My main take away from this video was that you play beautifully and both guitars are wonderful.

@UrosGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I like cedar, but spruce have a beauty punch, and bright that cedar hides. But both guitar are awesome.

They're both lovely guitars. I play cedar, I like the rounded tones, but the spruce here is bright and beautiful. Your playing is so lovely. I could listen all day.

To my ears the spruce vs cedar top follows the old rule of thumb: the spruce is brighter, punchier, more focused. The cedar is darker, rounder, more diffuse (but not in a negative sense). The spruce favors the Bach and other highly contrapuntal works. The cedar, with its warmer color, is perfect for the Spanish romantic repertoire. However, these differences are not huge and either instrument is, in my opinion, perfectly suitable for any repertoire. My favorite? The spruce on MWF and the cedar on TTS. For Sundays, it's a toss-up. :-) Very beautiful, musical playing as always. The technique makes the guitar and not the other way around

@bluesmau69

6 жыл бұрын

even if...i prefer the cedar ones. for the rest...i agree with you....anyway both are marvellous :)

@leoyu2142

5 жыл бұрын

I also think, could there be another type of wood suitable for tops?

@joseyang5098

5 жыл бұрын

@@bluesmau69 : me too.. i really prefer the cedar's warmer tone.. it's more "vibrating".....

@joseyang5098

5 жыл бұрын

George: the difference is not much, because both are Michele della Giustina's guitars, which are already very high end vintage guitar (though i would really prefer Ramirez's ones).. however, for beginner and intermediate players, i think this video may also help them to choose which type/kind of guitar they want to continue with.. I would really say, don't waste money on spruce ones for beginner and intermediate guitars.. a solid top cedar guitar nowadays always comes with higher quality woods for other parts of a guitar.. the overall playing experience is totally different.. a cedar one would make people more pleasant to continue to play..

@jamesoncade1229

2 жыл бұрын

i realize I'm quite randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to watch newly released series online?

I love both, imho spruce (crisp sound) for recording, cider (warm sound) for live show. Thank you for the video and playing for us, I really enjoyed it.

Prav lepa hvala Uroš ! Lepo in zanimivo !

Loved the arrangement. Thanks also for putting the your recording information on the video. I've been thinking of getting an H6, but couldn't find any classical guitar examples.

love the way you play

Thanks for the lovely playing, I'd like them both.

Cedar brings out the beauty of your playing

Love that spruce sound

beautiful! you play both as extentions of your soul... very captivating..thnx 4 sharing

I started playing on spruce top, and really like the instant response and the fact I didn't have to control my right hand that much. However, I own a cedar now, and start to appreciate the deeper, warmer and a bit more nuanced sound. Good vid.

both sound outstanding great playing lucky students

Cedar top forever!!! Love my cedar top guitar.

The sound of Cedar is so beautiful ❤

Good playing, enjoyed listening to both guitars.

The different scales are going to contribute a big difference in the sound as well the wood choice. The spruce is a 630mm and the double-top cedar is a full size 650mm scale. That said I prefer the cedar in this demonstration, but both sound amazing due to the playing of a masterful teacher.

Brilliant playing

Great video, great playing, beautiful sound. I'll have to go with the spruce guitar. That's the kind of tone I'd like to have one day. Keep it up!

I enjoyed the spruce bass tones and liked the cedar treble strings for the clarity. I only I could have both. Very subjective and much enjoyed with headphones.

The spruce one has such a sweet tone, love your playing! I had to comment before I am even 30s in because it's so good 😀

The spruce sounded way better to me: clean and precise... The cedar has also its own advantage: warm and fuller sound, but I think with the cedar basses are a little bit blurry and it becomes much more difficult to emphasise the bass lines when one wants to do so. Both are much better than my own instrument anyway... So, enjoy playing them :)

your playing - WOW!

Both of the guitars sound great. I guess it is just a personal preference and the mood one wants to create. I own a spruce top classical guitar because I like the clarity and the crisp sound of spruce. I am looking at cedar tops right now since certain compositions lend themselves, in my personal opinion, to the more warm sounds of a cedar top guitar. Thank you for this video and looking forward to the next one. Take care. William

I love the spruce

i think the major difference was the scale size, what changes completely the "personality" of the string. i have a spruce top guitar and a cedar one, and this video was completely accurate!

Both sound amazing but for most of your song choices I like the warmth of the cedar above the spruce. Thanks!

I can appreciate the good qualities in both :-) I need a cedar guitar to go with my Spruce :)

Michelle is a great luthier and super kind person. I visited him at his shop when I lived in Italy. Had the privilege of watching him work while playing his guitars. I wish I bought one before moving away.

@UrosGuitar

Жыл бұрын

He's great! Thank you for commenting!

@precisionmediamarketing6950

Жыл бұрын

@@UrosGuitar I meant to also say, great playing and thank you for the doing the comparison.

I like spruce for now. but may be cedar when I grow old

This was worth watching just to listen to you play man. I wish I was lucky enough to be your student! I am surprised to learn about double and triple top classical guitars because it seems laminated tops are generally frowned upon and considered cheap when it comes to steel string acoustic guitars. Both guitars sound lovely in your hands! Thank you for the video!

I know it's supposed to be about the guitars, but wow, I loved that second song. Never heard it before. Need to check out that Ponce guy.

I personally prefer the Cedar double top model. Though, this is no surprise to anyone. I have long loved the warmth provided by Cedar toped guitars.

Definitely one of the better comparison videos and the player is a pro so it is just the sound of the guitars we are hearing that is different. I have always been a cedar man but the spruce just had a bit more definition and the trebles were really sweet. The cedar was nice too but the bass was just a bit less defined. As far as the back and sides, well, I have known a couple of great builders and they would challenge anyone to tell the difference based on back and sides as long as they are solid wood with the possible exception of maple which should only be on a flamenco guitar or electric really. I'm going to have to go out and buy a spruce top guitar now...

Beautiful playing. Both guitars sound beautiful. Though there doesn't seem to be any point to the comparison. Double top of cedar/spruce vs solid spruce top. Different back and sides. Different scale length. One is a few weeks old, while the other is 15+ years old.

Super primerjava, hvala.

Personal preferences and matter of taste, I enjoyed both of the recordings, your playing is simply beautiful... If I had one to pick, I'd go for cedar.

spruce wins but in 1 year when lower deck will resonate it's 100%... you taught me a lesson how to get what i want in sound of flute in guitar. it was the best lesson without a student

Maestro, where can I find the music score of the piece you are playing “both sides now”? I loved the sound of the spruce guitar.

Yes, Spruce is slightly sharper tone, but both are wonderful sounding as are the musical arrangements, thank you

Thank you so much !

Wonderful playing. I have both myself. I started out on a cedar top and switched to spruce top. Currently I prefer spruce but in the future I might go back to cedar as the sound I am chasing is ever evolving. I am curious about double tops that have both cedar/spruce and if the sound has characteristics of both woods.

what a lovely vid :D The play is really marvellous you can't comment on that !! congrats !! I'm closer to spruce I think ...

you are also a wonderful player

I love Spruce over Cedar, although I do play both and appreciate they both enjoy their place. I always also appreciate your very fine playing. Amazing.

@UrosGuitar

11 ай бұрын

Thank you, Nigel!

My favourite is the solid spruce top,I'm not a fan of double tops,I think one solid top sounds better than 3 tops glued together and that is exactly what a double top is,your playing is beautiful.

Through a mobile phone speaker I think I prefer the spruce for most of the repertoire presented (the last piece, and perhaps the Bach fugue were much better on the cedar). Keen to listen again with my monitors. I'd be very interested to see the bracing pattern of the spruce guitar, as it seemed to be louder than the double top!

Cedar top is awesome for guitar sound

Thank you, yet again for such informative video with great playing as well. If anyone is thinking of getting a Spruce or Cedar top guitar, please, don't make the mistake I have made years ago. DO go to the shop or where ever the guitar is and listen to its sound. There is no right or wrong as regards to which top the guitar is made of. But you can waste your time and money by getting a guitar of which the sound you don't like. Please please please, listen to the sounds of the guitar before you invest your hard earned cash. The spruce top sounds a little more masculine whereas the cedar is more gentle. Each produces wonderful sounds and as demonstrated here, they seem to sound better with a certain type of music. So, for personal choice, I may go for the Spruce.

@UrosGuitar

6 жыл бұрын

Great advice, thanks!

@luffyhegalong7915

5 жыл бұрын

If you are buying online, this video nails it and no BS or biased opinion are included. This is one of the best reviews that Ive ever watched. Thanks

The spruce has a very well balanced, elegant sound. It will liven up with more playing, however as I too own a cedar double top, I prefer the big, juicy cello sound of cedar. Lovely playing, as always.

@UrosGuitar

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Harvey!

@skakdosmer

5 жыл бұрын

If you want the sound of a cello, get a cello! I'm a cellist, and these both sound like guitars to me. Not better or worse than a cello, just very different.

i don't care what anyone says, that double top is something special. The spruce sounds how you'd expect spruce to sound but also very young compared to the other one, which you have also had more time to become aquainted to,.

both are fantastic guitars, but there is a magical mellow sound of the cedar top that i like. it is just an opinion and opinions are common as the wind changes direction.

Cedar brazilian rosewood is from another World ❣️🎶

I enjoyed your play! Actually, it is my favorite song, both side now. Could you please let me know who's arrangement is it? Thanks.

I have Miguel Almeira all solid classical guitar, 26 years old guitar and it sounds beautiful, spruce on top. But i prefer my cheaper cedar guitar for classical and romantic pop.

Gostei mais do spruce. Grande Urus,gosto muito do som que tira do violão,muito bem.

I usually prefer the sound of spruce top guitars, however in this case, My preference went for the cedar top. However there are other variables to consider - the cedar top having Brazilian back and sides and being older it would have been more played it. They are both unquestionable beautiful sounding guitars especially when played by someone as talented as Uros.

The cedar double top has more carry and a richer overtone package, hence the "warmer" sound. The spruce has a more "direct" , hence the brighter sound both because the tone wood is spruce but also because of the influence of the walnut back and sides

@RobinhoGabriel1

6 жыл бұрын

George Oberlander would you say then, that the spruce is better suited for Flamenco style playing? I look forward to your reply.

@Morten_Nielsen1979

6 жыл бұрын

The_Angel Gabriel There are better wood choices for a Flamenco guitar. Investigate.

Both sound wonderful, but to my headphone ears the double top is confused in sound. It's not sure if it's spruce, or cedar, something in between. So when I'm listening for specific details in your passages, the double top looses something in the definition. The new guitar with walnut is surprising to me as I've never considered walnut in this context. The sound from this guitar should be something when it opens up after a few years, as it has the sound to start with. Between the two - in a blind test it could give the double top a run for the money. The spruce top just sings and is balanced with the walnut. Great projection, and the presence from it lets you know it. The double top is a bit shy by comparison. Just my opinion.

@UrosGuitar

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Great feedback!

Lovely arrangement of Both Sides. Do you think you might be able to share the score/tell me where you got it from? Doesn't seem to be either the Takeuchi or Abril one.

What are the strings you use on the spruce guitar please?

Love the Joni Mitchell song. What a song! I've looked at love from both sides now...Like the classical guitar version too. I have to say that the cedar wins it for me, although I do adore the pop and definition of the spruce top.

@UrosGuitar

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind input, Gordon!

Back and sides of Cedar - Rosewood Back and sides of Spruce - Walnut

@jothaman3555

3 жыл бұрын

Yea kinda makes the comparison irrelevant

I like the clarity of the spruce. Not quite a steel sound IMO. The cedar's sound seems a little coloured. The cedar works well for select pieces however. I've got a Le Patrie Concert model. Cedar top with mahogany back & sides. I'm gonna try the carbon strings to see if that livens things up.

Cedar is warm, soft while Spruce is brighter. and you're an amazing guitar player!!!

A very interesting comparison, but also a tribute to Michele in building these two fine guitars. It has always interested me in how the modern luthiers are "chasing" or searching for that sound. Personally I wonder about double or in you case - triple top as there is also balsa between the layers. Plus the glue be it hide or otherwise, now on two of the surfaces. How all this interacts at various frequencies? Back and sides made from laminate wood plus glue is typically relegated to 'lesser" guitars. So laminating a top, albeit with finer woods, and all solid? I would like to see further investigation of the 'tornavoz" which Torres used in his smaller bodied guitars to focus the sound. Mandolins would have a "Virzi" which would be a smaller sized top inside the body, complete with f holes and attached to the underside of the top at various points, but with a space between them. You could barely see the Virzi via the top f holes. Different ways to focus the sound. Combinations of methods to keep us all discussing and searching for the magic.

@davideleonardi9087

6 жыл бұрын

quigley 45-100

Dos grandes guitarras pero a mi parecer mejor sonoridad Michele Della Giustina 2001. Best cedar guitar !

Now, I'll be professional: Spruce gives a more precise tonal projection compared to cedar, but that doesn't mean one is better than the other. The spectrum of projection on a spruce guitar gives more crystalline, more resonant sounds with a lot of timbre that maintains the same tone of a cedar guitar for longer. Finally, spruce sounds differently in Bach's repertoire than, for example, cedar, which is rounded and wonderfully romantic. While cedar has a seductive intimacy with those basses and mid tones. Generally speaking, everything has its pros and cons. I played in the professor's class at the classical academy in Zagreb.

what is the first song called? I really liked it (specially the cedar version ;P)

Honestly cannot say one is objectively better than the other. Both sounded great. On the one hand the first piece is improved with the clearer note separation from the Spruce. And it would seem that at least technically the Spruce is superior but the Cedar when played right connects better with emotion. So I don't know I would call it a tie.

I always heard that spruce gets better and better over 10-20 years and that cedar is ready right now.... so if they are close in tone, the spruce may be a better choice ... Just a thought.

I'm a spruce guy all the way, so I do prefer the sound of the new guitar. The double top doesn't sound too bad, though. ;-)

Cedar top is perfect for classical guitars

Uros, you state you used a Zoom H5 to record the sound. How do you marry the sound and video? What program do you use? Thank you!

Gracias por el video, tengo una guitarra en cedro, ahora quiero tener otra en abeto . Ambas son buenas segun el tipo de musica ,efecto ,estilo y repertorio q se desee , ambas en su justo lugar y propósito. Gran guitarrista e interprete

@UrosGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Muchas gracias!

The spruce top was more lyrical and "personal". The Cedar/ balsa/spruce was more commanding .. impersonal. I would play the spruce top for my friends and myself. I would play the other for a large audience. Both guitars are excellent.

A premium spruce is always bright but not in this case. The spruce guitar/walnut back is only 2016 while the cedar is way older 2001 and was well made sandwich top and Brazilian rosewood back. This bring out the loudness and clarity of cedar. Unequal comparison?

El cedro es mi preferido ...

Spoilt for choice, just beautiful

Excellent player !

That double top is remarkable.

I prefer the new spruce top. Harmonics are clearer and notes decay nicely.

brilliant answers by some. Most acoustic guitars use sitka spruce for those quality many have mentioned...i am tempted by the cedar but i guess the spruce is a safer bet if u want a generic versatile guitar. I have a martin D16GT ( i like that sound more than a Taylor which i feel twanggy and bright). Now looking at a good classical - GC22 C or S??? PLEASE advise anyone? : )

@dietersdawgs

6 жыл бұрын

I'd recommend a spruce with either European spruce or Canadian Adirondack and rosewood or mahogany back and sides.......cedar is too murky and muddy

Your playing is beautiful. That being said, this is NOT a TRUE comparison, and I thank you for your honest disclosure, although the title is click bait. The "Cedar top", is laminated, (plywood), and not a "SOLID CEDAR TOP". The second fact is that the 2 tops are paired with different backs and sides. Rosewood, will never emulate Walnut. The densities of the wood are entirely different. And last but not least, the age, and amount of time spent playing each guitar, matters immensely, as does humidity, and other environmental conditions. The more the guitar is played, (and correctly taken care of), the tighter the wood becomes on a molecular level. Wood is a living thing. The more vibration it goes through from playing, the sweeter the sound, because the molecules are vibrated closer together. This is why a Stradivarius violin, (many now in humidity controlled museums) are worth so much money and the sweet sound it produces cannot be replicated even with modern technology. With guitars, even the amount of "scalloping" on the braces changes the sound of 2 similar models, to say nothing of the way they are braced, (Fan braced, "V" braced, etc.). Then, nuts, saddles, bridges, and their placement. I do appreciate that the body style was similar, and that both are "classical" guitars and from the same luthier. The nut width may vary, and intonation was adjusted for each. They both sound remarkable. But this is not, "Spruce vs, Cedar".

Sheesh my nigga you killed it in these recordings, GOOD JOB. I love the cedar.

Wow....Cedro Wins....!!!!!!!

Cedar = red wine, spruce = white wine?

@vs_830

5 жыл бұрын

spruce = sparkling wine, cedar - cognac

@LegsON

4 жыл бұрын

So cedar is way more detrimental to one's health?

@marek454

4 жыл бұрын

@@LegsON only fits well with totally different meals :)

I'm loving that Cedar sound all the way. I guess the spruce will get better after a few years. Both great guitars obviously. Great playing!

Cedar by far....what is the first song you played please ?? Thanks

I never hear string noise when you play, how do you prevent it? I love your playing!!

@user-pn2pw1rt9s

5 жыл бұрын

he has made a video about this, and you can check it out.

Surprisingly to me, I prefer the spruce.

If I could only have one guitar I would definitely buy cedar top. But if I could have more than one, I would have both in my collection.

Generally, the spruce would be louder than cedar if the cedar is not a double top. Can you make a comparison between solid top spruce and solid top cedar, so we can hear the true difference between the two. your playing is great.

Both sounds great. But the one with Ceder gives warmer and richer sound. For me as a steel guitar player, ceder is more like Gibson Super jumbo and spruce is like Taylor 814. I'm going to get one nylong, probably Ramirez. Thanks for this video and I'll get a guitar with ceder top.

And also the bracing will affect the sound and you didn't tell us, can you check if its a fan or lattice bracing. Thanks have a great day.

Cedar top is best for me

It is difficult to compare a new spruce top vs. a new cedar top. The spruce top needs some time to develop its whole sound potential in opposite to the cedar top.

Très beau test et un des plus objectifs. Il est difficile de trancher ; tout est beau... On devrait faire des violons en cèdre ! 🤔

The guitar "spruce" possesses a clearer tone and there an echo of the sound better held, But all this is difficult to appreciate on a video, even of quality