now do heaviest band of all time by actual weight.

@rockflageagle3870

3 ай бұрын

thats Slipknot by far, all past and present members weigh more than Willy Nelsons weed bag

@gggallin8279

3 ай бұрын

@@rockflageagle3870 which probably equals around one Crowbar member back in the day

@dylansmarr3254

3 ай бұрын

Bowling For Soup

@jerryrose9472

3 ай бұрын

Pretty sure you gotta add up the weight of every member and then divide by the number of band members. Or would that determine the most dense band?

@VirgoKing89

3 ай бұрын

Since Slipknot has 9 members, they’d be the heaviest band

Bo saying Metallica is heavier than Neurosis was absolutely unhinged. But he rides for Bolt Thrower and that makes up for it.

@SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG

3 ай бұрын

yeah that take hurt my head

@deadharvest29

3 ай бұрын

Yeah haha. Sometimes the hardcore guys don’t quite get what “heavy” means.

@Leave_The_Hall_69

3 ай бұрын

No it doesn't, it's an even softer stanmode

@TheTabledrumsolo

2 ай бұрын

It made me scream

@redshift912

Ай бұрын

Thanks , I don’t even have to watch this shit now

Bo has broken edge and been smoking crack! It’s the only explanation for picking Metallica over neurosis

@Nfstfu

3 ай бұрын

Came to say this about Type O Vs Deicide hahah

@paulderbyshire6953

3 ай бұрын

@@Nfstfu yeah that’s another bizarre take. He’s clearly had a malfunction

@janetteivette

2 ай бұрын

Me audibly saying “nah idk what he’s smoking” in my car while eating Taco Bell 😂

Hats off to Bo who just endures barrages of condescending cackles from Herr Young

@brinepacer

3 ай бұрын

Doesn't he always?

@down_the_local7040

7 күн бұрын

So he should. Much love to Colin, but obviously peace to the Bo soldiers out there

The shit Bo was saying about Napalm Death was a borderline hate crime

“Bo listens to all the bands discussed” challenge

Bro there’s no fucking way type o is heavier than sleep or deicide

@Nick-O-Death

7 күн бұрын

Listen to their album Dead Again. I love sleep and Deicide but Type O is almost Crowbar heavy

@ryananderson586

5 күн бұрын

14 year old girls’ favorite band cannot be heavy.

@Nick-O-Death

5 күн бұрын

@@ryananderson586 It’s okay to be wrong

matchup between neurosis and metallica, saying metallica is heavier than Neurosis is one of the most insane things i've ever heard.

@Feelthedorkness

3 ай бұрын

They are two of my all time favorite bands, Metallica would certainly win “best riffs” or “best songwriting” over Neurosis, but Neurosis tonally made some of the darkest and heaviest music ever. Through Silver and Blood is about as emotionally and musically heavy as it gets.

@Debbrasaurus

3 ай бұрын

Saw it coming from Bo lol

@gggallin8279

3 ай бұрын

@@Feelthedorknessit’s a great band and a pioneer of metal don’t get me wrong but they‘re definitely more on the dad rock side of things than being remotely close to a heavy band

@jerryrose9472

3 ай бұрын

Collin is playing it smart. He's conceding a soft ball because he knows he's gonna need that leverage down the road. I'm calling it. At some point he's gonna say "I gave you Metallica".

@paulderbyshire6953

3 ай бұрын

Absolute insanity. Bo has lost his mind and operating from a pure nostalgia point of view here.

I think influence should be moot. Metallica shouldn't go over Neurosis and in that argument Sabbath shouldn't go over Meshuggah

‘The Doorway’ by Neurosis stomps all over Metallica’s “heaviest moments” in their entire catalog. To say anything else would be ridiculous and wrong.

@paulderbyshire6953

3 ай бұрын

There’s some riffs on through silver in blood that make Metallica sound like fall out boy. I’ve never disagreed with anyone more than Bo here.

@sendhelp6349

2 ай бұрын

Metallica got the "they're my favorite band" pass over neurosis, if he was going to do that i wish he would just be up front about it rather than try and bullshit some "influence" or "they did numbers" argument

@aaronadair697

2 ай бұрын

The slow sludgy part of The Doorway might be the single heaviest moment that I've ever heard in any song

Neurosis, Meshuggah and Godflesh got done dirty but more importantly Primitive Man is #1 against Crowbar imo.

Shout out to Primitive Man who opened for Crowbar on a tour through the Heavy Southern parts of America

@just.justice96

3 ай бұрын

Why wouldn't they?

@DougMayer

3 ай бұрын

+1 that was a great tour

I think Disembowelment and Electric Wizard should’ve earned a spot on the bracket. Also, I love Type O but I don’t think there’s anyway they should’ve made it past the first round. Sleep has some of the most crushing riffs I’ve ever heard

Shout out Mortician. Didn’t even make the list

@DiamondLifer

Ай бұрын

Same with Devourment.

Its crowbar. I don’t even need to watch this. None heavier is literally on a shirt

Hate to say it because we all know I’m team Bo. But holy shit Colin was right this whole ep.

In no world is Type O heavier than Sleep.

@sacred2613

2 ай бұрын

agreed

@DoctorBoof1

2 ай бұрын

I had to check the comments for this haha, completely unhinged to say Type O is heavier

As a huuuge Napalm Death fan, Bo's ignorance to their catalogue is breaking my heart. They're more than just a grind band. Harmony Corruption is pure death metal and heavy as shit. Fear, emptiness and despair is also super groovy and heavy. Not to mention their post 2000s stuff, very experiemntal and varied, you can find punishing slow riffs and fast riffs. They're more than just "you suffer"

The only band that truly deserves the “why are they not here” discourse is Primitive Man. Suffocatingly heavy on every track

@cantbanme8971

3 ай бұрын

Lol Grief?

@MetalGearGander

3 ай бұрын

@@cantbanme8971 great band but PM is still nuclear levels of heavy

@CrookedTooth616

3 ай бұрын

I could not agree more. Seeing them live is akin to a spiritual experience.

@cantbanme8971

3 ай бұрын

@@MetalGearGander Grief are heavier

@MIKELiscrazy

3 ай бұрын

This is what I thought when I saw the bracket. I think that they are just a little more unfamiliar with that area of heavy music unfortunately. But yeah, Primitive Man is the absolute masters of HEAVY hands down

Primitive Man deserved a spot and would've won half of the 1st round matchups.

Love how much respect these guys have consistently put on Crowbar's name. They're such a great band and I feel they were definitely shit on for a few years, glad to see people repping for them more in the last five or so years. Also, Kirk would be a great interview. Heard him on Jasta's podcast and he's always entertaining and incredibly humble, got some wild stories about his experience during hurricane Katrina.

Bo I'd just like to declare that me and you are now sworn enemies due to your opinion on Neurosis.

I can't imagine how much damage *Iron Monkey* would have done in this

@paulderbyshire6953

2 ай бұрын

Yeah man! Our problem is one of the heaviest records ever made. Such an underrated band too

@joebreakerx

2 ай бұрын

@@paulderbyshire6953 just seen they recently put that and the first record on Spotify 🔥🔥

@justxcantxhatexenuff

2 ай бұрын

Iron monkey's first album is music they stole from e.h.g..true story

portal, primative man, dragged into sunlight, damaar

@galgazitgalili3416

3 ай бұрын

Damaar was fucking insane. The lore behind them makes them heavier than the other three you mentioned.

@Dead_ham

3 ай бұрын

Winter and Corrupted also shoulda been on here. I don’t really think Portal is heavy.

@yellowsaurus4895

3 ай бұрын

@@Dead_ham yeah, they have some heavy bits here and there, but generally i would say they're kinda beyond the realm of heavy and just straight up horrifying lol

31:46 SPUNCUCKED

THERE IS NO WAY NEUROSIS ISNT THE HEAVIEST OF THEIR FIRST COHORT...insane.

Like many others, Hatebreed was one of my biggest gateway bands. However, I think in terms of heaviness of music, it should've been Godflesh.

@_Captain_Benji_

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I love Satisfaction… don’t get me wrong but Hatebreed has never made an album like Streetcleaner.

@tomes3290

2 ай бұрын

Yea this one was truly insane to me

Pantera over Xibalba actually hurt me

@ceradaddygibson

3 ай бұрын

Pantera is amazing but I genuinely do not think they’re heavier than Xibalba

@official_keenie

2 ай бұрын

Same brother. I had to take a couple breaths lmao

@peautifulbenis3673

2 ай бұрын

Xibalba decision was wrong lol

@DiamondLifer

Ай бұрын

Pantera nearly invented breakdowns and groove metal. But they were also extremely heavy live.

Mortician, Bastard Noise, Primitive Man, Portal

@DiamondLifer

Ай бұрын

Yeah no Mortician is pretty nuts.

@jmsfueled

Ай бұрын

Portal is fucking heavy

@fartsniffer257

Ай бұрын

The Berzerker, Disembowelment, Fear Factory, Anal Cunt, Sanguisugabogg also could have made the list.

@fartsniffer257

Ай бұрын

The Berzerker, Disembowelment, Fear Factory, Anal Cunt, Naibomb also could have made the list.

My initial gut reaction was to put Hatebreed over Godflesh, but I think sonically Godflesh is much heavier while Hatebreed is harder. Godflesh's sound has the weight of industrial machinery crushing you, while Hatebreed is as hard as a pro fighters punch.

Bo looked legitimately upset during the type o/Deicide bit

Is Bo ok? last week he said Morbid Angel isn't heavy. Now Deicide?

I feel like compiling this bracket was pretty difficult, i'd certainly would include Nails here

bo: yes, HEAVY...palm mutes................. when i think palm mutes instantly i think chugs and breakdowns which = hard. the Deicide vs Type o Negative debate was so silly i cant think straight. and i LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE type o negative. i listen to type o negative when i want a BREAK from shit that is really heavy

@camoflagueobituaryhat

3 ай бұрын

Right?! I was losing my mind at that part.

Heavy is thy Lore that is to be Hardened.🧎🏽‍♂️

Honestly Conan barely getting a mention is border treason at this point but I get it. Cool episode once again ! For those who seek bands as heavy as Conan, I'd recommend "In the depths of R'lyeh" by Catacombs

@Lucas-ds3kb

3 ай бұрын

Agreed! They should've had a discussion on what defines heavy first. I mean... the breakdown in Battle in the Swamp... That's HEAVY . DF is the harder band, but to gloss over Conan like that is painful.

Hate that I’m being this guy but need the Acacia Strain on here. Sick video guys!

@diazable

3 ай бұрын

Tas was my vote for heavyiest band. 😊

@brandonhwang5242

3 ай бұрын

Snub of the century. TAS forever.

@pollockdown4213

3 ай бұрын

TAS just released 2 of the heaviest albums last year ever with Step Into the Light on the heavy hardcore side and Failure Will Follow on the doom/sludge heavy side.

@thefallofaaron

3 ай бұрын

seems they didnt really include deathcore in this much, but im with you man. TAS *IS* the heaviest band of all time imo. Id argue Impending Doom deserves a spot as well!

@AndrewJShirley

3 ай бұрын

Facts, TAS absolutely need a shout out.

Godflesh out in the first round???? Boys hard up that lore

@fcaioki7949

2 ай бұрын

That was wild. Even Jesu is heavier than Hatebreed imo

@ccoletti81

2 ай бұрын

​@@fcaioki7949the first seconds of "Friends Are Evil" just crusssshhh Hatebreed.

The video should have been "Second Heaviest Band of All Time" because Crowbar was never going to lose.

"This doesn't happen without Black Sabbath" yeah, that's not what the fucking bracket was about though was it? In what universe is Meshuggah not "heavier" than Black Sabbath?

@gregbaffuto4370

3 ай бұрын

they already used that logic to catapult Metallica over Neurosis so I was surprised they did it again right after lol

@realdog2552

3 ай бұрын

@@gregbaffuto4370 This bracket has me distraught lol

Black Sabbath did downtune for the reason Colin cited - the string tension was too much.

Soon as I seen Conan I knew my answer. Conan is one of my favorite bands. They are insanely heavy

@mitchellyons7568

3 ай бұрын

As much as I love Dying Fetus, there’s truly no way that they’re heavier than Conan

@Jon-vn9sn

3 ай бұрын

For my money, I would probably say they truly are the heaviest band of all time. It’s like it was their sole mission. And they succeeded. Just city leveling types of heavy.

@Terror0619

2 ай бұрын

@mitchellyons7568 yeah. Dying fetus. Is more hard then heavy. Conan's new album was the heaviest thing I've ever heard. Especially with a good stereo system. Earth shattering

bo relies too much on lyrics, by that standard you could pick pop songs as "heavy" cause some of them have heavy lyrics

@coffincat1465

2 ай бұрын

Nah, that’s hard. Lyrics can go hard, heavy is sonics and tone

@DigitalBath306

2 ай бұрын

@@coffincat1465 linkin park - one more light that song is heavy but it doesnt sound heavy

this is my first episode and i'm absolutely hooked. y'all's chemsitry is magnetic, and knowledge absolutely on point. much love guys, will be sticking around and watching more.

Bo must be trolling - On what planet is Type O heavier than deicide !

No Sunn O))), Indian, Grief, or Primitive Man? Literally all these bands are heavier than anything even mentioned in this fucking episode lmao.

@neighborhoodmusicsnob5517

2 ай бұрын

Thou too

@DiamondLifer

Ай бұрын

Sludge and Doom got no love.

@MUSICSUCKSMAKENOISE

Ай бұрын

That’s because they don’t know shit or they would have put a sludge/doom bands on the list ha. They truly picked like the dumbest fucking bands for heaviest bands and thought yup this rocks!

Bo's take on Morbid Angel v Obituary is insane.

@Jon-vn9sn

3 ай бұрын

Yea even just Kingdoms Distained, alone, is heavier than anything Obituary ever did. So much heft.

@camoflagueobituaryhat

3 ай бұрын

100%. I cannot believe Bo sometimes. On two different episodes he was like "how is morbid angel heavy?" "Blastbeats aren't heavy". I truly dont know what he thinks heavy is...

Bo has never been so wrong so consistently

Deicide is heavier than Type O. Period.

Converge is a dark horse for the hardest bands bracket, for certain.

bands that i think deserve a mention primitive man, carcass, disembowelment, autopsy, entombed, blasphemy, revenge, electric wizard, mortician, disma (completely understandable omission tho)

@tomes3290

2 ай бұрын

I would say Blasphemy/Revenge are hard rather than heavy. Blasphemy have a shoe in for hardest ever imo.

@spiritofthetallhills2037

2 ай бұрын

@@tomes3290 i guess thats valid

Christbait Rising is heavier than Hatebreed's discog you can't change my mind

No Mortician is bananas

Also has Bo broke edge and taken crack?! Metallica over Neurosis is just plain lack of knowledge.

All respect to Dying Fetus but Conan is made of lead and black holes. If they didn’t take the whole thing, sure, but a first round elimination is WILD.

In what universe is Typo heavier than Sleep?? And Metallica heavier than Neurosis? Look...I've seen most of these bands. When you walk away from a Sleep and Neurosis show, they're so heavy you still feel it on your way home. That is NOT the case with Metallica or Type O.

Crowbar period. The last minute of to carry the load done

3 serious omissions here, from my point of view. I get it, cuz you guys aren’t Doom guys ( & props for mentioning Conan & Sleep)but Primitive Man makes Conan sound like emo. They crush any other heavy band at the moment, & possibly ever. Grief too. Disgustingly heavy, & to think they were writing that stuff in the early 90’s! As far as death metal- DEVOURMENT. Respect for mentioning Neurosis and Crowbar!

No Primitive Man=joke list

This is insane. I don’t know if I can even finish this video. Right off the bat fucking it up. If you’re being honest Metallica and Black Sabbath shouldn’t even be on the list. I’ll try and push through, but this is painful boys.

Obituary or morbid shouldn’t even be a question MORBID no doubt

Brother, Lethargica is the heaviest thing ever surely. It’s fucking oppressively heavy. Laughably heavy!

Used to cover YOU SUFFER? By Napalm Death at every show, even when we played with Napalm Death and Bo, Colin is 100% right. Because you say your covering Napalm Death... most people are thinking your gonna play Suffer The Children but we would do, YOU SUFFER? After we did it opening for ND Barney asked if I wanted to sing DEAD on stage haha. So I said hell yeah and because of covering a 3 second YOU SUFFER BUT WHY? Lyric burst got me on stage to sing with one of my favorite bands at the time and just legends. So Colin and the You Suffer Cover Hack with Pop works 10/10 times.

Never seen Colin so sleeved

@mrozay607

3 ай бұрын

I knew somethin was different but couldn't put my finger on it haha

“We’re not saying best guy is some monkey, because there’s guys now!” “…What?”

Deicide is WAYYYY HEAVIER THAN TYPE O .. Come on Bo haha. It's all opinion but For The Heaviest Band Ever, I'm going to have to go with, "CIANIDE-THE DYING TRUTH 1992" for album and heaviest band Im gonna have to say, "dISEMBOWELMENT", Or , "Autopsy". but in a live setting this is easy, I'm going to say OM with Al and Chris live... also seeing Boris sound check at the FU Church in Philly in an empty room was the heaviest two live things Ive ever heard.

@rivagesfm5018

3 ай бұрын

that's insane to me, and I don't even like Deicide that much and love Type O

@shit_pant

3 ай бұрын

Exactly , put Peter Steele singing and the music from once upon a cross, , and you would say “once upon a cross is by far the heaviest type o negative song”

@SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG

3 ай бұрын

@@rivagesfm5018 He did say Once Upon The Cross was his favorite, so he might not know how sick the Self Titled, Legion, The Demos, and Serpents Of The Light is. I would think Bo would be more into Serpents Of The Light, but I also love Type O... but that statement , I had to say something haha

@SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG

3 ай бұрын

@@shit_pant If you had Peter do guest vocals with Decide via Once Upon The Cross it might not work, but if he just did like some spooky spoken word type stuff.... then I can see Peter making Deicide a bit heavier is just with his regular voice backing Glen would be sick.. but yeah Type O has their ballads which can be heavy but NOOOWHERE NEAR a Deicide level of heavy. But don't get me wrong Type O is a heavy band, but against a Death Metal band like Deicide... come on now.

“It’s not where you’re from, it’s where you’re at”. -Fury Of Five FUCK Metallica. They don’t hold a candle to Neurosis.

It would be fun to see an episode where Bo didn’t just cave to Colin or say the answer he thought Colin would say haha

Man they did Meshuggah diiirty dropping them in the first round like that lol. Sure, Sabbath walked so all the other bands on this list could run, no argument there - But you can't just ignore the huge influence Meshuggah have had on modern metal. I mean, they're pretty much solely responsible for spawning djent as a whole, and djent's whole thing is just trying to be as heavy as possible. But that's besides the point, because if we're really being scientific, there's absolutely no way "War Pigs" is heavier than songs like "Rational Gaze," "Organic Shadows" etc. There's just no way lol.

@abovedeathpresents

6 күн бұрын

Bruh, "I" opens with a 30 second long scream

I’m sorry bo, the deicide and type o round goes to deicide 100 out of 100 times 😂

Yes, I’m up And I’m harding my lore rn

This episode wasn't made to prove anything other than how great it is listening to you guys argue. Lol

you guys are crazy for not including Disembowelment

Bo’s takes are so bad sometimes lol

Where is Devourment?

@logancrusan6336

2 ай бұрын

My vote as well

@DiamondLifer

Ай бұрын

I said the same thing. Them and Mortician should have been included.

Mortician is the heaviest

Hard is relentless artillery barrage. Heavy is rhe nuclear blasts from ICBMs. "It's helll to get through this" vs "No escape. Game over"

First time I head xibalba was the first time I saw them live and I knew just from seeing their amps how heavy they would be, and they still blew me away

Type O has no business even being in the running. Same with Metallica

WHERE MORTICIAN

@louberry9185

3 ай бұрын

Preach!!!!!!

Need more clarification on what makes something heavy vs hard, I don’t think they have to be conflicting

God I love crowbar

48:13 The Monke evolution

where is nails where is full of hell where is primitive man and any powerviolence band

@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb

3 ай бұрын

gaza? cult leader?

@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb

3 ай бұрын

admiral angry?

@saucedonkey88889

3 ай бұрын

UHM..THE BEATLES?!

@mistathugdesolation

3 ай бұрын

admiral angry fake ass poser sludge band. lmfao

@brinepacer

3 ай бұрын

​@@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb right? This is like "who's the heaviest band to ever play Welcome To Rockville".

I know Pantera are legends but there is literally no argument that can be made that anything they’ve put out is heavier than “Cold” or “Guerilla.”

@xaviergrant7165

3 ай бұрын

Yo guerilla is the heaviest song ever haha

@jeffwise6937

3 ай бұрын

Easy decision in my opinion. Personally think Pantera is way harder than they are heavy.

@coffincat1465

2 ай бұрын

@@jeffwise6937Agreed. This is it

Very funny and good episode, as always, but I’ve gotta say, this criteria make absolutely no sense 😂 I already listened to this on Spotify, and I have to say, that winner is insane.

SLEEP losing to Type O is disrespectful love the pod

Bo tried to get Metallica a first round bye

Foo said Shibalba

@foxwomb

3 ай бұрын

that's how it's pronounced

devourment and its not even close

Melvins

All Out War going down so fast broke my heart. It was good to hear them both say All Out War is one of the hardest too.

Colin : Its HARDDDD AND HEAVYYYY Taylor literally 5 minutes later : its HARDDDD AND HEAVYYYYY

Fastest and heaviest would be Impaled Nazarene

The Acacia Strain, Primitive Man, Strapping Young Lad and Abominable Iron Sloth could have added two extra matches to this

@DiamondLifer

Ай бұрын

Glad someone mentioned Abominable Iron Sloth but I’d say Admiral Angry’s “Buster” and Black Sheep Wall’s “I’m Going To Kill Myself” are two extremely heavy albums that get no love also.

I think the main issue here is heaviness as a feeling vs heaviness as a sound. Sabbath self-titled song records hold up to this day because it FEELS heavy. Meshuggah has a heavy feeling too, but if a heavy feeling means it still holds up after the advent of Meshuggah, I think that’s evidence of transcendent heaviness. It’s like this… do you think Earth is heavy? They’re not the most intense band, but their music just plunges so deep with its feeling. They don’t even need distortion… the feeling is there. But if it’s all about sound, then yeah the more extreme bands are gonna win every time. In that mentality, I genuinely believe no band will ever surpass Primitive Man.

This is unbelievably fun lol I love this

If I remember correctly tony Iomi had to use banjo strings and detune to be able to play with prosthetics. I think if I chopped my fingers off I’d just accept guitar isn’t for me anymore

Choosing Metallica over neurosis is literally batshit insanity.

Would love to see a tournament bracket of the actual heaviest bands, based on how heavy they actually and not just their influence on heavy music. I love all of the bands mentioned for their legacy but there are so many bands that should be on here It’s like exorcist being at the top of every “most disturbing horror” lists still. It seems mad to not have primitive man, toke, Indian, dragged into sunlight, full of hell, dead in the dirt, etc. included But I also understand that you can’t just put every band ever in one video haha