Seth really is the type of player to be one of the nicest humans irl, and yet he still plays the most rage inducing floodgate decks 😂😂

@FarukAhmet

8 ай бұрын

That's how he stays nice, offloading all his misery to innocent zoomers

@dariengoheen747

8 ай бұрын

No shit lmao

@jlllorada8447

8 ай бұрын

True 👍

@lucidlullaby894

8 ай бұрын

It’s like horror movies, the people who watch terrifying gore-y movies tend to be really chill

@deadded5793

8 ай бұрын

Well, it's 1v1 competitive. If you see him play commander, he is very different.

Seth came to lock out opponents of playing Magic. Little did he know the 5C Mono Black Superfriends player was playing 4D chess instead of Magic.

31:57 "so if our opponent wants to get rid of the sterling grove, they have to cash in-" Ugin the spirit dragon: "I missed the part where that's my problem"

@drzero1131

8 ай бұрын

@@brackish2386 at least with ugin his most used effect is a minus, and he's 7 mana, albeit colourless oko is just a 3 drop that can essentially "kill" things with a +1 effect.

@josecod77

8 ай бұрын

@@drzero1131 Ugin could cost 10 mana and still be busted AF, any low curve deck just resings on the spot to an ugin.

@laurelkeeper

8 ай бұрын

Any low curve deck should fold when faced with a 7+ MV card. Most do.

@someguy1ification

8 ай бұрын

If their opponent is able to get out their 7 drops, the low curve deck has already pretty much lost.

@henrywalsh

7 ай бұрын

I can imagine that, on the inside, Seth died a little when that card came down.

Second matchup agaonst first opponent: they "always have a backup plan"-ed themselves, sat through half the drain combo playing out, then emoted some love. Great sportsmanship!

The match 2 Planeswalker deck looked super cool please play it on a future episode

Instead of casting Leyline of Sanctity, your opponent could have cast Phyrexian Unlife, and your combo no longer kills your opponent (because your combo technically does not deal damage). Then, if your combo occurred, it would actually result in a draw :)

@rpglover5955

8 ай бұрын

Leyline and Tainted remedy stops the combo, since Sanguine requires you to target an opponent, while tainted remedy prevents you from gaining life to begin with, stopping the Sanguine trigger, so casting leyline did make sense in that it was a 2nd protection piece vs the combo. Phyrexian unlife also fits the category for the above mentioned stuff in your own comment

@jaxsonbateman

8 ай бұрын

This was my thought too when Seth said that "Phyrexian Unlife doesn't interfere with our combo". It's like uh, dude, it totally stops your combo.

@madgenius9720

8 ай бұрын

Killed by autotapper

@ghanphol

Ай бұрын

Even if it did deal damage, does solemnity not say "Players cant gain counters"? So the combo actually works for both sides, and Phyrexian Unlife would be immortality for both of them. This was the thing I thought about, but I completely missed what you said. That's pretty cool.

That first opponent might have been waiting to see what the win con was, or hoping you'd deck out before drawing one, given you were drawing 3 per enchantment spell and had already discarded one copy of sanguine bonds

@ConManAU

8 ай бұрын

Or even potentially decked out as the drain combo resolved. They were at 20-something life so if it had been a few turns later it might not have worked. Edit: Wait I’m dumb I was getting the Enchantress trigger mixed up with the drain combo one thinking it drew as well.

@nickhaze2491

8 ай бұрын

Or they knew they were playing against saffronolive and decided to help make content lol

@eagleskid365

8 ай бұрын

Or just had a black card quest

@Numbabu

6 ай бұрын

@@nickhaze2491 Yeah they were trying to learn his lesson XD

To be fair, the only reason the Sanguine Bond combo is new to Arena is a technicality, in that the Sanguine Bond specific version of it is on arena for the first time. Other enablers for Exquisitie Blood combos have been around on arena for ages; Vito, the Dusk Rose as the most common one at only 3 mana, but also jankier stuff like Epicure of Blood.

@Shikachu55

8 ай бұрын

I have had a paper version of this deck for years. I was thrown off when he said that people didn't know this combo exists. I was actually gonna build something similar on arena but don't have the wildcards to dump atm.

@mcboy6464

8 ай бұрын

Dina, Soul Steeper also works

Match two was absolutely brilliant 😂 i was laughing my ass off the whole game

Seth said "The combo still works through Phyrexian Unlife" which is not true. Sanguine Bond doesn't do damage, so while the loop will occur, the opponent will never get poisoned, and the loop is not optional so it ends the game in a draw.

@bigjay506

8 ай бұрын

Phyrexian unlife is to protect you, not poison them. Phyrexian unlife+solemnity=protection, while sanguine bond+exquisite blood=unlimited damage on opponent. These two combos are separate.

@najoheuer

8 ай бұрын

@@bigjay506 I am fully aware of how the combos work. The comment that I referenced arose in response to the opponent stealing one of the Phyrexian Unlifes, which if the opponent had cast it would have disabled the Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood combo, since Sanguine Bond doesn't deal damage.

Seth saying “polluted bonds” confusing the shit out of me when he did just mean sanguine bone LMAO

@notyourbusiness5530

8 ай бұрын

He also called it Sheoldred once LMAO

laughed so much at Tainted Remedy

@urbaraskpraetor3316

8 ай бұрын

That game was wild, i want the opponents deck

Lol that Super Friends player really heard it was Against the Odds day and said "Hold my beer."

I'm amazed it took so long for Ugin to show up in match 2. I knew he was in their deck somewhere as soon as they played Lolth and showed it wasn't a vampire deck.

im willing to bet that the tainted remedy was sideboard tech that he mainly has for the mono white angels mathup (or the infinite life creature combo). honestly a pretty cool sideboard card against lifegain decks

Loved that Seth was outjanked. 😂😂😂😂

My EDH deck does this, "Dina, Soul Steeper + Exquisite Blood" I usually run a Vito, a Sanguine Bond and Epicure of Blood to have secondary ways to combo, just in case. I can also beat my oponents into submission, with Honour Troll, Bloodthirsty Aerialist and other creatures that use life to pump themselves up

@christopherdemichiei

8 ай бұрын

A fellow Dina fan! I didn't catch that Saunguine Bond was in the new Enchantments, now I'm excited

"Unlife means we don't just lose to an Ugin" Proceeds to just lose to an Ugin.

I will say, you absolutely should have put Umori as the companion. All your cards are enchantments anyway, so its just free value

@rubeshere

7 ай бұрын

What about the sideboard? Wrath of God isn't an enchantment. How does that work with Umori?

@choppyhen

7 ай бұрын

@rubeshere umori only cares about main deck, as do all companions. If he decides he needs wraths more than umori, then he sides in wrath of God, and umori is no longer a legal companion. It's a game to game thing, and he'd technically count towards the sideboard count

I've used Phyrexian unlife + solemnity in a deck for the past 5-6 years. It's always nice to see other people discovering my favorite combo

Loving the dog panting in the background hahaha

This is a sweet deck! I wish I had the rares to support it! It'd be cool to see you adapt this same deck to Historic Brawl!

I have a whole deck around Solemnity in Commander, it's one of my all time favorite cards. Love seeing it as a star here.

I used to play with Tainted Remedy and Tree of Perdition when they were in Standard. Fun times. Match 2 is the Epitome of Arena gameplay. Big time fun Police.

Another great episode brother Set. Keep it up. 💯

Playing this deck in the latest historic all access event on arena (use cards from outside your collection) - it’s so much fun!! New favorite deck for sure

I didn't pay that close attention to the mana you had available, but couldn't you have cast your first Sythis then once it was in play cast your second one to start the combo in the first game of the second match? Sythis is an enchantment so would trigger another on cast (though obviously have also legends ruled itself if the spell resolved, not that it would since you would have been infinite just before that)

i always look forward to these prison/lockout decks

Really fun historic brawl combo: there and back again + Burdiclad, Telchor Engineer

I love the decks you bring and dream of one day maybe have all the cards to play them

I do agree that Unlife is better, but it's more complicated than that. Unlife's lack of damage prevention is a benefit, you no longer lose to stomp and questing beasts. The losing game to farewell is hit or miss. If you have over 0 life, you don't lose immediately. If under, then that is a moot point. Ugin comes down and you probably lose regardless, if you don't have removal. In fact, there are more ways to lose if you are 0 life due to removal. There are ways around it though. Nine lives has 3 major benefits. Least is the hexproof. Harder to remove with spot removal. Second benefit is you can survive longer while hoping to topdeck a solemnity. Additional copies of nine lives gives more time to survive. Additional copies of unlife are meaningless other than security against removal. Finally, you lose access to cards like teferi's protection. Doesn't save the game to phase out unlife if you have 0 life

@notyourbusiness5530

8 ай бұрын

Arena really needs to add an Angel's grace. Especially now that the tainted pact/thoracle combo is in Arena

I’m not gonna lie that black, super friends deck is the one deck in this entire series that I’ve actually rooted for over you Seth… sorry but also not sorry

Game two was excellent! :-)

Very fitting that game 1 opp played Hopeless Nightmare over and over when hardlocked by Seth. It truly was a hopeless nightmare.

Love this deck

I’ve only seen tainted remedy once in my life and that was in a friend’s orzhov deck a year or two ago where they had a bunch of cards that pretty much doubled everyone’s health each turn.

i have a similar deck, however there a couple of weaknesses that are easy to cover, a single copy of spark rupture for those planeswalkers, 2 copys of approach of the second sun for alternate win con, 2 copys of gias blessing for that mill and 2 copys of gauntlets of light to go infinite mana with sanctum weaver makes for a more reliable win when they tap out

Protip: If you're running enchantress and have a ton of card draw anyway, there are easier wincons to hit than sanguine blood combo. I personally love me a one-of approach of the second sun.

So funny, just last night I was talking to my friend about making a modern deck around this combo, as I had just made a Commander deck based off of the life gain, life loss loop. Seeing this come out, that hard lock is disgusting, I'm taking notes!

Match 2 game 1 was sooooo funny! Seth layed the trap, and the opponent fell in! 😂

The hilarity of this video alone makes it worth it.

I put an axis of mortality in my deck as an alt win con. Works so well

I play a very similar deck (entirely without creatures, focusing a bit more on denial effects like Runed Halo and Deafening Silence) that uses Axis of Mortality as one of the wincons :D maybe try it out instead of or next to the blood combo

I play a similar deck accept I run marauding Blight-Priest instead of sanguine, which both have the same exact activated ability but it's 1 or 2 mana cheaper, and also i have soul warden in the deck. i make sure I have exquisite blood and soul warden out on the field then cast the blight-priest which since it;s a creature it'll trigger soul to have me gain a life and the loop automatically starts

37:03 Painlands have gameplay disadvantages ;) 51:07 Idk, it's one of my favourites from wayyyy back, and even I didn't realize how broken it is in LoTR and Kamigawa meta

It was fun to see all these random enchantments function well against the meta. Edit: Match 5 was absolutely nuts. Also loved seeing someone lose life to their land, triggering the combo. 😂

I have a timeless white blue solemnity deck that can get around Ugin and nearly every other card that can beat enchantments. It's still weak to non-targeted mill, but I have a gaea's cradle in the sideboard. The issue with the deck is that you want to get down the one ring before you cast solemnity. After getting two or more counters on it, you then have an indestructible draw engine that no longer kills you and can get you to your one wincon, approach the second sun. There are several one mana noncreature counter spells like swan song and an offer you can't refuse along with Dovin's veto and some get losts to destroy planeswalkers and leylines. There aren't any greater auramancies because the one mana counter spells work much better at protecting the enchantments. There are also leylines in the main deck to protect from thoughtseizez and stifles in the sideboard to protect from channel abilities.

when they tainted remedy could we not have leyline binding tutor off a grove? i know once they hit the 2 sanguines we were done but in the lead up it didnt seem like we were definitively dead yet

Is Bear panting in the background during some of the dech tech lol?

Oh, that second opponent 😂

Oh man, when your opponent lost life to their Sorin in game two, I really thought you were going to tell your opponent about repercussions for such actions.

Okay, Bowmasters vs Solemnity is pretty hilarious. That poor orc army just keeps dying. Makes me wonder if there is some funny combo shenanigans with the death trigger.

Sneaky bear at the end!

Lifegain is so prevalent I am surprised you weren't expecting the tainted remedy.

so my combo for this decks it Orzhov Soul Warden Vito Bond. Vito does the same thing as Bond so in case I can't find it, he can help but also having Soul Warden can start the loop even on their turn. Sheoldred Apoca is also another way to start the loop and Authority of the Consul can help slow the opponent and also trigger the loop.

locking out all these rakdos decks lets go~

Match 2s planeswalker deck was insane. Some choices made no sense to me, like the one mana vampires lol. I wish I could see a full list

48:11 Cici meowing 🥺

This deck needs an Axis of Mortality, even as a one of. Would let you kill your opponent on upkeep if you are negative life thanks to unlife.

@notyourbusiness5530

8 ай бұрын

I was actually surprised when I didn't see it in the deck teck. Honestly, it's a better, more consistent wincon with unlife than sanguine bond and exquisite blood.

Considering how many cards are counters-dependent in Modern, I'd be interested to see how it works as a sideboard option in Modern. It severely slows down a lot of strategies in the format, especially Lil Sheoldred (bowmasters) and the Ring.

Ok now im curious about an against the idds tainted remedy deck i verting target life gain to target burn since you can get more value out of life gain for the mana than burn

Tainted Remedy + Beacon of Immortality is fun.

@5:00 Being unable to die from being at 0 and giving the opponent 3 cards anyways just to give them that spark of hope

I really hope they put Geralf's Messenger and Kitchen Finks into arena. I want to use them with Alter of Dementia and Solemnity.

Its at least more interesting than just casting approach and the one ring. This is the type of deck i hate to play against but love to play.

honestly I expected a lot more farewells than there were

In that last game, every time your enchantress effects drew a card, your opponent would have to ping themself. If their only win cons were reflections and bowmasters, they might have just been hard locked.

I built an oloro deck recently for edh with friends, and threw solemnity on my sideboard for a friend who runs a populate deck... I happened to run glacial chasm in my deck as the point of the deck is sort of a psuedo stax deck. Gain life and just draw the game out. I was very happy when I realized this combo works similarly to phyrexian unlife. :) Such a stupid combo when you get it off, and its weird that the decks that play these cards have means to cut back on the interactions opponents can have with it just... naturally. Like you said its just kinda build to counter a lot of meta choices right now.

The Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond isn't really a new combo to MTG:A as we had cards like Vito and Marauding Blight-Priest which have abilities similar to Sanguine Bond

seth forgetting his extra sterling groves can find his combo piece is painful

Just so you know Seth, it would definitely not take 10 more burn spells to kill you with just an unlife in play. It would take 10 damage, which is converted to poison, not to one poison counter like 9 lives does with life counters

@lordmeep5803

8 ай бұрын

Maybe this was the last vid a longer day of recording. Couple really clean lines got missed especially with sterling grove. Either way a banger of a deck and a good video!

@lordmeep5803

8 ай бұрын

(Match 2 game 2 crack sterling grove in upkeep to get the combo win)

@faceoctopus4571

8 ай бұрын

Actually it would take at least 14 more damage because Seth was at 4 and unlife only does anything once you are at 0 or less life.

Can someone explain to me why he was saying that in Match 2 Game 2 he was going to lose (before they exiled the sanguine bonds)?

Meliria hardlocks with phyrexian unlife too but allows other counters on things.

31:58 reaction HALL OF FAME

26:33 They saw Sanguine bond in the spoilers and immediately put Tainted Remedy in the sideboard of all of there black decks is my guess. That or they really hate mono white lifegain.

Tainted remedies are counter play to life gain decks, and this deck technically is a life gain deck

Leyline binding can get rid of tainted remedy. A big counter to your whole deck would be "Back to Nature"

When the one player activated Ramunap Ruins, they paid life, which caused Saffron to gain life, which put him at 1 life, which stopped the poison counter.

What about soul warden to start the combo? Easy to cast

I guarantee your G3 opponent saw you hover over Sanguine Bond, noticed that it said "Target" at the same moment you did, and came to the same conclusion as you at the same time, but also completely forgot about the Mt Doom they seemed to notice as well.

Should have sided spark rupture!

Combo deck: Who is the beach now? LoL.

match 2 game 2 you had won :black market must choose a least 1 mode, so you can tutor upkeep, play 2nd piece of combo and trigger before he can use any pw or cast enchant gg :p

I actually got a Calix Historic Brawl deck with multiple locks.

27:00 couldn't you leyline binding the tainted remedy?

11:15: "I don't think there's a card they could have in a Lurrus deck they could have to get out from under this." Blot Out The Sky It is valid in a Lurrus deck and could have one shot you at any point the opponent had 8 or more available mana. They weren't playing white so definitely didn't have it, but it IS valid is a Lurrus deck (especially important to watch out for because both cards are WB, so it really could be there).

Opponent in game 1 didn’t scoop because you have yet to show a wincon, you discarded a combo piece and decks like this sometimes get greedy and only run one.

@zackestin1368

8 ай бұрын

Hence the reading unlife a few times. To see if it prevented losing from you decking yourself

@keeganm9184

8 ай бұрын

I think he also wanted more info to use for sideboarding in the following match.

Hey, I was wondering if there was some new against the odds decklist out. Went against someone using this deck just yesterday. I was using a modified against the odds deck myself (think eldrazi displacer and containment priest stax). Beat the hell outta the guy using this deck because I kept removing their key enchantments and beating them down with creature lands.

Why didnt you leyline bind the thing killing your lifegain? I mean yeah after he hit both your other half finisher, but before that you went total defeatist?

I did learn one valuable lesson, don't play tefferi protection to avoid board wipe, you just instantly die.

So basically just play Solemnity and Leyline to beat this format? Noice!

I need this deck but for Moderm

Game 1 of Match 3, opponent should've cast your Phyrexian Unlife (and not the Leyline), with your Solemnity out, they also couldn't die to damage. And they could have cast it without tapping the pain land.

31:55 PAIN

Any deck with unlife should fit in an Axis of Immortality effect in

Anyone got a decklist similar to the monoblack superfriends?

36:55 Peak Magic

17:02 They didn't even do it!

I played against one of these... it ended in a tie because they kept doing the same loop. I had a land with a very specific counter.

I need to know the opponent's deck in match 2!!