Also before I get comments about it, yes I'm now aware I messed up explaining the "BFN is technically GW3" bit. It was a test name before things really got changed, I apologize for the confusion And one last edit just because I kinda expected this, please remember that what we’re talking about here is a hypothetical follow-up to a game centered around shooting Plants and Zombies with pellets and peas. I see some of the comments and have deleted a few, if you’re getting obscenely nasty with your replies I’m not engaging. Be so real, it’s childish to hate enough to threaten over a series like this :)

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

3 күн бұрын

I have this nagging suspicion that this video was at least partially targeted towards me… especially at 6:39

@mightymadness5355

3 күн бұрын

Dude... SHUT UP! people like you need to get their facts straight

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast actually tiktok was my inspiration for this video. About a year or so ago, I made a video explaining my thoughts on if we’d ever get a BFN2 or GW3. I said “nah, but the more likely of those two is BFN2 if that were ever a possibility” and I got sooooo much hate 😭

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

2 күн бұрын

@@SylviaYSI Well that sucks! I’m sorry to hear about that.

@Buddy09

2 күн бұрын

​@SylviaYSI I like bfn it really just need some more time it only had a year and now I doubt we'll get a new shooter

Tbh. It can't happen even if Popcap tried. The team who made GW1, GW2 (And Bfn ofc) have left and are doing other things. So if Popcap did make a GW3. It won't have the same charm as GW1 & GW2. Because if they hired new Devs on the game, they prob give them a run down on the game and won't give them much info on it. They would change a lot of stuff that the community wouldn't like. Like Foot Soldier would use a shotgun and he could switch weapons and other variants could do that can hurt hard. I love GW1, GW2, and BFN. But Popcap isn't themselves as they used to be back in 2009 to 2017. Their golden age is over and we have to accept that. The only thing we can do is wait for time to fly and see what happens. ( Also updating GW2 might be good. But then again, I'd rather stick to what we have now...)

i don't think it'll ever come out, but if it does, i just want it to be like gw2, but better (if it's even possible). Great video Sylvia, wish you an amazing day, much love :3.

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@bouser It’s hard to top GW2 for a company like PopCap. This is assuming that the same team is working on the game, and well… we know the end of that story. It’s late in the evening, but I hope you have / had an amazing day too :3

@therealno_one

2 күн бұрын

@@SylviaYSIwhatever happened to the team that worked on gw2? I remember they started their own company but I don’t recall any of it

I feel like gw3 would just be am expansion to gw2 rather than an actual new game I personally wouldn't mind if gw3 was just the same varients but as 2 but just more for the gw2 classes like have 10 corn variations like peashooter 10 imp varients etc maybe add party sunflower, all star and whatnot and maybe the bfn cast but thats probably all they could do for a gw3 other than new maps and modes.

@nicholasaugello2534

3 күн бұрын

Garden warfare 3 should have A LOT MORE MAPS than it originally had I want to double the maps across all of the game modes

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@_Celestial An expansion idea is neat, something like Persona 5 Royal or Pokemon Emerald. Though honestly they’d have a shit ton to work on if that was something they ever considered, and considering the state of the team… yeah not likely.

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

2 күн бұрын

@@SylviaYSI Even the state of the game is a lot to handle. I wanted to talk about all of my ability balance proposals in one video, but the script ended up being ~8 times longer than any other video I've made. And that's not even considering the BFN abilities or the CHARACTERS themselves...

Honestly, i'd say what we really need is a GW2 rerelease with maybe 1 or 2 more varients per class, balance tweaks, a couple new maps, a new way to get Unicorn Chomper but most importantly Crossplay, Cross Progression and a Competitive mode (I'd borrow TF2's highlander format) GW2 is basically perfect, it's just outdated in some of it's online play structure.

@ToadetteTails6969

3 күн бұрын

GW2 Switch edition would make me scream, tbh. I loved when BFN got that treatment, but now I gotta see at least GW2 (now I'm thinking of bundling the two games together with GW2's artstyle, like all the maps from GW1 would return in this Switch edition for GW2)

@sin_3sdrvjulas89

3 күн бұрын

is far from perfect

@evilyoshimaster

3 күн бұрын

@@sin_3sdrvjulas89 Well yes, but I mean in terms of what we want from this particular franchise

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@evilyoshimaster I just don’t ever see it happening. Bear in mind that PopCap has yet to make a PVZ1 remaster, and that’s some of the easiest money imaginable. It’d be interesting to see what would happen for GW2, but yeahhh I’m holding my tongue on re-releases until PopCap proves they could even do the first game justice.

@mr.productions327

2 күн бұрын

​@@SylviaYSI They also haven't ported PvZ2 to consoles. That is also an easy way to make mountains of money.

I don’t think having more variants and characters would be bad since not many people take the game that seriously and unlocking the characters and trying them is the fun part. I also think saying that there’s no room for innovation is silly because you can say that for any well received game.

@SylviaYSI

2 күн бұрын

Can very much understand where you're coming from, it could be just my perspective seeing what PopCap's tried and failed at. The game could possibly have something to innovate with, but the company behind the game isn't really all that great at this sorta stuff sadly.

BFN may have died quickly, but was one helluva good time.

@kolkagaming1234

3 күн бұрын

But Minecraft Legends died quicker than BFN ☹️

@puzzledhypnoshroom1004

13 сағат бұрын

ATP every game does put quickly nowadays

Well, even if it does come out, I’ll just rebrand whatever I make as GW4 if it turns out to be bad lol

@personwithname5830

3 күн бұрын

It's the guy!

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

3 күн бұрын

@@personwithname5830 From the comments!

@The-coolest-bone

3 күн бұрын

@@TwilightChomperEnthusiastfrom the garden warfare videos

@PhantomNugget

3 күн бұрын

When’s the next video? Been awaiting it

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

3 күн бұрын

@@PhantomNugget It’s nearly finished!

6:39 I feel called out lol

@the_patch_notes

3 күн бұрын

I feel like this video called out the community lmao. She is right, the community has made both positive impacts but also very negative ones. They just want more of what they got, but the game already reached a limit where if they added more, it would break open and flood everywhere with more negativity. And you already know how negative gaming communities can be I bet. The community is a famished beast that is hungry for pretty much anything, but throws its food out if there is something new added and isn’t the same

@thehustle-6142

3 күн бұрын

@@the_patch_noteswtf do you mean she?

@Random0king-tw5pn

3 күн бұрын

Oh mah fuxn god mann! Is that Twilightchomperenthusiast from the hit YT channel "Twilightchomperenthusiast"?!

@the_patch_notes

3 күн бұрын

@@thehustle-6142 was saying that the stuff Sylvia said in the video about the community is right.

@thehustle-6142

3 күн бұрын

@@Random0king-tw5pn yep

Maybe if they remade alot of gw2 maps and added it to gw3

I totally agree that GW3 won’t and shouldn’t happen, what should happen instead is finishing BFN

I agree with your statements regarding GW3 being pointless. But how would you feel if they decided to bring back GW2, and update the game? They could have some really cool features! Some would include, adding Cross Play, updating graphics, fixing bugs + glitches, balancing characters, and maybe even adding new maps, and brining back old mystery portal modes. I always hoped this would be a possibility one day because the player base in GW2 hasn’t gone down too much and it’s awesome to see people caring about the game 8.5 years later. Think of it similar to Overwatch. Overwatch shut down the servers to their first game, updated, balanced, and remodeled everything. Then made an identical game and slapped the number 2 on it.

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@ChronosPlayz That would be a very ballsy move for PopCap. The Overwatch 2 comparison is interesting, though I don’t think it holds much weight when you look at how that game is compared to GW2. OW2 succeeded because the game is ultimately just OW1 but free (and a little worse but realistically doesn’t matter much), GW2 would need to do something similar to capture people’s interests because I guarantee most people who initially bought GW2 wouldn’t buy the same game 8 years later.

4:15 how the heck does Yeti struggle against imps😭

BFN was pretty fun, but lacks substance. I think the lack of variants really hurts it because it just got kind of boring and repetitive, the singleplayer was really good and well-fleshed out, but the multiplayer got stale quick.

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@An_epic_orange I see where you’re coming from, there’s some lacking parts in the game. If it got more development time, it’d probably have had more fleshed out areas and overall more content

@Seedy2

2 күн бұрын

I think also the very early release of bfn really hurt it in the long run, If it was allowed to have more time to Develop longer it would’ve likely been a much more successful release overall to the greater public Just having little content on release and through updates just didn’t help it’s case when garden warfare 2 just had so much of it already (arguably maybe you could count the very big art-style shift from GW2 to BFN making people not wanna play it)

@ocularzombie6679

19 сағат бұрын

the fact you have to pay 35,000 coins for ONE CUSTOMIZATION and the damn Rux microtransactiona

Maybe instead of gw3 we just got more updates for gw2 like quality of life and maybe some more maps

it probably won’t come out until gta7 comes out

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@Furious289 GW3 is the Mother 4 of shooter games tbh

@Furious289

3 күн бұрын

@@SylviaYSI yeah

@Furious289

3 күн бұрын

@@SylviaYSI btw ur videos are really good

GW2 updates is the thing (even if it is impossible), the game is ready, it's still expensive but it's the most realistic thing to happen to revive PVZ shooters. And about PVZ3, they are updating the game to put a Battle Pass, Almanac, Multiplayer content, more plants... What I'm trying to say is that they may cook with this game, even if it is bad now, maybe they are doing something, like these Supercell games that are pretty popular. PVZ3 is our only hope for the franchise, maybe it's time to criticize, but not hating.

I agree with your statement since if GW3 is released today it'll be plagued with many problems plaguing the AAA industry (primarily live service games): - Online-only (which means you cannot play the game without internet and also requires subscriptions just to play the game on consoles) and no single-player campaign. - Variants will be added but several variants get removed from launch for no reason just to add back later (just my theory) - "Release it now, fix it later" mentality allows EA to rush GW3, releasing it as a buggy unfinished game and fixing it later *cough* Battlefield 2042 *cough*

In a "perfect world" I would imagine PvZ GW3 as an expansion to GW2(So no BFN characters) mainly in 4 areas: 1) Making sure that each character has at least fire, ice, toxic and an electric variant (there could be more but this one is more realistic to be honest) 2) Adding all maps from GW1 and GW2 plus maybe 1 new turf map and team vanquish map also GW1 maps could be redesigned to fit GW2 characters or put in a "classic mode"(same as Wall Nut Hills in GW2 so only GW1 classes) 3) New story mode 4) More stuff to do in a hub world such as secrets, areas to play around with friends ect.(of course the hub world would look depending on what story GW3 would have) That is if the original team that worked on GW1 and GW2 would work on GW3. And I think that is it. The only downside is that this game would be REALLY big.

@ocularzombie6679

19 сағат бұрын

I would personally add a couple new classes because that's what they did between 1 and 2. BFN also got the big hub mostly fine, besides that fact it's damn near impossible to 100% them all and they're all apart

also most of the reason people love gw2 is nostalgia, nostalgia plays a huge factor and if gw3 existed and was slightly different then gw2, people would be pissed

Gw1 maps + gw2 everything (including style, bfn is ugly) + bfn's better balance + it's characters + it's good side=perfect gw3. I think we don't need a brand new everything, we just need to mash up the good side of these three games.

Another thing is that, even if by some magical miracle Gw3 ends up being good, there are still a lot of factors to consider when it comes to sales. Think about it: the current market is quite saturated with her shooters. Overwarch, Marvel Rivals, Deadlock... and most of them are quite hated. And believe it or not, the pvz shooter games are also hero shooters (at least an extent), meaning that a Gw3 game will also have to compete with not only Gw2 and Bfn, but also its entire competition. So even if it ends uo being good, it will be hated anyways just for existing. And if there is something i learned from Bfn and Pvz3, is that recently EA hates adding some advertising. So, in other words, Gw3 might sell as bad, if not worse, than Bfn. But honestly, my main issue with this Gw3 thing is how muhc ober excitment there is for nothing. Like, what makes people believe that Gw3 will be an instant masterpiece? What makes people believe what we will get Bfn hidden as Gw3 instead of a proper Gw? Guys, just deal with it. Modern Popcap is not the same as old Popcap. If you eant Gw3, make a fangame of it yourself.

@Dr.jerk1357

3 күн бұрын

But oh wait, the whole debacle with popcap banning fangames on roblox

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@Otherface Regarding that last statement, based off of what I’m reading in the replies clearly there’s a project in the works right now. Perhaps the community can cook? Only time will tell, otherwise this game is a complete pipedream

@Otherface

2 күн бұрын

​@@SylviaYSI I've heard of it before, but the last thing I heard from said project is that it was canceled. Thought I haven't seen an actual statement about it.

Tbh that hot take really is spicy, considering Citron can one-shot Imp in BFN using Spin Dash. Ngl, BFN is the game I come back to most. Idk, there's something that gives it a leg up on GW2. Maybe it's the new roster? Also, here's a hot take of my own, though I don't know how much of a hot take it really is. I prefer GW1's artstyle in comparison in GW2. I'm so sick of purple and orange skies. Also, Engie needed his facial hair back, another plus for BFN lol-

I think a garden warfare 2 remaster would be better. Just some updated graphics an anti cheat, more polish, a few new variants and continued support. It doesnt take much more than that.

Bfn got fucked over by the fact that so many people went into expect it be a surrogate garden warfare 3 that it never got chance to be it's own thing. I still think it the weakest of the 3 shooters, but thats not saying much when it's still a solid 8/10. Besides, does anyone here actually trust modern popcap to make a good sequel? They're like valve. At one point i would have trusted them, but at this point in time, their current track record isn't doing them any favors

It’s super unfortunate you’re probably right

I think what I would've really wanted from a content update or a new game would be to have more maps for a sense of variety outside of the characters, including recreations of GW1 and GW2 maps with adjustments to the layout to let the new coming characters fit in the map. I remember the reason that the GW2 Characters weren't normally playable in Wall-Nut Hills because they would get stuck in certain parts of the map. Though I do see how that concept would be quite ambitious for a new GW/PvZ Shooter game.

Honestly, if I were to wish a GW3 into existance... I would just wish for more of a GW ultimate kind of thing. Basically, make it a Switch port (like with what happened to BFN) and fuse GW1 and 2 together. Might sound strange, but hear me out: What if we could play all the OG maps from GW1 in GW2, not just Wall-Nut Hills? What if GW2 had the sprinting mechanic like BFN? The possibilities for a Switch port are massive! (plus, I just wanna experience GW1&2 without having to get an Xbox)

I think they should only add new variants for corn, citron, rose, nut, snapdragon and nightcap. Also bring back every map

I think the best possible future would just be a modern gw2 with all the best gw1 maps kinda like a combination of both games

When i say more variants i mean like mainly for the newer characters that are missing ones like toxic or frozen corn

GW2 is probably my favorite game of all time. What made it really special for me was unlocking all the characters and playing al of them

I got this next to a video called "Lobster popsicle:

I truly believe that bfn was the last good PVZ game pop cap made, but its problem was that the marketing was nonexistent and the majority of its audience was unhappy with it. The game was doomed to be compared to its already “perfect” predecessor, which ended in its reputation being that it was the worst game among the pvz shooters. Imo bfn as a stand-alone game isn’t even that bad. If bfn was given a little more time and attention I wonder if it actually would’ve been something to keep the franchise up float.

Ea closed the Popcap Vancouver right after they cancelled Bfn.There will never be a Gw3 sadly.

an update with the classic maps and some balancing patches would be the correct way

Idgaf if it would be good or bad I’d prolly sink time into it

In a GW3 that uses BFN as a base for the newer roster of default characters for new variants would more realistically be like: Snapdragon and Electric Slide would either become variants of a class or be removed entirely. Wizard becomes standard. The current Swarm character would either get removed or become DLC characters like Torchwood and Hover Goat 3000 in GW2. No Iceberg Lettuce, Toxic zombie or other elemental characters as default (Berry Brigade and other scrapped characters would do). Torchwood and Hover Goat 3000 could become free starting characters with variants. The costumes could become the new variants but there would be no costume customization (legendary upgrades and their costumes would get combined to become new variants). The new Upgrades need to be designed and built for all variants no issue (some upgrades might as well become new variants).

i see your point, and to a large degree i kind of agree, however i bring up the counterargument: let me cope pleaseeeee 😭😭😭 on a more serious note, i genuinely believe the existing campaigns in BFN would be more fun if you could play as GW characters, so while i see your point about "making a brand new game" i honestly do feel like a lot of what they added for bfn would work for GW characters, sure they could maybe use a retheme, but still as for new variants, they did make the shogun corn, which is close enough to a new variant imo, besides i feel like theres still some untapped potential in variants, especially with the GW2 characters since they all have 6 variants each compared to the GW1 casts' variant count, not to mention making legendary variants for the classic characters that didnt get one like peashooter, sunflower, and cactus, or completing some of the elemental variants, like making an electric all-star or an ice corn all in all, while i do agree that making GW3 today would be uh... not great, i do think that bfn as it is couldve worked better as a GW3

tbh, I'd kinda want them to return to BFN and improve that game and add back the scrapped new classes than a whole new game

@ToadetteTails6969

3 күн бұрын

Couldn't agree more. There's more zombies than Plants, which triggers my OCD. If the unfinished Iceberg Lettuce character was maybe added, then my OCD would finally be at peace.

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@MoebiusX9 Can you imagine if Iceberg Lettuce actually got added with proper balancing? That, along with those legendary upgrades too… I’d genuinely love it

Tbh cattail is KINDA balanceed w the high sun cost and only being placed on the pool

Honestly i think bfn needed more time it only got one year of updates i mean cod cold war came out in a not so good sate but after a few years is now considered one of the best mondern cods plus we missed out on 3 nee charitors and they may not even attempt to make s nee shooter because they have the impression that if they do something different people wont like it

Heartbreaking loss of beloved child (gw)

I would take the bas characters from gw2 and bfn give them 5 to 8 new variants and have non of the old ones return

Freezing cold take here, but idk, in my opinion BFN kinda is not that good and I was never able to understand how to enjoy that game, and the worst is that I actually think I would’ve enjoyed BFN if it kept going, some of the scrapped content actually looked good. Honestly, it would be really cool to see some kind of “BFN 2” improving in what it did wrong, but if we have a practically 0 chance of getting a GW3, I think that definitely is not going to happen.

I just want GW3 to be like GW2. More variants if they add the characters from BFN, A better hub world

I kinda wished GW3 existed but it doesn’t

0:00 goofy ass laugh

All the people who worked on gw2 are at dice and other places, so a lot of stuff would have been worse without all those people at popcap Vancouver being elsewhere This isn't the popcap we once had as said

Is it bad that I prefer garden warfare 1 because of nostalgia?

As much as I like the idea of a true gw3, it won't happen. Even if it did happen, it would only go downhill from here.

@SylviaYSI

3 күн бұрын

@@CoralReaper707 Gotta consider the age we live in with this hypothetical game. It’s just not realistically sustainable unless PopCap really did something amazing, but Vancouver isn’t around to take that challenge on, so… it’s not looking possible 😭

I just want a new shooter in general, even IF it's not gonna be Garden Warfare 3.

Even if GW3 or GW4 Won't happen. I wish we have something close for Tower defense/Garden Graveyard Ops/Adventure mode for PVZ GW Series. sure i enjoy turf takeover since PS3. But i would die happily more for Garden Ops and more zombies and more plants and more BOSSES. Especially Boss hunt. if only we can make our own PVZ GW But cartoony and non microtransactional but maybe grindy or adventure that would be Great. sigh. if TF2 can be fixed. So will PVZ GW Series. #SaveTF2 #FixTF2 #fixtf2 #SavePVZ #FixGW #fixGW #FixPVZGW

My thoughts are, remove the special characters from gw2 to 3, keep the original 8 classes the size they are in 2, maybe adding party variants to them at most, expand the 6 original “new” classes to have a couple more variants, remove hovergoat and touchwood, add in new characters with at most 4 variants, we’ll just say that the bfn campaigns are gonna be the gw3 campaigns, and that the hub world would still be giddy park, when they added the wizard and swarm characters that would be like hovergoat and touchwood where they don’t have variants and only have costumes. The reason people didn’t like bfn was beca they had higher hopes and they were met with an entirely new game without any of the char they loved and/or hated but instead they had 6 new characters that were all insanely strong and unbalanced with the woes being nightcap, absolutely destroying anyone in the beta due to now projectile drop or damage falloff, resulting in many people dropping the game

Future can be really scawe

Alright new video

4:90 big chance they could’ve added new characters and left some old ones out and bring some of the populair ones along Not saying it would be better, just another option

Bruhh ppl on pvz's insta comment section would always comment abt gw3 and when they will get it like "gw3 when" and such in ANY post. Its just straight up annoying💔

@torishimemiya

3 күн бұрын

This is also including the fact the shooter game team have been broken up and will never return;; all is tragic

This video only makes me wonder if PvZ GW2 was a mistake (if it should be a DLC for PvZ GW1 instead of its own game)

Why I like it because it’s pvz but it’s a shooter.

@hadijahabutazil9132

Күн бұрын

but can go in multiple ways when it releases 1.balancing crisis 2.terrible anti cheat like tf2 3.p2w 4.very rushed and a buggy mess

@Jelly_shy_guy_man

Күн бұрын

@@hadijahabutazil9132 agree, but it will NOT BE PAY 2 WIN, okay maybe a little, but the first game was pretty much fine

I'd prefer a remaster.

sad but true

Honestly gw2 should've just got more updates with bfn as a spin off

the problem is that popcap/ea pour all of their money and supplies into creating another game when you don’t need to, just build off of or update pvz games like gw2 bc of how popular it became. if gw2 still got updates to this day it would have been a trending game for sure. but you cant jusy make a game and not update it expecting people to keep playing it i think thats the main problem of this franchise

Garden warfare 3 would flop because of the current gaming landscape of FTP and all the down sides to that style of game. Adding more variants is literally what these games revolve around and isn’t a problem in any of the games so I completely disagree with the that point. Garden warfare is known to be an unbalanced mess of a game and that’s probably what most people liked about it so I disagree with the second point. And I don’t understand the 3rd point at all so yeah idk about this one.

Bro GTA 6 is gonna come out before gw3 💀💀

@coolkenman

21 сағат бұрын

😮

"even if it ever happened" she says as if ea wouldn't do that just for nostalgia pandering

I guarantee that BFN would have been way more successful if they just added variants. Imagine how cool it would be to have returning variants like plasma pea or the party characters mixed with whatever new variants they could have made for the new classes

@GNVS300

3 күн бұрын

Cold Snapdragon 🥶

@Bun_bunny195

3 күн бұрын

Varients alone will not make the game better

@GNVS300

Күн бұрын

@@Bun_bunny195 I mean they kind of would, since it allows for much more playable characters and the hype of unlocking new ones. They'd make the game _better_, but not guaranteed to be automatically good as a result

We all know GW3 wouldn't be good. PopCap and EA makes lower quality stuff nowadays

All i will say, is that bfn is the best shooter of the three and i will die on that hill.

I agreed with 3 things about this video, one Garden warfare 3 is never gonna happen Two the people that made garden warfare in 2016 all left Three the games balancing used to be the worst I've ever seen in any game I've ever played the only other game I've seen with balancing EVEN WORSE are the launch version of Multiversus But yeah everything else you said i didn't agree with , and at most we'll get probably expansion packs of Garden warfare 2 instead of a seque or even a remake of garden warfare 2 just with updated graphics, maps and new variants and the BFN characters coming to the game on a new and better engine to run the game on and update the balancing because still to this day Electro pea and Plasma pea are WAY over tuned for this game. There not the best but they feel the worst to be losing to

Where is the fortnite exotics video?

I agree gw3 won’t be good and community will still trash at it like they did to bfn. Considering gw2 has a large amount of trash content in it like the cosmetic variant , And bfn’s upgrades having 90% side upgrades that has little impact on gameplay and generally a lot more rushed than gw2.

Bfn was exactly what the fps side of the franchise needed. Something fresh, new, and different. And of course, the PvZ community took that dish and threw it at the wall, whining until the game closed its eyes. It still angers and saddens me to this day that bfn never got its proper chance from the players to shine

@adrianthegamer9281

3 күн бұрын

The campaign was so good in bfn better than gw2’s campaign in my opinion

@TwilightChomperEnthusiast

3 күн бұрын

Quite unfortunate indeed. When designing a GW3, I always find myself coming back to BFN because of how many little changes it made that make the gameplay experience SO much better. GW2 may be the superior game, but you can't say that it doesn't have its BS at times lol.

@SabaClayMateSaba

3 күн бұрын

realistically speaking imo, i think bfn was a good choice to stray away from the variants thing, it did have potential to be even better than gw2, but due to the mismanagement of the staff, and the overall negative feedback from 2019 to present day, that wouldn’t be the case, and that just breaks me apart like a lego set.

@tajaribeckles4339

3 күн бұрын

The franchise wasn't getting stale it only had 2 games if the game was marketed better and distanced it self from the previous games it could have been good but bfn changed to much from the previous games

@Dr_Dan_

3 күн бұрын

tbf the launch was diabolical, but again only because of the leaks

ok now, hear me out.... what about BFN2?

@macyvert

3 күн бұрын

HELL NAH

@macyvert

3 күн бұрын

HELL NAH

no

freak em GW kids lmao

Gw3 more like GW3

The best option? END THE FRANCHISE ENTIRELY!!!!!!!! This franchise HAS ZERO. GOOD. QUALITIES!!!!!!

@SylviaYSI

2 күн бұрын

W hating as always :prayerhands:

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They could absoluely do so much wifh garden warfare 3, are you actually kidding So outside of new classes, variants, maps customisations and game modes How about a solid single player (similar ish to bfn but actually let me toggle the difficulty) Rework the elemental character so that toxic and fire are more distinct At element abilities for each element variant (e.g fire Gatling pea) Add sprinting (small speed boost) and up the kill time for a more modern fast pace experience Rework spawnables so instead of them being consumables, you can buy them with points your earn in game (stops coffin spam) Rework the chomper so he’s actually a proper assasin and swallowing an enemy takes longer depending on the type of zombie he swallow (now you have reason to swallow an imp/Vs melee attack an all star) Also rhe idea that there are ‘too many characters is ridiculous’. Even with there being over a hundred, playing the game will naturally teach you which they are, and most of the time you’d fight a variant similar to how you’d fight the stock character. Huh, it’s almost like playing the game to know your opponents makes you better at the game! And yes, popcap is bad at balancing, but I’m telling you right now 95% of the community would rather have an unbalanced game (gw2) rather than a boring game (bfn). GW2 doesn’t need hyper fine tune balancing, honestly they could just nerf like 10 characters and the game would instantly be much better And saying there is ‘no where else to go’ for gw3, I mean that just shows a complete bankruptcy of the imagination. If you seriously can’t think of anywhere to take the GW franchise, then maybe modern Popcap should hire you lmao. Even if they didn’t do anything groundbreaking, you say unless they make new stuff, there would be no reason for it existing…brother…that’s how sequels work. They add new stuff to an existing formula…You think Popcap (prime Popcap to be clear) would make a sequel with literally nothing added. Listen dude I’m all for changing my perspective but this video was just all round not good, I don’t know anyone in their mother who says ‘there is no reason to get Gw2 if you have GW1,’ and if those people exist, they are by far the minority. Okay on the last point about plants Vs zombies 3 catering to the pvz audience, I mean this has to be probably the most stupid thing I’ve heard on the internet this year. The devs have made it ADAMNTLY CLEAR that they despise the pvz community and want nothing to do with it, which is why they ripped the sequel of all its predessecors most likeable aspects and labelled it a puzzle game. We told Popcap exactly what was wrong with their game, and they listened for about 5 seconds before once again firmly stating that THEY DO NOT CARE. This obsession wirh blaming the fans for everyhting has spread like a sickness across the internet and media in general. I hate to be a hater but I’ll say it once again, this video was just bad. The only valid point was that the popcap now is garabge compared the popcap before, but every tangent before that was just stretch after stretch, and it really just feels like you tried to be as bad faith as possible. I know this sounds personal but it’s really not, I respect what you do on your channel but this one was just not it, sorry

@veeravparbhoo7076

3 күн бұрын

My goat spitting fax

Why u 😠

Super Smash Bros never had balancing issues when adding new characters. But I suppose Nintendo are far better at balancing than PopCap. GW2's huge character roster is what makes the game so replayable but personally I would trim down the variants on the old classes in particular to bring the variant count up to a similar level with the new ones (it has ALWAYS been a pet peeve of mine the old classes get on average 4 more variants than the new ones), as well as removing the pointless ones, sorry Mob Cob you're my fave but you kind of don't need to exist. Or just start from scratch and make like 5 brand new variants for each class while removing most of the old ones, having bigger differences other than toxic, fire etc. I agree that if they made GW3 _now_ it would likely suck, but GW3 instead of BFN would almost certainly leave the franchise in a better place than it is today. Although personally I'd prefer if they just kept updating GW2, especially as PVZ2 is still getting like bi-monthly updates to this day.

hilariously, gw2 performed worse in terms of physical copies. only selling 1 million or so. mind you, gw1 has like 3.6 million copies sold, physically speaking. so maybe not enough perception and care is the thing that ultimately made pvz the way it is, even after gw2, it was the most hyped up game in 2016 and all that fancy stuff. pfft. so much for the word “improvement”

69 views in 5 minutes bro fell off🙏

yep your opinion doesn't matter. Have a good day

@Dr.jerk1357

3 күн бұрын

Okay jerk

@hadijahabutazil9132

3 күн бұрын

and also your opinion too

Biggest gw hater

@Dr.jerk1357

2 күн бұрын

Hilarious 😒

@hadijahabutazil9132

Күн бұрын

bro is too arrogant to see what pop cap and EA did to the tower defense series

Fell off 52 views in 4 minutes

blasphemy

I don't care if it would be bad, if GW3 ever releases I AM playing it. A LOT.

gw3 should just be bfn but with less weird looking models and old charater models. bfn was a good game it was just kinda weird

@Dr.jerk1357

2 күн бұрын

As if every other game wasn't weird in their own way

They'd probably kidify the game just like bfn. Brighter colored characters, smoother undetailed graphics, and 8 year old humor

@Dr.jerk1357

2 күн бұрын

BFN. Undetailed graphics, this doesn't line up.

Still gay?

@SylviaYSI

2 күн бұрын

Weird question lol

Respectfully, I completely and utterly disagree with this video. They could’ve just rereleased a mashup of the first two games and I would’ve spent $100 on it

It's okay to have the wrong opinion :)

@hadijahabutazil9132

3 күн бұрын

it's not an opinion it's fax pop cap now has a bad track record did you see what they've done to the franchise pvz3 and pvz match gw3 will flop this is not the same pop cap people knows and the team who worked their moved onto dice or other studios I wouldn't even trust pop cap if this is the new direction they're taking