Happiness is a cookie that your brain bakes for itself (Joscha Bach) | AI Podcast Clips
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Joscha Bach, VP of Research at the AI Foundation, previously doing research at MIT and Harvard. Joscha work explores the workings of the human mind, intelligence, consciousness, life on Earth, and the possibly-simulated fabric of our universe.
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I am floored by his ability to concisely frame complex principles into sentences with such eloquence.
@cabanford
2 жыл бұрын
And in a language that isn't his mother tounge. Wow.
@cabanford
2 жыл бұрын
I'm an American who lives in Switzerland and speaks German. The thought of being able to function at even a small modicum of his level auf Deutsch is beyond my imagination 🤪🙈
This is the highest minds-blown-per-minute I've ever experienced... "Suffering is the result of caring about things that you cannot change. If you are able to change what you care about to those things that you can change, you will not suffer." 🤯 0:06 "Happiness itself is not important. Happiness is like a cookie." 🤯 0:21 "The environment cannot make you happy, it's your appraisal of your environment that makes you happy. And if you can change your appraisal of the environment, which you can learn to, then you can create arbitrary states of happiness." 🤯 0:52 "It's very hard to sterilize a planet once it's infected with life." 🤯 2:34 "You are just an expression of the cell." 🤯 2:49 "You shift the boundaries between the ordered systems into the realm of the chaos." 🤯 4:48 "What feels most meaningful to me is to try to build and maintain a sustainable civilization." 🤯 5:05 "Is it possible that a gas giant could become intelligent, what would that involve?" 🤯 6:04 "I don't think that God has anything to do with creation. I think it's a mistranslation of the Talmud into the Catholic mythology. I think that Genesis is actually the childhood memories of a god. It's a mind that's remembering how it came into being." 🤯 7:34 "The higher being that we are part of is the civilization." 🤯 10:04 ...Wait, the full conversation is 3 HOURS? 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@skyblue9991
4 жыл бұрын
🤯x1million
@cultofsogga5863
3 жыл бұрын
Duality trap
@jayyykayyy
3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@rafaelescobar4217
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the mind-blown-per-minute ratio is really high in this one
@Monotheist137
3 жыл бұрын
@@J-KEY If you statement is true why he is getting "attention" now, not before Jeffrey Epstein "death".
Thank you for introducing me to Joscha Bach.We are privileged to have him on our planet at this time.
@dickschwanzstein1789
3 жыл бұрын
Although I agree to a large degree, I do wanna say this: are you aware that he had ties to Jeffrey Epstein and has refused to disclose them?
@Cracktune
2 жыл бұрын
SAME
@gloriahallelujah1118
Жыл бұрын
Victims and victimizers are roles we play . Also God is Creation which is Love Jeffrey Epstein was the opposite of unconditional Love . The girls were seeking love ❤️ it was not love. He wants us to believe that GOD doesn’t exist , which is simply a sick mind
@jimjaspers2804
Жыл бұрын
This is the charm Lex radiates.
This episode is so thought provoking, I needed to pause and rock in my chair multiple times.
@sidharthvyas5883
4 жыл бұрын
Same here buddy.
@AngieF8
4 жыл бұрын
Me too, fascinating 🥰
@Ricjamz
3 жыл бұрын
Guy steals my words out my mouth love it
@isaacroberts9089
3 жыл бұрын
rocking in your chair is a sort of nodding with your whole body, you think? We nod with our heads to accept new information into our beings. Would a bigger nod, a whole body nod, serve the same function for bigger information? I certainly find myself pausing when I come across something new, something I need to reflect on, or play again in my head, but often I realize this information is new after i've paused it, that the mechanism for pausing is so embodied for me that it happens before i'm consciously aware the information is new. Weird stuff.
@lilfr4nkie
3 жыл бұрын
I’m still rocking 🙈🤘
1 minute and 47 seconds in and this dude has said more than most philosophy teachers say in a year.
@Anton_Sh.
4 жыл бұрын
oh, sure. come on.
@thinkdifferent9185
4 жыл бұрын
No, he really didn't.
@RalphDratman
4 жыл бұрын
You must have had some very quiet philosophy teachers.
@novtag9724
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@santos122122
4 жыл бұрын
@@RalphDratman He said more meaningful stuff than most philosophy teachers :)
this clip opens up w lex gazing at the ceiling and rocking in his chair asking if suffering is fundamental for happiness. this is the most lex opening jesus. if you're reading this lex i appreciate your podcast series very much please keep it up.
@lexfridman
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, and it is true, this is how I spend 90% of my day: rocking in a chair, pondering if suffering is fundamental to happiness.
@itshazy
4 жыл бұрын
@@lexfridman keep on rocking on Lex! Thank you for doing this. Your pondering about suffering is defusing redundant suffering worldwide.
@TheMrVogue
4 жыл бұрын
@@lexfridman I laughed my ass off at that comment, holy smokes is that a gem!
@tacista
4 жыл бұрын
@@lexfridman In that case, I think, you could find Peter Ralston an interesting fellow to talk to.
@mariohektorovic2195
2 жыл бұрын
@@lexfridman i just want to thank you for the knowledge i get from you. You helped my mind to satisfy many curiosities and questions, and opened up a lot of new interesting ones. You offered so much new topics to talk with my friends and shared a lot of knowledge for free, and really leaving a positive footprint in time and you have my full gratitude. if you ever need anything when you come to Croatia just ask, its the least i can do.
From all the Lex videos I´ve watched I think this one is where you can see his mind struggling and enjoying such struggle, not business as usual. Long live Lex and long live Joscha
@leegrant7333
4 ай бұрын
and yours
I had to listen to this one twice. The Matrix brain cable got too hot.
@MiuMiuKoo
4 жыл бұрын
Just on round two myself I fried my curcuits too😳
learned more from Joscha in ten minutes than I did in my whole school education
The cookie was tremendous. Joey Diaz.
@yoganandavalle
3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahahahhahaha best comment!!!!!
This was one of the most enjoyable podcasts I've ever listened to. Awesome as always!
This podcast was insanely thought provoking, thanks guys.
This was your best podcast yet. I listened to it multiple times. You guys covered so many topics and this was my favorite part.
Unhappiness is when your brain adds raisins to that cookie 🍪
I love how Josha explains it so common folks can understand the concept.
@TheMrVogue
4 жыл бұрын
I think if you've never been exposed, or have a shallow exposure to some of these topics, it's gonna require a rewind, so the less articulated explanations he provides are great. Remember, Joscha has already been thinking and exploring these things for some time, so don't discount yourself as "common" if you feel like the topics are a little lofty. If you're watching these videos, odds are, you're probably not very common.
@azula3906
6 ай бұрын
@@TheMrVogue That is true. I need to learn other people's perspectives in order to implement his ideas in real life.
"The environment cannot make you happy. It's your appraisal of the environment that makes you happy." - Joscha Bach
Wow! So much super great mind intriguing information in such a short time. Amazing stuff!
By far my most rewatched KZread clip. It still blows my mind every time. Thank you Lex and Joscha! You are heroes of thought!
Mind-boggling-bending-freezing interview! You must have this man back in your show!
Wow. So much to unpack in just this clip alone. I’m gonna watch it again.
Joscha Bach should earn an idea density merit badge for this appearance. It will bear several more listening sessions. Thanks to you both.
i set my happiness cookie boolean to false to avoid the anger from getting my hopes up
You can wonder why you're unhappy for months if not years and he puts it so perfectly. You're unhappy because you care about something that cannot be changed so care about something that you can change. So simple and over looked yet so fucking powerful #thatslit
The dude has so much energy... like he was totally unphased by the sheer amount of dense concepts he was conveying.
@DarioVillirilli
4 жыл бұрын
He must have processed them many times in his head to reach this cognitive ease/coherence.
Best guest to date Lex, I could listen to you both for hours..TY
Lex, You are an AWESOME human! your podcast brings me joy.
@thomasking4791
4 жыл бұрын
What a nice thing to say.
@vittoriocotroni4561
4 жыл бұрын
I agree :)
@nickbroekman9360
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, but in this case he didn’t need to say anything. Just give this guy a little nudge and greatness comes out for the next hour or so 😄
This interview blew my mind, I need to talk to this guy..
@TimmacTR
3 жыл бұрын
@Swoosh Swish About the nature of things :)
Keep up the good work lex! Big fan! I want to say this is a very deep and awsome conversation and i have trouble keeping up. But i do tell people all the time, its simple, discipline, routine, healthy diet, stay busy, exercise. Thats it. But i do like hearing the science behind it. Thanks! 👍
@docknives3792
4 жыл бұрын
Create. Everything else is to sustain creation.
His theory on the creation of life was mind blowing! I've never heard an explanation like that before. Very convincing!
@blackeroni
4 жыл бұрын
yep, our dad was a gas giant. So profound.
Oh my god this guy is inspirational!
@good4gaby
4 жыл бұрын
Lex gets the Most amazing guests and is an incredibly talented interviewer.
"Suffering is the result of caring about things that you cannot change. If you are able to change what you care about to those things that you can change, you will not suffer."
That's simple, thoughtful, and mind blowing approach to such a complex concepts ever!
Dude is so smart that he’s turning into a robot starting with his voice and calculated answers .
@apothecurio
2 жыл бұрын
That's just being german.
ended just as it was getting to the best part! cant wait to have this guy on again
His facial expression when he says something really fucked up mind blowing is so funny. I love how Lex has to keep stopping him like “ok hold on what the fuck”
Sufferers, ASSEMBLE!
Thank you Lex and Joscha for sharing your time and thoughts. It was facinating to listen to such a profound discussion! Joscha is a first principle grand master 🤯
And here's another genius named Bach.
@xavi2803
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently they’re related!
"It's very hard to sterilize a planet once it's infected with life." My chest swells with hope. Thank you, gentlemen.
I wish there was someone besides my therapist that I could share this with.
"The childhood memories of a god" is such a loaded sentence...it filled me up with emotion for some reason. It hit me right in the creativity lol.
@pjetrs
Жыл бұрын
Somehow reminds me of the end of 2001: a space odyssey
The complexity of the beautiful explanations of Joscha and how Lex patiently takes them and carefully aprehend them recalls me the conversations between David Bohm and Jiddu Krishnamurti in the 60's-70's of the previous century. Those were more metaphysical conversations, but that same mood is here imho.
Joshua may be the smartest (or at least the most articulate) man alive.
Such complex ideas but spoken so eloquently- notice he basically never stutters or goes “uhm” “ahhh” the concepts are so clear in his mind! What a great conversation!
In case you don't get it: This means you should meditate
This is an amazing clip, Joscha Bach just blows my mind! Our reality is the memory of a higher being/civilization that exists outside of time.
If one day an alien live visits Earth, I want officially request Joscha to represent our civilization.
He is the prove that beauty radiates from the mind! Thank you for makes your thoughts available to us.
nothing new under the sun, this guy needs a hug...
yet again a phenomenal talk, well done Lex.
I had to listen to this at .75 playback speed and the guy was still talking fast.
@Lex Fridman, It's probably the most important piece of information I got over the last 20 year. WOW, I applaud to that. (gonna listen to this podcast now)
This was super good!
thank you for these ideas of wisdom
Fucking Gold! Lex is getting better by the day!
Thanks Lex, thanks Joscha, inspiring and motivating to hear your thoughts and queries about science, life, and the universe
“Negentropy gradients” two words and they point to their own hour long conversation on one of the most important aspects of life
I need this guy to talk to eddie bravo
Best guest ever. What a mind. ⭐
This is the one of the deepest set of things I've heard in a long time. Wow.
Very engaging content, thank you.
More cookies more of these talks please 🚀 awesome Lex & Joscha ✨👌🏼😎
thanks for a really interesting and a greatly conducted interview. a bit surprised by his dismissal and blunt psychologizing of nietzsche. but told with his accent it actually became a bit humorous :)
This dude is something else
When watching this I feel I am in the presence of Greatness.
Never thought of happiness that way
The meaning of life is to live it. That off course implies a lot of new questions, and this is , where the fun begins !
Great video
Interesting to hear the Solaris reference applied. I admit I've never read Lem's book or watched to 2002 Hollywood movie but Tarkovsky film next to Come and See is one of most intense things I've ever watched.
God damn its great listening to people who I have many disagreements with but can’t wait to hear what they have to say next. You so often extract the best in your guests Lex. 🍻
Loved it
This guy is the real Sheldon from Big Bang theory with German accent ;-)
Do we say Illuminato? Kudos to Lex for keeping up the conversation with such a german enlightened spirit.
Mind blowing!
" Take a cookie, as soon as your done eating it .... you will feel right as rain "
Your podcast makes my mind bake cookies.
Thinking emoji
@AndersonStJones
4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't keep up lol but i love this channel.
@ma-ox2pm
4 жыл бұрын
bru
@dannydechesseo1322
4 жыл бұрын
baba booey
Joscha is speaking like he has prepared this idea since years.
@W00PIE
4 жыл бұрын
Well, he has. You can find at least 3 talks with slides from the Chaos Communication Congress when you look for "joscha bach ccc" right here on KZread. Be prepared, the pace is even faster =)
"And that's how the cookie crumbles."
This dude forced me to have an awakening and all I wanted was to eat this cookie.
This must be the first podcast episode that I have to listen at 0.5x speed instead of usual 2x speed
I love the concept of the societal super-organism which I share re- the janus relationship between cell-body and body(individual)-society. I think Bion theory building on Winnicott has very strong description and fits very neatly also with evolutionary psychology.
Wise words!
Thaddeus Golas had this theory in his book " love and pain" arrived at in a different way. Purpose is to evolve, there is no plan - its completely wild but will evolves its own systems as it goes along. His smallest particle is the Atom, or the whole that can also a particle when contracted.
yes cool..thx both. best duo .....ever...
Entropy extractor, Turing machine, self replicator. Do any of these include communication between a collection of cells?
@docknives3792
4 жыл бұрын
Turing is the area of communication.
Great channel, Grüsse an Joscha, sowas gibts bei uns leider nicht mehr...
Wonderful clip. Tripped up on Bach’s intuition that abiogenesis is very unlikely, and that spontaneous intelligence creating cells as von Neumann probes and infecting planets is more likely. It seems like we don’t have any way to calculate either probability, so I’m very curious what fuels his intuition for this.
I wish the interview focused more on explaining his viewpoints in layman terms instead of mowing us down with volumes of, what most of us would consider to be abstract for consumption.
@garethmorgan3665
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus, thank god. Not just me then? I watched the first 10 min and understood about 17% of what he was talking about.
This is such fundamental deep shit, im mindblown. Thanks
This guy is wild smart. I mean everyone who comes on this podcast is smart, but this guy is on another level.
fucking love this man
I have no idea what he is saying, but I could listen to him saying it all day!!!
cool video keep up the great content
More !
I'll miss u Lex
I realized not too long ago that the external things I thought were making me happy were literally just me and my own actions/thoughts that which i had assumed was coming from external sources.
Thanks Foreverything 💯💞
Lex “who planted the seed of the cell” Fridman
@MichaelEverheartt
4 жыл бұрын
I’ll take God for $500?
@CatsInHats-S.CrouchingTiger
4 жыл бұрын
💗
@eisenwerks6388
4 жыл бұрын
@Kargadan Yep! "weell it's complex, so maybe something clever designed it" "This means a specific strain of a particular middle eastern deity into whose cult I happen to have been indoctrinated since I learned to speak is the correct one. You're gonna burn pal."
@Ricjamz
3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelEverheartt who is lol question form bur bur Sally category
The meaning of life is to live a life that is meaningful