent and very unwise. Disappointed. 🙏

Sorry, Chris. You just lost me there. Nice to be safe in our comfort zone. Inflammatory? Lack of prudence? Well! It was a balanced statement. It was a wake up call for Catholics esp for influencers like you, playing it safe like bishops.

Here's what other clergy had to say re HB speech: - Bishop Paprocki (Springfield, IL): kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2ScuamapMieqKQ.htmlsi=qEawENjY8loEvRm5 - humbly accepts criticisms of bishops - Archbishop Cordileone (SF): kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWSAyqyiqdXah9I.htmlsi=-1XO2BxcZZG8Lyxy - zero criticisms of HB - Fr. Charles Murr: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHybsZaylaefpNo.htmlsi=m97g9caNQD314lzW - 100% agreement with HB - Fr. Donald Calloway MIC (May 23, 2024) In a statement to CNA: … “I loved the speech!” “His speech was inspiring and what the woke culture needs to hear. He exhibited real, authentic Catholic manhood. Good for him. I have no problem with anything he said. I wish more said it, especially clergy. God bless him. I look forward to meeting him. I loved it so much I went out and bought his jersey!"

I think for many, Butker's speach was motivating. Wrt to generalizations, such as asking bishops to be more vocal, I think Butker would be quick to agree with Chris that there are great bishops (Butker quoted one earlier in the speach), but Chris failed to acknowledge that there are some that need the same encouragement that many laypeople got from Butker's speach. Perhaps Butker's blunt words are what they needed to hear?

Quit being offended for your friend priests and friend bishops. As you said yourself, it’s you who is assuming he means all in each category

The problem is the majority of the time the "grave reason" people dont want kids today is because they want a vacation to Europe and there dog eats premium food.

@maryangelica5319

2 ай бұрын

i don't think this is true to be honest, at least among couples who actually use NFP

@joannspellman3372

2 ай бұрын

@@maryangelica5319I practiced NFP and began with what was clearly a grave reason, but it works very well and was a temptation to not be as generous to God as I could have been. I am not saying it was sinful, just that it can be a test and not fully sure to this day how well I did. I am at great peace however that I was doing the best I could at the time and God understands that.

@Jeffotos

2 ай бұрын

No, it’s because feminism told women to get college loan debt during their prime child bearing years. They should wait until later, when their kids start school.

@ericlepanto4201

2 ай бұрын

Life is a battle against being selfish. Without the Triune God in the home, a love relationship will be tainted or fizzle out. Many couples contracept out of fear and lack of trust of God and their spouse.

@lisaweidenbenner5295

2 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!!!!!

Chris, overall I agree with your comments. With that said I, a Catholic Priest, share Harrison's frustration with the overwhelming silence of our Bishops on moral issues. One specific example: during the 2020 election campaign for president, the Catholic candidate publicly endorsed a gender transition for an young child. This took place during the town hall that replaced the second debate. This was a public statement. To my knowledge, not a single Bishop condemned this statement. Sadly our bishops are not defending the Faith as they should. God bless you for the work you are doing.

@sleepinglioness5754

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for addressing this. His speech was being given to a Catholic audience, comprised of savvy young people who are pretty much, if not fully aware of what is happening in the Church today. Anyone who keeps up with the current happenings knows that he was not addressing or making reference to all Priests, Bishops or Cardinals. Unfortunately, it's the clerics who are speaking up that are getting cancelled, fired or kicked out on the street. The backlash he is receiving is from liberal minded Catholics and non-Catholics.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

And novus ordo/ Vatican 2 apologists... Who unwittingly enable/promote the ongoing revolution.

@annebrandrud447

2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for your nuanced commentary. Agree w each point; not publicly criticizing clergy, TLM not inherently superior but 1 of 24 valid rites and Natural Family Planning is a great gift 2 Church & world. A bigger problem is it’s one if our beloved church’s best kept secrets. Agree 2 w what he got right, speaking truth courageously re ultimate importance of vocation over career. Thank you, Chris!

Just because something is not explicit in the language of a bill does not mean that people will not interpret it in the manner Butker explained. He said is "could land you in jail," not that it "would land you in jail." So the woke bill very well could lead to persecution. It's happened before...the starting of a slippery slope. We get the theological reasoning that it was our sins as a human race that put Christ on the cross, but that's not the point Butker is trying to make. His statement on this does not lend to any loss of credibility.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

Stefanie would be far better served to reflect upon the false teaching of the new order that the Judas people are our elder Brothers in the faith.

@donnahalsted7718

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree with your point . As we see people jailed for peacefully praying near an abortion mill, we can see people jailed for any woke perception of "breaking a law" now days. So we must bravely choose to do what's right regardless of the consequences.

@generic_account2138

2 ай бұрын

​​@@user-md8cg1om5wthink of it this way they are our elder Brothers like Cain was the elder brother of Abel. A murderous, jealous lot who offer a lesser sacrifice rejected by God.

@titomontes9670

2 ай бұрын

@@donnahalsted7718 Agreed!

Chris, you set up a few straw man arguments in your critique of Harrison Butker.... I do not believe that he dissed NFP (The Church says that couples can practice periodic abstinence for serious reasons.) or denied the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass. Citing your many priest and bishop "friends," you may be more clericalist that most laity and fail to appreciate how scandalized many of us are by clerical failure to defend the sanctity of human life and marriage/family.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

It appears Mr Stephanie's livelihood is dependent upon being in the good graces of the institutional hierarchy, so his attack video is not surprising.

@littlerock5256

2 ай бұрын

Butker: If he's not referring to NFP, what is he referring to?

@jerryaltermatt5583

2 ай бұрын

@@littlerock5256 There are two ways in which he could be referring to NFP: As it's taught by the Magisterium and as it's actually practiced by 95% of Catholics.

@littlerock5256

2 ай бұрын

@@jerryaltermatt5583 And what is the difference between the two?

@jerryaltermatt5583

2 ай бұрын

@@littlerock5256 One is morally permissible, the other is, well, morally indistinguishable from birth control.

I listened to both Harrison Butker’s speech and your commentary. I agree with most of what you said with just a few exceptions. He is younger, so he will grow wiser and more prudent, but I think his statements on NFP were in reference to people who use it as birth control. This IS against Church teaching. We discuss NFP with our engaged couples and I am familiar with dos and don’ts. He wasn’t as clear as he could have been. I also want to comment on the TLM. Denver is blessed to have a good shepherd and leader as bishop. The masses we have been to when we visit our son there are reverent and Jesus focused. However, there are so many Norvus Ordo parishes in other dioceses (including mine) that are more horizontally focused with talking in the sanctuary, irreverent treatment of the Eucharist, clapping at the end of mass (like we are there to be entertained), and actions that are way, way worse, making the mass valid, but illicit. I have left mass in tears more than once over the treatment of our Lord’s Holy Mass. The Norvus Ordo was supposed to be the Traditional Latin Mass in the vernacular with Latin prayers, organ music or chant, communion rails with reception kneeling and on the tongue. This was abused in the aftermath of Vatican II spearheaded by Bugnini. Even Pope Paul VI stated, “the smoke of Satan has entered the Vatican. ALL previous changes in the Latin rite developed organically. This is my wheelhouse. I have been reading and listening to talks about this topic for years. Oh, and there are 23, not 33 rites in the Catholic Church, with the norvus ordo (overall) being the least reverent. So, I can see his point there, because the Latin rite is all over the map when you consider what we are supposed to be doing there. Sorry such a long comment

Chris, this was an unnecessary critique of a guy who said himself "I'm not a public speaker," who was asked to give a commencement speech. I found it nit-picky and unnecessarily critical of some key points. It's easy to second guess. Hindsight is always easier. Give him credit for his boldness and don't infer what he didn't say. I think offering some more charitable suggestions would have been far more helpful instead of saying "you're wrong" here and there. He's not a Catholic public speaker. You are. He's not a theologian. He's a kicker. Living his faith as best he can. I wish you wouldn't have offered this critique in the manner in which you did.

I agree with everything, everything Harrison Butker said!!!

Given how much nonsense goes on at many NO Masses, and how hard it is to find a reverent NO Mass even in a good diocese, is it any wonder that he would recommend the TLM?

Bishop comment....It's a good idea to look at who Butker's bishop is. He may be talking about him. Our diocese (same as Butker's) do a LOT of virtue signaling and it curls my stomach.

In hindsight, it seems like he could have used a little more prudence in some of his choices of words and phrases. But taken as a whole it was an excellent, timely, important speech. Let’s not let the strength of this speech be diluted by hyper analysis.

Chris...you are so wrong in your rationale about the TLM...the TLM has changed over 2000 years, but very little. The changes were perfections. It's not about "changes" or "validity" or the "number of rites." It's about the abomination that is the N.O. and how it has opened up innumerable liturgical abuses. The N.O. mass is valid...no one questions that, but the setting of the "what" has been Protestantized, and it has been a very big cause as to why so many have lost faith and left the Church. I do not have enough time to go into this... Stop trying to be "the Bill O'Reilly" of the Catholic "content creators."

Sadly enough to be disappointed hearing your comments! You have been confusing Catholic teaching (which Mr. Butker) said with courage and without apologetic truth.

Trying to poke holes for clicks

As a Catholic millennial woman, I’ve observed a significant trend among young Catholics, ages 18 to 37, gravitating toward traditional practices like the Latin Mass and more conservative values. I discovered the TLM as a freshman in college and many young people are embracing trad values. This younger cohort is notably more conservative than previous generations, particularly compared to the "boomer" generation within the Church. Many students at this college seem to resonate with these traditional views, and I found Harrison’s recent speech on this topic to be profoundly insightful, addressing critical issues for women and the Church in modern society. I personally know 15 young Catholic women under 25 with college degrees who are now married and full-time homemakers. This lifestyle is becoming increasingly popular among young Catholics who are drawn to the beauty and tradition of Latin Mass parishes, making a notable return to authentic Catholicism. To me, traditional Catholicism embodies the true essence of our faith. As Pope Benedict XVI once said, "An authentic interpretation of the Bible must always be in harmony with the faith of the Catholic Church." Harrison's speech echoed the sentiments of many Catholics who embrace these traditional values. He shared these views with a traditional Catholic audience of young people who are increasingly adopting conservative perspectives. I applaud his views and his speech, which resonated deeply with its intended audience. Although his speech gained widespread attention due to his NFL celebrity status, it was primarily meant for a niche audience. His words reflect the Church's enduring support for motherhood as a fundamental pillar of family and society. Traditional Catholicism, to me, represents true, authentic Catholicism. As Pope Benedict XVI once stated, "An authentic interpretation of the Bible must always be in harmony with the faith of the Catholic Church." Additionally, the Catechism of the Catholic Church emphasizes, "The Church's tradition faithfully reflects the teachings of Christ and His Apostles" (CCC 78).

Don’t usually click on your stuff but I gave you a shot. Lesson learned. My instincts were right on. I won’t click on C Stefanick.

1) He said there was nothing "natural" about Catholic birth control. You're judging his orthodoxy on this issue based on a single hyperbolic statement, which is a little unfair. Even so, the statement taken alone is actually more correct than incorrect because the "grave" part of the reason for using NFP is missing both in practice and teaching. The criticism of NFP as most Catholics conceive it (no pun intended) is justified.

Hey Chris. I believe you made a few valid points but I felt like you threw one too many jabs.... For instance " not everyone marries someone who is making 5 million dollars" and ... " As a kicker that gets good money to talk, I would have worded it better"... And " I want to write your next speech". Anyway I agree with Butker on everything. He stood up and professed his faith without fear. Thank you for the video. I enjoy your channel. God bless 🙏

@RealLifeCatholic

2 ай бұрын

Thx for watching and for the thoughtful reply. 👍

@CitySlickerButtKicker

2 ай бұрын

Let him critique it however way he want. I think he brought in good points, and unlike many Catholic talking figures, he brought up nuances the others didnt.

@AdAstra_PerAspera5

2 ай бұрын

I actually think the jabs were necessary. Overall I liked Butkers speech but it left me uneasy. So many of my colleagues praised it and I just couldn’t put my finger on what bugged me about it. This video really helped me make sense of Butkers great heart and acknowledge his room for growth in public speaking. I hope he sees this video and starts to understand applying tact when addressing a population in a very different situation than himself as an NFL player.

@keithwiebe1787

2 ай бұрын

@@AdAstra_PerAspera5 Yes, he's a young man with too much money and he thinks he has all the answers. The more I delve into Catholic teaching on birth control etc. the more I believe it's nothing but man made rules meant to subjugate women and that is so morally wrong. Yet, some women lap it up.

@o.o.2255

2 ай бұрын

What is meant to subjugate women, the Catholic teaching that birth control pills are prohibited or the Catholic teaching on NFP? The difficult point being made on Birth Control is that it requires discipline, eapecially from the man, which that dying to that part of the self is actually honoring women (wives) versus what we see today are the fruits of Birth Control pills - pornography and promiscuity where identity of self and true love is disorderly defined by what us below the waist and lust.

I think too many Catholics abuse the idea of NFP as a way to avoid being fruitful and multiplying - which may have been his criticism. I also understand his point about the TLM and the lack of old-school feasts, and how the NO can often feel bland or "protestantized"

My friends and I have been talking about the importance of coming out of the closet as Christian. It's an important witness to the world, and an important accountability for us.

I know your intent was to evaluate the speech but I think the negative things you said were unnecessary especially because Mr. Butker did not go into detail but made blanket statements as he only had so much time to deliver the speech. Everyone knows we have great and not so great clergy. I think your podcast would have been better served by positive statements about what you liked. You brought negativity into a speech that had good intentions. And by the way, there are several large petitions circulating supporting Harrison.

@brickbrow

2 ай бұрын

There's truth to be said that if you can't develop an idea that you exclude it so that there isn't ambiguity. The reason Butker should have excluded some of the topics is exactly as you said, they were blanket statements. He also spoke with an authority on some things that was inappropriate. It's not just about encouragement, it's about Truth. Accountability is a form of Mercy when done well, and that's all Chris was doing.

@user-md8cg1om5w

2 ай бұрын

It's quite understandable that an apologist for the new order needs to defend such a direct attack. The New order is threatened by the traditional Catholic religion.

@littlerock5256

2 ай бұрын

@@user-md8cg1om5w It is my understanding that Butker attends FSSP and they accept the new order.

@kittyblaine7917

2 ай бұрын

Well said…thank you these were my thoughts as well…not to mention that with this short speech using the platform he has been granted has stirred up debates that should be happening…He broke the silence and I’m grateful ….

@miamaria333

2 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with you!! We KNOW the background of the negative comments Chris professes to make here. Harrison did not need to disect his comments. We know of the clergy he speaks of, and of the ones that are good and holy. He spoke many truths and was SO courageous to do so and stirred up a nest!! Finally, someone " stepped up and spoke up" with the truth everyone else seems to step over. It was time, actually over time, that someone said the obvious!!! I only wish you, Chris, had stepped up and put that "perfect speech" out there so that no one would be upset or confused or scandalized and not just ride on his coat tails. He's a hero in my eyes. He's such a blessed young holy man and a member of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, thank God, who had the courage to speak up and speak out like some of our courageous canceled priests and hierarchy. He's in great company❤ I for one, loved it and say thank you, Harrison, for saying what some of us think as well!!

Disappointed with your misrepresentation of several things he said. He was speaking specifically about his wife being a homemaker, and also quoting her own words on her life beginning at motherhood. He also does talk about his own vocation of being a husband and father (you said he didn't). Also, at no point did he question the validity of the Novus Ordo. To encourage people to attend the TLM is not wrong and is NOT tantamount to saying the Novus Ordo is invalid. Also, validity is a low bar and is not how people seek a liturgy where they seek to worship God as reverently as possible. There cannot be anything wrong about encouraging people to celebrate one valid rite over another, draconian sensibilities not withstanding.

@josephprenosil8893

2 ай бұрын

Did you even listen to his commentary or even listen to the speech?

Thanks Chris, The best I obtained from Harrison Butker's speech, it gave me HOPE. Let's fight for our belief in Jesus, let us work hard to deepen our faith. Let us read the Bible and build our relationship with Jesus Christ. The Church seems so weak to me and when the Church is weak, it means prayers do not get answered. We have become too much a part of this world. Our Church is dead spiritually. The Church feels like a private sector of a large corporation working for bigger numbers in membership and more money. Matthew 6:32 says: "But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall be yours as well." I truly loved Mr. Butker's speech, and most of the world also seemed to love it, except for the woke. I hope our Church will learn from this speech. The world is screaming for the truth.

Chris, I just heard Harrison's speech. It was a prophetic witness to truth.

The church has said couples must have just reasons for the use of nfp. This is not talked about enough by Catholics who promote nfp.

what a wonderful man HB is - my kind of guy

He’s my new hero and his ladies jersey is sold out and I’m only upset because I have to wait for my jersey!!

You're done when you uphold MLK as the standard. Nonsense. Read his theological papers yourself. Familiarize yourself with his closest confidents. He was a political activist using the title of “Reverend”. His words and actions not consistent with Christian teaching. Next.

26:01 I didn't interpret his words as a condemnation of NFP, though you may be right that it was. I took his words as a condemnation of contraception and of what NFP practitioners sometimes call a "contraceptive mentality" -- i.e., avoiding pregnancy (even if by licit means like NFP) for selfish reasons.

Hi Chris, I have always liked and respected your podcasts and videos but I am sadly very disappointed in you today. Your nit-picking of this speech has shown how wishy-washy our Church has become and especially our bishops and priests. How you can defend the hierarchy and clergy is beyond me!!! Our bishops are cowards and I don't care what your experience with bishops has been. How many bishops showed up at the Dodgers game last year??? Were you there? I never thought I would hear you play it safe!! As for "prudence" he spoke Catholic teaching to a CATHOLIC audience. You have shown yourself to be the "lukewarm" Christian Jesus speaks about. And as far as criticizing Pope Francis, Catholics are perfectly allowed to speak their opinion. Pope Francis, in my opinion, is an apostate.