Hana Umami Red VS Hana MH - Phono Cartridge Comparison - Vinyl

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Signal chains:
Hana Umami Red - Jelco TK-850s - Modded Technics SL-1200MK2 - Rothwell MCX - Audio Research LP1SE
Hana MH - Jelco TK-850s - Modded Technics SL-1200MK2 - Audio Research LP1SE
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00:00 Intro
00:12 Round 1: On The Fly
03:23 Round 2: Sample after sample
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Пікірлер: 142

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 Жыл бұрын

    If the letters weren't changing on the screen, I bet you could play this to every "audiophile" on the planet and they wouldn't know they were listening to 2 different cartridges being constantly switched.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Have you tried the lossless files?

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @tarquineous

    @tarquineous

    Жыл бұрын

    You are right, but you could include any group, not just "audiophiles" in general. The most important quality of this video, and other tests, is to be able to hear just what the differences are, and therefore decide which one to purchase.

  • @mykolamisyura8107

    @mykolamisyura8107

    Жыл бұрын

    I can hear the difference even on YT with cheap office on-ear headphones. A is fuller, more body sound. Enjoy it more. B seems to have less body, probably more details. More body on strings and vocals is better for me, but it could vary on different type of music.

  • @z.s.9855
    @z.s.9855 Жыл бұрын

    Wow it’s really difficult to tell these cartridges apart. A has slightly more air and a bit more extended top end but B sounds slightly fuller with a bit more body. Really really close! I would say A is the Red and B is the MH. Amazing comparison and keep up the good work!

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 🤩 A: 49 votes B: 24 votes No winner: 10 I'll unveil which is which tomorrow 🙂

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @AubMar
    @AubMar3 ай бұрын

    I would have selected B as slightly more open, airy and detailed but honestly wouldn't know without the A B on screen - they are extremely close in Audio terms but not in $$$

  • @gsherlock
    @gsherlock Жыл бұрын

    I think B is the Unami, a little more open, definitely some more depth.

  • @dylancyclotraveller8576
    @dylancyclotraveller8576 Жыл бұрын

    B is a bit more subtile. B is Unami

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dylan 👍 For the moment A is leading the way by a small margin

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @lshin80
    @lshin80 Жыл бұрын

    A is more open and airy and has more micro details than B. A = Umami, B = MH.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your valuable opinion 🙏

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    A is leading the way so far 😉

  • @RT-ri8lb
    @RT-ri8lb Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic bit of content! Thank You! It's a real treat for me to listen so intently for the smallest details. Both sound so good to me. Wearing wireless B&W headphones was a little disconcerting hearing some background 'knocking' and sort of wooden clatter very low in the mix. Couldn't tell if it was piano hammers or pedals or something else random in the studio. I had to remove the headphones to make sure it wasn't happening in my house. As far as which is which , I agree with most of the comments about 'air' in A, but also I think B has a more sophisticated soundstage presentation...so at the moment I think B is the Umami. Thanks for what you do!

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZd918yzqqy4cc4.html

  • @JamesBond-gg4wg
    @JamesBond-gg4wg5 ай бұрын

    After listening to musical with the Hana MH I can firmly recommend it, it’s so good that the rest of your set up components will fail/be the bottleneck before it fails to reproduce the most demanding recordings and it doesn’t cost and arm or aleg to purchase it.

  • @ivanodones2714
    @ivanodones271410 ай бұрын

    To me the B cartridge sounds better with deeper bass and a wider sound scene. It seems the stylus of the B cartridge to track the groove more accurately.

  • @AntonyRosano
    @AntonyRosano Жыл бұрын

    I listened to the high resolution file available for comparison and I have a worthy audio system and 'unfortunately' old ears, but the sure winner between the two is definitely the one that costs less,the differences are really minimal, it may be that on other levels of 'esoteric' type of audio system the differences are more pronounced, thanks for the video, a greeting!

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Antony! 🙂 For the moment A is leading the poll: A: 49 votes B: 24 votes No winner: 10 I'll unveil which is which tomorrow 🙂

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @portwill

    @portwill

    Жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree more! I have a revealing system and the differences are negligible at best.

  • @manowire5403
    @manowire5403 Жыл бұрын

    B has nice center with adequate LR separation. Work together to provide a warmer, relaxed overall presentation. A is brighter center Mid-highs are stronger than B which changes the soundstage vs. B Overall, for this music, I prefer B. A may work better on other types of music. My 2 cents.......

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! A is leading the way as I type :P

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Livewire91
    @Livewire91 Жыл бұрын

    I would choose A and i did download and listen to the samples. There is imo quite little difference really. Either one of those are fantastic 👍

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man. As for now...A is leading the way. A: 39 B: 12 No winner: 6

  • @jerryandlisa27
    @jerryandlisa27 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer B the voice sounds more neutral.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jerry :) A is leading the poll. I'll unveil which is which tomorrow. A: 49 votes B: 24 votes No winner: 10

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @therealestatecornerwithsha6487
    @therealestatecornerwithsha648719 күн бұрын

    I have cartridge AT but I did hear more surface noise with AT

  • @mykolamisyura8107
    @mykolamisyura8107 Жыл бұрын

    Have you compared Hana SL/SH to ML/MH? I own Hana SL - great cartridge, but I’m curious if there is big sense to upgrade to ML. Costs almost twice as much…

  • @VinylShack
    @VinylShack Жыл бұрын

    I had a Dacmagic hooked to my laptop and listened through Grado RS1's. Really splitting hairs. They sound virtually identical to me. I may have preferred A, but couldn't swear to it.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'll unveil which is which on Monday. For the moment: A: 39 B: 12 No winner: 6

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @gemini3558
    @gemini3558 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely A for me but B does have a beautiful sound stage !!! 😜👍🇦🇺

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'll unveil which is which on Monday. For the moment: A: 39 B: 12 No winner: 6

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Mike-76
    @Mike-76 Жыл бұрын

    Felicidades por el vídeo, Fran. Vaya curro, los cortes te han quedado perfectos. Suenan las dos genial, incluso en algún momento y también con las “lossless files”, me ha sonado mejor la B, que creo que es la MH. Después, con más atención y con un Dac, he notado que con la A sonaba todo mucho más limpio: Graves menos emborronados y agudos y medios más definidos…incluso, aún estado los niveles igualados, daba sensación se mayor volumen me ha gustado más A. Espero que sea la Umami 😅! Un abrazo !

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Gracias a ti! De momento: A: 39 B: 12 No winner: 6

  • @KaiTimmerherm
    @KaiTimmerherm Жыл бұрын

    "A" sounds a bit more detailed, and has a stronger but still lean bass, albeit the difference is minute. I assume A is the Umami, but B (estimated MH) is no slouch.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for you opinion :) For the moment A is leading the way

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Grimwriggler
    @Grimwriggler Жыл бұрын

    i haven't cheated honest! B sounds more natural and open B for me

  • @fanclub670
    @fanclub6708 ай бұрын

    Incredible !! 👀👀 For me, Hana MH seems to be better as Hana Umami Red ?

  • @highmentalabilities
    @highmentalabilities Жыл бұрын

    Both cartridges sound great, but cartridge B sounds a bit better and has a more dynamic open sound to my ears - there’s a greater degree of “realism” to its sound (it’s more forward in its presentation). I think cart B is the Umami Red. Time will tell.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 😉 A is leading the way right now but, only time will tell 😋

  • @highmentalabilities

    @highmentalabilities

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HiFisquarepants I re-listened to both cartridges today. When comparing 5:01 (B) and 5:26 (A), the piano on 5:26 (A) does have a more realistic sound. Weird. Because B sounded better to me yesterday (but I was listening through the downloaded files). FYI: the download files are not of the same song as you post here for comparison but are Dire Straits. What I will say is that if one is looking to save a few thousand dollars on a cartridge that’s not far behind it’s flagship one, then the Hana MH may not be such a bad choice. While there are differences between each, they are not as drastic enough to warrant more than double the price. In the end, both are fantastic cartridges.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @porcostereo
    @porcostereo Жыл бұрын

    I know already both cartridges from before. Umami is B: deeper bass (sometimes even could be too much or too thick) and more "micro" information, but at the same time dark harmonics compared with MH. In that way MH is easier to hear: light and sparkling, feeling even more precise i some moments or depending the music and the rest of the equipment you have. Just this is a very good and short test; with longer listening and more kind of music the differences start to appear more obvious. Umami is very expensive compared with MH so great to know is possible to have great (same or even more) pleasure with a part of the investment. Great test 👍👍

  • @markdinham7645
    @markdinham7645 Жыл бұрын

    I go with A as the Umami Red, the double bass has more depth and control/texture. The piano more air and shine. Both carts have similar soundstage. Great test. Also what a fantastic recording, I’m searching for a copy right now.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'll unveil which is which on Monday. For the moment: A: 39 B: 12 No winner: 6

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @MacXpert74
    @MacXpert74 Жыл бұрын

    Both sound very good. In the track of Round 1 I found it difficult to hear much of a difference, it was extremely subtle. But I did hear a more clear difference in round 2. The biggest difference I heard was in the sample starting at 3:52 (B) vs 4:15 (A). Cartridge A brings out the voice more clearly and more separated from the other instruments than cartridge B. In general I feel Cartridge A has a preciser and more detailed soundstage compared to B. Some micro details in the transients seem more clearly defined with cartridge A. So I guess Cartridge A must be the expensive Umami Red. But if the difference in sound quality is worth the price difference is debatable I guess. If I'm wrong, than the MH is a very good deal 😅

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your detailed opinion 😀 A is leading the poll: A: 49 votes B: 24 votes No winner: 10 I'll unveil which is which tomorrow 🙂

  • @MacXpert74

    @MacXpert74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HiFisquarepants Thanks! I'm curious to see if I got it right. 🙂

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @MacXpert74

    @MacXpert74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HiFisquarepants Really surprising! So the MH really is a great deal then 😅

  • @FranciscoSanchez-ut2mv
    @FranciscoSanchez-ut2mv Жыл бұрын

    Además el disco del tes no está ala altura de la circunstancia ponte el requien de moza y coges la mh y la tira al cubo de la basua

  • @luisrodriguez8639
    @luisrodriguez8639 Жыл бұрын

    Ambos excelentes, pero el B saca un poquito mas de detalles y los bajos un poquito mas definidos pero yo seria feliz con cualquiera de los 2 jeje

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Apunto tu voto para la B 🙂 Gracias!

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    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @joseramonfernandezarias7396
    @joseramonfernandezarias7396 Жыл бұрын

    A mi me parece que suena la B mejor. Es algo muy sutil, pero me parece algo mas facil de escuchar y algo mas agradable y más clara la B. Parece que el grave es algo menor en la B pero me parece mas limpio. No sé si habré acertado porque una parece que es la cara y otra la barata. Me quedo con la B.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Gracias por tu detallada opinión 👍 Desvelaré cuál es cuál en mi canal secundario @hifispongebob

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @I_0..0_I
    @I_0..0_I Жыл бұрын

    After the video and the files I choose the B, both lovely cartridges by the way 👍👍

  • @maynardewm
    @maynardewm2 ай бұрын

    I could not tell through KZread, the differences were too small. I did open up the lossless samples, and then I could notice a slight difference. B has brighter trebles, and a more detailed sound. A is a little more relaxed, a little warmer. But I had to listen to a small section on a loop over and over again with Hifiman HE1000 Stealth headphones to notice the difference. I preferred A because I think B would get a bit fatiguing after a long time. I'm guessing the Umami Red is B? Let's find out!

  • @ElectoneGuy
    @ElectoneGuy Жыл бұрын

    These are almost impossible to tell apart. I hear "A" as having a minute amount of extra 'air'. Other than that, they are basically identical.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your input :) A is leading the way by a asmall margin :)

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    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @BeMJDivinityInMotion
    @BeMJDivinityInMotion Жыл бұрын

    Hard to decide 🤔; both sound great 😍. There are little nuances. All in all, both are exceptional sounding cartridges 👏👏. But if I had to pick one, I would stick with A 😊

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Your vote goes to A 🙂

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    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @AudioPhil1
    @AudioPhil1 Жыл бұрын

    Goes to show the rule of diminishing returns :-) Once you get out of bargain basement territory there's nowhere near the difference between equipment that the hifi press would have you believe. Great comparison!

  • @MusicAndVinyl

    @MusicAndVinyl

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! Differences come down to personal preference rather than better or worse. HiFi reviewers need to exaggerate differences to justify their existence!

  • @bkatbamna
    @bkatbamna Жыл бұрын

    Both sound great. B has more body in the mids and sounds better to me.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Your vote goes to cart B. 🙂

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    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @paolotessarini2720
    @paolotessarini2720 Жыл бұрын

    This is strange, looking at the curve in adobe audition frequency analysis (lossless samples) both AAA and BBB samples show the typical Rothwell MCX curve (a flatter curve in which the very-high frequencies are particularly well represented), which is virtually impossible, since the MCX is only used in the Umami Red signal chain..... unfortunately i lost your old Hana MH recordings, but i clearly remember a different curve...... Well... i recovered your Hana MH Alan Parsons' Eye In The Sky and, actually, the curve is very similar to the umami red & MCX....... so nothing strange....

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your rigorous, well justified, and clearly explained opinion but...A or B? 😛

  • @paolotessarini2720

    @paolotessarini2720

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HiFisquarepants I think A is umami red, so A.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paolotessarini2720 Thank you! :)

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @donwest5387
    @donwest538723 күн бұрын

    I just bought an MH and a pair of Martin Logans; I'm "there"

  • @senoroscuro7674
    @senoroscuro7674 Жыл бұрын

    Descargué los archivos en audio lossless y la verdad no enconrtré diferencia entre los dos fonocaptores, tal vez necesite un mejor equipo de audio, pero mi Marantz 2226b con bocinas Klipsch ya se escucha grandioso y no tengo necesidad de comprar algo mejor. No entiendo a estos audiofilos, ¿de veras tienen super oídos que les permiten captar el más mínimo detalle y diferencia entre dos fonocaptores como estos?

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @alejandromariamacedo5857
    @alejandromariamacedo5857 Жыл бұрын

    Me gustó más la A. Más definida pero con poco bajo. La B tiene más cuerpo y es más musical. Es cuestión de gustos.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Gracias por tu argumentada opinión 😉De momento va ganando la A en las votaciones ☺

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @jemsmay2167
    @jemsmay2167 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, both are excellent, so crisp and accurate. “Feels” like we are in the room with her. I prefer A, was deeper and more present, better sound stage. Wish I could afford either…

  • @dkeener13
    @dkeener13 Жыл бұрын

    A seems better to me. I noticed it most in the notes of the string bass.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank You! 🙂A is winning the poll so far 😉

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    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm Жыл бұрын

    Prefer b. A has a little midrange blemish.

  • @autonomous-hm5yf
    @autonomous-hm5yfАй бұрын

    Remember these two are only competing against each other and their price difference. I wonder how the AT oc9 s would fare against both for less money? This price performance disparity happens a lot in the audio industry. Its really about having patience doing research and its possible to save a LOT of money and put together a great sounding system.

  • @franciscojavier8150
    @franciscojavier8150 Жыл бұрын

    En la opción B encuentro sonido más agradable, pero "por los pelos". Gracias por el curro.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Gracias a ti por pasarte y dar tu opinión 😉 A: 49 votos B: 24 votos Indecisos: 10 Mañana desvelaré cuál es cuál 🙂

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @rukosody420
    @rukosody420 Жыл бұрын

    At tablet + 10$ ear buds can't hear any difference. I have SL cartridge and PS Stellar phono preamp that is very good sound too

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @chordeater8417
    @chordeater8417 Жыл бұрын

    La A le saca todo el jugo, la B suena muy parecida pero emborrona un poco. La finura y el fenomenal equilibrio tímbrico de la A me hace pensar en la Hana, pero apenas tengo experiencia en cápsulas. Mi voto para la A.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Gracias por dar tu opinión 😉 De momento: A: 49 votos B: 24 votos Indecisos: 10 Mañana desvelaré cuál es cuál 🙂

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Habitual_Liar
    @Habitual_Liar7 ай бұрын

    B is more open with more air. It is revealing, delicate and nuanced.

  • @robertozanetti7707
    @robertozanetti7707 Жыл бұрын

    Unami for me is the "B"

  • @jeffbayhylle4433
    @jeffbayhylle4433 Жыл бұрын

    A has a slight more clarity.

  • @riccardotartaro
    @riccardotartaro6 ай бұрын

    The differences are very light…. There is a lack of high frequencies in both. The voice appears like behind a velvet blanket. I suppose that all such bad features can depend heavily by the chain of pre-phono, pre-amp, analog to digital converter and cables used.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    6 ай бұрын

    Come on...

  • @yippie6862
    @yippie6862 Жыл бұрын

    Red is better than the MH for sure. But 3 times the price better? Umm, 🤔

  • @Jil8840
    @Jil8840 Жыл бұрын

    The second sounds thinner lighter. So there is a clear difference.....

  • @andrewstewart8704
    @andrewstewart8704 Жыл бұрын

    B is a much wider sound stage with being able to hear the different frequency piano strings placement to the tee. A first for me to be able to notice that! the higher notes went over to the right channel as it would be in real life. B is the hands down winner for the nice sound stage and pinpoint accuracy for the stereo image. B makes A boring my friend. that's just listening straight from youtube by the way.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for your opinion. Your votes goes to B 🙂A is leading the poll so far, by a small margin though.

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    BTW, if you change your mind after hearing the lossless files, let me know ;)

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @andrewstewart8704

    @andrewstewart8704

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HiFisquarepants Couldn't download the lossless files for some reason.

  • @andrewstewart8704

    @andrewstewart8704

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HiFisquarepants What were your thoughts? Did you notice a wider sound stage my friend?

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm Жыл бұрын

    I prefer A

  • @ColocasiaCorm

    @ColocasiaCorm

    Жыл бұрын

    Man im retarded

  • @Matrix...777
    @Matrix...777 Жыл бұрын

    A - more dynamic, B - compress, ... For me A better

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! A is leading the poll: A: 49 votes B: 24 votes No winner: 10 I'l unveil which is which tomorrow 🙂

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @miguelsalas2287
    @miguelsalas22876 ай бұрын

    I prefer A.

  • @riccardotartaro
    @riccardotartaro8 ай бұрын

    Better the B cartridge

  • @jerryandlisa27
    @jerryandlisa27 Жыл бұрын

    The B sounds better to me.

  • @gira2556
    @gira2556 Жыл бұрын

    Perdona lo que te voy a decir, pero jamás pondría una HANA UMAMI RED en una 1200, es desperdiciar la HANA y creo es lo que sucedió, además pude ver que usas un SUT para poder reutilizar tu prephono MM, toda esta cadena hace que no haya mayor diferencia a favor de las cápsulas más costosas, los detalles no pueden ser captado ni reproducidos simplemente, saludos

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Yo también te pido perdón por lo que te voy a decir, pero estás hablando sin saber. Además, veo mucho prejuicio en contra del Technics. Te explico, el Technics es la base del giradiscos, pero la fuente de alimentación es externa y el brazo es un Jelco que se ajusta perfectamente a las necesidades de la Umami Red. No solo lo dicen los número y mis oidos, sino que antes de comprar la cápsula me asesoraron sobre el brazo adecuado y me confirmaron que mi brazo 'le sienta de maravilla' a la Umami. El SUT que uso es necesario si quiero utilizar el previo Audio Research LP1SE. Como te comento en la respuesta anterior, es un previo estupendo que con las modificaciones suena mejor que uno de esos tan costosos McIntosh, por mencionar uno. Podría utilizar directamente el Pro-Ject Phono Box RS2 con PSU externa, pero es que no suena tan bien. En cualquier caso, el RS2 también necesita elevar la señal. El SUT que uso es una maravilla; es totalemente transparente y cuenta con transformadores Lundahl. En cuanto a las interconexiones, también son de alta calidad. Todas Van den Hul de nivel suficiente como para no degradar los detalles como aseguras, Un saludo!

  • @gira2556

    @gira2556

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HiFisquarepants Estimado, jamás te he tratado de que no sepas, es más lo del brazo JELCO me hizo mucho sentido por lo que no dije nada del brazo. Me gustaría sólo que pudieses hacer pruebas en privado , sólo para tí con equipos más caros, una tornamos por sobre los US$ 5.000.- y un prephono por sobre los US$ 3.000.- pero que sea MC, sólo estoy diciendo que tu prueba realizada no es suficiente quizás para poder dar a conocer toda las ventajas de la UR por sobre la MH. Yo estas pruebas sí las he realizado, en una primera etapa cuando me inicié estaba convencido incluso que una cápsula MM era igual a una MC, pero cuando invertí un poco más en una mejor tornamesa me di cuenta de lo equivocado que estaba y para que hablar cuando probé con prephonos carísimos, estás diferencias son aún más notorias. También decir y apoyar en tu prueba realizada que justamente valida lo que digo, muchos piensan que por el sólo echo de poner el cartridge más caro va haber una tremenda mejora, lo que no es cierto y se pudo apreciar con tu prueba, ya que va a depender de toda la cadena análoga si es capaz de captar las bondades de cápsulas del olimpo. Mi conclusión es que toda la inversión debe ser equilibrada y en la justa medida del dinero de cada uno, no saco nada instalando una cápsula de US$ 4.000.- en una cadena por ejemplo que no supera los $2.000.- eso es todo, Saludos,

  • @gira2556

    @gira2556

    Жыл бұрын

    Sólo aclarar que me pareció muy interesante tu prueba y del porqué de la sorpresa para muchos y por algo me motivé a comentarlo, si entendiste que tu prueba está mal hecha te pido disculpas, sólo quería expresar que en esto del audio hay que hacer los gastos de manera equilibrada y acorde al presupuesto de cada uno, entiendo perfectamente que tu video fue una prueba y me gustó mucho, saludos

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gira2556 Parece ser que tus comentarios y mis aclaraciones van cada una por su lado...Ya he dicho que este equipo es totalmente capaz de mostrar las bondades de las 2 cápsulas en cuestión y ya he explicado las características de los componentes y sus modificaciones...Yo he hecho muchísimas comparaciones y te puedo asegurar que la calidad de sonido no se mide por el precio. Sin ir más lejos, este setup, que puede rondar los 8 mil euros (con la Umami), suena mejor que un equipo de 30 mil euros...y eso lo he comprobado yo mismo con un equipo en concreto formado por componentes McIstosh, SME, etc. que son hiper caros para la calidad de los componentes que ofrece. No es tanto la cantidad de billetes si no la gestión de optimización de los componentes para que el sonido fluya de la manera más transparente. La experiencia que describes es personal, pero no la puedes aplicar a mi caso por lo que ya he expuesto en dos ocasiones. No me hace falta un equipo de 30 mil euros para escuchar mejor estas hanas, ni mucho menos. Saludos!

  • @FranciscoSanchez-ut2mv
    @FranciscoSanchez-ut2mv Жыл бұрын

    Yo tengo las dos y la mh se queda en la cuneta,yo tengo la ml que es una buena capsula pero también la umami ,ni comparación un abismo amigos sordo.

  • @ColocasiaCorm
    @ColocasiaCorm Жыл бұрын

    No contest. B wins. A has muddled midrange

  • @ColocasiaCorm

    @ColocasiaCorm

    Жыл бұрын

    Now i think a is better. Fuck my life

  • @ColocasiaCorm

    @ColocasiaCorm

    10 ай бұрын

    Both are real good. Makes you wonder if you ever need to spend over 1k.

  • @gira2556
    @gira2556 Жыл бұрын

    Primero que nada te felicito por la producción. Pero para poder seleccionar la capsula ganadora va ser clave el prephono que estás utilizando, me refiero a si es capaz de reproducir los detalles a favor de la HANA UMAMI. Primero decir que hay una gran diferencia entre la MH y la ML, las HANA modelo H fueron hechas para ser usadas con prepones MM y así reutilizar tu prephono con las cápsulas con tecnologías MC. Yo todas las cápsulas MC de alta salida que he escuchado pierden la dulzura y musicalidad, destacan más el detalle por ser tecnología MC y cuando uno escucha por primera vez llama la atención esto y tiende a confundir la elección ya que uno puede creer que es más detallada y dinámica , pero con el tiempo uno aprecia que es más delgado el sonido y más metálico, las HANA de baja salida (L de LOW) gustan tanto porque tienen la dulzura y musicalidad del mundo MM pero todo el detalle y definición de las MC. Dicho esto diría que la HANA UMAMI es la B y la HANA MH es la A. Insisto en vivo es totalmente apreciable la diferencia entre MH- ML y UR Salu2

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Gracias a ti por compartir tus impresiones, así tengo la oportunidad de contestar y aclarar las cosas a quien pueda estar leyendo y no esté bien informado. El previo utilizado es más que capaz de mostrar las bondades de ambas cápsulas. Su rendimiento es impresionante gracias a sus componentes modificados: condensadores y resistencias que revelan con total transparencia el verdadero carácter de cualquier cápsula. El tema de MH vs ML no lo voy a comentar porque el vídeo no trata de eso. Ahora voy a contestar a tu otro mensaje ;)

  • @lgcisaacb.l.326
    @lgcisaacb.l.326 Жыл бұрын

    A is Better

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your opinion 😉

  • @HiFisquarepants

    @HiFisquarepants

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @Habitual_Liar
    @Habitual_Liar Жыл бұрын

    B loses the bass.

  • @mahasidha9
    @mahasidha9 Жыл бұрын

    So close yet I experience A as a bit more recessed, and B more present & this is consistent when going from B back to A. Thanks for doing this; big price difference; the have just released the Blue for $2,500 to sit in the middle. I am after the Audio-Technica AT - ART 9AXI for $1,500 ranked very highly by German Stereoplay: Absolute Spitzenklasse Klang Punkte Preis Heft ■ Linn Kendo 62 87 3.300 10/22 Linn Kandid{(MC)} 62 88 3.450 10/15 ■ EMT JSD VM 62 90 4.200 11/19 Clearaudio da Vinci V2{(MC)} 62 88 4.700 12/16 ■ MoFi Electronics UltraGold MC 61 85 1.900 10/22 ■ EMT JSD 6 61 87 2.780 6/21 EMT HSD 006 {(MC)} 60 84 1.200 6/18 ■ Goldring Ethos 60 85 1.300 2/21 ■ Audio-Technica AT-ART9XA 60 85 1.500 9/22 ■ Audio-Technica AT-ART9XI 60 84 1.500 9/22 ■ EMT HSD 006{(MC)} 60 84 1.650 1/22 ■ Linn Krystal{(MC)} 60 86 1.590 4/16 ■ Gold Note Donatello MC 59 84 1.100 9/22 ■ Hana ML 59 83 1.150 4/20 ■ Transrotor Merlo Reference 59 82 1.200 10/22 ■ Skyanalog G-2 59 84 1.500 12/21 Clearaudio Talisman V2 Gold {(MC)} 59 83 1.500 6/18 ■ EAT Jo No.5{(MC)} 58 81 1.190 8/18 Kiseki Blue N. S.{(MC)} 58 81 2.000 12/16 ■ Dynavector DV-20X2L{(MC)} 57 81 900 11/19 ■ Goldring Eroica LX 56 82 600 9/21 ■ Gold Note Donatello Red{(MC)} 56 78 650 8/18 ■ Dynavector 10X5 neo MKII{(MC)} 56 78 700 11/20

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