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Hans-Hermann Hoppe: What Marx Gets Right

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  • @Anfwon
    @Anfwon3 жыл бұрын

    Time Preference is something you aren't even taught in University economic classes.

  • @TheSummersilk

    @TheSummersilk

    2 жыл бұрын

    jesus.

  • @carlosbanderas4238

    @carlosbanderas4238

    Ай бұрын

    Not in the fundamental theoretical sense. But discounts and interest rates are one of the most important concepts.

  • @TribeWars1
    @TribeWars13 жыл бұрын

    This is a truly incredible talk. I'm somewhat disheartened by the comment section, suggesting that people did not bother to listen to the talk. Essentially Marx correctly identifies the existence of a class of exploiters and exploited. However, he incorrectly places the blame on a misguided understanding of capitalism instead of non-voluntary expropriation of goods by the state.

  • @privateer1839
    @privateer18396 жыл бұрын

    Why are not more people in the US, the supposed land to the free, pushing Hans Hoppe's Idea of a Private Law Society??

  • @areez22

    @areez22

    5 жыл бұрын

    Few are class-conscious. There are some, but most people either think government intervention in the economy is necessary, or don't even respect private property and support socialism.

  • @billmelater6470

    @billmelater6470

    5 жыл бұрын

    The dirty little secret in the US is that far more than half no nothing of their own history and even less of the foundational philosophy behind the concept of Liberty that the nation was supposed to have been founded on. Other than that, many who champion freedom tend to fear it the most because freedom for you means freedom for others. Once others are free to do, then you will find that those stating a preference for freedom are at the same time opposed to it utterly.

  • @linkinlinkinlinkin654

    @linkinlinkinlinkin654

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because private law society doesn't work.

  • @iwatochmyna9764

    @iwatochmyna9764

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@linkinlinkinlinkin654 ?

  • @neighborhoodthreattv

    @neighborhoodthreattv

    3 жыл бұрын

    The majority of people are deficient in both logical ability and morality, and this will always be the case. Change for the better only occurs when society's betters, the natural aristocracy, adopt austro-libertarianism.

  • @konberner170
    @konberner1706 жыл бұрын

    Worst part is that most of this is completely obvious. The fact that it has to be explained is a pretty sad statement for how strong cognitive bias is.

  • @Prometheus7272

    @Prometheus7272

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anything, even simple things can be elaborated and further analysed

  • @konberner170

    @konberner170

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Prometheus7272 True. Including sadness around the extent of ignorance.

  • @Booer

    @Booer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Truuuu

  • @SaulOhio
    @SaulOhio6 жыл бұрын

    "What Marx gets right". I would have expected a video with that name to be much shorter. MUCH shorter.

  • @whiff1962

    @whiff1962

    6 жыл бұрын

    SaulOhio Good one.

  • @ProlificThreadworm

    @ProlificThreadworm

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hah. It took a lot of time going through corrections ;)

  • @whateva1983

    @whateva1983

    5 жыл бұрын

    says the guy who hasn't read a line by Marx. (At most The Communist Manisfesto.)

  • @roc6596

    @roc6596

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marx wasn't a bad author at all, he just maid some crucial mistakes on some of this works, also, many of his ideas were misused or simply changed by today's socialists. Still, though, Marx was indeed wrong in a lot of ways, but if he himself saw what Marxism and socialism has become throughout the decades he'd surely be really sad.

  • @yunggolem4687

    @yunggolem4687

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@roc6596 Heh heh... maid.

  • @littoy
    @littoy6 жыл бұрын

    Now that's a spicy title.

  • @mathemagicalmonk2084
    @mathemagicalmonk20846 жыл бұрын

    graphic animations to illustrate what he talked about would have very good returns

  • @BigEvan96

    @BigEvan96

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @FidelHimself
    @FidelHimself6 жыл бұрын

    Replace the functions of government with Smart Contracts and Cryptocurrency

  • @noyb154

    @noyb154

    6 жыл бұрын

    govt is defined by its violence. take the violence away, and you have nothing more than a rulebook, which doesn't accomplish anything without someone to compel people to follow it. eliminating violence is a great idea, but you can't do it by declaration or wishing or computer programing. the freedom of individuals must be defended physically (and violently) by individuals.

  • @thereisnospoon277

    @thereisnospoon277

    6 жыл бұрын

    FidelHimself That won't work, and you know it won't work.

  • @FidelHimself

    @FidelHimself

    6 жыл бұрын

    Guillermo Nieves Okay why? Why even leave a comment if you aren’t going to give a reason?

  • @FidelHimself

    @FidelHimself

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gee Willickers No shit. We still need people to enforce the contracts we voluntarily agree to. I said nothing about eliminating enforcement.

  • @foundleroy2052

    @foundleroy2052

    6 жыл бұрын

    Legislation of private law via Smart Contracts Jurisdiction by an algorithm embedded in Smart Contracts Execution by combining it with Cryptocurrency as a contracted measurement of keeping the contract. If the embedded currencies contract is violated the trust lost equates into a diminished value of the currency compared to other contracts currencies in the marketplace.

  • @trucid2
    @trucid26 жыл бұрын

    Now do a talk on Pinochet. What Pinochet did right.

  • @maxxxstrong4577

    @maxxxstrong4577

    6 жыл бұрын

    🚁... so to speak.

  • @roxnozlynx98

    @roxnozlynx98

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pinochet is diffinently the best athouritain of all modern history.

  • @ubik_3786

    @ubik_3786

    5 жыл бұрын

    He did a lot of great mass murder and oppression at the behest of the capitalist empire that propped up his regime to stamp out populist socialist movements, also known as the US government

  • @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676

    @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ubik_3786 And Capitalists will suck him off forever because of that It's like watching Tankies worship Stalin

  • @GeorgWilde

    @GeorgWilde

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everything Pinochet did was right, except the transition to democracy - that was terible.

  • @mattmcclellan7781
    @mattmcclellan7781 Жыл бұрын

    45 minutes of Hoppe is like a semester of knowledge.

  • @goonofhazard2203
    @goonofhazard22035 жыл бұрын

    Producers/Contractors VS Exploiters (Non-producers, Non-contractors)

  • @shahabmos5130
    @shahabmos51305 жыл бұрын

    false advertising , i thought he was talking about groucho marx .

  • @fabriziofer1994
    @fabriziofer19946 жыл бұрын

    I never understood how Marx could talk about the expropriation, implemented by the capitalist, of the surplus value produced by the worker: indeed, you need both capital and labour to produce everything, so it sounds entirely right and sensible to me that both capital and labour are remunerated for their production, meaning that i deem it self-evident that the price of every good incorporates both wages and returns on equity/capital.

  • @tjejojyj

    @tjejojyj

    6 жыл бұрын

    Fabrizio Ferrari Marx said commodities are exchanged for their equivalents. For the worker the commodity they sell is labour-power, their ability to labour and its price is determined by the cost of its reproduction. However in the working day the capitalist receives the use-value of that labour and so the worker can produce more value than the cost of their own labour. The difference is “surplus value” which is expropriated by the capitalist. For a Marxist response to most of the issues presented in this lecture read the following: www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/08/val1-a13.html A reply to correspondence on Marx's theory of value EXTRACT ... It is clear, as Marx put it, that mankind did not descend from the trees divided into a class of capitalists and wage workers. This division is a product of a whole historical epoch. The pre-condition for the development of capitalist production is in fact the separation of the direct producers from the means of production, the accumulation of those means of production in the hands of a minority, and the creation of a social class with nothing to sell but its labour power. Taking this division as given, as natural, the bourgeois economists then proceeded to develop the theory that profit was the reward for waiting ... END

  • @fabriziofer1994

    @fabriziofer1994

    6 жыл бұрын

    I read the first chapters of the Capital some years ago, during my first year in college studying economics, and I remeber that even back then I used to think that the very definition of "expropriation of the surplus value of the worker" did not make sense at all to me: indeed, the labourer cannot be even close to be as productive as he is by means of the tools and the machines provided by the capitalist if the capital necessary to provide those machines and tools does not exist at first, so I strongly believe that the definition of "expropriation of surplus value" does not have any microeconomical ground or foundation, inasmuch as labour alone has only an infinitesimal productive potential (and hence value) when not combined with capital. What Marx called the "expropriation of surplus value" I think is simply, under a microeconomicas perspective, the remunaration of one factor of production, which is (in this particular case) the return on capital, totally analogous to the return on labour (i.e. wage). More concisely, my perplexity is: why talk about expropriation of the surplus value, when the surplus value becomes feasible and is produced by the laborer only thanks to the capital provided by the capitalist? How could it be an expropriation, when there is this sinergy between labour and capital? Industrial Revolution was made possible by capital accumulation, so why did Marx blame capital so much? Perhaps society became less equitable, but i believe that even the most unlucky person in the world in 1870 was living better than a fair share of population 1000 years before.

  • @Max-nc4zn

    @Max-nc4zn

    5 жыл бұрын

    The state extracts surplus value from society every time it taxes or prints money, so to speak.

  • @chrismathew2295

    @chrismathew2295

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Max-nc4zn The state appropriates value from its citizens by means of coerced tax, and the bourgeois appropriates surplus value from its labourers by means of "profit". Thus, both are morally unjustified ─ all other things being equal.

  • @Max-nc4zn

    @Max-nc4zn

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chrismathew2295 taxation is theft, but profit does not necessarily imply theft.

  • @BobWidlefish
    @BobWidlefish6 жыл бұрын

    The words shortest book.

  • @tomek9401
    @tomek94016 жыл бұрын

    Christ did not talk about classes. He talked about the coming Kingdom that is not to be built by rebellion but with love and forgiveness. Greetings from Poland.

  • @verypoliticalhonkey2666

    @verypoliticalhonkey2666

    6 жыл бұрын

    Who cares.

  • @tomek9401

    @tomek9401

    6 жыл бұрын

    Christ went into the streets of Birmingham, he stayed in the rain and everyone just walked away. So he sighed for the Calvary.

  • @tomek9401

    @tomek9401

    6 жыл бұрын

    British poet*

  • @Max-nc4zn

    @Max-nc4zn

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jesus was a commie. Islam is based. Inshallah > deus vult.

  • @ubik_3786

    @ubik_3786

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jesus was an AnCom if there ever was one

  • @jamesbancroft2467
    @jamesbancroft24675 жыл бұрын

    financial investors and speculators don’t produce anything ; economic investors, entrepreneurs and laborers actually do something

  • @lucasfcnunes

    @lucasfcnunes

    4 жыл бұрын

    nah. i can start with liquidity and price amortization

  • @matthewsimmons9251
    @matthewsimmons92516 жыл бұрын

    what a brilliant insight!

  • @privateer1839
    @privateer18396 жыл бұрын

    What is Hans Hoppe's view of cryptocurrencies?

  • @JS-ju1xw

    @JS-ju1xw

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think he prefers gold but I’m not sure.

  • @chesterg.791

    @chesterg.791

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a free market 🤙 Greshams Law

  • @jamesbancroft2467
    @jamesbancroft24675 жыл бұрын

    younger people tend to be less wealthy b/c they have a shorter time preference

  • @BigEvan96

    @BigEvan96

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Stefan.

  • @thejdogcool

    @thejdogcool

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not really. It's because they haven't had as much time to accumulate capital as a middle aged person has.

  • @vcalv9354

    @vcalv9354

    3 жыл бұрын

    Young people are still developing the skills needed to accumulate capital.

  • @KittredgeRitter
    @KittredgeRitter6 жыл бұрын

    Ultimately there's nothing new or interested about life once you've studied. The only thing that's preventing progress is those who think they should always provide a antithesis to the truth.

  • @GoldHunter606

    @GoldHunter606

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aka degenerates coping and psychos appealing to the weakminded who are tempted by degeneracy

  • @makhnothecossack4948

    @makhnothecossack4948

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@GoldHunter606Odd, considering that you seem to consider yourself as a "sane" individual, while judging others because they don't live according to your personal biases.

  • @pedrosherpa5848
    @pedrosherpa5848 Жыл бұрын

    Could you please repost, with the corrected and integral sound. Some parts are missing. If that is not possible, please link the transcripts of the talk. Thanks

  • @PAsConservativeWeatherFan
    @PAsConservativeWeatherFan9 ай бұрын

    Marx was the deadliest man in human history, GOD BLESS CAPITOLSM!!!!!!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲✝️

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan6 жыл бұрын

    He was right about the character of European Jews, that's for sure.

  • @areez22

    @areez22

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheThreatenedSwan What is meant by "decreasing their fitness"?

  • @bobbilder8793

    @bobbilder8793

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@areez22 It means their relative reproductive success.

  • @blandragny9152
    @blandragny91526 жыл бұрын

    speed on 1.25%

  • @plekkchand

    @plekkchand

    4 жыл бұрын

    comprehension at 75%

  • @sheafisher3578
    @sheafisher35783 жыл бұрын

    Ya boy Triple-H at it again.

  • @jamesbancroft2467
    @jamesbancroft24675 жыл бұрын

    I’m an Austrian but if you think Marx was more right than Keynes you’re crazy

  • @bobbilder8793

    @bobbilder8793

    5 жыл бұрын

    Marx based his criticisms of capitalism on classical economics (David Ricardo, Adam Smith, etc). Keynes based his economic theory on the basis of control; he was totally full of shit, even more so than Marx.

  • @Anfwon
    @Anfwon3 жыл бұрын

    Marx's insight on the state is important even though when it comes to economics he is ignorant.

  • @cw4091
    @cw40914 ай бұрын

    "a Ruling class never comes to power because there is a demand for it" is an untrue statement as exemplified in: the Old Testament demand for a king by the people, the invitation of the vikings by the slavs to come rule over them to name at least two examples.

  • @peterrossi3349
    @peterrossi33494 жыл бұрын

    If it’s free

  • @karol9205
    @karol92053 жыл бұрын

    10:00 beautiful moment

  • @jaidengarcia980
    @jaidengarcia9802 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t understand any of this tbh lol

  • @peterrossi3349
    @peterrossi33494 жыл бұрын

    Taking my property

  • @peterrossi3349
    @peterrossi33494 жыл бұрын

    Free Hong Kong

  • @peterrossi3349
    @peterrossi33494 жыл бұрын

    Paid by ingsls

  • @emZee1994
    @emZee19942 жыл бұрын

    I love Hoppe, but both him and Marx are wrong here. Or rather, Rothbardian ethics are very wrong. The Moldbugian understanding of power and ethics is far, far better. Marx probably has some truth in his writings, but I'm not educated enough to find what it is But Hoppes criticism of Marx's idea about surplus value is absolutely correct

  • @sendadiestra7203

    @sendadiestra7203

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have watched several talks by Yarvin and I agree his views on power and power dynamics are - let's say - less simplistic, but could you ellaborate more on Ethics? I can see Ethics prominent and rigourous in Rothbard and Hoppe, but I still don't get a clear idea of Yarvin's Ethics.

  • @emZee1994

    @emZee1994

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sendadiestra7203 he is amoral, i.e. he doesn't talk about ethics. To him government is a tool, a operating system. Do what's most efficient as 99% of the time what government does is a managerial role and not a ethical issue

  • @sendadiestra7203

    @sendadiestra7203

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@emZee1994 Thank you, that was my impression.

  • @sendadiestra7203

    @sendadiestra7203

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@emZee1994 Maybe the best word to define his point of view is _machiavellian_ . When you talk about exercising power, ethics is out of the question.

  • @emZee1994

    @emZee1994

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sendadiestra7203 that's true too. He often quotes James Burnham's book "The Machiavellians, Defenders of Freedom". Which btw is an excellent book in its on right but it also serves as a good primer to Moldbug

  • @HWalla23
    @HWalla235 жыл бұрын

    "what marx got wrong is that he didn't want people to sell me their children"

  • @silviomanuel9403

    @silviomanuel9403

    4 жыл бұрын

    ha ha hilarious, great point! you refuted hoppe, congratulations!

  • @Sulpbot

    @Sulpbot

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cope

  • @xspartan346x

    @xspartan346x

    2 жыл бұрын

    like the pedophile elites in control of western states definitely do not do(trust me)

  • @bianco215

    @bianco215

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@xspartan346x those elite are capitalists tho aren't they

  • @hjalmaradolfsson4862
    @hjalmaradolfsson48624 жыл бұрын

    The problem is not so much socialism but Judaism. The solution is not so much capitalism but the White Race.

  • @silviomanuel9403

    @silviomanuel9403

    4 жыл бұрын

    great argument

  • @hjalmaradolfsson4862

    @hjalmaradolfsson4862

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Fllamber The jews as a people and the religion are intertwined, even if they claim to be atheists

  • @hjalmaradolfsson4862

    @hjalmaradolfsson4862

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Fllamber the difference is that there is no christian race, tribe or ethnicity, the christian religion is disconnected from race, judaism is however completely tied to the jewish race

  • @GeorgWilde

    @GeorgWilde

    3 жыл бұрын

    So you are telling met to give up my jewish friends for the sake of white racial predestination?

  • @vcalv9354

    @vcalv9354

    3 жыл бұрын

    Da fuck