Gwen Stacy's Bold Move
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Spider-Man did an oopsie, but why? Let's find out!
Comic: What If...? Dark: Spider-Gwen
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In this "What If...?" Dark comic series, the story explores an alternate timeline where Spider-Man dies instead of Gwen Stacy. After Gwen saves Peter from falling off the bridge, he still dies later due to an accident. Gwen decides to take on Spider-Man's identity but realizes she lacks superpowers. She enlists Harry Osborn's help to stop the Green Goblin, but tragedy strikes when Harry accidentally kills his father, the Goblin. Gwen briefly retires but ultimately dons the Spider-Man suit again to stop Harry as he takes up his father's legacy.
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Harry called Gwen a murderer Dude *YOUR THE ONE WHO PULLED THE TRIGGER*
@TheLindsayKnudsen
11 ай бұрын
That doesn’t matter. The murderer is whoever came up with the idea. It’s in the rules.
@Ashelybee
11 ай бұрын
"you made me accidentally kill my father even tho that was my decision while not knowing who the green goblin was and because he was important to me that excuses everything evil he has done fuck you also I'm evil now"
@marvelstarwarsfan8410
11 ай бұрын
@@Ashelybee yeah Harry was the one who pulled the trigger,doesn’t matter if he knew Green Goblin was his dad or not he still shot him.
@Patisdead
11 ай бұрын
Ikr
@krysys9703
11 ай бұрын
The leaps in logic this man will go across timelines to blame Spider-Man for his father’s death istg
“She suits up, like a dumbass” had me 😂😂😂
Spider-Man: *Breathes* Writers: Your existence ends now
At the time, Harry is Peter’s roommate. Peter doesn’t even pay rent.
@ryanchua6520
11 ай бұрын
Was it because the door was never fixed?
@killabean990
11 ай бұрын
@@ryanchua6520Ahaha love that reference
@zame-osomething5096
11 ай бұрын
@@ryanchua6520 Awesome reference. Nah, it was because Peter was broke and I think Harry’s Dad owned the place so they both got it free.
@VerdeMorte
11 ай бұрын
@zame-osomething5096 Lemme get this straight, Norman tracks Spiderman's movements all across the city, notices they all seem to come from or to the apartment building, and didn't think it was suspicious enough to use the key as the building landlord?
Bruh the writer ignoring that it requires super strength to properly used Peter's web shooter just so the narrative could work 💀
@mr.vansjohnson7469
11 ай бұрын
why Are marvel writers being more stupid?
@Swagat_Mishra
11 ай бұрын
True. If any normal person will try to web swing they'll loose their grip and will fall down eventually.
@fynnthefox9078
11 ай бұрын
@@Swagat_MishraOr they'd pop their arms out of their sockets.
@clarkstrange2142
11 ай бұрын
Did you miss the part where Gwen doesn’t even web swing, she just shoots the web and it hits nothing
@sheevpalpatine7401
11 ай бұрын
idk multiverse shenanigans
I just want a timeline where this man lives a happy normal life 😭
@idoknownothing8209
11 ай бұрын
That'll take a while lol
@theokkali467
11 ай бұрын
@@idoknownothing8209 No, it will take 500 million years!
@charmingmagican9821
11 ай бұрын
Well there's the Mexican spider man comics where gwen lives
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
11 ай бұрын
SAME BRUH
@blackM4MBA_0
11 ай бұрын
@@idoknownothing8209a while? Nga you crazy, marvel is never gonna give this man a decent day in his life
Gwen didn’t kill Norman. Harry killed him and in his wrath he wanted someone else to blame
Even though Gwen is powerless here. But fact remains even without spider powers Gwen is still good person.
@dylanbarracks3509
9 ай бұрын
Nah og gwen was a bitch who hated spider-man until she died
I like this timeline it's like an alternate alternate version of spider-gwen
Spider-Man wouldn’t be able to clap Gwen Stacy 👏👏
@idoknownothing8209
11 ай бұрын
Bruv 😂😂😂
@emmanuelojurongbe2469
11 ай бұрын
no matter what universe Spider-Man will always die and suffer. It's a canon event.
@salmonbond2926
11 ай бұрын
@Loganhumandudehe still could…
@user-ku5cg3ui4d
11 ай бұрын
@@salmonbond2926 indeed
@Swagat_Mishra
11 ай бұрын
@@salmonbond2926Hell naw, my man Spidey isn't a necrophile.
Harry: YoU kIlLeD mY dAd! i hAtE yOu! My brother in christ, he killed your best friend, tried to kill gwen, killed hundreds of innocents. Also you shot him in the first place. Why do writers like to make harry a moron? On raimi harry was valid because he saw him with his fathers body and didn't knew the truth.
@Grag235
11 ай бұрын
We stan Raimi Harry Osborn, in Spiderman 3.5, Harry decides to FORGIVE Peter (without knowing the truth), and help him in the fight, heck, I can’t even blame him in the original Spiderman 3, he had to be told that his father died from his own hands that WASN’T the person that he THINKS killed his father
Peter gets done in by a concrete corner? Seriously? I can understand that if he didn't have his powers, but here... He does! He's taken a lot of punishment, but nope, concrete corner equals death
@spider-man5544
11 ай бұрын
True i would just expect him to have temporary amnesia or something like getting ko'ed and died by drowning not dying immidiately
@youtubestudiosucks978
11 ай бұрын
Spiders can actually die from falling wrong. It happens a lot more often then you'd think
@projectzfoundation3065
11 ай бұрын
@@youtubestudiosucks978Yeah but he is a spider man so nuh uh
@youtubestudiosucks978
11 ай бұрын
@@projectzfoundation3065 man can also die from falling wrong
@krio1068
11 ай бұрын
We're talking about a guy that needs to step back every time some thug throw a punch at him because that would break the thug hand. Let alone being able to survive explosions at his face, fucking concrete corner is making him dirty?
I got the feeling that in this universe Gwen would end up dying either way
1:42 Yo Peter Parker making ma chucklenuts act up
Why Was Spider-Gwen on The Cover of This Comic? This Is Not About Her, It's About Gwen Stacy.
@idoknownothing8209
11 ай бұрын
Click-bait? 🤷♂️
@PCMan8922
11 ай бұрын
@@idoknownothing8209, Maybe. Kind-off.
@johnpett1955
11 ай бұрын
Yeah idk.
@gaetanotruisi1211
11 ай бұрын
I suppose It Is intended that in this version of the story, After a while, Gwen transform Peter costume, in her own version of It, which May resemble the Spider-Gwen One (this One already had a Hood). But Hey, that's Just a Theory
@johnpett1955
11 ай бұрын
A COMIC THEORY.
If you have done research on Greg Land, the one who drew the cover for What If...? Dark: Spider-Gwen. Gwen's face on the cover isn't one of anguish.
With his durability that corner piece should've just knocked him out ya know unless well he's died before and came back due to the totem piece being accepted (the other) idk...spider neck muscles though...he's been thrown through various concrete walls even steel head first...what if stories are so weird sometimes.
@thesuperiorhobgoblin9048
11 ай бұрын
Yeah but I think it has more to do with the speed plus force of him falling and the fact that it specifically hit him in the back of the head. That can really mess up anyone, even Spider-Man
The Gwen Stacy thing should have ended with The Evolutionary War.
I kinda view this comic like Loki, wanda vision or flacon and the winter solider. Cool story and idea. But the writing starts to fall apart when you look at moments like with Gwen trying to be Spider-Man. It would work if she got a buff if strength or something. Or some training. Probably training is the biggest handicap needed here
Wowzers Gwen really has it really going nicee for her At 3:03 3:13 and 3:18 One of the reasons why we love her
@finchatforharambe905
6 ай бұрын
Bro 😂
Shoe was on the other pinkie makes sense ngl
Harry: Shoots and kills his father Also Harry: WHY DID YOU DO THAT GWEN?!!?
This is why normal people can't be Spider-Man.
@blackops7809
11 ай бұрын
A good example of this is Spider-Man Fake Red. You should give it if you haven't yet
@johnpett1955
11 ай бұрын
@@blackops7809 or the fake Spider-Man from the insomniac Spider-Man game.
@blackops7809
11 ай бұрын
@johnpett1955 There 1 redeeming quality for them, Yu at least is a novice rock climber (still nearly died trying to get in the building), and the fake Spider-Man is good at fighting (still nearly died if it wasn't for Spider-Man interfering against Kingpin's men)
The ol’ room 😲
Calls a hammer fired weapon a glock me a me a weapon history buff: *wheeze*
@somedorkydude6483
5 ай бұрын
For those who dont know there are two different firing mechenisms for a pistol hammer and striker The glock is best known for its plastic block looking design with it not having a hammer. Thats infact its well known for being striker fired. Btw i dont care people get this wrong if you want to make me angry tell me nunchucks are a good weapon.
Wow that guy is a no win situation because it was his own fault for his own dad and Gwen didn’t tell him to shoot him but call the police
Damn bro I always find myself quoting the lizrad from the first TASM movie. Poor Peter Parker your fookin 6 feet under mate.
I actually like this as a setup because gwen could be like a batman version of spider-man.
Is it odd I think this Gwen is kinda cute
@UnlimitedIvory
11 ай бұрын
Nah there's been worse takes
Spiderman :- The Cuck of Happy Life
Biggest uno reverse card in all of history.
This sounds crazy
im just confused. dont you need spider-sense to properly websling? don't you need strength to even handle all that motion??? gwen will die the moemtn she attempts to swing like peter did. if not, then by harry or just some thug.
@mrmistermelom
11 ай бұрын
You don’t need spider sense, you need to have fast thinking, but yes strength is needed
@TheHonoredOneHimself
11 ай бұрын
spider-sense literally guided peter. he doesnt even look to where he swings. either way, comic book gwen wasn't portrayed as the super smart science geek that TASM did. she isn't that much of a fats thinker anyway, so she would still fall due to not being able to navigate. or her arms would tear off since the sheer pressure cant be handled without super strength, or, a thug will kill her.@@mrmistermelom
@TheHonoredOneHimself
11 ай бұрын
@@V..v..V you clearly dont know much of the lore than. miguel doesn't need spider-sense because he already got ENCHANCED sight and hearing, but a lot of the time in the comic he focuses on climbing rather than webslinging. this version of gwe stacy is a regular human being with no special capabilities. you keep ignoring the fact that even if she does pull off the weblinging (which is physically impossible by the description) HER ARMS WILL BE TORN OFF BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SUPER STRENGTH.
@jeremiahscott2032
11 ай бұрын
@@TheHonoredOneHimselfyes and no. Peter uses math to properly swing through the city, but does use his spider sense when he’s too busy to focus on swinging.
@TheHonoredOneHimself
11 ай бұрын
@@jeremiahscott2032 what type of math is used???? where did you get this information from??? he uses his spider sense to swing, if he focused on math 100% of the time while swinging, then how come stupider spider-men like flash be able to web sling??? infact, in across of spider-verse, all of the spider people dont look at where they are going. I'm using this example since most of you guys came from that movie. but spider-man needs his senses to properly swing.
at the end of the comic miguel o'hara comes in
Don’t worry it’s a cannon event
……I’m going to do it; REMEMBER WHEN GWEN WAS PREGNANT WITH NORMANS TWINS!!!!????
@danielgraham1082
4 ай бұрын
Retconed thankfully
Boggle your noodle🤪
If this was canon then I’d hate Gwen more than MJ a thousand fold. And I HATE MJ
Peter Parker can never be happy
Seriously Spiderman had endured more than a black slave in 1800
@idoknownothing8209
11 ай бұрын
Bruv
@ozzie_theotter
11 ай бұрын
This ain't it chief
i despise the heros no kill rule.
I know she would try to be the new spider man because look at spider Gwen backstory peter died
Harry's logic makes no sense.
@danielgraham1082
4 ай бұрын
He had so many mental problems at the time so he wasn’t actually thinking rationally
Shouldn't the Wall be spiderman's greatest villain because according to this comic he died to concrete
So Gwen dies anyway is what you're saying
something happens
Why this man is so torured, why marvel can't gave him a happy life ?
gwen staceys death is a staple or shall i say canon event?
Marvel clearly has a weird fetish for torturing Spider-Man 😳
@idoknownothing8209
11 ай бұрын
Big facts
@alikuwait3443
11 ай бұрын
@@idoknownothing8209 FR they give this dude PTSD's daily
Wait, I thought Peter Parker was strong bc of spider genes wtf
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
11 ай бұрын
His durability differs from comic to comic it's the usual with comics.
What if Mary Jane Fell instead of Gwen?
Smash
I read the bible more than comics man
@idoknownothing8209
11 ай бұрын
Ok
Hi
I just got the notification and it has 24 likes already. I was trying to be the first.😢
First
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I’m not sure what to comment.
@idoknownothing8209
11 ай бұрын
Welp
@johnpett1955
11 ай бұрын
Left speechless.
Second.
This comic was just poorly written. 🤦♂️