Fabulous review Marty! Thanks. So happy that Hahnemühle stepped up to produce these books. Your detailed binding analysis was particularly interesting. I've not really used one of the white Etchr books since I have started too many other sketchbooks already but the binding problems are so worth noting. I'm excited to get to my review which I hope to do this week. Thanks for the mention. Looking forward to comparing notes with you at some point.

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for your review my friend and to compare some notes. I don't want to influence your review, but spoiler alert, I think you're going to like it. See you on the MoW channel Steve.

@joyfulldj

2 жыл бұрын

You do understand I have to try one now?? Just saying :P

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

@@joyfulldj LOL.

I got both of from Switzerland cause they don't sell it in the middle east :) so excited to try them

Etcher products are "mutton dressed as lamb". Mostly sourced from China and repackaged to look expensive.

@owingsart

Жыл бұрын

I think that's true for some of their regular sketchbooks for sure. For the Erwin book, it was made with Fabriano and worth the money. I think they have taken advantage and burned some good will though.

Yes! Great information on this sketchbook!!! It did sound like 2 different people, but saw in the comments, you had a cold... I thought my hearing or my phone was wonky! 😊 Wondering if you've tried Winsor Newton 100% cotton watercolor cold press paper pad... I buy mine in 5 x 7" spiral pad, 15 pages for about $14-$15. I'm tempted to take my Arches and have it made in a binder format... they do this at most office supply stores... Staples for one!!! Thank you for sharing!!! A California Gramma ❤

OMG so happy to see another cotton sketchbook on the market by one of my fave brands! So happy Hahnemuhle is bringing more products to the US.

Thanks for the detailed info - I bought some today to try different sizes. I appreciate your channel and the art you do, it’s really inspiring. Wet Paint was great as well - gave them a shout out to you 😎

Thank you so much, Marty. I appreciate your reviews a lot. I am in Canada and need to look into the shipping costs for me. But I ordered Steve's paint set from Wet Paint and they were fabulous. :)

Thank you for reviewing & teaching all people interested. I began to follow have a good day

Going to have to keep in mind this page, and the shop you suggested. Thank you 😁

Thanks so much for the in-depth review of the new 100% cotton watercolor sketchbooks and sharing the amazing sale. I ordered 3 sketchbooks! Can’t wait for them to arrive so I can try out the newest on the market.

You and Steve are awesome! Thank you

Good to see you review this one Marty. More temptation.

Thank you for the review. I'm sold!

In europe the Hahnemuhle A5 cotton is the same price as the white Etchr A5 cotton sketchbook (~€28,-). I think it would be interesting to see those compared too but great video.

@owingsart

3 ай бұрын

I miss living in Europe sometimes. :-)

Yay! It’s about time! Thx for the very thorough review! 🖌🙏🏻👍🤗

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mendy. Hope you get your hands on one soon.

Landed here from Mind of Watercolour, happy to have discovered your channel! ☺️

I could look at last year's summer sketchbook 100 times. Hahnemuhle my #1 choice in paper. I'm really liking the Agave paper-got to be the aging hippie in me. Wandered around the Wet Paint site. How wonderful to have an art supply store that has such a variety of classes for the community. Only in my dreams. Thinking I might order the sketchbook for an artist friend of mine. Steve made it! He was my very first you tube subscription. Fell in love. Got me started on my very slow watercolor journey.

Hi Marty nice to see you back hope you are ok wait for the next time keep them coming 🇬🇧☕️🙋🏻‍♀️

Very beautiful and amazing binding skills you have my dear and sweety friend. God bless you

I have 6 etchr lab everyday sketchbooks and none of them have torn as the one you showed. I will say I'm not rough with mine but they do travel in my bag with no issues. It would be interesting to try the new sketchbooks to just see how they compare. Look forward to trying it.

Beautiful works Marty, you simply amaze me!

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Awwww thank you my friend. Appreciate your kind words.

as soon as i found out hannehmuhle finally makes 100% cotton sketchbooks, i bought them online immediately. i loved their akademie sketchbooks for urban sketching, compared to etchr's regular cotton sketchbooks. i felt like the regular etchr cotton papers make watercolor paints look dull even when i was using artist grade paints like daniel smith and white nights. they also dont granulate paints enough for my liking which is quite disappointing because their sketchbooks are quite pricey. and you're right, their sketchbooks fall apart easily. it's quite frustrating for a brand that boasted themselves for making the best sketchbooks. so once i used up the etchr ones, i went straight back to hannehmuhle despite not being 100% cotton. it's just the next best thing after 100% cotton papers. cant wait for my new sketchbooks to arrive and paint with it though!

A great review. Thank you for doing such a good summary. I also have to say that the art supplies shop, Wet Paint, looks like the sort of shop I just wish we had somewhere close to me here in Cambridgeshire. :-)

Thanks Marty, I just got mine in April but never stopped by to Thank You and Steve for your great reviews! I haven't used it yet, I can't decide if I should give it to my son for his Birthday or keep it for myself.....Hmmmm, maybe I will go back and get another!

@owingsart

10 ай бұрын

Lol, gifts almost always come full circle.

Awesome review Marty. I can't wait to try it out. 👍

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Great video, Marty, with a detailed and well-balanced review. It's good to see more cotton sketchbooks appearing and this latest one looks like a winner - which means, as you mention in the video, that we the customers are also winners. Hope you and Mrs Marty are keeping well and enjoying emerging from your 'Minnesotan winter hibernation' :-) Best wishes, Brian.

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Howdy Brian - Yes indeed the springtime is almost here in the North and it's long overdue. The missus can't wait to get back on the motorcycle and do some riding. I like the camping aspect quite a bit, but sometimes the rides are long. How are things in the sunshine state my friend?

Thank you for this fantastic review! So exciting!

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out Stacy.

looks great.. thanks again

Hey Marty, nice to hear your voice again my friend! Thanks for the info. I'll definitely check these out soon. I'm almost ready to start a new book and I've been looking for a good one. Hope you are well.

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Pete - Thanks for the kindness and for checking out the video as always. All is well here, almost springtime and the birds are out again. We’ve got a lot of gardening to do coming up, but I’ll still be putting out videos. Hope you are well my friend.

What a thorough review, Marty! I enjoyed it! That's so cool, the HUGE Ticonderoga pencil at Wet Paint! Now let's go and turn all pillars in town into pencils, lol. I so love your intricate drawings of these 'medieval' figures! These would make great illustrations for a book on history. It's great to see that Hahnemühle expands their product range. To my great delight they also created a unique journal with coloured pages at the core called '1584 by Hahnemühle'. Cheers! ✨

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Anja - Thank you for the note and for checking out the video. Hahnemühle is a great company and they really produce great products. I think if I was stranded on a desert island all I would need would be Schmincke paints and Hahnemühle sketchbooks, and some whiskey and food...and the internet. The figures were something my father introduced me to. They are from woodcuts celebrating the triumph of Maximillian I. www.artic.edu/collection?artist_ids=Hans%20Burgkmair%2C%20the%20elder I need to check out 1584 - Thank you for the tip my friend. Maybe you could take a road trip to Dassel for me and buy all their paper. ;-) Have a great day Anja.

Awesome! I love their sketchbooks. Thanks, I am off to order from Wet Paint. 🎨

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Deb.

Thank you for a detailed review! Marty, have you had a chance to compare these sketchbooks with the Kilimanjaro 100% cotton sketchbooks from CheapJoes’s?

Thanks 🙏👍, wished I could draw nearly like you.🤠

Great in depth review, thank you 👍

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out Jeanie. I hope you’ll subscribe.

Hi! Great news and great review! Just out of curiosity, being hahnemuhle 100% cotton, is it similar or the same as the Expression line paper?

Oooh, those look good. Hahnemühle has come out with a lot of new stuff recently. Whole bunch of new stuff that I'll have to try out. A lot of people here are obsessed with trying out new paints, but as for me, I think I have developed this thing for trying out paper. 😁

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

For sure! Paper is truly fun and now we finally have some options. I think this is going to really disrupt the market.

@justacatwhocantype

2 жыл бұрын

​@@owingsart Paper definitely is fun and in recent years the selection of options has become so huge! I sometimes think that nowadays, the paper section alone has more options than the entire art supply store did just a couple of decades ago. 😂. But a nice cotton sketchbook is something that we still needed, I am really looking forward to getting my hands on this one. And I do still need a sketchbok for this summer, so there I go, might as well get this really nice one. 😊

Your art is Amazing!

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

Love love love the way you used the style of the old etchings in your people. It very much reminded me of a 15c etching. Lovely. To me that's the greatest art on the planet. Becaue it brought visual art into every home. For the first time people weren't limited to political & religious statuary of the ancient world; the amazingly beautiful art only seen in cathedrals and palaces. For the first time great art was available to ever class and every home. I know people like to pretend books or paper was out of reach back in the dark ages, middle ages, victorian age but it isn't true. 100% rag paper was made from recycled clothing. There was so much of it it was basically free. Guttenberg didn't invent the press. He invented the alloy used in the type & partnered with the church to publish mass quantity and therefore inexpensive product. But people had printed press books long before he came along.

@owingsart

3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. Lots of interesting info in your post here.

Enjoyed review...

Thank you so much Marty 🥰‼️

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment!

@BornAgainFarmGirl

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure @@owingsart Marty 😁!

Hey Marty, haven’t seen you on KZread in a minute. How you been? Thank you for your video, interesting looking sketchbook however I make my own. What is the gsm of the sketchbook?

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dawn - For sure and sorry for not posting as often, but I'v been working on this one for a long time. All is well and just been pretty busy lately is all, but yes ma'am it's been a minute. 🙂This paper is 250 gsm, 120 lb paper. It's very nice.

Can’t find any of these around, so I ended up going with a Ruben’s and a Baohong cold press watercolor journal

@owingsart

Жыл бұрын

Those are good alternatives.

Loved you video. So I ordered 3 of the new books. I can't tell the difference between the old and new papers. They react the same to watercolor paint to me.

@owingsart

Жыл бұрын

Have fun! And let me know what you think of it.

@violettahaven3706

Жыл бұрын

@@owingsart I just did

Great review! Thank you. How does the paper compare to the W&N 100% cotton sketchbook? These are a lot easier and cheaper to get where I am. I don't work in sketchbooks because they are too pricey but the W&N was very affordable.

@annenglish2935

3 ай бұрын

Yes!!! I like the Winsor Newton 100% cotton 5 x 7" (15 pages) 140lb cold press watercolor paper spiral pad. The spiral, however, knocks off about 3/8" from 7" .... when it dips in price, I buy a few!!! Happy painting 🎉

Sounds like you came of age halfway through.😂

@owingsart

Жыл бұрын

I caught a cold.

Hi, Marty. I've just watched this video for the second time, over a year after the first time. I'm wondering how you feel about the sketchbook now? I'm asking because a lot of folk gave it great reviews on the basis of first impressions, but quite a lot of us (and that includes three of my favourite ArtTubers) had issues with the sizing of the paper from the beginning. We all bought ours on its first release in the various countries, in Australia, USA and mine, in France. Ours just don't like more than one wet wash, and on some pages, doesn't even take that. The paper produces strange blooms and textures, and faded colours, indicative of sizing issues. Some of those who loved it on first trial have discovered the same thing as they worked through the book. I don't know if Hahnemühle has resolved this issue ( would hope so, 18 months later!), but none of us is willing to chance it. I switched to dry media only in mine, as I got soooo fed up with the problem with watercolour, and others have switched to gouache. For all the expectations, trumpeting its arrival, and the price point, even for those of us in Europe, this was, and is, a definite no-go. ..

@owingsart

6 ай бұрын

Hi There - Sorry for the delay. I did reach out to Hahnemuhle and they are looking into this. They promised to reply soon with details. It may be that they've resolved the issues you outlined. I didn't have any significant issues with the books I bought and have been using them since. However I don't usually soak the paper or do a lot of mixed media work. My sketchbooks are generally graphite, ink and watercolor, but sometimes gouache. Hoping they respond soon and are transparent about the issues if they've been widely reported. I love the company and their products so fingers crossed this was a glitch. Thanks for the message and the opportunity to look into this.

Aww man. I just got the moleskin watercolor sketchbook. Now I know what to get next time.

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

no worries, I’m sure they’ll have more. 😉

It's interesting that Fabriano makes the Etchr sketchbook paper, and I love Fabriano Artistico paper. The paper in the Etchr sketchbook seems different, though, less top surface tooth. I wonder if the paper is treated differently because it's going in a sketchbook. I've never tried Hahnemuhl. It looks good!

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Hi There - Etchr doesn't use the Fabriano papers in anything except the Signature sketchbook - maybe you knew this already, but just wanted to mention in case you didn't. So in their other sketchbooks they use paper from a Chinese plant I believe. They actually aren't very transparent about where they source that paper, so I'm guessing. And they do treat both types of paper differently as you suspect. You can see this most clearly in the texture of the paper. I am really glad we finally have another option with Hahnemühle and they really have made a great product here. Hope you get a chance to use it soon.

@kellysartthrob

2 жыл бұрын

@@owingsart well there ya go! I have the "Perfect" one. 😁

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Which is still a great product. :-)

Must be user error, but my experience with this sketchbook has been frustrating. The one I have does the same thing where the binding is ripping. It is a sketchbook so maybe it shouldnt bother me so much, but it does, lol~ I'm trying to learn how to use this sketchbook, but I don't enjoy using it so far. 😔 But maybe I'm not using it correctly and need to experiment more.

@owingsart

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughts and sharing your experience.

👍🏻😁☑️

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Essie. West Texas springtime yet?

Can you customize the cover?

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe. It’s sort of a fabric feeling cover so maybe markers or acrylic but it seems like watercolor would soak in maybe??? Good question though.

@moonchaserstudio

2 жыл бұрын

@@owingsart thanks for replying. I was wondering if I could gesso it like I do etchr and acrylic paint over it. I’ve gotten one now. I might try it.

Why does it sound like there two different people talking on this video? There’s intermittent changes in the voice.

@owingsart

4 ай бұрын

I had a bad cold. I started without it, then got sick, then was better again.

No offense meant here. Trees and cotton have always been “vegan”.

@owingsart

2 жыл бұрын

The paper makers recipe may not always be just trees and cotton. 😉

@justacatwhocantype

Жыл бұрын

Watercolor paper, as well as other papers for art purposes, are made with sizing. This gives the paper it's properties in regards to how it absorbs and holds paint and water. It's basically a gelatinous glue. This sizing can be made from animals or plants. And in the case of books, blocks, etc. there are glues, and often also inks and dyes needed to manufacture the whole product, which is yet another way how animal products could play a part.

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