While he is mostly known for playing Gul Dukat, Marc Alaimo is the only actor in history of ST that had played the very first person of two different major alien races in history of ST. In TNG episode Neutral Zone he played Commander Tebok, the very first Romulan to appear on ST. In TNG episode Wounded, three years later, he played Gul Macet, the very first Cardassian to appear on ST. While these two were his most prominent of his appearances on ST, Alaimo also made several guest appearances in verious episodes. He played French speaking poker player named Frederick LaRouque in TNG episode Time's Arrow. He played character named Badar N'D'D in TNG episode Lonely Among Us. This was his only ST appearances for which he was not credited, however. Before he started playing Gul Dukat, he appeared in DS9 episode Far Beyond the Sun as Police Officer Burt Ryan. He was also directly involved in the creation of the look of Cardassians. Producers had trouble creating a brand new race which would play big role and had to look menacing. The problem was solved when Alaimo came to audition for a completely unrelated guest character. When producers saw Alaimo's naturally very long neck they made the decision to give Cardassians very prominent long necks. Naturally, Alaimo was the very first actor to be cast as Cardassian and his character Gul Macet was the first ever Cardassian to appear in an episode of ST.

@miroslavtomic7038

3 ай бұрын

Alaimo is also in third place for most characters played by same actor in history of ST, with a total of six. Record holder is Vaughn Armstrong with a total of 11, while second place is shared by Jeffrey Combs, J.G. Hertzler, Randy Oglesby and Thomas Kopache with 7 each. Alaimo is also one of only six actors in history of ST who appeared on 10 different seasons, appearing on three seasons of TNG and all seven seasons of DS9. The others being Rosalind Chao, Jeffrey Combs, John De Lancie, Jonathan Frakes and Tim Russ. Alaimo is unique, however, for playing six totally distinct characters as he played a total of two humans, two Cardassians, an Antican and an Romulan. Despite his most famous character Gul Dukat obviously being a staunch nationalist and ultra conservative, Alaimo is a lifelong and vocal Democrat.

@miroslavtomic7038

3 ай бұрын

Also, his character Gul Macet is very unique in history of ST in that he was the only Cardassian to have facial hair, as he had a distinct parted mustache around his mouth. No other Cardassian ever was shown with neither mustache nor beard.

@yaumelepire6310

Ай бұрын

Commander Tebok wasn't the first Romulan to appear on Star Trek. That honour would go to the Romulan Commander in Balance of Terror, an Original Series episode all the way from 1966. He was played by Mark Lenard.

"Tensions will rise, nerves will fray, and someone will make the tiniest mistake." One of the most chilling quotes I've ever heard in my life.

@ilttpvvm

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly describes what is happening in the South China Sea right now...

@yobogoya4367

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bojan_V Guess that means I had a better childhood than you. You want a cookie? Does me admitting that feel like some sort of victory to you? Spoiler alert, I don't care that your daddy was mean to you. Not even a little.

@tdirtyatl

2 жыл бұрын

That's how WW1 started

@martinw1327

2 жыл бұрын

this is how every war was started

@connordowning216

Жыл бұрын

It explains the outbreak of war in all circumstances. they're avid followers of history, they knew the first bullet fired from the first nervous member was the start of war.

I just love watching Gul Dukat. More layers to him than an onion.

@cormacmacsuibhne2867

4 жыл бұрын

Or an Ogre.

@spaceflight1019

4 жыл бұрын

Marc Alaimo never got the credit he deserved for portraying Dukat. He went from a vaguely annoying bureaucrat to an angry, grieving father hellbent on revenge.

@Alamandorious

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping he'd be one of the good guys in the end.

@dawolf856

4 жыл бұрын

I applied that notion to Garak

@Alamandorious

4 жыл бұрын

@@dawolf856 I figured he would.

The direction they took Thomas in is the best proof of how different you could have been based on your circumstances and experiences.

@Zero8880

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, nature vs nurture.

@jamesbizs

4 жыл бұрын

I mean. Duh?

@aceflashheart

4 жыл бұрын

Fiction is not proof of anything.

@phokingamajing

4 жыл бұрын

Then there's Star Trek: Nemesis...

@AllknowingUnknown

3 жыл бұрын

Shinzon - Picard 🤔

“This is a very entertaining story but…why am I listening to it?” I gotta start using that

I know Dukat is the villan. But I love the character. Some of the best acting in the entire series.

@Revkor

4 жыл бұрын

he was a gray character.

@doublestrokeroll

4 жыл бұрын

@@Revkor no he wasn't. He was a horrible being and they clearly wrote him that way. Just because he had charisma and loved his daughter didn't change the fact he was basically a nazi. Garak was much more of a gray character.

@serpentsepia6638

4 жыл бұрын

The best characters were the villains -- Dukat, Garak, Quark, Weyoun(s).

@doublestrokeroll

4 жыл бұрын

@Emperor Ssraeshza Well you're entitled to your opinion but I loved season 7. Thought it was fantastic. And no, he really wasn't. Kira and the Bajorans talked multiple times about the atrocities committed by the Cardasians under his leadership. It was obvious right from the beginning of the show the Cardasians were meant to historically mirror the Nazis/Germany.

@doublestrokeroll

4 жыл бұрын

@Emperor Ssraeshza oh geezus....you're one of those huh... Nazism isn't socialism. And yes he did. You obviously haven't watched the episode "Waltz". You obviously don't know what they were doing with the character.

0:16 "....Oh boy, I'm going to need more Kanar for this bullshit."

I love that before they tell him the Maquis have the Defiant they broke out the Kanar. Its like, "We've got something to tell you, but first...you're gonna need a drink."

@alexbaxthedarkside

2 жыл бұрын

Great observation, Dukat will wanna be sitting down when he hears this. XD

0:51 The look of realization and sheer horror on Dukat's face here makes this scene. This is the face of man that knows just how f*cked he is.

@MoonlightArchitect

4 жыл бұрын

Marc Alaimo KILLED the transition from 'barely invested' to 'intensely concerned' Great character work from a great actor

@davidknowles2491

4 жыл бұрын

@@MoonlightArchitect Hard to imagine he once had a cameo role in Total Recall (he was a security guard in the "two weeks" scene)

@termitreter6545

4 жыл бұрын

I assume his delivery is also consciously exaggerated, in order to get the maximum out of this fuckup of the federation.

@mavoc3094

4 жыл бұрын

The moment Dukat realizes the issue, he starts playing a dance to get Sisko on his heels to maximize the value they can get out of the federation's screwup. Sisko knows he is being played, but also knows he has to go along with it due to the hand he was dealt. This is very much like the dance that Sisko and Weyoun had about taking down the minefield, except they were on equal footing trying to play each other. DS9 had so much nuanced writing in which the words spoken were just camouflage for what was really being said.

@fadingjedi

2 жыл бұрын

Fucked on all sides.....

I love how Dukat acknowledges how the Defiant is "one of the most heavily armed warships in the quadrant".

I missed this Dukat in the later seasons.

@johannbezuidenhout2976

4 жыл бұрын

They turned him into a one note villain just for the sake of having the emissary storyline end in a fight in a cave, with a vague ending for Sisko.

@Bitchslapper316

4 жыл бұрын

@@johannbezuidenhout2976 Yeah, I think it was pretty bad writing in regards to Dukat. They wasted all the time they spent building up an interesting and complex character and turned him into a generic mustache twirling villain. Also his scenes with Kai Winn Adami were some of the worst in the franchise. Not the actors but the characters and their story. I don't think anyone wanted to watch three hours of two corrupt politicians / religious zealots read a bible in a living room.

@trekkie1981

3 жыл бұрын

@@johannbezuidenhout2976 he wasn't all that nice, I mean he was still a douche with tyranny in his past.

@johannbezuidenhout2976

3 жыл бұрын

@@trekkie1981 Never said he was nice. They just wasted a up till then well written character on a badly executed final arch.

@kiko1935

2 жыл бұрын

I think the idea is that after Ziyal dies and he loses the station Dukat loses it. Then he reveals his true evil when he and Sisko crash land and get honest - he wanted the bajorans to worship him and because they refused he wanted to kill them all. All the "charm" and diplomatic BS he spewed before went out the window and we see his real ugly nature. I agree that it would have been nice to have him more morally gray but that's not really the ending he deserved, he was a bad dude who revealed his true colors .

I love coming home from a hard day to these clips

@RandomGuy33369

4 жыл бұрын

I feel ya.. Good stuff

Dukat was a most awesome gray character, despite his dirty past. He was also still a terrifying villain, even though not everyone was up for the path he went down.

@raideurng2508

Жыл бұрын

He's believable. He's competent but not perfect, confident, but arrogant, and we see him go through some real shit that sort of justifies how he can finally take the very wrong path.

@Archedgar

Жыл бұрын

@@raideurng2508 .... at least until the last season when the writing went completely to shit. I have a hunch that Dukat was intentionally ruined because the writers hated Marc Alaimo personally. Every panel I've seen, the staff & writers seem hostile to him and complain about how he played Dukat. Ungrateful piles.

@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502

6 ай бұрын

Dukat was never grey. He was a complex character, but he murdered millions during the occupation. He was always a monster, all that changed is he embraced that fact instead of trying to rationalise his actions.

@teleportedbreadfor3days

6 ай бұрын

@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 He was a grey character for the story. He also showed that grey characters can embrace evil and not exclusively good.

At thisnpoint Dukat was still playing both sides. He made an amazing villain, because in most cases you could sympathize with him. Until he joined the Dominion you never knew if he was truly an enemy, or just an opportunistic pain in the ass.

@Cailus3542

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, no, not at all. During this period, Dukat was still a loyal Cardassian soldier. During this episode (and many others), he's actually a genuine ally of the heroes.

@Thatslifebro_

4 ай бұрын

​@@Cailus3542he is more of an ally, but the atrocities comitted under his Orders in the Occupation make him impossible to trust. Unless you know what he does is for his benefit to a certainty he might be exploiting you. Like the case where he acted the "good Cardassian" who only wants to deliver Cardassian Orphans back to their Parents only for it to turn out he set it all up to rid himself of a political enemy by besmorching his name. Even when you think the Guy for once is on the moral side chances are he is working you. In this case his main concern is to avoid a War between the Federation and Cardassia by stopping the Defiant. But he also uses the opportunity to gain detailed information about the Defiant and gets a Chance to insist on the destruction of a potential obstacle in regaining control over Bajor.

I really like this Dukat. I read somewhere that they sort of flipped on his character twice, originally he was meant as a straight villain but the writers did such an amazing job writing him as a grey character, the show runners started leaning into it, until at some point they decided to go back to the original plan. I really wish they hadn’t.

@fgdj2000

Жыл бұрын

Flipped isn’t exactly it. In the DS9 companion, they say they always wanted him to be a villain, albeit a very complex one with complex motives, family live, kindness, but ultimately he believes in his own moral superiority and that of his people above all else. However, because of how well written he was and Marc Alaimo‘s amazing performance, fans actually started to sympathize with him and see him more as a heroic character. The writers did too good a job and so with seasons 5-6 they gave him more villainous things to do. Particularly the episode „Walz“ was the moment when Dukat truly grasped his own nature and quit deceiving himself - instead of that breaking him, this made him actually far more dangerous.

@Archedgar

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the last season was complete shit exactly for that reason. All the characters' moral ambiguity was thrown away for a really generic & tedious 'HURR DURR WE R EBUL' vs 'HURR DURR WE R GUDDER'.

@travismoynahan1479

Жыл бұрын

How about the best one and only book to read?

@TheMannCrux

Жыл бұрын

HE WAS A SPACE NAZI FFS

@Archedgar

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMannCrux a space socialist you say?

Great piece of acting

@revolutionday1

3 жыл бұрын

.....right?! Especially if you've ever seen the actor without his makeup etc. He is basically NOTHING like this character!

This whole DS9 was one excellent acting episode after another. You don't see this in every show.

@MrGoesBoom

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly a response to B5 which was meant as a bit of a space opera from the start. DS9 started episodic like every other Trek before it, but as B5 hit it's stride and started getting good numbers DS9 switched and started putting in story arcs that built on each other and didn't ignore what happened last week ( as opposed to TOS and TNG where previous episodes might get some mention, but mostly didn't matter and each episode was self contained ) Hell, IIRC JMS tried to sue, seeing as he pitched B5 to Paramount first before going elsewhere ( I forget who picked up B5 ). Made even stronger since DS9 went a bit off the rails for Trek ( as envisioned by Roddenberry ) and turned into a full scale war with fleet actions and everything....oddly, after B5 got popularity for the same and apparently people liked seeing ships blowing each other up. That being said, both shows had excellent actors who really owned their characters and made them what they were ( For the record I was always a Trek fan first, and I liked DS9.... but big B5 fan too and growing up watching both as they went on it was kinda obvious even without forums who was copying who for viewer numbers )

@pflaffik

2 жыл бұрын

Despite popular criticism at the time, ST Enterprise had good acting too. But the characters of DS9 was much more entertaining, Garak Dukat Odo Quark Sisko Weyoun were all awesome, Jadzia was young and extremely pretty, Rom and Nog were fun, not so great Bashir O'Brien Kira Jake but none were really annoying.

@pflaffik

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGoesBoom TOS wasnt even shown in the order episodes were filmed so continuity was not much of an option.

@shaun_rambaran

Жыл бұрын

@@pflaffik I disagree: Jake was really annoying... I did love old Jake though, played by the same actor who portrayed Kurn. My best friend and I are at Season 4 of Enterprise, and we are totally blown away by the level of acting talent on there! Phlox is ace, Tucker is natural as hell, Scott Bakula is a wizard at body acting, and all the other main cast are absolutely solid. T'Pol seems to be the most iffy: She's brilliant sometimes, but falls a bit flat others. Both series have Jeffery Combs though and what more could an acting fan want?!

Dukat's "OH SHIT" face at 0:51 is so hilarious 🤣

@hobomike6935

3 жыл бұрын

how has it not become a meme yet? it looks like the kermit drinking lipton tea meme, except he has a MUCH funnier reaction

0:52-0:56 That'd be a *GREAT* "What?" gif.

@dynamicworlds1

4 жыл бұрын

Make it, post it, link it?

@captain_hat6247

4 жыл бұрын

@@dynamicworlds1 I don't know how to make a gif

@leemaxwell8228

3 жыл бұрын

And Senator Vreenak will say, “It’s a FAKE!”

@hobomike6935

3 жыл бұрын

@@leemaxwell8228 no no no, *first* he says "IT'S A FAAAAAAAAAKE" and *then* it cuts over to dukat choking on his drink and saying "... *what?"* then it cuts over to gowron from "tacking into the wind" saying "there can be ONLY ONE ANSWER to that!" and throwing his imperial sash down on the table

The fact that a teleporter accident like this even CAN happen is terrifying to think about. They could probably do this on purpose if they wanted to. Make several Captain Picards to handle diplomacy in different sectors. Go even further and make an army out of one man. It also kind of makes me think that "teleportation" can be seen as murder. They are just disassembled and then replaced with an exact replica in a new location. If the teleporter can make copies of the datastream, what makes the first copy any more real than the second? But in the way that the two Rikers are different people, doesn't that mean that every person who comes out of a teleporter is technically a different person than the one that went in? In that sense, we've watched our beloved characters die over and over again on screen. I certainly don't LIKE to think of it that way...

@cavejohnson5916

4 жыл бұрын

...Now I'm going to be up all night reading debates about the morality of transporters.

@tempprofile6715

4 жыл бұрын

Scientifically speaking any form of teleportation as shown in science fiction would require literally killing the person and recreating a new one. The atoms that the comprise the person are never transported, the only thing transported is the 'code'. So yeah. It is scary as f**k. :)

@cgi2002

4 жыл бұрын

Star trek transporter tech is massively underused from a security/military point of view. Cloning is a nice use but just think about how to use it for security. Intruders aboard, beam them off the ship or into the brig. Need to disable an enemy ship, beam the crew off the ship or weapons aboard. Hell thinking about it properly, it's also a perfect medical device. Got a tumour, beam it out or just don't bring it with you. Infected by borg nanoprobes, beam yourself away, don't transport them. Loose an arm/suffer a bad injury on an away mission, use a backup of your last transporter journey to reset to an earlier state (you may loose some memory this way). But then star trek is occasionally dumb with its tech logic. Entirepises transporters are down, ok, it has a half dozen shuttles each with a transporter aboard, use them. Same with comms or sensors.

@musicalhistory4392

4 жыл бұрын

It's brought up in a few episodes of TNG that there are 7 transport buffers and you can apparently keep those to be alive 100 years, it would make sense that they can also be used for cloning. A few episodes of TOS/TAS address why they wouldn't be used to live eternally, but what is preventing people being cloned?

@dariusgreysun

4 жыл бұрын

Ever seem the movie "The Prestige"?

I love how they took the argument that Sisko should have been making, would have if he was Picard, and allow Dukat to make it before they can. Really adds a bit of nuance to his character - he's evil, but he's not stupid.

This was the moment I began to find Dukat interesting as a character. Before to me he was just kind of a self preening egotist, but this moment at 2:45 to me showed that Dukat was actually capable of big picture and rational thinking. And that the scenario he just stated was not all "Cardasia will not stand for this!" bluster but rather him going, "Yeah no, this situation is about to spiral beyond both our collective control and we need to do something about it now." To me it really helped flesh out his character and to show that beneath the stereotypical arrogant warlord bravado was actually a fairly keen analytical mind

@lionsjourney29

6 ай бұрын

That is why he is one of our most beloved Villains, the complex interplay between tin pot warlord, to a person that sees the issue with this situation and realizes cardassia wont farewell in such a war the last one was bad enough and the incident proved starfleet was even stronger now and that if they wanted to they could one shot their ships shields or no shields. He is all over the board, charismatic as hell. He was such great character portrayed by a legendary actor

@danieldickson8591

5 ай бұрын

Dukat was a complex man with a number of admirable qualities, but one fatal flaw -- his enormous ego. He lost all he had and all he was in pursuit of the glory he thought he deserved.

I love scenes where the plot allows Dukat to smart and perceptive.

Ok, i cant exactly blame Dukat here. It sounds very far fetched and a convenient excuse to let a state of the art, cloaked warship run rampant across Cardassian territory.

@Siyko

2 жыл бұрын

Dukat, like all Cardassians, never says outright what he's thinking. He tells Commander what Central Command will assume. I love the way they speak, it's so noncommital yet forceful and intimidating

@develynseether4426

Жыл бұрын

Shows the paranoia whilst not as bad as Romulans is still up there along with the arrogance though. Like Starfleet would 'let' the Maquis have the, at this point, only Defiant class warship in the quadrant.

@SiXiam

Жыл бұрын

@@develynseether4426 Not really paranoia when the same thing happened with a rogue Nebula class ship in TNG.

@Archedgar

Жыл бұрын

@@develynseether4426 Is it really paranoia & arrogance though? federation officers handed over a federation warship to federation citizens, specifically the ones involved in guerrilla warfare against the cardassians. Conveniently, they 'accidentally' handed over the one & only fed ship with a cloak. Perfect for guerrilla tactics. Bruh. That's one coincidence too many. I'd call BS on their story too if I were the cardassians.

@tedtedstone1231

11 ай бұрын

@@develynseether4426 Section 31, is my response.

I love how Dukat and Sisco forecast the whole potential fallout from this one event and both come to the same conclusion.

Gul Dukat doesn't want to be involved in any war he's not sure his side can win. That's why he's so reluctant to avoid war here, but was so willing to join the Dominion in their crusade against the Alpha Quadrant.

@pflaffik

2 жыл бұрын

As the villain he needed to make bad choices to stay a good villain, so him plotting with the Dominion was inevitable.

@danielk5780

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, Cardassia basically lost a war against the Klingons in a later season. If they were provoking a war against the Federation that would've been avoidable, the Klingons would've very likely supported the Federation if it was even in need of support. And against two AQ-superpowers, the Romulans would've kept to themselves very likely, so the Cardassians would be up against two powers while they couldn't even stand against one of them alone. Politically, they were between a rock and a very hard place.

@floppydisksareop

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, Cardassia did just end a war with the Federation that lasted for like 20 years. Neither are in a position to fight, especially with Cardassia dealing with internal conflict, and the Federation still recovering from the Borg attack, however there is so much bad blood and the peace is so precarious, that the slightest wrong move could result in a war that would probably not go anywhere new in the following 20 years, while weakening them both to an outside invasion - let's say something like the Klingons, Romulans, or even the Breen or Tholians picking off a good chunk from one side - not to mention the looming threat of the Dominion over their heads. Neither side could go to war, but both of them could be forced to really easily.

@oldtwinsna8347

8 ай бұрын

Dukat was an opportunist who knew how to bide his time. He knew this situation wasn't the right moment for conflict. He didn't want to this to escalate because it would not help him advance to gain more influence.

For my money, Dukat was one of the best Star Trek characters ever. Not just best villains. I could watch him all day.

no, we're telling you the Defiant is drifting out in space. what do you think?

0:51 Dukat was about to spit out his drink lol

The beginning of this episode is an all-time great. When Riker takes off his disguise beard to reveal his evil beard, I tell ya, it changed me.

What I love about this scene, is that despite what Dukat says about the Defiant later on, this was genuine fear, he knows that she's powerful.

@Jarvis466

10 ай бұрын

Tough little ship.

@Bucky1836

8 ай бұрын

​@@Jarvis466"little?"

@bthsr7113

7 ай бұрын

​@@Bucky1836relatively speaking compared to the beautiful but bloated whales of the Galaxy class

Everyone's a gangster until the Marquis steal the Defiant...

@vertigo2894

7 ай бұрын

Lol

Marc Alamo was brilliant in the role of Dukat as well as the other Cardassian he played in TNG. Outstanding actor.

I always wanted Dukat to do a literal spit take here just *PPFFFFFFSSSSHHFHFHFFFFT* WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???

@AllknowingUnknown

3 жыл бұрын

Lol kanar blasting outta his nose lmfao

@andrewdavis623

2 жыл бұрын

I like thinking about how they are sheepishly dancing around like a child trying to tell his parents something that is really bad.

Dukat was really having issues with pouring that kanar.

"You're in no position to negotiate." Sisko spends the rest of the episode negotiating.

Odo and Sisko knew to let Dukat make himself comfortable in his seat, break out the bottle of canaar, Before they drop this doozy of a situation in his lap! XD exemplary writing! The acting from all concerned is 11/10!

These clips are excellent. Thank you for posting!

Listen to the music. When Dukat talks they notes get deeper when Sisko talks they go up a pitch. As the music invokes your hatred for the Cardassian and the uplifting Federation? The music tries to dictate the hero or villain but was Dukat _really_ , a villain? Or is he a loyal Cardassian?

@jsnrvst

2 жыл бұрын

Dukat was a villain. Sure, he had complexities to his character that made him feel more relatable than some other villains in Star Trek history. Gul Dukat oversaw the occupation of Bajor for many, many years. He still views them as an inferior race. He is pragmatic, and doesn't antagonize the Federation or the Bajorans unnecessarily when there's nothing to gain from it, but when an opportunity presents itself to retake Terok Nor, he takes it. In this particular scene, he knows there's nothing to gain by going to war with the Federation. The Cardassians and the Federation are too evenly matched. A lot of people would die and neither he personally nor Cardassia will profit. When he gets the Dominion on his side, and they offer him rulership over Cardassia, he changes his tune. Dukat is a savvy politician, he knows how to use leverage to get what he wants. Dukat, however, cares a lot about his image. He is a bit of a narcissist. He sees himself as a magnanimous despot. He believes the occupation was worse before he came in charge, and he believes that makes him a good man. He desperately wants Sisko and Kira to see him that way, and goes to great lengths to try to convince them, and for a time that kind of looks like a path to redemption. He is further humanized by his love for his half-bajoran daughter, Ziyal. None of which really makes up for his crimes. He ends up selling out his planet and the entire Alpha Quadrant to the Dominion because that will let him become the ruler of Cardassia, and let him retake Terok Nor. The failure of his plan along with the death of his daughter drives him to insanity, and he finally shows his true colors in the episode Waltz. And he makes a further alliance with the pah-wraiths in a bid to destroy Sisko and all the Bajorans. Is Dukat a loyal Cardassian? Eh. It depends how you define loyalty. Dukat certainly seems like a patriot most of the time, but patriotism takes many different forms. There's an argument to be made for dissidence in the face of tyranny and injustice. In the episode Second Skin, we are introduced to Legate Ghemor, an influencial cardassian politician and reformist who believes the Central Command and the Obsidian Order had to much power over Cardassia, and favored democracy and due process. Of course, some would call him a traitor, but opposing the government, especially a military junta with secret police, isn't the same as opposing the people/nation/planet. Ghemor is loyal to the Cardassia that ought to be. In a way, that makes him a patriot too, some might say more of a patriot than Dukat. TL;DR Dukat might have been a patriot, and a complex, layered character, but he was also a fascist, a racist, a narcissist and an opportunist. He definitely is a villain in the arc of the show, but he's not always the antagonist in specific episodes. Patriotism should never get in the way of your conscience.

@regalecusglesne3022

2 жыл бұрын

@@jsnrvst what is a fascist to you?

@jsnrvst

2 жыл бұрын

@Regalecus glesne A fascist is an authoritarian who believes (or pretends to believe) that there is an "us" (that includes the fascist) better than a "them", but that this "them" is taking up space, resources and power that rightfully belongs to the "us", and that "they" must be stopped, usually with force. This, by the way, should not be confused with the struggle of marginalized classes. The "us" in question is one that has historically had more than it's share of power, what it fears is having to share it with "them". Facts don't matter to fascists. It is an ideology driven by fear and hate. The "us" can be defined in many ways, but historically in America it has primarily involved straight white men born in the United States, but it can include others as long as they toe the line and support the US in a few issues. White women are in if they agree there's too much immigration. Latinxs are in if they oppose abortion and support traditional gender roles. Fascists are also hypocrites. They will call for free speech when they are banned from Twitter or get a speaking event cancelled, but they have no qualms about silencing climate scientists, bullying women off their platforms or arbitrarily censoring users on their social media platform who would criticize them. Fascists don't believe in free speech, but they will use YOUR belief in free speech to advance their cause. They don't believe in LGBT rights, but they will use your beliefs in LGBT rights to get you on board hating on muslims. They don't believe in helping the poor, but they will tell you the reason they can't help the poor is because there are too many immigrants stealing their jobs. Whatever gets the job done. As for Gul Dukat, he is a fascist because he is 1) an authoritarian who 2) believes Cardassians are superior to other races, specifically Bajorans. Is that not enough? The entire Cardassian Union is fascist. It is ruled by a military junta and propped by secret police. They have screens everywhere constantly spreading propaganda. The justice system is a joke, has no concept of due process. You are always guilty and sentenced before the trial even begins.

@alaron5698

2 жыл бұрын

@@jsnrvst "white women are in if they agree there's too much immigration. Latinxs are in if they oppose abortion and support traditional gender roles". Wanting less immigration and being opposed to abortion is apparently enough to be a "facist" nowadays. Really, one can sum up your views as follows: "Anyone that disagrees with me politically is a facist".

Here goes another DS9 Netflix binge watch session my weekend is gone

Would you ever show the clips of this episode where Dukat is asking about the un-registered Cardassian ships, etc, due to them not being attached to the military? It's a nice moment for him, because he's being on the level for a rare time.

Cardassians put so much care into the liquor pour. That's some dedication

@bobdole807

5 ай бұрын

Kanaar was really just corn syrup. It's so thick it doesn't want to come out of the bottle.

It's like the Cuban missile crisis all over again.

@rascallyrabbit717

4 жыл бұрын

Hunt for Red October

@cormacmacsuibhne2867

4 жыл бұрын

@@rascallyrabbit717 classic. Also good comparison.

I looove Dukat. He is most concerned by the prospect of a war because he doesn't want to squander Cardassia's remaining strength. A true patriot.

@Exodianecross1978

4 жыл бұрын

The events of this episode take place before the klingon invasion, when the Cardassians still had their full strength and were ruled by Central Command!

@laurentdrozin812

4 жыл бұрын

That is correct, but if you look at the previous episodes, the character Dukat is obviously concerned by the loss of strength of the Cardassian Union, and doesn't wish a war with the Federation for that reason. I like the way the character is out together. A lot of depth. I m less satisfied by the way the writers chose to end him, but nothing is perfect.

@Exodianecross1978

4 жыл бұрын

@@laurentdrozin812 Right. To portray him as a "Pah Wraith Jim Jones" was unfortunate.

@doublestrokeroll

4 жыл бұрын

@@Exodianecross1978 I disagree. It represented an egotistical narcissistic nazi desperate for any chance to cling to power. It was pure desperation at a time when he had lost everything. For me it was much more interesting than having him simply die in a battle or kill himself.

@Exodianecross1978

4 жыл бұрын

@@doublestrokeroll I respect your opinion. I was just disappointed because Dukat startet as a one-dimensional villain, during Season 2 and 3 he developed into a three-dimensional character with a family and that he wanted to prevent a war after Thomas Riker stole the Defiant! I also admit that I hoped it would turn out that the Dukat bringing Cardassia on the side of the Dominion was a Changeling!

0:52 When you realize you've been ignoring what's on the exam.

this scene is 10x better than anything in Picard better acted, character driven and using old continuity to expand the story..and Sisko's main objective is to disable and not destroy. Comparing that to the bodybag count in STP

@gandalfshakur8235

4 жыл бұрын

Can't stand Picard, all the young actors are terrible, poorly drawn on paper and screen. The entire production has no soul other than episode 7 in season 1.

@shalomamigos

3 жыл бұрын

@@gandalfshakur8235 I liked Episode 6, because things were actually happening.

I love how Dukat was listening to Odo's explanation of Thomas Riker's origins. He was probably thinking to himself "Friggin' Starfleet and their science shenanigans. You don't see us Cardassians doing this, because WE know when to leave well enough alone. I need this drink..."

I love how everyone glossed over the whole "hey this is how your find/disable/destroy the Defiant" when they joined the Dominion...

Dukat is an incredible character, they could’ve done anything with him, an anti hero, an anti villain, a villain turned hero or the single most monstrous character in the entire franchise. He was never gonna be a pure good guy (let’s face it neither is sisko by a long shot)

We all know that Sisko's story about transporter duplicates is true. There is no doubt about that. However, Dukat was totally right here - nobody in their right minds would ever believe such an crazy story about something that has never happened before.

@MrDibara

4 ай бұрын

And I love how he says "the Central Command won't believe". It shows that (for as absurd as the story is) _he_ is at least willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, but he is *fully aware* that his military goverment will not buy it at all.

@miroslavtomic7038

4 ай бұрын

@@MrDibara Exactly.

@miroslavtomic7038

4 ай бұрын

@@MrDibara I think he was willing to accept Sisko's story out of the highely reluctant respect that he had for Sisko. Even when he joined Dominion and they became enemies, Dukat still kept showing reluctant respect for Sisko.

@miroslavtomic7038

4 ай бұрын

@@MrDibara Plus, he realized that only an complete idiot would invent such an crazy story in such dangerous situation and risk an all out war.

One of the best episodes in ds9. Dukat and sisko was amazing here

I’m sure you would . But You are in no position to bargain !!! Wow talk about being opportunistic . Love Dukat

Damn. There is a lot of times that Dukat can be a great ally...

Every Cardassian was brilliantly cast. Not a bum in the lot.

holy chalupa I believe an episode unseen has been found what a lovely day stay safe and be kind Mar23,20

@Locutus

3 жыл бұрын

How can it be unseen???

You know Sisko's serious when he folds his arms twice

0:06 - I love how people who'd NEVER seen TNG would be REALLY fucking confused by this lol

This is one of the episodes that shows that gul dukat was acualy one with a clear vision on what would happen , and war is something you want to avoid . That was before that whole loss of his daughter and family occured .

3:43 For emphasis, Sisko has been known to uncross and re-cross his arms during tense conversations.

@AdeptPaladin

2 жыл бұрын

I just caught how he went from crossed arms, to uncrossed and crossing them :D

can u upload scene where sisko is at central commend watching the defiant and helping the cardassians trying to stop it

@April-dv2pb

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I can.

@Locutus

3 жыл бұрын

It's already online.

@randomrazr

3 жыл бұрын

@@Locutus u

Gul Dukat is my favorite villain

Odo, you are missed.

I'm sure Dukat's eago was hurting when he said the Defiant was one of the most heavily armed warships in the quadrant

@hobanagerik

4 жыл бұрын

Probably not, just resigned acceptance to the ramifications of it.

@rharris4736

3 жыл бұрын

That comes through in the way he takes the opportunity to skewer Starfleet's "we don't build warships" rhetoric by flatly calling it such.

When Dukat's day drinking gets ruined.

This is good writing and good acting. A great example of Deep Space 9 at its best.

I always found it kind of funny in DS9 when the Cardassians made any threats, given that a Nebula-class with it's shields down still took out a Galor-class warship in TNG. So in this instance, worrying about Cardassian and Starfleet fleets coming to blows, there really is only going to be one winner. Especially when Starfleet is starting to field ships like the Defiant-class, and not a million miles away from things like Akiras being ready to roll off the line. Marc Alaimo was awesome as Dukat. Probably one of my favourite Star Trek characters!

@matthewbarabas3052

4 ай бұрын

Cardassia was lucky that the Federation had other concerns on their mind when they attacked the first time. they absolutely could have destroyed the cardassian military.

I like that little extra bit of lore they added, putting Sisko in charge of the Defiant's development. A ship intended to fight and defeat The Borg. Where else would a man like Sisko be after Wolf 359? And no wonder the Defiant was his baby. The only thing I was confused about was why name her "Defiant"?

@r0bw00d

4 жыл бұрын

Pure speculation, but, given the circumstances of its creation, it was probably named that because the Federation was defying the Borg. "We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." "FUCK YOU!"

@k1productions87

4 жыл бұрын

@Emperor Ssraeshza They didn't even want DS9 to have a ship at all. Or this may have been Rick Berman's wish, for it was felt that Voyager should be the only hero ship while Sisko remains on his mission to "go no bloody place". But I don't think Berman understood DS9 at all anyway.

@rharris4736

3 жыл бұрын

And they likely kept the name because it was a show of Defiance in the face of another stronger enemy (the Dominion).

@bobpage6597

2 жыл бұрын

As I recall, the creators wanted to be able to expand a bit more on DS9, occasionally have them going somewhere. But the idea of going around in Runabouts everywhere seemed too flimsy, especially with the advent of the Dominion, so they decided to do something never done before - introduce a Starfleet ship that had the sole purpose of kicking ass. Thus the Defiant was born - the first dedicated Starfleet warship for Star Trek!!

@k1productions87

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobpage6597 The studio and even Rick Berman had fought against it. They wanted all the starship focus to be on their new baby Voyager, and felt the dumb television audience would be confused by different hero ships, especially if they used the original intended name, Valiant. Fortunately, Ira Steven Behr and Ronald D. Moore were smarter

0:51 When the rare item you've been trying to get for months finally drops in the one Raid you missed.

@hobomike6935

2 жыл бұрын

my reaction to reading this comment 0:37

I'm guessing Sisko had some friends in high places because a rebel organization stealing a cutting edge federation warship under everyone's nose would most likely lead to some 'resignations' One plus from this is that it showcased Dukat as someone who was aware of the politics and ramifications of situations like this, even when angry he was willing to ally with Sisko knowing how dire consequences will be.

@technicholy1299

2 жыл бұрын

I always wondered why no one figured out the security breach with Will Riker. How did the Defiant not know about Thomas, but the Ghandi did? Did the Ghandi just think Will Riker was serving as a lieutenant?

@jonathancampbell5231

2 жыл бұрын

The Ghandi knew who he was because it wasn't a secret. The Enterprise explained what happened to Starfleet Command and they allowed Thomas to serve on another ship. When Thomas arrived on DS9 and stole the Defiant he was posing as Will. Nobody knew he was Thomas because he was basically in disguise.

@GA-wq8xq

2 жыл бұрын

You would think, but then US military leaders haven’t resigned over the Afghanistan disaster

Marc Alaimo was so good as Dukat.

Fantastic acting on display here

Marc Alaimo steals every scene with brilliant acting

Painting Dukat as a villain here simplifies the issue grossly. You have to consider what culture he comes from and under what influence he was raised. For a Cardassian of his time and of that culture at the time, he can justifiably called a fair and mild man when held to Cardassian standards. It is only later, when he utterly broke, thanks to a combination of grief and Sisko-patented gaslighting, that Dukat became actually irredeemably evil. But this was way before that. Making Dukat out to be some kind of Hitler is just simplifying the issue with a knockout argument.

@bongoseropersa5240

3 жыл бұрын

This ☝🏽

The ship knew it wasn't Will. It was just being Defiant.

@MrDibara

4 ай бұрын

Take your like and get outta here! 🤣👍

3m40s "I know her vunerablilties AND her weaknesses" ...uh, those are the same thing Sisko

@ScoutPL

4 жыл бұрын

I'm vulnerable to dark-eyed babes. I'm weak in defending from a jab hook combination. Those are different.

@irishemperor

4 жыл бұрын

I have a weakness for dark-eyed babes. I'm vulnerable when defending from a jab hook combination. Those are the same; you just have to shuffle the grammar.

Dukat is one of the best villains in ST history. The Cardassians in general were a well designed enemy, loved their legal system too. I wonder why ST failed to create good Romulan characters, someone really bureaucratic but still a Romulan warrior, with the Cardassians they brought us both Garak and Dukat but no great Romulan, why?

@Archedgar

2 жыл бұрын

Senator Vreenak though...... but I guess that's a one-off. Yeah, you're right. The Romulans never really had a chance to shine.

@attiepollard7847

2 жыл бұрын

@@Archedgar maybe because the romulans are still embarrassed after their ass kicking at the Battle of Cheron in the romulan Earth war. Plus Romulus store empire or like the North Koreans they are very secretive and isolationist. Why the hell do they want to have good relations with the federation when it doesn't benefit them.

@Archedgar

2 жыл бұрын

@@attiepollard7847 That's a really horrible equivocation though. The Romulans are on par or superior to the Federation in strength and their empire is vast. N. Korea is a socialist shithole that struggles to keep from starving to death and making sure the nation will have electricity next month. That's either insanely generous to the socialists or grossly insulting to the Romulans.

@AEsir2023

7 ай бұрын

I’d agree although that may stem from the fact I always thought the federation was more compatible with the Romulans than the Klingons (was I the only one?) they almost added a few romulan characters there was the officer attache that was introduced when the defiant was given to ds9. There was the romulan prisoner of war in the dominion prison and more but they didn’t go anywhere with them

And that, my friends, is why just your logon shouldn't be enough to access sensitive material. Federation security sucks.

@hobomike6935

3 жыл бұрын

If the federation and starfleet actually shaped up their internal security and end-goal war conduct, they would be terrifying. They have some of the best tech minds in the galaxy. No alpha quadrant power would stand against them. Even the dominion would probably be afraid to try and take them over because they're acquainted with so many powerful aliens (the Q, the Prophets, the Dowud, the Organians, and so on) But that would make them more akin to section 31, that tried bio weapons to entirely wipe out an enemy species.. The federation is the space hippies of the alpha quadrant basically XD

@IRMentat

2 жыл бұрын

@@hobomike6935 far worse than hippies. A Utopian commune happy to preach at, disarm and convert all they can despite a universe of threats and disasters waiting around every new gravity well. Where there should be Dyson spheres/swarms (artificial stations getting energy from the sun), O’Neill cylinders (giant rotating habitats), orbital rings/elevators and thousands of ships we see arboreal planets, space devoid of advancements and shipyards that kick out scientific marvels at a stunningly low rate. They may have hit a low population (eugenics war) and have access to space magic but their actions are those of a suicide based religious commune or lovecraftian cult, taunt and retreat until your competitors are both annoyed and flush with resources THEN screw up the diplomacy so you end up in a desperate war of survival, repeat as needed relying on Deus ex machina from 1-2 standout crews with divine providence to survive, smash your bow enemies ambitions and back to the taunting.

@hobomike6935

2 жыл бұрын

@@IRMentat united desperation of planets

@oldtwinsna8347

8 ай бұрын

Nobody should've been allowed entry onto the Defiant unless they were specifically cleared by Sisko. The vessel is a special purpose ship for a sole specific duty - to give a whooping to foreign powers. That makes it off limits to anyone, even admirals, unless they are cleared by the commanding officer; no delegates allowed to make that decision.

I wish shows nowadays took the approach of wrapping up story arcs in 1 to 2 episodes rather than the season long narratives

@matthewbarabas3052

4 ай бұрын

it really varies on the arc.

I like this version of Dukat very much. I call him Sane Dukat. He is a career officer, a quick tinker and a pure professional who wants what's best for the Cardassian Empire. In this episode, that is keeping the peace with the Federation and not escalating the conflict. He works together with Starfleet Officers, former enemies to get it done. This will change later on and also make for an interesting character development. One of the best characters in all of Star Trek.

Dukat is a awesome villain.

When producers were creating Cardassians as new enemies for Federation and Starfleet, they had huge problem how to make them look different than all other races seen before. The problem was solved when Marc Alamo came to audition for various alien roles on TNG. Alamo has a very long neck in real life and when producers saw that they came up with idea of all Cardassians having long necks and having ridges on them. Naturally, Alamo was the very first actor who was cast in role of than still unnamed Cardassian leader, later to be named Gul Dukat.

Dukat- "This is a...very entertaining story. But what does this have to do with Cardassia?" Sisko- "Thomas Riker is a member of the Marquis." Dukat- "Bitch what?!?"

@CommanderM117

2 жыл бұрын

and the Defiant is capable of wrecking a Planet or Warship it might be tiny but it hits like a tank

DS9 had some really great acting

Maybe the best sci-fi show of all time

Quite a few Hunt for Red October references here.

There were two episodes of Voyager where the ship and entire crew were duplicated. I wonder how the Borg felt about that?

Sisko Vs Dukat ! Mark Alamo as Dukat was fantastic. Thanks to netflix ( and promoting by vids on KZread). am enjoying all over again

Could you upload the scenes from "Visionary" and "Trials and Tribble-ations" where O'Brien is dodging chairs LIKE A BOSS?

0:37 dukat: this is a very entertaining story. but why am I listening to it? sisko: *leans in* because the writers needed you in the second half of the scene, and also needed to give us a reason to deliver exposition about thomas riker, so they killed Two birds, with One stone. dukat: and just What. is a bird?

The thing that sends chills down my spin is that, what Dukat is describing to Sisko about "What Central Command will do" and aboyt "What Starfleet would do" is basically the Cuban Missile Crisis in space.

This scene rings differently now.

Avery Brooks and Marc Alaimo just killed it, every single time they were on screen together. I hope they don't hate each other in real life lol.

I love the amount of times that DS9 and TNG crossed paths........starting with Worf and O'Brien 💯💯💯

once again, it's up to Dukat to clean up the Federation's mess.

"We have reason to believe that Thomas Riker is a member of the Maquis." And NOW Dukat is paying attention.

Don't choke on that drink Dukat

Nice glass bong.

Only it was Weyoun who actually got to see the Defiant destroyed.

I know that this is a tense scene with great acting, but did anybody catch how they named a warship Gandhi?

Ah! This was a metal gear plot!