Great instructional video. Didn’t breeze through the highlights, actually walked us through the process with reasoning for each step and then a recap at the end👍

This is exactly why the finger around the trigger guard grip works for me, but not so well for other people. Most people end up applying lateral pressure with that finger. This pulls shots left. I consciously apply downward pressure, and the trigger guard gives me an insane amount of "leverage" to be able to do that. This grip also allows me place more support hand "skin" onto the grip, and also puts that hand in a higher, and more forward position on the gun itself(closer to the muzzle). My grip also allows me to naturally have a solid forward wrist cock, without it feeling forced, or even painful. I also move my strong hand slightly around the gun. This puts my trigger finger in the sweet spot, and also gives my support hand more room to place on the left side of the grip. Jerry Miculek uses this grip often, and I can't understand why it isn't being taught more. I've experimented a long time with different grips, and my grip is by far superior over anything else I have tried. To each his own...

@kings1048

4 жыл бұрын

With the finger over the trigger guard you put firm pressure with your dominant hand? Like enough pressure with dominant hand before gun start to shake?

@onpsxmember

2 жыл бұрын

It highly depends on the hand size and how big the trigger guard is or more how far it extends forward to benefit from it. If it works for your hands and the chosen firearm, that's great. If that combination doesn't work out, it weakens the grip.

@napoleonmagpantay3866

Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t work if you have a weapon mounted light - which you should have for any use outside of competition.

Love your vid as is..I was reading Rubin comment he means well but honestly I enjoyed the straight forward explanation ( which really improved my performance)and so much so I subscribed saw all other vids..keep up great and we'll explained info which is all I really need.

Love coming here and learning more and more with each visit.

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

2 жыл бұрын

We are glad that our content is helpful!

Thanks Ken...you're rocking it :)

Nice vid

Great video!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@sertaoarmas1145

4 жыл бұрын

O papiro não para nunca! Parabéns

Hand grip couldn't have been dissected any better...tpc does it again

Thanks!

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

Жыл бұрын

Any time 👍🏻

I’ve had an instructor tell me not to use any pressure on the strong side pinky because it cause the gun to be pushed left to right but more pressure on the middle and ring finger. I have to go back and try it your way again because for me when I did loosen up my pinky pressure the shots weren’t going to the left, me being a right handed shooter.

I need a shirt like that!

Would love to see where the palm of the support hand sits on the gun. Thanks!

@HStiz420

3 жыл бұрын

that is technically where the "C clamp" grip should be implemented, Not the Primary grip hand.

Conceptually this sorta made sense BUT, how actually do it, was so nebulous I brain could not make it work. Think, " Just how do I do this?" with no answer forth coming.

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

Жыл бұрын

Please watch: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYqio9SolJunlMo.html and kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4mCrdCugqjbe5c.html 👍🏻

Thanks Ken! I noticed that I have actually been doing a more exaggerated grip. Instead of an upside-down "U" or a "C", my grip looks more like a right-side-up "U". I have been basing my grip on the location of my thumb and index finger knuckles trying to position them on either side of the tang as high as I can, but then the knuckles of my other fingers are not in front of the pistol grip. When I try the C grip, I notice that my hand is not as snug against the tang, but there are other aspects of the grip I like. My question is, have you seen this exaggerated grip (like a right-side-up "U") with your students and has it caused any problems for your students? Hope that made sense!

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

2 жыл бұрын

Good starting point is to position the tang of the gun just in the middle of the web of your shooting hand. Then just wrap the fingers on the front strap and squish them against the grip to form friction. You can make micro corrections of the position of your shooting hand only if you can not reach the trigger with your trigger finger. Bun in general the above described method is a good starting point. C grip is more mental visualization, that will help the support hand palm heel to close the gap firmly with your shooting hand palm. There is not plenty of space behind the gun for the support hand - focus on the mental effect of the C clamp!

As for elbows , do you extend and lock them out or leave a bent ? Is it better to have elbows closer in for better control ?

@onpsxmember

2 жыл бұрын

There is a video with Ron showing how to find that position by bending forward and letting the arms freely hang vertically. You'll notice there is a natural bend to them and then he adds the handgun and brings the arms back horizontally standing straight again. It should be here on the channel. That natural hanging position is easy to reproduce. In a different video here and on different channels I heard locking out the elbows leads to big damage and need for surgeries later on. That of course is different for .22lr target shooting where the elbow is even overextended but that's a different world of extreme precision one handed shooting with little recoil.

1:18 thats what she said

Hi Ken, Will you rest your thumb on the ramp of the frame when shooting glock? And do you remember Ron did that or not?

@kennelson2045

3 жыл бұрын

Generally not. And I don’t think he did either.

@siuwong8930

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennelson2045 thanks Ken, I hope TPC will do online course or release some training camp video for people like me who live outside the USA, especially some Ron's video like pliable hand/draw stroke can't find anymore at the Internet, if that comes ture I think we will very happy to pay for that.

@onpsxmember

2 жыл бұрын

@@siuwong8930 Check out the online thing of tactical hyve. They have a collaboration with TPC. I'll try that and get to a TPC class the year after.

Great information, hope I'm being helpful to you when I say the following : If you're posting vids to promote your training facility you may want to go through KZread and look up a lot of how to videos on making modern style KZread videos. To start probably audio quality would be first, then video resolution and better camera angles etc. Alec Steele is a kid that improved his blacksmithing videos and makes more money from KZread and merch than he had been from his classes. It's also helpful to find something you can be an expert AND a filter for. If you look at active self protection channel he presents well as an expert on analyzing violent encounters as well as a good filter to avoid missinformation on the subject. He's also a firearms instructor. Warrior Poet acts as a firearms expert and a filter for how to be a real man, or a warrior poet as he call it. You may have to try a few things before something sticks but definitely improve video quality so you get more views and thus get more feedback and data to decide where to steer things. I have seen Ron easily improve shooters much faster than any other trainer I've encountered, the product is perfect, get the delivery to the same level of the training and you'll see a huge bump in online performance.

@sharper9009

5 жыл бұрын

Kephra Rubin Umm dude they don’t need promotion for their business. They run one of the top training facilities in the United States. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about or who TPC even is.

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

5 жыл бұрын

Ken N here. I admit to struggling on video quality. I do it in HD, but it doesn't always make it there. I've got a new Sony camera I'll be switching to, and I'm learning new software, and I'm also about to contract to have 2 indoor sets built. Naturally, though, I'd prefer to do more out on the range.

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

5 жыл бұрын

@@sharper9009 I agree with him largely. We need to up our video production values, on the filming side of it. And thanks for the kind words. -- Ken N.

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

5 жыл бұрын

@LD Wyze thanks. (-: I do wonder sometimes why complete nonsense has 300K views, and our, what I think is really good info, is lucky to get 14K. -- Ken N.

@kephrarubin

5 жыл бұрын

@@TacticalPerformanceCenter Hey Ken, thanks for taking my comment in the spirit it was intended. Lighting plays a big role in resolution, and having a body mic helps with audio but shotgun mics work too. This KZread video isn't perfect but it does a good job of showing key simple things that improve video quality quick and easy. You'll improve 80% of what you need to and can work on that elusive 20% later. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKiAuKqRhbu0fqQ.html I'm a consultant in NY and donate my free-time no charge when I can to support 2A movements here. I've worked with 30 instructors so far on everything from websites, seo, public speaking etc. Etc. So when I offer my input it's not to be derogatory, it's because I like what you're doing and want to see you grow. Thanks for embodying what an instructor truly is.

The "C Clamp" is meant for the support hand, Not the primary grip hand. smfh

c clamp... on a pistol... next he is gonna tell us to turn it sideways.

Waaaay late to the party,.. but there IS some rotational force with the shot. The spent case is ejected to the side,.. Newton’s Third Law! I’ve seen this with both rifles & handguns. Granted it’s more noticeable on pistols when one is shooting one handed,.. but that side to side force will still be there with a two handed grip so it’s possible that it could be a factor in recoil management. Juss sayin’!!

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean by rotational force, and what is the correlation with the side ejection of the empty case?

@chomps1211

Жыл бұрын

@@TacticalPerformanceCenter I meant to say "side to side" force. It may be minimal. With a 2 handed grip, it might even be completely negligible, but it does exist. Ive seen it especially with ppl shooting one handed. The pistol recoil moves not only up & back but somewhat to the side opposite of the ejected case. Just being Pedantic! 😄😉

@TacticalPerformanceCenter

Жыл бұрын

@@chomps1211 You can play applying different side-to-side pressure magnitudes symmetrically, like if you put your arms together with palms against each other in a natural extension. You will feel a little engagement of the outside of your pectoral muscles. Then make a string of several shots and observe the sights. Find out when the front sight will stay centered the most!