Hacking "World of Warcraft" Was His Gateway Drug to a Life of Crime🎙Ep. 117: Daniel the Paladin

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Daniel Kelley was just 12 years old when his rivals in "World of Warcraft" found his IP address and knocked him offline during battle. These exploits, left in plain sight, made him wonder how many other companies and servers were completely vulnerable. There were thousands. At first, he looked but wouldn't touch. But eventually, the curiosity around these "open windows" got the best of him.
That's where things get dark.
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  • @AstralArchivists
    @AstralArchivists3 ай бұрын

    Hearing that they credited the kid in the bug report and then right afterwards hearing Jack "these are true stories from the dark side of the internet" made me crack up 😂😂

  • @GeekieBenji
    @GeekieBenji3 ай бұрын

    The amount of hackers who spawned out of DDoS attacks back in the days is astonishing

  • @KidCorporate

    @KidCorporate

    3 ай бұрын

    No kidding, I had an instance of LOIC but the more I understood about it the less I wanted to use it so I never did.

  • @GeekieBenji

    @GeekieBenji

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@KidCorporate yeah, DDoS is where my interest started at a young age, resolving IPs from Steam and Skype calls I still remember from my early days. But with age I learned to stay away from that stuff :P A "friend" back then ran "Titanium Stresser" If you haven't heard about it, Google it and see the punishment he faced. I contacted him a few years ago on skype and well, some of the things mentioned in this Podcast I can relate with what he said his experience was.

  • @sirdag

    @sirdag

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@KidCorporate IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER

  • @Netbase2000

    @Netbase2000

    2 ай бұрын

    I knooow, right

  • @A_Black_hoodie

    @A_Black_hoodie

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@sirdag SHOOP DA WHOOP

  • @xportal9169
    @xportal91693 ай бұрын

    I recently (approximately 2-3 weeks ago) found out about this podcast. And all I can see this is the best podcast I have ever found. I love every detail (music, thumbnail, guests, host, and letting you know when will he play ads)

  • @Gixsir

    @Gixsir

    3 ай бұрын

    Go listen to the episode called Jeni it’s awesome

  • @xportal9169

    @xportal9169

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Gixsir i will

  • @NSXtacy-

    @NSXtacy-

    3 ай бұрын

    There are honestly so many good episodes the only thing I would recommend is listening to every single one

  • @CyberInvestor93

    @CyberInvestor93

    3 ай бұрын

    Bro you need to bindge the old ones, this is my Thursday morning podcast and sometimes Saturdays

  • @PalCan

    @PalCan

    3 ай бұрын

    100% and the march (t-shirts, etc) are also as impressive.

  • @user-xf8bu3jt3f
    @user-xf8bu3jt3f3 ай бұрын

    the boy showed an essential part of hacking: creativity

  • @sudokode

    @sudokode

    3 ай бұрын

    The 3 C's of hacking: curiosity, creativity, confidence

  • @KristovMars

    @KristovMars

    3 ай бұрын

    @@sudokode clacking ceyboard* consistently? I'm not knocking, I still can't do a Hacking. But pressing space repeatedly doesn't seem all that creative. Then again, the technique is pretty effective at pedestrian crossings so maybe the lad's onto something... *yes, I know. alliteration sometimes requires sacrifice.

  • @4thfrom7

    @4thfrom7

    3 ай бұрын

    Elevators too@@KristovMars

  • @sudokode

    @sudokode

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KristovMars hey for a 5yo, that ain't bad. Definitely showing the 3 C's. Curious if he could do it, creative enough to find a solution, and confident enough to keep the scheme going

  • @YKZBlender
    @YKZBlender3 ай бұрын

    I get so hyped every time I get a notification that you posted

  • @DetectiveNoir_
    @DetectiveNoir_3 ай бұрын

    Me at 5 years: Watching & Vibing at Ben 10 Opening Track 🤓

  • @yam2050

    @yam2050

    3 ай бұрын

    We didn't even had satellite dish at that time , we used to rent pirated dvds. It depends on where you grew up and what access you had.

  • @DetectiveNoir_

    @DetectiveNoir_

    3 ай бұрын

    @@yam2050 I only had box television we had back in the days lol. I was 5 at 2007

  • @yam2050

    @yam2050

    3 ай бұрын

    @@DetectiveNoir_ that's the point.

  • @Jason.04

    @Jason.04

    3 ай бұрын

    I was 5 in the 80s, yall know nothing about Napster and Limewire

  • @DetectiveNoir_

    @DetectiveNoir_

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Jason.04 wait I heard of Napster. From Social Network I think💀

  • @ningayeti
    @ningayeti3 ай бұрын

    If he was using his home computer to put his WOW opponent offline then it was NOT a DDOS attack it was a DOS (denial of service) attack. DDOS is by definition an attack from multiple IPs.

  • @SodiumEx

    @SodiumEx

    3 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure he was using a botnet with hoic or loic. It's pretty hard to get someone offline with one single ip packet flooding

  • @ardeladimwit
    @ardeladimwit3 ай бұрын

    there should be some way to offer hackers like Daniel a middle way with minimal punitive prison time but with offer of alternative military or civil service because somebody like Daniel would be invaluable to military, but military training is also tightly supervised without much personal freedom. But 6months or so of prison and then opt-out for military/ civil training would give him a future career in cyber security that would be a whole lot more valuable to country than expense of jail. seems such a waste of brains and resources to imprison someone when the person could be a valuable asset to society simply by offering an alternative.

  • @keystonepirate2534

    @keystonepirate2534

    Ай бұрын

    Military, come work for pennies …😂

  • @chrisoakleyfx
    @chrisoakleyfx3 ай бұрын

    My favourite podcast! Everything about it is leagues above everything else out there, the narration, the interviews, the storytelling, the music, the artwork... even the in-episode ads I don't hate as viscerally as I normally would 😂 I dont work in cybersecurity or IT but the subject fascinates me as a layman and you strike a really good balance for listeners like me, you give me loads of things to go look up and learn about but its accessible enough to follow without having to be an expert. I hope this podcast keeps going for a long time to come 🙏

  • @alexstone5710

    @alexstone5710

    2 ай бұрын

    L8

  • @Arbeitunfallversicherung
    @Arbeitunfallversicherung3 ай бұрын

    Enjoying your podcasts!

  • @ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.
    @ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.3 ай бұрын

    Im new to your content and I have been engrossed in it. Truly amazing work and story telling.

  • @Ostinat0
    @Ostinat020 күн бұрын

    This is one of the saddest starts to a life of cybercrime that I've ever heard: finding out someone is cheating in a game and just wanting to know how, then eventually realizing that you're actually one of the only people who ISN'T cheating.

  • @JWL123
    @JWL1233 ай бұрын

    39:00 while some may feel this way, others like myself enjoy these stories of younger people as they’re usually more recent and relatable

  • @bossboy2890
    @bossboy28903 ай бұрын

    Well I guess I'm not going to sleep. Keep up the great work loving all your videos

  • @gazfirst
    @gazfirst3 ай бұрын

    Think I was eating mud at 5 years old 😂

  • @Gixsir

    @Gixsir

    3 ай бұрын

    Definitely boogers 😂

  • @goldnutter412

    @goldnutter412

    3 ай бұрын

    LMFAO some kid in Russia 20+ yrs ago coded the 3 animals boat puzzle in ASM at 5.. We are so inferior lmfao

  • @dontclickthechannel7949
    @dontclickthechannel79493 ай бұрын

    Great job presenting this story. I'm curious what he was doing to protect himself.

  • @PaulMnMSmith
    @PaulMnMSmith3 ай бұрын

    Daniel, I know that feeling when the judge reads your sentence and you go into a state of shock and you go completely numb. Its not until they walk you out the back and you sit in your cell for a while when you realize what has actually happened. When I was 15 I committed a similar crime and was sentenced to 10 years then had years taken off for my age, showing remorse and a couple of other things which I ended up with 5 years. Fortunately enough for me I appealed at the high court and ended up with no prison time. Thanks for sharing your story.

  • @SUPERNINTENDOHALMERZ

    @SUPERNINTENDOHALMERZ

    3 ай бұрын

    I walked into the courtroom facing up to 60 years.. thank god i left signing only for 2.

  • @A_Black_hoodie

    @A_Black_hoodie

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@PDOUGHLIVESAT339LLOYD STAKRONOH DAMN 60 YEARS tf did you do man

  • @SUPERNINTENDOHALMERZ

    @SUPERNINTENDOHALMERZ

    Ай бұрын

    @@A_Black_hoodie trafficking

  • @A_Black_hoodie

    @A_Black_hoodie

    Ай бұрын

    @@SUPERNINTENDOHALMERZ wtf man

  • @A_Black_hoodie

    @A_Black_hoodie

    Ай бұрын

    @@SUPERNINTENDOHALMERZ i have to ask why man

  • @jchastain789
    @jchastain7893 ай бұрын

    It's good to hear your lawyer actually cares about you and even recommending mental health. That's so awesome. I remember the tok tok thing. It's crazy this is the dude

  • @sephjvr5979
    @sephjvr59793 ай бұрын

    @Jack, have you ever noticed how many of your visitors start their hacking/IT journey directly after being attacked by others?

  • @Ctin23_3
    @Ctin23_33 ай бұрын

    It must've been very traumatic to go through all that in prison. You can tell that the guy was trying to turn over a new leaf while the prison staff were being completely unfair to him. Overall I'm glad this man hasn't given up on wanting to work on the industry, I think if he starts his own company it will go very far. Thank you for the story Jack! Fantastic as always

  • @Lindsey_Lockwood

    @Lindsey_Lockwood

    2 ай бұрын

    And that's when I decided to reoffend

  • @pneuma33
    @pneuma333 ай бұрын

    Daniel the Paladin

  • @chrispfpv
    @chrispfpv3 ай бұрын

    Great storey and I remember the talk talk storey very well. Jack, you made me laugh though with the 'super max' prison. HMP Berwyn is a cat C prison, which is far from super max. They do however allocate laptops to prisoners so they can order canteen, meal menu's, book appointments and other minor stuff but there is no external assess to the Internet unless the laptops are hacked, which Daniel would have been more than capable of doing.

  • @Boobeinstein

    @Boobeinstein

    2 ай бұрын

    I think he said HMP Bristol or something like that.

  • @M21assult
    @M21assult3 ай бұрын

    2am post? I’m here for it.

  • @0therun1t21
    @0therun1t213 ай бұрын

    Yes, it makes sense! Thank you for coming and telling your story, I enjoyed it. When Talk Talk (stupid name) stocks fell it was a perfect time to buy, so maybe your guest accidentally helped some people make money.

  • @garronfish8227
    @garronfish82273 ай бұрын

    I find it interesting how things snowball from a kid learning how to hack to them extorting people or doing other bad things. Some interesting psychology going on. I guess part of it must be having so much power as a young adult.

  • @ImARealHumanPerson

    @ImARealHumanPerson

    3 ай бұрын

    They don't understand severe consequences when they're young.

  • @IshtheStomach
    @IshtheStomach3 ай бұрын

    Holy f◇▪︎%! Another 5 star episode!

  • @codelinx
    @codelinx3 ай бұрын

    I feel like I listened to this already😳

  • @OffensiveComment
    @OffensiveComment3 ай бұрын

    Just in time for bed. Thanks jack, I’ll be buying merch soon.

  • @Kakerate2

    @Kakerate2

    3 ай бұрын

    lol yep

  • @emera1750
    @emera17503 ай бұрын

    You are a powerhouse Jack !!

  • @toooes
    @toooes3 ай бұрын

    world of warcrack - not even once

  • @mycelia_ow

    @mycelia_ow

    3 ай бұрын

    truly, it consumes you

  • @cristianstoica4544
    @cristianstoica45443 ай бұрын

    Does it still count as Python if you rebuild it from sources and rename it as escapFrNY?

  • @Dwigt_Rortugal

    @Dwigt_Rortugal

    3 ай бұрын

    Call it Boa. It's a h4x0r language and you can only code in it while wearing a balaclava and fingerless gloves. That's how you spot a real hacker! The prison part was wild. Corrections officers must absolutely hate hackers or intelligent people. It's so irrational, but then the prison system is bonkers anyway. "If you're not a bad criminal on the way in, we'll beat the crime into you!"

  • @NPCnate_
    @NPCnate_3 ай бұрын

    Whats the song called at 31:19?

  • @pl46u3
    @pl46u33 ай бұрын

    Should do an episode on the AT&T 2600Hz

  • @goldnutter412
    @goldnutter4123 ай бұрын

    CISO Deutsche Bank ? NICE !!! Congrats bro.. on the right path. All in this together :) life is learning

  • @derrickoleke523
    @derrickoleke5233 ай бұрын

    Here we go again

  • @wibi1990
    @wibi1990Ай бұрын

    This guy is hilarious without even trying 😄

  • @SmokeyHouse
    @SmokeyHouse3 ай бұрын

    5 year old hacking xbox n i cant get a vpn to work 🤣🤣🤣

  • @naths3010

    @naths3010

    3 ай бұрын

    Alt f4

  • @chasegimbel1904

    @chasegimbel1904

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m sorry but how can you not get a vpn to work there literally plug and play

  • @SmokeyHouse

    @SmokeyHouse

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chasegimbel1904 it was a joke 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kingpin76110
    @kingpin761103 ай бұрын

    As it turned out his real name Is John McCafée.

  • @goldnutter412
    @goldnutter4123 ай бұрын

    1:01:01 That is how the mind works We take external data, we add it to our data, we try to make MORE information not less (the universe is a digital entropy reduction trainer, a virtual "machine") Amazing story guys, thankyou

  • @CenitV
    @CenitV3 ай бұрын

    I remember getting in to another xbox account in a similar fashion. I download a couple of games for gold users and play it in my account

  • @melantheoszimurri9981
    @melantheoszimurri99813 ай бұрын

    If your shit is vulnerable, and someone tells you about it and you do nothing to secure it it should not be illegal to exploit it

  • @nithin604
    @nithin6043 ай бұрын

    What happened to your sound. Sounds different

  • @deadmo1
    @deadmo13 ай бұрын

    they made him wait 4 years. its a classic thing they do to break people beyond repair, it has alot of chances to keep them in the criminal loop, its all on purpose. they made me wait in the same fashion for a year and a half, and the same depression happened to me. they know they are doing this, yet they keep doing it, because the goal is to ruin people's lives, its not anything else.

  • @crackedtvgaming
    @crackedtvgaming3 ай бұрын

    Music came off pretty loud 😅

  • @banbpablo
    @banbpablo3 ай бұрын

    Google docking after this 📈

  • @kingpin76110
    @kingpin761103 ай бұрын

    I’m just going to get in there and look around. Five mins later. Well I’m just gonna put the tip in. I promise…..

  • @zTribalstylerz
    @zTribalstylerzАй бұрын

    So it was about then I decided to REOFFEND!

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris19843 ай бұрын

    Everytime he said "PoliCE station" I kept hearing him say "PLAYSTATION" Driving me nuts... "They just kept me in the playstation" Every single time...

  • @dustins7259
    @dustins72593 ай бұрын

    Back in the PS3 days DDoS was very prevalent in games like Madden or really any online game that had achievements that required online Player vs Player. You also could get the IP as long as they were in your lobby, didn't need much else. You could even do this in COD games and kick the entire other team if you wanted.

  • @hatenasjunjou4651
    @hatenasjunjou46513 ай бұрын

    Sick style, seriously. 🎉🎉

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator3 ай бұрын

    Oh the wow lag macro, i remember that one.

  • @Theabstractblu
    @Theabstractblu3 ай бұрын

    Damn Daniel

  • @natorsi
    @natorsi3 ай бұрын

    I love these teen hacker stories as someone who was super active on the internet of that era as a tween and teen. I even got hacked when I was ten and running my own little insecure website. This lets me see the other side.

  • @cryptoclyph22
    @cryptoclyph223 ай бұрын

    Did he not do anything anonymously

  • @HolyPire
    @HolyPire3 ай бұрын

    Where is spacebar on a xbox?

  • @chasegimbel1904

    @chasegimbel1904

    3 ай бұрын

    The buttons on the controller correspond to keys, either that or there’s a virtual keyboard on screen

  • @shamelescampr5594
    @shamelescampr55943 ай бұрын

    Anyone else? Just open KZread. Waiting to see the next video

  • @andrewclodfelter6760
    @andrewclodfelter67603 ай бұрын

    Let's gooooo!

  • @creative.money_eu
    @creative.money_eu3 ай бұрын

    Best ending ever!!! :))

  • @woritsez
    @woritsez3 ай бұрын

    tsk, them Kelly's and their shenanigans

  • @balys07
    @balys073 ай бұрын

    Drinking game: drink if you hear "if this make sence"?

  • @nickadams2361
    @nickadams23613 ай бұрын

    that is 10000% mishandled async code

  • @Astrogator1
    @Astrogator13 ай бұрын

    His treatment in the prison system was interesting. That he caused embarrassment to Dido Harding may well have have influenced his treatment. She has repeatedly shown stunning levels of incompetence while being up to her neck in the most corrupt British government in more than 100 years. Sounds a lot like embarrassing the wrong person at the wrong time. I also find it hilarious that it was the Metropolitan Police Service (the met) that was investigating this as they are the most corrupt police force in the UK if not Europe.

  • @markbird5461
    @markbird54612 ай бұрын

    Why does he Finnish every sentence with "does that make sense¿"

  • @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
    @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel3 ай бұрын

    sounds like these companies over paid the heads and stock holders and not enough staff and sponserships for young hackers..

  • @AntiWanted
    @AntiWanted3 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @JohnSmith-ii8pp
    @JohnSmith-ii8pp2 ай бұрын

    The biggest vulnerability and threat is google. They are technically doing the same. They find it, and share it. Google needs to add logic to their crawler to not add that type of data to their database.

  • @jchastain789
    @jchastain7893 ай бұрын

    My boy

  • @Netbase2000
    @Netbase20002 ай бұрын

    Always the same. He should've gottten hunddret thousands for that exploit he found with 12. Should've just make it public or sold it. These companys..

  • @Netbase2000

    @Netbase2000

    2 ай бұрын

    They seem to offer up to 20k and "up to" 60k in some cases now. Still not enough if you ask me. To find one at microsoft. You could make hundred millions on the black market

  • @BC.702
    @BC.7023 ай бұрын

    Reminds me of the good yahoo booter days 😂

  • @joshuapacheco2898
    @joshuapacheco28982 ай бұрын

    People would dc people in halo 2 back in the day lol iykyk

  • @spinner8930
    @spinner89303 ай бұрын

    the Welsh talk like they've got rrrocks in their mouths(love your beautiful accent Daniel

  • @Ludeo
    @Ludeo3 ай бұрын

    Title should be "Hacking" World of Warcraft

  • @charlieporter5423
    @charlieporter54233 ай бұрын

    Let’s go

  • @bTabard
    @bTabard3 ай бұрын

    "Is it a crime to walk around a building looking for open windows?" If they can prove that, pretty sure that's prowling 😂. But you gotta have "tools" on ya so again it depends

  • @reallytho99
    @reallytho993 ай бұрын

    Why do people not want you to post about teenagers hacking? This stuff happens and not sharing or talking about it won't help.

  • @Dyanosis
    @Dyanosis2 ай бұрын

    Participating in a crime is called being an accomplice. Your question is like asking "is the get-away driver a criminal?". The answer - Yes. They are assisting in a crime by providing some service to criminals. That makes you a criminal. If your child steals gum from the store and you knowingly don't return it or do anything about it, then that makes you, and your child, criminals. You knew what you were doing was wrong and you did it anyway. At that point, I question your moral compass. Also, the guy being interviewed really gets on my nerves with his nonchalant "I guess I did, yeah". Don't act dumb, you know what you did was wrong.

  • @kingpin76110
    @kingpin761103 ай бұрын

    He didn’t like jail. Really?

  • @j_t_eklund
    @j_t_eklund3 ай бұрын

    Finding a bug is not 'hacking'..

  • @Dyanosis
    @Dyanosis2 ай бұрын

    33:29 - There's no honor among thieves. 45:24 - "That's really serious offending". Oh is it now? You're literally blackmailing people and stealing, even if it's "only virtually, no one physically gets hurt". You're no better than the armed robber. Also, this guy is giving me "this is so fake" vibes. Lots of "you know"s and "I guess kinda"s.

  • @ride1123
    @ride11233 ай бұрын

    Hack me once........

  • @user-nu8yk6jp1o
    @user-nu8yk6jp1o3 ай бұрын

    First one here!!

  • @droidguy9970
    @droidguy99703 ай бұрын

    view 69!!!!!

  • @FeloniousSavage
    @FeloniousSavage3 ай бұрын

    I'm Jack Rhysider and this is the dirty buttsegg diary's.... 😮

  • @bumlookercheekymonkey3985
    @bumlookercheekymonkey39853 ай бұрын

    why in world does a black hat forum need a moderator 🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @ImARealHumanPerson

    @ImARealHumanPerson

    3 ай бұрын

    Someone wants to feel powerful 😅

  • @raymond_luxury_yacht
    @raymond_luxury_yacht3 ай бұрын

    He vulned gchq. Bwahaha. What a joke they are

  • @ClickClack_Bam
    @ClickClack_Bam2 ай бұрын

    What happened in jail that week lol?

  • @mistress707
    @mistress7073 ай бұрын

    Sending hugs to Daniel! 🫂💖 Come to my country to recover and open business, there's around 0 security companies, and lots of opportunities 💪🎉😂

  • @user-gw4fj9ij6j

    @user-gw4fj9ij6j

    3 ай бұрын

    Where is it if u don’t mind asking ?

  • @mistress707

    @mistress707

    3 ай бұрын

    @@user-gw4fj9ij6j Heyo! Best I can do here is to say -> somewhere in EU. ☺️🌞

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