Guns and Gear Used with Special Operations Vets "Coch," Dave, Dorr, and "Dutch"

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  • @TacticalHyve
    @TacticalHyve9 ай бұрын

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  • @pyeitme508

    @pyeitme508

    9 ай бұрын

    WOW!

  • @Craig_Narramoore
    @Craig_Narramoore9 ай бұрын

    I love how Dorr was hella quick to Coch's defense on the angled grip.

  • @SaundersE5

    @SaundersE5

    9 ай бұрын

    Those SEALS are thick as theives

  • @11BRelo

    @11BRelo

    9 ай бұрын

    But he was right some people become overly obsessed with cloning not understanding certain thing can’t be used on their weapons because of restrictions in certain states

  • @larrycorn4508
    @larrycorn45088 ай бұрын

    I started out inn 1966 with the M-14. On deployment, we got M-16s & 1911A1s. Eventually I went to another unit and had a XM177E2. Loved it and got my hands on a M-79. Had a great time. Became an instructor on the M-60 much later in my career. Enjoyed having my uncle pay for my ammo. After I retired, I spent 30+ more years as a cop. Take care guys love your shows.

  • @tylerfreal6472

    @tylerfreal6472

    13 күн бұрын

    LRRP?

  • @JosephTurano-wy1zg
    @JosephTurano-wy1zg9 ай бұрын

    You all are the best. I served navy 1980 1997 . Team 3

  • @charliemke
    @charliemke9 ай бұрын

    Love the longer format, cheers boys

  • @reddawn9420
    @reddawn94209 ай бұрын

    I like how dorr came to coch's aid with the miscommunication between he and dutch on the 308. "You're my boy coch!" 😂

  • @whatsup24_7
    @whatsup24_79 ай бұрын

    I picture Dutch shooting a M60 with a big cigar hanging out of his mouth

  • @10oner

    @10oner

    3 ай бұрын

    Gay. Picturing dudes…gay.

  • @believethehype8936
    @believethehype89369 ай бұрын

    I can't tell you how it felt to hear "Kitty Hawk" mentioned in this video. My dad served on that ship in Vietnam and for several years after. He died when I was a kid and it felt like he walked in the room when I heard this boat mentioned! Thank you guys! Thank you DUTCH!

  • @CaptainBash737
    @CaptainBash7379 ай бұрын

    This is definitely one of the most interesting gun channels on you tube. It’s not easy to come up with original content, with new and entertaining ways to present information yet the guys at T/H manage to do it time after time. The depth of practical knowledge is amazing without being too overt. Brilliant.

  • @pauliewalnuts5241

    @pauliewalnuts5241

    9 ай бұрын

    Agreed, I look forward to seeing a notification with a new Coch and Dorr video

  • @TheMakeReadyRanch
    @TheMakeReadyRanch9 ай бұрын

    That's a lot of bad assed heroes in one place. Thanks for the awesome content guys!

  • @vincecapri1
    @vincecapri18 ай бұрын

    How do you not want to drink a beer with Coch!!!

  • @RK57AZ
    @RK57AZ9 ай бұрын

    Yesterday you brought us on “the patio “ with D & C and today it’s on “the backyard bench” with triple D’s & C ! Special thanks to Dorr for helping the old guys with their weapons memory. I always enjoy these sessions. I’m still waiting for Wilson to make an appearance? As always stay safe and healthy guys. Ron Ps; I can say the old guys because I’m older than all of them!

  • @russ_vee_jr4199
    @russ_vee_jr41999 ай бұрын

    I could listen to these guys for hours on end. Who needs sleep anyway.......

  • @82lowe36id
    @82lowe36id9 ай бұрын

    Fun video boys. I enlisted in the Army as an 11B in 1997. M16A2 during basic, AIT and then when with 2nd ID in Korea. Only Squad and Team leaders had the M4A1. Team leader and up got PVS7-D Nods as well. Our company still had the M60 when i got there, but got the M250B before I left. I was also a SAW gunner and then grenadier (M16A2 with M203) before I PCSed. Then I went to Bragg and was amazed that everyone got a flat top M4, PVS14 nods as well as PEQ2. Never had to carry an M9 as that was only the M60 / M240B gunner. I did get stuck carrying a dragon while with 2nd ID.

  • @LRRPFco52

    @LRRPFco52

    9 ай бұрын

    I joined in '93. We had FN M16A2s in OSUT at Benning in 1994, already beat to hell. My first unit had M16A1s with A2 furniture. M249E2s, M60s, and we had M14s for ceremonies (TOG). I did a year in the line then went to Recon Platoon, where we had M16A1s, M21s, and M24s, as well as a bunch of various AKs from different nations. We did OPFOR Augmentee to JRTC multiple times per year. Right before I left, we turned in our beloved M16A1s and got brand new M16A2s. Went to 2nd ID, 1-506th in Korea in Feb 1996. In Korea, we had National Match M14s in Recon, M24s for Sniper Squad, M16A2s, and M16A2/M203s in the Recon Teams. In the line, there were PAQ-4Cs with brackets for the FSB on M16A2s, and PVS-7s for key leaders, gunners, and AGs. Went to Corps LRS at Ft. Lewis after that, M16A2s, got deactivated, went to 25th ID 1st Bde, and drew out brand new M4s in fall of 1997. We went to Panama with 2/75 Nov '97, and they all had M4A1s with KAC RIS, Para SAWs with little rail sections mounted to the standard handguards, ACOGs on M240s, Aimpoint Comp Ms on SAWs, Aimpoints on M4A1s, and PAQ-4Cs. They had London Bridges assault packs and LC-2 LCE. Grenadiers had TLBVs with 40mm pouches. I went to SFAS after that in March '98, then got attached to 1st SFG awaiting Q. In 1st Group, I had an M4A1 with KAC QD Suppressor. SOPMOD was trickling into SF at the time, so some ODAs still had M4 dual shield HGs, while others installed their RISs and all the accessories, including that POS Reflex sight.

  • @brentdhedrick
    @brentdhedrick9 ай бұрын

    As for people sleeping through war, I grew up 50 yds away from a major rail line, two clock away from where it met an intersection. In other words, every train, multiple times a day traveling at high speeds, with 200+ cars vibrating every wall in my house blaring the horn for 1 minute straight. When we moved to that place, I feel like I didn’t sleep for 1 month. After that, slept like a baby for the following 5 years. Never noticed them. Been 20 years since I lived there and for some reason, to do this day, I hear a train horn and i get mad.

  • @billdittman680
    @billdittman6809 ай бұрын

    Thank you all for serving and protecting our country! I thoroughly enjoy listening to your experiences in the US military! Keep it coming I can’t get enough!

  • @stiker0068
    @stiker006828 күн бұрын

    About to finish my 20yrs in the AF. I’m knew to the Hive and want to let you guys know this grey beard talk is legendary. Dorr I know you’re my age. Just saying, all you need is camp fire and tell “locker room” sorties ( stories) and it’s great. Keep it up/ just got a cap from you guys and hope you’re all in SoCal soon

  • @jasonfritzler6209
    @jasonfritzler62099 ай бұрын

    Driver, and loder carried the grease gun. I was a 19E, and 19K. Because they would be used on the LP/ OP for you Defense positions.

  • @armeddiver
    @armeddiver9 ай бұрын

    Gentlemen, thank you for making this video. I was on active duty with the Army from 75 to 96, but I never heard a shot fired in anger, and then in civil service with the Army from 97 to 2019. I learned a lot from this video that I did not know. Your conversation about the different types of bullets and twist rates in the older guns was extremely informative. I have a little research project going and your information just gave me a completely new area that I will need to checkout. Again, thank you I sincerely appreciate the information.

  • @Prepper319
    @Prepper3197 ай бұрын

    what an amazing channel & video ... thank you so much for this guys ! & THANK YOU for your service to this great country .

  • @nopenope134
    @nopenope1349 ай бұрын

    Somethings funky with the sound. Sounds warbly and modulated. Noticed this on the last few videos.

  • @nerdalert8501

    @nerdalert8501

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah, sound like they forgot to remove a sound track

  • @TerryWhisk

    @TerryWhisk

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah it’s super distracting

  • @The78CJ5
    @The78CJ59 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your service fellas glad you lived through it all. Be Safe.

  • @guenterhaines8898
    @guenterhaines88982 ай бұрын

    Cool to see the different in military cultures play out in their personalities and answers. Love this long form content.

  • @czjunky2045
    @czjunky20459 ай бұрын

    Dorr that was so nice of you to lend Dave your UDT shorts

  • @classicgiraffe
    @classicgiraffe9 ай бұрын

    Definitely need more conversations like this. Its awesome to get these guys perspectives on what actually works. great convo!

  • @williamsweet7511
    @williamsweet75119 ай бұрын

    You guys are awesome, thanks for your service and keep the videos coming.

  • @kaa_man
    @kaa_man9 ай бұрын

    Love their stories. Wealth of experience and life changing events in the history of these guys. Respect!

  • @paulbarela6548
    @paulbarela65487 ай бұрын

    Thank you guys, I was in a SOW unit for 3 years and in a fighter wing for 7. 1990-2000 I always appreciate other forces, because I was In the Air Force and they never let me carry a gun but just to qualify. I was an avionics troop. Huey N1H1, H60 Blackhawk, CH53, C130 and then the F-16.

  • @andrewsmith5100
    @andrewsmith51009 ай бұрын

    This was awesome. I was an infantry marine from 2006-2011 and always been a military history nerd especially gwot and post Vietnam stuff. this video answered so many questions I’ve wondered. Thanks so much guys!

  • @Averagetactician
    @Averagetactician9 ай бұрын

    I could seriously listen to you guys talk for hours. I'm a firearms nerd and this sh!t is fascinating. Keep up the good fight and for the Seals keep balancing those beach balls. -God bless

  • @rawnjon
    @rawnjon7 ай бұрын

    For the Ranger. I was a GMG 80-84. And both ships ammo ship and sub tender we had 870s M14s M60s 45s and M79. For guarding nukes port security etc.

  • @LordRahl11
    @LordRahl119 ай бұрын

    Love listening to the stories of the guys like this. Great content, keep up the good work. Unfortunately I'm just a commoner that can't afford the war room but I will keep watching anyways.

  • @colindegrow1475
    @colindegrow14759 ай бұрын

    Of course, Dutch started out in a tank. He's built like one. Great video guys!

  • @yngzaklynch
    @yngzaklynch9 ай бұрын

    Enjoyed this one guys. I wish you would have touched on 300blk. My understanding is when it first hit the teams there were reliability issues but they have since been ironed out. I guess it’s being used with great success these days.

  • @MrChuckwagon55

    @MrChuckwagon55

    9 ай бұрын

    The .300blk was a derivative of the ..300 whisper which was designed specifically for the Unit. They were designed for their quietness with suppressed guns mostly for 100 yards and in & CQB.

  • @Rc-Adventurers
    @Rc-Adventurers9 ай бұрын

    Love the old pictures. So cool to here these stories. Thank you for your service

  • @blessedbaphomet
    @blessedbaphomet9 ай бұрын

    Truly appreciate the insight and knowledge y'all share for the benefit of anyone willing to shut up long enough to learn.

  • @bullfrog8221
    @bullfrog82219 ай бұрын

    War room is awesome, I joined and have not regretted it.

  • @SteelHoarse
    @SteelHoarse9 ай бұрын

    BEST Video yet! Thanks guys!

  • @MThomas001
    @MThomas0019 ай бұрын

    Very Cool. Nice break from the new war.

  • @rdodgehemi
    @rdodgehemi9 ай бұрын

    Some of the coolest info exhchange I’ve heard. Super fascinating to hear the theory’s and learning that went on with in the early days. And a comparison between the two

  • @nmhockey5
    @nmhockey59 ай бұрын

    iv been really liking the episodes u guys have been putting out the last few weeks

  • @renegadearms
    @renegadearms9 ай бұрын

    Always nice talking about the good old days, I remember the first surefire weapon lights that came about to us conventional forces we thought they were so bright and now days we’d scoff at them.

  • @lonewolf597
    @lonewolf5979 ай бұрын

    Great stories and info, thanks Gents!

  • @pisom4314
    @pisom43149 ай бұрын

    great video!!! love listening to the wealth of knowledge from these guys!!!

  • @nathanpwerner
    @nathanpwerner9 ай бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant, great content and great personalities

  • @chocolatedumdum2
    @chocolatedumdum29 ай бұрын

    Great video loved the banter and knowledge!

  • @duncanidaho0175
    @duncanidaho01759 ай бұрын

    95 SOPMOD, SUA SPONTE RANGERS LEAD THE WAY 1ST PLT 1SQD A TEAM RSOV TEAM

  • @adamadams6740
    @adamadams67409 ай бұрын

    Another good one thanks guys!

  • @giborchayil
    @giborchayil9 ай бұрын

    Great conversation...

  • @bh-2198
    @bh-21989 ай бұрын

    Thanks Coch, Dave, Dorr and Dutch! :) :us

  • @whatsup24_7
    @whatsup24_79 ай бұрын

    Yes gun talk

  • @adamjones1641
    @adamjones16419 ай бұрын

    Great idea for a video and great group of guys

  • @fleetman2021
    @fleetman20219 ай бұрын

    Great information thanks.

  • @chadlucero
    @chadlucero9 ай бұрын

    Tankers shoot bigger loads. I was a tanker in Germany in the 90's on the M1A1. Personal weapon was a M9 with the shoulder holster. 120mm main gun, M2 .50 BMG for the TC, M240 for the Loader, and M240 Coaxial machine gun. There was a M16A2 in the loaders station used for security LP/OP. The Army was a professional force in the early 90's. We did have to learn infantry tactics because of the peace keeping BS in The Former Yugoslavia. Great video fellas.

  • @kez0o9
    @kez0o99 ай бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @user-kn4rf2ly3q
    @user-kn4rf2ly3q9 ай бұрын

    Amazing content, thanks

  • @hondo375flint2
    @hondo375flint29 ай бұрын

    Very interesting thanks guys

  • @thomasbrandon5111
    @thomasbrandon51119 ай бұрын

    You guys are to funny. Luv'd hearing the evolution of your eras. During Nam if you weren't team guys we saw some A1s but otherwise M14 or shotguns. Side arms were 1911 unless you had your own revolver. Saw some CAR16s with SF guys. River Boats had 60s and some 30 cals and some M16 if I remember correctly, but since I was a diver assigned to an MSO I only saw M14 , shotgun, and 45. The ship had a 50mm on the bow lol. A shotgun would do wonders to a sanpan hull. Man did things change listening to you guys😎

  • @kevinramsey3490
    @kevinramsey34909 ай бұрын

    Loved this episode!

  • @jamesgunnyreed
    @jamesgunnyreed9 ай бұрын

    I was hoping to hear Coch mention the Stoner.

  • @thomassmith537
    @thomassmith5379 ай бұрын

    Being a Roof Rat on the Kitty Hawk y’all’s comments on Ship life was very funny. I loved the smell and taste of jet fuel so much I became a Aircraft Mechanic. I’ve been retired 3 years now and I go get a fix of jet exhaust every now and then to keep the withdrawal in control.

  • @keganwallace8753
    @keganwallace87539 ай бұрын

    Damn that hour flew by quick! Great content fellas 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @seanbrando_7456
    @seanbrando_74569 ай бұрын

    Awesome content.......imagine the cool gear ya'll could've had if you had gun nerds instead of committee's help you select it. That's what is so cool about looking back like this. If only we used history for a reference point more often right? Thank's again Gent's. Great stuff indeed..........

  • @PHIllip324
    @PHIllip3247 ай бұрын

    "German Desert Eagle" is the best nickname for the Mark 23.

  • @dmp3418
    @dmp34184 ай бұрын

    Great content

  • @gob7116
    @gob71169 ай бұрын

    Eyy yall did the ep where I was hoping the navy SOF and Army SOF talk about guns and gear. Awesome vid! With T1 and T2 perspectives, even if the T2 guys are a little younger too lol I am curious to if it was only back then that Coch could buy an m1a and use it overseas for work. Don't they prohibit deploying with personally owned guns now? If so, when did they start prohibiting it, how did ya'll get to bring them and use them back then, and was it solely just a Navy SOF thing?

  • @HoppedUpOnMtnDew
    @HoppedUpOnMtnDew9 ай бұрын

    True statement… we shot what we brought. I learned more after I was discharged regarding ballistics and how it all works. Semper Fi boys, keep it going.

  • @jerold8908
    @jerold89089 ай бұрын

    love it

  • @larrygibson9273
    @larrygibson92739 ай бұрын

    The 1911 that I had in Basic, you could almost field strip it by shaking very hard.

  • @ohgerald
    @ohgerald9 ай бұрын

    Just one of the most informative and funniest videos you guys have made 😂

  • @jamespatterson6783
    @jamespatterson67839 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @lolol1725
    @lolol17256 ай бұрын

    0:23 pistol grip where the stock should be - got it!

  • @claytonhowe2309
    @claytonhowe23099 ай бұрын

    Fun and interesting

  • @ReconMD
    @ReconMD8 ай бұрын

    We were running the Saw in 1991 in Guam and K bay, after coming back from Iraq.

  • @Whitehawkvisionfilms
    @Whitehawkvisionfilms9 ай бұрын

    Great vid

  • @Invader137
    @Invader1379 ай бұрын

    I ran the jet shop on the America, so I'm wondering if Dutch was with us in '94. Very impressive seeing those Rangers practicing tactics around the hangar bay. Of course, I kept my shop bubbas busy helping the helo guys. NSDQ. Perhaps the best short cruise I ever went on.

  • @dallasweber7692
    @dallasweber76929 ай бұрын

    Served With The One Of The Greatest Mr. Lamb In Somalia & Back The We Didn’t Have The Best Of The Best HK-416 To The Front. Now From Kuwait To The Highway Of Death To Afghanistan & Anywhere We Went On All 7 Continents Of The World Our Careers ( 32 + For Myself) Honor & A Privilege Throughout The Years. I Would Do It ALL Over Again. Regardless Army Ranger Sniper To Tier 1 JSOC I’m Glad Its In My Mirrors Now.

  • @corvetteguy1980
    @corvetteguy19809 ай бұрын

    Mossberg 500 and Beretta M9 at RTC Great Lakes and then the M16A2 and M9 at ECS in Gulfport, Mississippi

  • @heppnerhouse
    @heppnerhouse9 ай бұрын

    Can't wait till this gets relabeled as "An Hour of Ex Special Forces rambling to fall asleep to"

  • @SaundersE5

    @SaundersE5

    9 ай бұрын

    Then don’t watch.

  • @heppnerhouse

    @heppnerhouse

    9 ай бұрын

    @@SaundersE5 It was a compliment to the video and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was meant at a rib to the algorithm that makes those videos shoot to the top. But hey, take my comment as a negative and be mad bro.

  • @theplourde
    @theplourde7 ай бұрын

    A video with a Ranger, two SEALs and a Delta. I thought it would be more chaotic

  • @Pompomgrenade
    @Pompomgrenade9 ай бұрын

    You are the best group of people for realizing that only the laws of physics are real

  • @eriklambert3809
    @eriklambert38099 ай бұрын

    '93 in the Army was 14.5 A2 Colts, Beretta or 1911 depending on what you were doing. I got a Block 1 somewhere in '98.

  • @stephencasner531
    @stephencasner5319 ай бұрын

    There was a gas check collar in the 60 could be put in backwards and you got a single shot sniper 60

  • @Trav_Can
    @Trav_Can9 ай бұрын

    30:32 It's true. I've experienced it. If you sleep through the sound of dogs, motorcycles, and roosters... Your body has trained itself to not be bothered by those sounds while you sleep. Sometimes it's silence that wakes you up.

  • @timberwolf2459
    @timberwolf24599 ай бұрын

    Dorr: "This was the Abrams?" Dutch: "...no." Come on, haven't you made the poor guy feel old enough 😂

  • @scattergun7810
    @scattergun78109 ай бұрын

    Interesting topic. Tell us more about MP5's used in deployment, especially those dope MP5SD.

  • @DowntownDeuce2
    @DowntownDeuce29 ай бұрын

    47:40 is the way to our hearts

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill32579 ай бұрын

    When you realize you may have " met" one of these guys while playing the delta force /blackhawk down pc games when having seal team insertions and coop missions... You can still get Leatherwood optics with the art system from hi-lux . They have the m1000 and m1200 for pretty affordable. $500 and $600 msrp.

  • @jquinones7683
    @jquinones76839 ай бұрын

    Love to see this type of content. Ever thought of collabing with Karl and Tactical Rifleman team and doing a vid?

  • @Kriss_L
    @Kriss_L9 ай бұрын

    20 years active Navy - managed to avoid both carriers and Norfolk.

  • @bloodbath3585
    @bloodbath35859 ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed this one. Lets get a tattoo breakdown video

  • @toynazi
    @toynazi9 ай бұрын

    I was shocked to hear that SEALS don't have a ballistics training course or something. I'm glad the AR ban had a sunset. Over the last 20 odd years I have tested and researched so much so I knew exactly what to use for various senarios.

  • @TexasShaka
    @TexasShaka8 ай бұрын

    Fuck I miss having similar convo with my guys. One crappy part of being retired now

  • @Mosrmosr993
    @Mosrmosr9932 ай бұрын

    Coch’s backyard looks like Tiki heaven

  • @AltronT
    @AltronT9 ай бұрын

    Great video makes me think of some of the legends surrounding the Afghanistan and Iraq wars like the Museum of Baghdad and the giant of Kandahar.

  • @u.s.aarchangelforgod3679
    @u.s.aarchangelforgod36799 ай бұрын

    TY T.H

  • @Recon_and_Raid_TV
    @Recon_and_Raid_TV2 ай бұрын

    What is the L2RP round you guys were talking about that you used in MK12’s? I’m searching for it and can’t find it anywhere :/

  • @carlbecklehimer1898
    @carlbecklehimer18989 ай бұрын

    Brown Bess flintlock... Lmao 🤣

  • @SgtRudySmithbRet
    @SgtRudySmithbRet9 ай бұрын

    I always carried 2 mags of black tip for my M14.

  • @Chonkasaurus
    @Chonkasaurus9 ай бұрын

    Does Dave get more buff every video? Whatcha feeding this man... 😅

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