just subscribed. your productions are great. your approach to northern climate agriculture and land stewardship is remarkable. thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with interested viewers like myself. I'm a new market gardener in western mass. I look forward to watching and learning. Have a blessed and prosperous year. Best wishes. Charles.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

+Charles Hammer - thanks a bunch for the kind words! I'm really still learning in so many ways so its just a lot of fun to share what is making sense as it comes and let folks take it or leave it. Its really reassuring to know people find it helpful...

I also found and subscribed only recently. Glad you're sort of my zone... but on the other coast :) Your information is really, really good... can't even think of a question I have that you didn't address.

This is excellent information! Looking forward (hopefully) to a follow up on these methods. It would be great to see the process of digging them out of the bed and potting them.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

I'll plan to share notes on how it all works out. It's a bit experimental at least with the honey, and this is a new bottom heat bed, but the system works well for me in general...

Awesome video, i've been following yr videos and nursery for about 2 years now and its really wonderful to see how it changes in scale and in design! Few questions- did you hydrate the rooting medium at all before you put the cuttings in? Is there a need at this time of the season to cover the cutting bed for humidity retention or will something like elder root faster than it will dry out? Thanks!

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

Good question, always there are things in retrospect I wish I mentioned... Yes, you want the medium to be nice and moist... Not sodden, but good and moist. The sand at the bottom helps a lot with that. Its wetted down quite a bit before the cuttings go in, and I monitor it to make sure it doesn't dry out... Thanks for following the channel!!!

@letsfolk

7 жыл бұрын

EdibleAcres Thanks! I'll keep watching- very very inspiring stuff.

Liked it so much watched 3 times and gave 2 thumbs up 😁

2-4 year, minimal investment of time, but huge potential. I wish I had an acre...

Great video. My mother would take cuttings from different plants, stick them in plain water and they rooted fine. Was she just lucky or could she have added something, but never told me.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

We've had that work, too! Sometimes the 'trick' is to change the water often so its fresh...

Thanks so much!!

Stole your honey rooting hormone replacement idea, and used it in my latest video. I credited you, of course.

This is when they say, LIKE. A. BOSS.

thanks for the info. Looking forward to the results on those peach trees.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I filled the bed with other cuttings and forgot to get the peach! I'll sneak at least a few in so I can say if it worked or not. I tried it with apples and they are already callousing and looking like they want to root! Imagine being able to skip grafting entirely!

@miqf914

4 жыл бұрын

@@edibleacres Sean, what were the results you ended up getting from the apple and peach? Did you try summer cuttings like you mentioned in another comment?

@charlesdevier8203

10 ай бұрын

@@miqf914 I know that this is an older post but... the hardwood cuttings do work. I usually place about 8 hardwood cuttings in a 1/2 gallon pot - maybe 2 or 3 will root and grow. As I type this, I can see two of my peach trees that are growing out of 5 foot tree tubes, almost a additional 5 feet above the tubes. My cost = $0

Cool lesson, now on the peach, without the root stalk, will that peach actually grow well? My understanding with most fruit is that without proper root stalk to graft on, your fruit tree cuttings will end up blighted or vulnerable to other soil based diseases.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

Well... Peaches, even when on excellent root stock, tend to not be a very long lived tree. So my thinking is that if this system works with them, and I can get many many trees rooted without much effort (skipping the grafting). I'd be happy to explore that as a way to get more trees going quickly, and have longer lived, multi-generational trees growing in between or near them to take over when the peaches die. I often plant peaches with paw paw and american persimmon to the north of them so that when the peach dies there are nice trees to replace them!

Bit of a novice here, but do you worry about rootstocks at all?

Thanks for sharing this setup and for the update videos! I'm trying a similar setup and have a few questions I wonder if you've experimented with already. I have bottom heat in a shelf system with grow lights - do hardwood cuttings root best indoors with lots of light, or shade/high ambient light, or dark/low ambient light? Is there bottom drainage in this rooting bed, or does the water just drain to the sandy bottom then evaporate or remain as a saturated soil zone? Can hardwood cuttings wait before being rooted? I thought so but find they get desiccated & won't root if I let them sit too long (>few days?) after cutting. Is there any preparation or special storage you do between cutting & planting, aside from a pre-planting soak? Super cool to see these little sticks grow into shrubs & trees! Much thanks

@edibleacres

5 жыл бұрын

I prep hardwood cuttings and stick them ASAP. NEVER let them sit for multiple days, as far as I'm concerned... If you can't take the cuttings and process them/stick them ASAP, you can put them in fresh water with no chlorine that you change each day up until you are ready to take next steps. Drainage is there, in the form of an 'overflow' on one side that can drip out if it gets too wet. but I water pretty minimally, just check that it is like a damp sponge. Most dormant hardwood cuttings develop a callous and first roots in this condition, I've found: Warm (74F approx) temperatures at root base and bottom stem under soil line and cool (50F ish or even cooler) above soil, in a dark space. Think mild winter with warm soil conditions. Light is after root development and sprouting begins. Light/heat above ground too early could trigger sprouting before roots happen...

@CovilleR

5 жыл бұрын

@@edibleacres thanks for the info & fast reply! That all makes sense.

great ideas❤ good work dude:)

Do you do any seaberry? I had a bunch of cuttings I took, but I couldn't get them to send roots. I don't know if it was something on my end or if it was something about the plants. I had them in continually moist sand, but when they started to put out a lot of vegetative growth they never put out roots, and eventually all wilted and died. Too warm perhaps? They were in a window sill and our house stays close to 70.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

Seaberry is a super tough one. I've had rooting with them but pretty minimal. I'm understanding that they do best from softwood cuttings, and one person suggested softwood cuttings in spring water with a bubbler gives them high rooting success, so I plan to explore that this summer. I wish you luck, share notes on what you end up finding works for you! :)

Curious as to whether you watered the perlite/peat to start or whether you have to water it again after the fact? If the former, how much of a soak/mist do you give it?

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

I watered it pretty thoroughly at the beginning, actually a little too much as it dripped out of the overflow on the side... But that initial thorough watering should coast it along for a while before I have to again. I check every few days to see if it needs another watering.

I went through your updates and didn't see anything about the peach tree rootings. Did it work? can you root trees as cuttings?

@edibleacres

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this... I'm afraid they didn't work out. This fall, however, I worked with a great propagator who had excellent success rooting siberian peach with softwood cuttings taken in July/August, potted in deep pots and misted a few times a day. I saw the results and they were impressive, so it is absolutely possible with them, just not with what I offered.

Is the peach tree grafted onto a different rootstock? Is that something you even concerned about? Are all of the cuttings your making for this technique being made now? Thanks!

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

As we speak! Well, today, and then another few hundred tomorrow... The peach was from eating a peach while walking in the garden and pushing the pit in the ground... Nature can be easy sometimes. I'm just interested to see if it'll root. I have my doubts, but its super worth it!

What control temp you are running it at? How cool the garage has to be to prevent cuttings leafing out prematurely (especially with some heat rising from the bottom)? Would 50F be too warm? Is membrane water tight and how do you water them without water accumulation at the bottom? thank you

@edibleacres

3 жыл бұрын

Garage is just a bit warmer than outside, so it freezes sometimes, roughly 40F or so... Cooler is better within reason. Membrane is watertight, but laid out so one side has a 'drain' where it is folded down and has a tray under it in case of excess water, but that is easily avoided with conservative watering.

In place of commercial rooting products, use willow mixed into the honey water. :)

@edibleacres

6 жыл бұрын

Has that worked well for you? Thanks for sharing.

Hi Sean, I tried to replicate your set up this Spring with a couple of differences - the box was outdoors but underneath my front porch, so open to a little light and wind, but not to precipitation. For the medium above the sand layer I used a mix of perlite and coffee bean chaff. I stuck a variety of cuttings - currants, haskaps, elders, arctic kiwis, grapes - the last day of March. Had the heat cable set for 71F. Now in mid May have 1-2% success across all species of any root formation/callusing. Not sure what went wrong, maybe the coffee bean chaff was problematic (too acidic?) or it got too cold on the tops vs. the bottoms (several days in April got well below freezing. Any thoughts? It was definitely an experiment, but figured the currants and elders at least would be rooting.

@edibleacres

5 жыл бұрын

only 1-2% success? I wonder what happened. Coffee bean chaff maybe quite acidic or imbalanced? Currants, elders and grapes should have rooted near 100% for you... Well, there's softwood season coming up so thats good news!

@john4820

5 жыл бұрын

I will try a different medium next year and see how that goes. Just goes to show that having a diversity of propagation systems going is important in case something goes awry in one of them. Thanks!@@edibleacres

@ttb1513

2 жыл бұрын

@@john4820 Did you figure anything out as a difference maker to success? It’s fun, but obviously more fun with success. Thanks.

So you can use honey water in place of rooting hormone then? I've never heard of that before. Very informative! I'm interested your elderberry and black current plants. Will you have pricing and information soon? We can probably even travel to you since we're not all that far.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

The honey water thing is still experimental. I should have been clearer with that, sorry... But rooting hormone is a rough deal as far as I'm learning so I'm happy to experiment! The elders and currants are normally $15 a piece when they are potted up. More details on that to come, and we'll be having plant sales all spring and early summer. If you are on our email list you'll hear all about 'em!

@neiallswheel

7 жыл бұрын

EdibleAcres I couldn't get any rooting powder, found quite a few vids where folks use new growth from willow, a natural root encourager apparently. which I also don't have in my garden. Lol. great idea with the heat cable & of course the honey

@ThePlantBasedHomestead

7 жыл бұрын

I'm not on your email list, so I'll have to sign up. Thank you!

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we'll see how the honey pans out. Seems promising from what I've read. I'm hoping it works and I can never get rooting hormone again. I'll plan to do an update video to share notes...

@tonyl6218

5 жыл бұрын

Rooting hormone doesn't have to be isolbutyl based or even acetaminophen based...Cinnamon, honey and even a willow tree "mash" works just as well. Lots of vids on that...I've used 7 different kinds...Most success was with willow water.

I have found that if you get an hors d'oeuvres hotplate and Goodwill you can make a small one very easily.

@edibleacres

4 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a good simple solution.

Clever idea 👍🤩👵🏻👩‍🌾❣️

I just came across this. Do you have to water this a lot because of evaporation?

@edibleacres

10 ай бұрын

Not a lot, it's pretty cold out and once a week or so is more than engouh

try a willow bark tea for growing hormones

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

Have you tried it? I didn't have great success with it, but would love to hear of folks with first hand experience that has been positive and how they did it!

That's the JumpStart Digital Heat Meat Thermometer/Controller by Hydrofarm

@edibleacres

4 жыл бұрын

Yep!

For the honey water as rooting hormone, about how much water to honey? Great idea!

@edibleacres

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have specific notes for you, but generally it may be 1 heaping tablespoon in a warm pint of water... Roughly. Push and pull numbers to see what feels like the best fit for you!

@travisdavis1042

2 жыл бұрын

@@edibleacres that’s enough info to work on. Thank you. 🙌🏼

I like how he makes economic arguments in homestead ag terms.

Good video but I'm a little bit skeptical of not using rooting hormone for hardwood cuttings. What is your successful rooting rate? I strive to not use chemicals as well but in my opinion a dusting of it on the exterior of a cutting that will turn into a big tree may not pose a risk at all.

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

We'll be learning this season. I've read some good reviews of it as a practice, so it seems like a decently supported practice. I'll share notes on how it works out. I hear you on the rooting hormone not being such a big deal when you look at how many plants you can make, but someone could also say that using a tiny bit of roundup isn't that bad if its helping those plants get established... It's a slippery slope. I'm trying to maintain traction!

@benbishop7775

7 жыл бұрын

I feel you on that. My only advice is don't let dogma get in the way of your propagation efforts and creating an abundant supply of trees. I don't use round up either but I would if it meant the success of a huge native forest for example.

I can't tell how the cord is attached to the heating cable. Does it simply clip on to the cable?

@edibleacres

6 жыл бұрын

The heating cable has the electric cord built into it. It is simpler perhaps than it looks in the video..

@veefriend4201

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, I see. Goody. That, then, indicates that it's also attached to the thermostat device. Thanks so much for your reply. It really is a useful video.

Hi. I was wondering when you take the cuttings off bottom heat and move them to a place they can grow for the year?

@edibleacres

4 жыл бұрын

As soon as they look like they have hearty and healthy callousing and rooting beginning I try to move them on.

@joshuagreenslade8942

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. The other thing I was wondering is can you start them on bottom heat in the late fall once they go dormant or do you need to wait until spring? Similarly, some people say to take cuttings in late fall and store them in the fridge until spring. Is there a reason they can’t be on bottom heat all winter forming roots?

@joshuagreenslade8942

4 жыл бұрын

I moved a blueberry to the nursery bed this morning and it has nice roots :) I was wondering if the nursery bed should be shaded or can it be full sun? It’s not too hot here yet...50-70 degrees

@joshuagreenslade8942

4 жыл бұрын

EdibleAcres hi there. My hardwood cuttings that were green and had green stems and new growth...the stems are turning brown... am I overwatering? Is there too much humidity? Have you seen that?

maybe I missed it, but what is your water to honey ratio for rooting mix? how did it work?

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

Very informal, just a little spoonful melted into warm water, stirred and let to sit until it cools. Then I would put little bundles of cuttings in and let it soak a bit before sticking. Somethings didn't work amazingly, but I've gotten about 300+ cuttings rooted set out in the garden now so I'm happy for round one!

@maryedmo7798

7 жыл бұрын

EdibleAcres awesome! thanks!

Did these peach cuttings grow any roots with this setup?

@edibleacres

6 жыл бұрын

Nope! Oh well. I should do an update. The other things worked.

@panoskar8952

6 жыл бұрын

Ιncluding the honey berry and sea buckthorn ?

Add me to the list of those interesting in hearing how the honey-water turns out.

Use rooting hormone for the peach. Nothing wrong with using it despite what people think. It's not bad for people or the environment. Plants produce them all naturally!

What is the recipe for the honey water?

@edibleacres

6 жыл бұрын

I don't have a particular recipe. I just add a nice spoonful of quality raw honey into warm water and stir it until its all mixed in. Like you're making a very sweet warm tea...

@maryedmo7798

5 жыл бұрын

Did the honey work?

How many days does it take to root cuttings on heat mat?

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

In this setup I could/should expect 2 weeks to a month. The thing to remember is I'm not growing them in here beyond forming the start of roots. Once they are making clear signs of being ready to root, and showing little baby roots, I can move them out to pots or nursery rows and replace them with the next round of plants... Its a revolving door. I'll make an update video soon I think, as the Elderberries and some black currants are already showing signs of being ready!

@rvk671

7 жыл бұрын

EdibleAcres ok, actually i propagated some apple rootstoks over heat mat with polythene covered dome,in 7-8 days there were full leaves ,so i removed the polythene but to my utmost surprise all leaves died in single day ,I am totally confused regarding this

@edibleacres

7 жыл бұрын

WIth this system the key is warm rooting area, cool tops. If its warm all the way around, they'll leaf out before they make roots and can be very very fragile in that scenario. I believe that may have been what happened to you?

@rvk671

7 жыл бұрын

EdibleAcres Ys i also think so, in how many days shall i expect the roots to come out like ths?

@bobbrawley2612

5 жыл бұрын

@@rvk671 yep I was suckered by that leafing as well . Leaves mean nothing in trying to grow roots. False flag

Are you still using this method? Seems from your recent videos you are mostly just sticking dormant hardwood cuttings in the soil and waiting for spring! Or maybe you just haven't done an update on this method in a while?

@edibleacres

2 жыл бұрын

I still do the system in this video but much less... We try more to work with natural timing on things...

Does bottom heat is necessary

@edibleacres

6 жыл бұрын

Not necessary for some things (currants, elderberry, willow, etc) but it is very helpful for things that are hard to root or that you get very low rooting percentage without.

@siaentertainment

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot