Hand Drilling Granite - Does It Make Sense?
I bought a new 3/4" hand drill from Trow and Holden and attempted drilling a 4" hole. I drilled an equivalent hole with my rotary hammer drill for comparison's sake.
I bought a new 3/4" hand drill from Trow and Holden and attempted drilling a 4" hole. I drilled an equivalent hole with my rotary hammer drill for comparison's sake.
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I guess it really makes you appreciate what the Incas and Egyptians were up to. Looking forward to seeing you build the hobbit house!
@charles5259
Жыл бұрын
Harder times with stronger people
@Tsuchimursu
Жыл бұрын
@@charles5259 and a bunch of slaves in many cases... forced labour wasn't rare in stone quarries for a reason.
@damnkris
Жыл бұрын
"The Great Pyramid was built by quarrying an estimated 2.3 million large blocks weighing 6 million tonnes in total". The amount of work it took is almost incomprehensible.
@barbarahouk1983
Жыл бұрын
There are videos challenging hand tools used in the construction of the pyramids precisely because of the difficulties. But this would mean humans LOST knowledge & technology. We are in the process of losing world gained knowledge now. The last big loss was 2,000 years to recover knowledge. Aristotle remarked he thought there was a more developed technology society before his. This would be 3x's; how many more cycles has our species been through?
@defeqel6537
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Though IIRC the stone used was also softer than granite.
As a retired union journeyman stone and marble and granite mason, I always used 'short handled' 6 or 8 pound hand sledges for doing what you were trying, among other stone shaping chores. I apprenticed with a 16th generation stone mason - his family was from Italy. When he first showed me that 'wrist flick' he used, Drew explained the weight of the hammer head was enough without trying to add 'force' with a big swing. Besides that, I could get more strikes a minute. Drew said my forearm and wrist would be sore for about 2 weeks when first starting, but would strengthen - he was right on all counts. Your quarry location caught my attention because I used to buy all of my stone hand tools from Trow & Holden in Barre. By the way...BEAUTIFUL granite - some of those pieces I've seen in your videos is tombstone quality stuff. You be one lucky mason to have found a 'grandfathered' granite quarry. Me thinks you'll do well with your quarry venture! Cheers...
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this comment. I used to have a 6 lb hammer that I liked, but lost it when I moved back from MT. Trow and Holden doesn't seem to have them these days, and I haven't found a suitable replacement yet. I can envision the wrist flick, and can understand how you might get more powerful blows in less time, I can picture the hammer rebounding off a good strike. I will try it out.
@ross6343
Жыл бұрын
@@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062 The best part [after getting over the soreness] was far less fatigue at the end of the day. Plus, that 'striking style' was carried over into my other chiseal work like using a 'pitching' chisel [I noticed you using one in another video] or setting 'scores' for hand stone shaping. It also helped in doing delicate work like carving letters and numbers into both granite and marble. If I lived in your neck of the woods, I'd be knocking on your door! About them hand sledges I used for brut work...I'd get mine at Home Depot or Lowes and cut the handles to lenght. Cheers...
@ehombane
Жыл бұрын
@@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062 With the experience of modern technology, I can see that there can be simple devices that simplify the work. The drill should be in a piece of wood, and with an uneven tip will jump and twist. So all you need is to hammer. If this does not work the jump should be done by a spring. Can be made of wood too. And the rotation can be done by a zigzag channel in the wood. Similar to ballpoint pen mechanism. There were guys inventing clockworks. How nobody invented this? If the wood was wearing too fast, they had metal working, since they could make the drill and the hammer. And the hammering implies a lot of effort too. So adding to this a wheel with dents around the perimeter hitting the drill would have helped a lot. better to use a crank than hammering. Maybe somebody did it, but kept it as guild secret.
Great music.
For anyone interested, there is a great video on KZread about how stone masons built castles in like the year 1300. It's pretty long, 6 documentary episodes in a single almost 5 hour video on KZread. The Title: What was life like as a medieval castle builder | secrets of the castle.
@RandyLea
Жыл бұрын
I really like the 13 knot rope tool they used
@myzacky96
Жыл бұрын
I'll check it out!
I enjoyed seeing the math break down behind the hand drill. Very interesting
Fun to see you work. Perhaps you could make a beginners journey series. Also, some more videos on your amazing land please.
@ross6343
Жыл бұрын
As someone who apprenticed to become a stone mason, this video is good 'intro' into how apprentices started learning the craft - learning to use a hammer and chisel.
Watching this demonstration, made me think about in times past why it took so long to build using stone and how grueling it could be.
Two inches in thirteen minutes? That's good; I see why hand drilling was viable back when it was necessary.
Thanks for showing me about something I know nothing about.
@Damodeg
Жыл бұрын
thats a great comment made me laugh hehe
rainy days can be no joke in the mountains, creeks can become temporary water rapids. it was pretty cool to see
I saw you on Gold Shaw Farm so I came over and subscribed. My Dad was born in Barre, he was a stone mason for many years before I was born and some of my relatives worked in various Quarries. I still have relatives who live in VT and other New England states. I haven't been up there to visit for many years.
John Henry only had to keep up with a steam drill! This Man-vs-Machine was over before it started haha Thanks for the entertainment
@jima1135
Жыл бұрын
It it killed him to do that much!
I appreciated the editing. Watching 2 events at the same time is a neat editing technique. It is also informative since humans learn my compared experiences. I really don't blame you for not choosing hand drilling. It is a nice historical lesson. Sorry I am 6 days late but it's been a hectic week. Stay healthy and keep adding video. I'm in your cheering section.
My Grandfather work as a chisel holder when they put a highway through their area when he was 12. For 45 cents a day. He had 2 guys with sledge hammers hitting the chisel and would have to turn it a 1/4 turn in between each strike. He made 15 cents more than his Father who was a logger. That was 60 some years ago. Amazing how far we have come.
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
Egads, he must have taken a few mis-strikes on that job!
@donmisener
Жыл бұрын
@@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062 not one. It amazed me how he would do it for the length of a bit. It was for the blasting for the highway. The stories he had were amazing. I can see you and your son making good memories. Thanks for sharing!
@donmisener
Жыл бұрын
@@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062 now that I'm thinking on it, it was much longer than 60 years ago. It would have been in the 40's. It was in northern Ontario.
Ha! I don't have any rock climbing friends that'd be impressed by hand drilling vs power hammer drill
Good luck with the new business.
Great music, it was paired perfectly with your work! It's touches like this that make watching someone's channel enjoyable.
I have to admire your dedication to the stone you are a very good teacher your music cool 👍👍👍
I cannot wait until your next video comes out...loved the music, loved the split screen, loved everything about your video...thanks for the enjoyment
Amazing video! Don't worry about the audio issues! I think your current audience have the patience to enjoy the content while things are ironed out. I can already see improvements from video to video! and this in itself is very entertaining IMO
I would always have assumed power tools were faster, but it was interesting to see this demonstration and to see just how much faster.
Congratulations on the channel, hope it keeps going well!
Could you do a video that gives up a close up look at the granite that you are working with and any variations in the rocks that there are? Close enough to see that grains in the rocks? I love rocks and seeing it up close would be very interesting to me.
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
Will do
@renn8827
Жыл бұрын
@@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062maybe you could borrow the microscope from Morgan that he has used in videos. Can you possibly show us more of the property and the wildlife that inhabits it
Thanks for showing us different types of ways to do stuff. Appreciate the video. Out
Hammering a hole through granite manually is hard work. I had to hand drill using a star bit and a 5 pound hammer into 4 inch granite 8 different holes for running transmission wires thru.
back in the day they usually had a lot of people hitting the chisels with sledges!
would love to see a How To on building a granite retaining wall and the obstacles concerning the region (deep freeze and thaws, drainage, settlement ect.
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
I will try to get to that before the year is through, it's definitely on my list. I have four different styles of wall that I want to build up there.
Also don’t have friends that are impressed with hand drilled holes. Probs a good thing. Hipsters. 😂
Thanks Alfred!! What an interesting video! I know nothing about working stones... Rocks.... Just find it immensely interesting!! Thank you for sharing!
Excellent. Thank you so much. You put yourself through torture for us!! Really found your stemming water flow as well. Thank you Alfred.
Send that rain to Washington State. No rain for over 100 days!
The music is fabulous
Hey Alfred 👋😁👍
Love your choice of music, very catchy toon, and I let all your ads play through
❤ your work and video Keep doing it, and keep being too natural
We love VT and the beautiful masonry work that you and your colleagues have designed and installed. It's cool that you have your own quarry. Thanks for sharing your videos. Keep it up.
I'm so glad I found this channel. I'm so into learning new things. How others make their living and just enjoy life and family. You are a very interesting human. Thanks for showing us how good things were and are still being made and produced by good old fashion muscle and brains.
I'm loving these videos! also the audio is wonkey because of the humidety/rain. I you can keep the mic dry is wont change/ crackle.
@OokamiNoGatsu
Жыл бұрын
seconding this! its also possible that (if you're using an external mic separate from your camera) a connection came loose between the two. otherwise, this fine person's information is spot on.
@RonnaHarlow
Жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed the "wonky" audio! It seemed to add more "personality" to an already interesting video!!
Sounds like rain hitting the camera microphone.
Stonemason 👋 ... . My old tutor in college told me stories of the ole quarry techniques. When drilling using this method in the quarries , often a young apprentice would hold the chisel and tuen it while four men with sledge hammers would each strike it in turn . They were a well oiled machine and would sing songs to the beat of their tools
Great to see around the quarry
Love your videos. Very different and interesting.
We live in the woods of North Georgia(Ellijay,Ga.) and we love your post!
The single-jack(one man working the hammer and the drill) and double-jack(one man holding the drill, and one or two men swinging the hammer) process were no easy thing. The men who performed those jobs were tough and determined. I'm sure you would be a lot faster with practice. Stick with the drill. Great stuff, Alfred!
Thanks, I can show this to my crazy ancient alien family member who thinks granite can only be cut by diamond
Love the channel man!
That song really grew on me lol. Great video. Your voice and vocabulary are relaxing and enjoyable. I don't think I've ever said that to another man....
So....I'm not sure you are aware, but there was an issue with the audio occasionally. :P
Instead of making a very long comment I'll summarize by simply saying this : I love everything in that video. Thanks for the great content! :D
Thank you for teaching us beautiful ! Thank God for power tools !
Loved the way you split screened this very nice touch.
Fun stuff, love the videos and the music!!!!!!
Amazing the time and effort saved with electric drills and modern equipment! The amount of math required in stone work would have eliminated me! 😂plus being an old lady with no strength! Guess I’ll just watch you and learn from my recliner. Thanks for the videos!
Love the channel! Toby dog sent me
I don't know about a compressor, but in Northern Ontario you can probally pick up a pneumatic Jack leg drill or a Stoper for relatively cheap as they are almost obsolete as Jumbo Drills are the norm in most mines these days, just a thought.
See this is why I like you, " I tried an intro in the rain but it was raining" 😂
New subscriber from Gold Shaw Farm. I wanted to be sure and support your new venture, Albert. I wish you the very best of luck.
Dude, it is getting too cold to be working in the rain. Stray dry! :D
Alfred, when I was about 7 years old my Dad had mining claims with some like minded men up here in Timmins ON Canada, but being poor they hand steeled Quartz outcrops to set-up blasts. I have a photo of myself, my Dad, and one of the other prospectors hand steeling a drill hole to be blasted, my job being only to pour some water to cool the bit down when told to do so, though I don't remember the actual blast, bummer but in my adult underground mining career, I blasted daily.
Love the channel and all the videos on it but I think it's safe to say the drill was a little faster than the chisel, Just a little though.
Love the music! Was a hand hammer and drill just done by one person or were there a team of two? One to hold and twist the drill while the other hammered?
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
I would have thought the former exclusively, but judging by some of the other comments here, occasionally they would work in teams.
Most interesting! Thanks for letting us in to your world with stone.
Albert. You need some rain gear. I worked in the rain before. You need a good suit but the hat or hood is the secrete to keep rainfrom going down your neck
love the music choice!
This video gave me meories of what broken stone smells like
This is a fascinating video and well worth the time you spent making it. I've done a similar test with an old 1/2" cross tip stone drill that belonged to my grandfather. It worked about the way the beautiful hand drill you chose but did not cut quite as effectively. It's clear that the weight of the hammer blow falling is sufficient and no additional force is necessary to drill a hole. It's a slow way to make a hole in granite from another era but it does work. Anyone who is interested in stone work should learn how to use the old tools even if you, like most of us, use power tools routinely. There is a certain amount of mental perspective and accomplishment from hand drilling a line of wedge and feather holes and splitting a piece of granite entirely by hand. My Buddhist friends would say that there is a Zen lesson to be learned. I don't know about that, but I did both gain a respect for the people who spent their lives building with stone by hand and the permanence of the work they built. Drilling a set of 1/2" holes by hand is definitely a an experience that was worth having. But no I use a power drill on granite when I do some granite splitting. What doing it myself taught me was that it can be done and I can do it the old way too.
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
11 ай бұрын
It was an interesting experience for sure! It definitely makes me appreciate modern drills
Thank You!
Agree power tools sure make a heck of a lot of difference, imagine nowadays lasers and/or sound waves (ultra sonic vibrations) could be utilized but perhaps not cost effective for a small operation, unless you hit the lottery, big time. Admire your tenacity.
Very interesting video .All the best from Tassie Australia.
Have you ever thought of making custom headstones?
@georgedavidson1221
Жыл бұрын
That was my idea. Not sure where they come from and cost ???
Thank you for another interesting video. OMG, what a lot of work to hand chisel a chunk of granite! I had no idea how this was even done - you have showed us all. I think you have a real talent with making videos, and making them interesting. The use of the split screen really put a perspective on things. Best of luck with your new stone quarry. I sincerely look forward to your upcoming videos. I "subscribe" to a lot of KZread channels, but I have not seen a channel like yours before.
I like the video but I would prefer hearing the sound of hitting the granite! Keep it up good work
I watched most videos then I realized I was using data and not WiFi. Still in the habit of Limited Data Plan. 😊😊 I apologize the ignorant comment about how to take care of the land. You do care. Thanks for caring and repurposing. ❤
LOVE THIS THANK YOU
Just subscribed on recommendation from Gold Shaw Farm. Good on you for starting your own channel. Good luck!
Would hand drilling have been a two man operation? One to handle the chisel one to do the striking? I'm guessing that the market space is too small for such a thing but it seems like someone smarter than me could engineer a tool that you could insert the chisel into to provide a more ergonomic grip and contain a trigger based ratcheting mechanism so that you wouldn't need to flip your wrist back and forth.
Love the series. Just found your channel and have already made it through all the videos. Record everything! And sort it out later. I want to see it all come together. The quarry and the stone cutting. Heck, you need a volunteer? Keep up the great work!!
Beautiful music
Your personality is really coming thru. Loved the split screen and music. (You are using music in the public domain, right? So you don’t have to pay copyright fees? I hope so.) The title you put on the thumbnail itself, in red … it’s hard to read. Doesn’t stand out. I think the font is too skinny. Maybe use block letters instead? Instead of repeating the video title, maybe put, ‘Which Will Win’. Btw, you can change the thumbnail anytime as many times as you want w/o losing the view count nor comments. So if you’re unsure what to write, just choose one. If views are low, change it up to see if it does better. Just my thoughts. Liked this video though. Please show us how you do the gutter thing in the road too.
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
Morgan pointed me towards Epidemic Sound, and I have been cruising their catalog. The fonts in the thumbnails have been frustrating, especially because I am no good with Photoshop. I actually spent some time this evening looking for a new font with an outline that will stand out better. I appreciate the feedback, keep it coming!
File this under the work smarter not harder category.
ouch - that looks like it hurts. thanks for sharing
Knowing how the vibration of each blow goes through your hand, I thought you did very well simply to keep going for that long.
Cave House!!!
definitely not like scythe versus lawn mower where you can do the same job in pretty much the same time just not as evenly xD
Kudos for the "veritable" at 7:12 😉
I would love to see what's the inside of the rocks look like after you open them up.
Wow your channel got ads now kudps to you ❤️❤️❤️
very interesting
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Hard, tiring work.
Hey Alferd you show make a video about make a piece of rode using stones. Also will you consider getting a machine that makes gravel
What if you created a scenic waterfall feature with the runoff water running into it do you think you could carve a waterfall feature into the rock for the run off water into the river you mentioned there was. I have seen a lot of properties that the value increases with a waterfall feature. Your videos are very entertaining and informative and I’m extremely excited to see what you do with the property after you finish quarrying it in Ohio there are alot of really nice rocky feature parks like Nelson’s ledges and millcreeks lantern-mans mill and this is a beautiful property with so much potential. Do you own the property on the other side of the river would you be able to do a stone bridge?
Great video! Thanks Alfred! Random question, where’d you get that hat? It looks great!
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
I custom ordered it from a dude in Australia; Creatures of the Wild Unknown. I found him on Instagram. I even sent him a buffalo nickel Concho to incorporate into the hatband
@shaunt4118
Жыл бұрын
@@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062 that’s so rad! Thank you!
Those olden times guys must have wrecked their shoulders and wrists and necks.
I love this useless/weird trial.
Maybe you could get the tools and then shout out to a mechanical KZreadr who has a powerful enough compress for a collaboration
Don't be afraid to redo your intros and such a couple times many channels do several retakes.. It looks so nice up there if your roads are long enough maybe atv rentals would be a blast there. Of course probly need some safety rails on the sharp cliff turns
the hammer drill bit, how expensive and how long do they last?
@vermontheritagegranitecomp2062
Жыл бұрын
That one was around $50, they last until the carbide busts off, and that can be quite a while. This drill is probably a little oversized for the 1/2" holes that I generally drill, and I think it leads to premature failure. In short, $50, hundreds of holes.
Well done on getting 2in done in short order - it's the kinda thing I'd do...once! P.s. Morgan might not be your your friend, but you'd deny Toby dawg?
How do you carve something like a curve on a piece of granite?