GPD Win 4 is my favorite honestly

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's surprisingly built solid. The keyboard is a game changer for a Windows machine!

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@Rako10127

11 ай бұрын

Yup thanks

I really love my SteamDeck, especially when it comes to performance vs battery life. However for such a bulky boy it lacks on connectivity. Its absolutely awesome to see so much connectivity and a full sized 2280 on a GPD Win, especially with that processor update.

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's surprising that the steam deck only has the one usb-c input. They want you to buy that dock Lol. Definitely a plus to have all the inputs on the gpd stuff.

Very good review! I am buying the 7840U WIN 4! I like the comparison, definitely worth a follow

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Good choice! Thanks for the follow! - Stikz

@Visionary4787

11 ай бұрын

@@Level857 can i ask you one question? Could yo u possibly review the G1 eGPU and compare them across those handhelds? It would be awesome!!

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

I have an rtx 3090 desktop already so I really wouldn't need the g1. It's great if you need something small to boost your gpd device. Eta prime did a good video reviewing it if you didn't see. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fal_rcVvZtrYo8Y.htmlsi=PmByhF5d_1lW84Ep

@Randomness662

11 ай бұрын

@@Visionary4787 Since the Oculink port on the 7840U version of the WIN 4 isn't proprietary, you can build an Oculink eGPU enclosure that supports full fat desktop GPUs for it and it would blow the G1 out of the water. That's my suggestion at least.

Great video Stikz

@stikzlevel857

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Kag!

Thanks for this sir!

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for watching. - Stikz

You give me a flashback of Dominic Toretto while watching this, great review tho bro

not yet released but I'm hyped for the GPD Win Mini. Something actually pocketable with oculink support, keyboard, 120 Hz screen

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

The claimshell design with a 7 inch screen is looking nice. I would like to see how the controls are for extended play though. - Stikz

@FS-zt6tm

11 ай бұрын

@@Level857 probably identical to the Win Max 2 which I find useable. Not as comfortable as the Steam Deck but mainly because of it's weight...the win mini being half the weight of the Win Max 2 should help ergonomically

I was about to pull the trigger on an Ally, but now I’m intrigued by the LENOVO device that’s coming out in October. It looks to blow away everything out there on the market.

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

It'll come down to the weight and controls for me. I'll be checking it out! - Stikz

ROG Ally after Bios 323 update is fantastic. Laying in bed playing this every night is a game changer. AMD is releasing their new graphics drivers for the Z1 Extreme chip any day now. Keeps getting better

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Glad to hear the updates are making a difference! - Stikz

@BigDaddyMacc

11 ай бұрын

Same, playing cyberpunk in bed :)

Very honest and decent review , gpd win 4 does very loud 😂 and btw I bought exactly the same three devices as yours , and I returned gpd win 4 because the noise, the size , the heat and the dense weight but I do like the keyboard and trackpad.

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Trying the Ayaneo 2s next. Maybe that'll be the one. There's always another coming out with these lol. - Stikz

@emerald85

11 ай бұрын

@@Level857 thx for the advice , I’ve already had a rog ally , so far so good .

Luckily I own my GPD XD for about 5 years now and it still works like new. Hope my next GPD will be just about the same

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

I hope I share the same luck and get a solid ayaneo 2s next.

The GPD win 4 7840U comes out in September and it fixes the d-pad issue the 6800U had so it's more accurate. It also performs better than the ROG ally in many games by a few fps. They also included an Oculink port that gives it the ability to attach an external gpu that runs at 63gbps like the rog ally.

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

It's a good upgrade. D-pad improvements is what I like to hear. Like I said, if you can deal with the small screen it's great! - Stikz

@MusikCabaret

10 ай бұрын

yesm I think the newer GDP is absolute killer of a gaming handheld... but for that price I might as well go with a laptop with much more power. Maybe if they sell it on a black Friday for 35% I will consider it.

@SedahDunn

10 ай бұрын

They haven’t fixed the dead zone issue

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

Don't know if they ever will since they move on to other devices so fast. - Stikz

@user-in4ij8iq4c

7 ай бұрын

Oculink is not attractive but usb4 to connect thunderbolt egpu

I really like the older clamshell style gpd wins, i would love one of those with more power

@Level857

Ай бұрын

That would be the gpd win mini or win max 2.

For those wanting to know i myself have a rog and never had problems with my sf card reader it is a common problem on the older ones but they parched it up so it shoulden happen anymore but its still possible but for i think older kodels its 6/10 that might fry a reader or a sd card but the newer models are alot less from what ive heard put higher fan curve on the side where the sd card reader is so it wont reach temps over 55celsius i found this video good i am wanting to get a win 4 because of the egpu being cheaper and usable on other devices. And for me only thing my ally lacks is keyboard en track pad so im willing to go to some less power and lesser fps screen. Because most the game si play are 60 fps games with exception of Fortnite, overwatch and warframe those games i can hit 120 fps if i want to not on 1080 but thats not that something i mind its still looks great .

If you install windows on steam deck or dual boot both windows and steam os on the steam deck can you play all games ? Meaning windows games ? Like the games the ally can play

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Yes dual boot is possible on the steam deck. It wasn't good at first but improvements have been made. The opposite is also possible on the Windows machine to make it a steamOS machine. I recommend chimeraOS if you want that console feel on the Windows machines. I wish steam would hurry a release the official steam OS 3.5 for everyone already. - Stikz

I love my Win4. Playing FFXIV on the go is insane

@LeftyPencil

Ай бұрын

Did you need to disable parts of the UI to play? Did you scale anything up?

@funisinfinite6171

Ай бұрын

@@LeftyPencil Not really, it has great resolution, I just had to increase text size so I could read everything on the small screen

You should compare these to the ayaneo slide

@Level857

4 ай бұрын

If they supplied me a review unit I'd gladly let ya know what I think. These things get expensive quick! I'll keep giving my 2 cents when I can. Even when I have no sense left 😂. The slide is very similar to the gpd win 4 but the hinges are a bit less sturdy. Thanks for watching! - Stikz

i am going rog ally!

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

There's no wrong choice when dealing with these. Enjoy!

@BigDaddyMacc

11 ай бұрын

Good choice, beast of a machine! I had no problem with it, just tweak settings. I play at 15w 720p upscale 1080p get around 53~60 temp (even lower, depend on game), 50/60 fps on cyberpunk :) if i go 19/20w i think i can stay on 60fps. And using 6g atm.

win 4 7840 would have been a more appropriate comparison nowadays, also the upcoming mini

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

These consoles cost a pretty penny. And it's all out of pocket. I'd love to get the systems that came out yesterday lol. The new chipset is about 15% improvement. Not leaps different in performance. I do have an ayaneo 2s on the way though. Look forward to impressions on that. We'll see if that's a keeper or not. Thanks for watching!

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

I'd love to try it. I'd love for someone to do a d-pad comparison between that and the ayaneo. Cause that's my primary reason for going that route. Ayaneo has been considered the best feeling right now.

You said everything I felt about these devices. I owned a 6800u win 4. It was just too bulky, felt worse to hold then my deck. The screen size was too small for modern games. 7" is perfect. My friends have the ally. The joysticks where a deal breaker for me. I still have my deck and still hate the track pads and wish they would have the optical sensor from the gpd. I also have bought the upcoming onexfly. Onexplayer had basically copied the perfect control system of the deck. Easy to change tdp, resolution, fan curve, set fps limits, and auto tdp. It's the prefect size. Only thing I don't like about it is it's missing that little optical sensor from the gpd. Otherwise would have been a perfect device for me. Oh also I don't like the personalized rgb. I wish they would have just made it like the Onexplayer mini. It's a cleaner look.

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

I was tempted to buy the One player but it was announced after I ordered the ayaneo 2S. I should have impressions on that up soon. I also wanna see what the Lenovo legion go is like. The weight might be the deal breaker there. They announce to many handhelds!!! 😂 - Stikz

@creaturecore13

10 ай бұрын

@@Level857 the lenovo too me is not a handheld, its way too large and heavy. They built it too gimicky with all these extra features for vr and such. The reality is VR still sucks on a high hend gaming pc. Its not going to work well on the handheld. Plus intro price is 800. Issue is they have declared they are using the Z1 and Z1 extreme. That means for 800 you will only get the normal z1 which will be weaker than the deck. As much as the deck has its faults, the bad screen, the bulkiness, the poor placement of the controls, i think its still the best handheld outside of the aya geek 1s or 2s thats actually available right now. Issue with aya is their really bad qc and customer service. Onex seems to be a bit better in quality control but probably just as bad in customer service. I wish a company like either msi or razer comes in and makes a handheld like the onexfly or the geek 1s. Nice and compact but throw in that optical sensor.

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

These words you type... They're all true! Lol. For real, I agree with the whole statement. If the legion go is available at best Buy then I'd like to get some hands on with it. Anxiously waiting for impressions about it's weight and controls. - Stikz

It's worth noting that steamdeck has released more than a year ago, and was very buggy and messy during launch month. Asus Rog Ally and GPD win 4 are both very new, and still improving. Ally's latest BIOS update yesterday improved FPS by 15% and AMD is releasing its graphics drivers update soon.

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Yes, all these systems are improving with updates. Steam deck wasn't a perfect launch either as you said. The steam deck community can't be beat at the moment. But like you said, it's got a year head start and has matured. Hopefully the windows app development keeps growing.

How is GPD Win 4 on here over the Ayaneo 2 or 2S?

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Because one of those I owned the other two I did not. That will change soon. Be on the lookout. - Stikz

I cant decide between the Win4 pro or the Rog Ally... The bigger screen and 120hz really sways me towards the ally but i love everything about the win4, it looks amazing but only 60hz and 6" i really enjoy playing on my switch oled(7") because of the perfect screen size IMO. I need help! 😂😢

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

The 6 inch screen is really small when running newer PC titles. For emulation and portability is recommend it. If you want to play current titles then I definitely recommend the bigger 7 inch screen. Hope that helps. - Stikz

@xervantezxvi5022

11 ай бұрын

GPD win 4 all the way man I have gpd win 4 I’ve seen Rog ally it ain’t that good the screen it’s likes the same as Steam deck gpd win 4 has better screen and it’s super sharp and it plays smooth and it run window games I have GPD WIN 4 I love my GPD WIN 4 over my Steam deck Steam deck can’t run window

@solidust573

4 ай бұрын

Win 4 is trash. I had to return two of them for slow performance and overheating ​@@xervantezxvi5022

I think the best choice bought steam deck and if I felt boring put to it sandisk extreme A2 and install window 🙃👍

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's cool we got options. Linux or Windows. - Stikz

Just ordered a gpd win 4 7840u very anxious cause of the bad quality control lol

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

Mine was solid. No problems with the build. Hope you get a good one! Enjoy! - Stikz

@lavablock1637

10 ай бұрын

@@Level857 Alright Thankyou man, have a nice day :).

I thought this was greatness u sound just like him

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

It's that a person? I've never heard of him. Thanks for checking the video out. - Stikz

I need a modern Android phone like that gpd win 4

@Level857

6 ай бұрын

I haven't seen a dedicated slide keyboard phone in years. I do remember having the htc g1 & g2. Fun times! If you want a great Android handheld, you should take a look at the Odin 2. Great value and performance! - Stikz

I would say that if you dont use an sdcard on Ally it could be great device. Thats where problems starts and ends. You can put about 3 big gameS on 512 SSD and thats not much so you need to buy new SSD. At this point it gets really pricey. I dont think they can solve the sd card issue, becouse an SD card can endure around 85° Celsius and CPU gets up to 95° + heat from the sd card make pretty high temperature already.

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

That'll be the safest work around if you're worried about sd cards. m2 ssd hard drives have dropped over 50% this month. Worth looking into also. It's an easy swap. - Stikz

RoG ally for serious gaming and GPD Win 4 for light gaming while in car or park

@Level857

9 ай бұрын

That works! - Stikz

I think steam deck is still the best since both the system and software constantly gets optimized to run better. Also the price and quality are really good.

@Level857

9 ай бұрын

For now it's still keeping up. Those updates help. - Stikz

After having my hands on alot of handhelds, here is my preference: - Form factor: Rog Ally - Screen: Rog Ally - Buttons and Joy sticks placement: Rog Ally - Joy Sticks: Aya Neo 2 - Trigger: Aya Neo 2 - Buttons: Aya Neo 2 - OS: Steamdeck

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Yup! That seems to be the common consensus. Except form factor. Allot love the steam deck for form factor. - Stikz

@TheUltimateHacker007

9 ай бұрын

Back buttons are too underrated and only the deck has 4 of them

Gpd for sure it runs full on windows much smaller and has a bult in key board

My Ally has been amazing since I bought it 2 weeks ago, especially after the Bios 323 update. I game when my 1 year old finally goes down 😅

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Nice! Handhelds gaming has changed how allot of people play. - Stikz

Steam deck babyy❤

I have the ally.. Its nice. Once u get windows 11 acting right..

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Oh yeah I agree! And I had it that way. That's why when the problems were coming up I was so heart broken. - Stikz

Oh yeah they coming hard think they need to do better more power or strong More Handhelds PC I'm liking it....... I have the Steam Deck I took the ROG Ally back don't tell only one tho. This supposed to be the holy Grail 🤣🤳

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Lol I won't tell! Enjoy your steam deck! - Stikz

ASUS back at it with the design flaws and relying on software to try and amend them! Lets GOOOOOO! :D Bringin the component cooking from desktops to handhelds

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately. - Stikz

@BigDaddyMacc

11 ай бұрын

Im at 40~60 temp... cooking? Only deckers playing rog at ultra max 30w 95+ temp XD just use you head and Rog is a beast of a machine ;) Do you know what i had to do to swap m.2? Update bio, take off back cover, swap M.2, cover back on, power rog ally and press recovery... all done ;)

@Ghost88o9

11 ай бұрын

Would be cool if you could take the screen and APU from the ROG and swap it with the steam decks 🔥

There is the one even better Onexplayer 2 pro . Same characteristics, BUT it has 8.4" screen, 17500mah battery, AAND the detachble joysticks like Nintendo!!!

@devangadhia3634

11 ай бұрын

not bluetooth tho

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

A bit too chunky for my taste and I didn't hear good things about the d-pad. But if I had a chance to try it out myself, I'd give it a shot. But I'll probably never see that though unless someone sent me one. - Stikz

@Qishqildaq

11 ай бұрын

@@devangadhia3634 5.2nd ,how would the pads work then !? Also wiith wifi 6.

I hated the track pads until I tweaked them to the perfect sensitivity , now I love ‘em . FPS play way better then the sticks ever could.

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

I heard after tweaking them they can become way better. I don't play fps games what so ever so they got no use. I hate using mouse and keyboard too lol.

If only the gpd win 4 wasn't 1200 dollars. :'[

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the prices are coming down. Unfortunately not for spec'd out versions from China. - Stikz

you recommended steamdeck over the ones. Its slower, heavier and bigger. I dont see your logic.

@Level857

10 ай бұрын

It's not just about specs. It's all good though. Feel free to pick what you like. I just compared them. No need to agree with my logic. Thanks for watching!

maybe you don't know how to use the back buttons? bind A/B/X/Y on them, like on every other device (besides the stupid deck).

@Level857

9 ай бұрын

Don't know how...? I wouldn't say that. You just push right? I'm pretty sure that's how they work. - Stikz

My dog ally broke while shipping

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

That sucks. No Best Buy around? - Stikz

Steam deck 1+year , Rog ally 1+month... stop comparing. Im not going to watch video cause i know already whats going to be said.. and its annoying. Cause rog ally is a beast if you know what you doing.

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

Didn't say it wasn't a beast. I actually said it had the most power. That wasn't the problem. Thanks for commenting though. - Stikz

@cocobos

11 ай бұрын

SD 1st month also had problems but Valve really quick about it unlike Asus.

@jeffreyali1456

11 ай бұрын

@@cocobosAsus pretty much fixed most of the issues and are about to release AMD drivers for the Z1 Extreme chip and for more optimization, performance and battery life

@Level857

11 ай бұрын

The updates are finally coming and things are beginning to look up for the ally. - Stikz

@cocobos

11 ай бұрын

@@jeffreyali1456 they fix the SD card problem?