After seeing this video I bought all 4 pedals as well as a bass amp. Saying this changed my entire sound would be an understatement💯 It sounds so sick with drop tunings. Thinking about running a dirt pedal into the chain as well. I’m completely in love with my rig now, Props Evan🤘🏻

@aquaholik6789

3 жыл бұрын

Love it! Glad it helped your sound out!!

@tomterryguitarbass

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@GraffitiBlack

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Set everything up yesterday and feel like I found an all-new version of music. Incredible.

@judegrafmusic

5 ай бұрын

What was the fourth pedal? Besides the POG, MXR, and Equalizer?

Dude I've been chasing this dragon for years and this setup finally got me there. Unreal. Thank you so much for this video.

lol So Deep. i died lol.

@romanuke1057

3 жыл бұрын

Lol ha!

Basically doing what the EXH Bass 9 does, but with pedals a lot of folks already have laying around. Honestly sounds even better if you ask me. Amazing execution, man!

@marcusskjelseth3965

4 ай бұрын

Would it be possible to play power chords with the BASS9 like with the setup in this video?

@itstytanic

4 ай бұрын

@@marcusskjelseth3965 I think so. I'm assuming the Bass9 does something internally that's similar to this, cause it has a mode where you can make it only affect the lower strings, and it sounds like it tracks pretty good, no matter what you play

Thanks for this mate, been looking for a good video that explains and demonstrates this well. Kudos!

This is brilliant. I’m tempted to spring for these exact pedals, so I can do the same thing!

@aquaholik6789

2 жыл бұрын

Do it brother!

This is genius. Thanks for sharing man. It’s gonna help me a lot.

Wow that sounds wonderful.

I’m doing the guitar/bass thing in my band. New to us but working great. Interestingly my setup ended up almost exactly the same. Did not do the eq though so will grab one give it a go. I started out using a/b/a&b box to turn solo each if wanted. Also have a looper to use every now and then if want to solo over bass. So far it is working way better than expected. Recently switched everything to the boss es-8 switcher. Figured out how to program the solo instruments with it not using a/b box. Also set up momentary solo buttons.

That took a WHILE to dial in! But that helps point me in a direction to go. Thanks for this post!

this is so nice and creative! a cheaper way to accomplish this is with the poly mode of the boss OC-3 pedal, works fantastic for me!

See I had it in my head and knew this is what I was gonna do I just needed to see it. Just picked up a 9-string and just spent a year programing drums for my solo-gig. Wiring something just like this but mostly cheaper. Thanks!

DUDE...YES. saved the f’in day thank you this is exactly what I’m looking for

Dig it! Been trying to achieve something like this but was coming from the angle of trying to make chords sound passable but seeing this, it is totally logical to cut everything but the bass. Rad!

@aquaholik6789

5 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help brother. Play around with the EQ and the Compression. Sometimes it sounds cool to have the bass hit that Low E and A string if you are playing power chords.

@Aeilegs

4 жыл бұрын

@@aquaholik6789 Great video my friend. I have a question - if you set the EQ like that, how does it sound for single note riffs? How high can you go before the bass can't be heard?

thank you. you really made this work for you. and obviously you have a good understanding of how to use effects effectively(?). i tried something similar however i realized it's easier to get a guitar sound out of a bass guitar than getting a guitar to sound like a bass. i use a decibel11 pedal palette looper to blend octaves and fuzzes/distortions for 'fake' guitar.

awesome - "its so deep!"

Very nice. Thanks a lot for this very cool demo. Just what I need to add bass end to my six-string chords and noodles. Thanks Evan Troop

@aquaholik6789

5 жыл бұрын

Yes sir - you are very welcome. Hope it's added a new dimension to your playing!

Great video! Really considering making a setup like this. I'd be interested to see what it would be like if you were to put the delay effect on the bass. I'd like to see if you could have the root bass notes repeating over and over while playing guitar scales with a bit of distortion over the delay of the bass notes.

great sound for bass !!

That was a dope base line

I play in an acoustic 2 piece with me on guitar and a mate on a cajon and this setup has really help fill out the sound. So much so that people think there are three of us on stage.

@NickRandall_Music

2 жыл бұрын

@Ross Boyd yeah, it does to a point. As long as you don’t hit the wrong strings when playing and open D it seems to work ok. There’s a bit of trial and error to it

Exactly what I’ve been looking for! I’ve started a 3 piece band electronic/guitar vibe but we don’t have a dedicated bass player. We can create synthbass loops on an MPC or DAW but I’ve been leaning towards developing a hybrid approach on my guitar, looking at maybe the boss oc 5. I have a line 6 hx effects, which does a split chain but I’m finding it tricky to get the bass sound audible and smooth with separation between the two elements. It sounds like the compressor and eq are key to it. I’m gonna try this out thanks

@aquaholik6789

2 жыл бұрын

Grip it and rip it, it definitely works

Rad! Convinced me with the EQ pedal!!

You should do a part 2, Evan. After these years, sure people will dig with a new video about this setup, maybe playing a little heavy, power chords and etc, showing all this pontential. Great vid!

@aquaholik6789

2 жыл бұрын

I can definitely do that!

@Theparadoxdrumma

2 жыл бұрын

@@aquaholik6789 please make an updated video. This is exactly what I’ve been looking for for years and just now stumbled on to this video. This is incredible timing as our bass player just left the band and I still need to find a solution to make the bass come through on our sets!!

Sick tone man

they now have a pickup now that only gets your bottom two strings and requires no routing and a separate output. It's called the submarine and I feel you'd get a way better bass tone if you didn't have to use the EQ like that. The Local H guy has been modding all his guitars with a 2 string bass pickup but this makes it way easier to do without ripping open your guitar.

I been trying to find a solution similar to this off/on past year and see one thing I was missing which is the EQ pedal to totally eliminate everything but bass but also saw the OC-3 poly seems to do similar (but since I have an Octaver pedal might as well add EQ in my current situation). Cool video, thanks.

So simple and clever!!

@aquaholik6789

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

That was so cool!

@aquaholik6789

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!!

great vid man!

Very helpful video. I'm considering doing something similar.

You save my life! Thank you

@aquaholik6789

11 ай бұрын

You’re very welcome!

Very informative, thanks. Thinking about running something like this for a keyboard setup.

@aquaholik6789

3 жыл бұрын

You could definitely do it!

I wonder how throwing in a TC Electronic Mimiq for a multiple player effect would do... gonna try it.

how does it sound with busier more complicated riffs and leads

I wish this technique worked with my already existing songs, it would be so much easier live than having to keep looking for a bassist. Maybe in the future I'll write some songs that wont be dependant on so many people lol.

Awesome, sounds so good! How do you think this compares to that dual/parallel setting that the Oc-3 provides?

@camp0017

6 жыл бұрын

I frequently use OC-3 in poly mode, the third pot set right in the middle (twelve). In this way it uses only sounds beneath the G string for the octave down and I can play both bass lines and chords at the same time. Alternatively I use the Roland GR55 or Boss GP-10, both of which give even more control over which strings should pick the bass sound and which not.

@barrysears1599

6 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of buying the OC-3. It's cheaper than the POG & I'll see how that works before buying an Eq.

@mineguitarerer

5 жыл бұрын

camp0017 I too use an 0-c3. It’s been cool so far on my split signal jack white approach. Using the 3rd knob works but higher notes are quieter which is a major disadvantage. Blaring bass notes when chords are played on lower notes happens to me too, so i will be adding a compressor & EQ like this guy has so I can crank up the octave range & but still enjoy nice chords. Still, you get impressive results from the Oc3 alone. Good luck

@shatalg

5 жыл бұрын

@@mineguitarerer Did you end up getting those? How did it go?

@aquaholik6789

5 жыл бұрын

@@camp0017 Sorry took some time away from social media. OC-3 can works as well, and I actually hauled my rig out to guitar center to try it with this pedal. The tone just wasn't the same. It sounded much more muddy with that OC-3 as opposed to the POG. Happy Playing!

I have a similar set up but for my bass signal chain I go from my aby pedal to a electro harmonics Bass 9 pedal which does what all 3 of your pedals do into 1 pedal

thanks for this bro, j got myself a comp and eq

Anyone heard of Local H? Scott Lucas?

@lucascuadrado5040

6 жыл бұрын

thanks!

@godsfruit-official2555

6 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah

@MobySlick

6 жыл бұрын

Of course, but his setup is quite different. Check this out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXh8kqiJm9m7ZtI.html

@TheOGGameChanger

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yes!! Awesome set up you have too man. And if you ever have a chance, go see a local h show. You won’t regret it

Good tip on the EQ... Wondering if swapping out the POG for an OC-5 would be even more realistic without the synth... 🤔

@aquaholik6789

3 жыл бұрын

Haven’t messed with it, but might work!

@Alex-ze9tv

3 жыл бұрын

I had an OC3 and preferred the EHX POG and Pitchfork. Maybe the OC5 works better.

@bluewavecollectiveofficial1282

3 жыл бұрын

OC-5 works awesome once dialed in. Running guitar into Ampeg VT40 and OC5 wet into Ampeg B115. MASSIVE. The key is not the tech trick, it’s learning a new style of playing that is key. 🤘🏻

If you play a Dropped D progression, will the bass sound washed out or can you dial in the eq to eliminate that?

El Grande 3000 series - Cheers!!!

This is great! I'm attempting to start a doom/sludge duo with just me and my drummer. I often use my baritone guitar (Chapman ml1 Modern Baritone) and am regularly tuned to Drop A and even Drop F; have you had any experience with this low of tuning using the setup you mention? I'd like to know before I spend the money on the bass amp and pedals. Thanks!

@graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989

4 жыл бұрын

It’d probably sound sick- the pig tracks great- even with on octave down on bass guitar- sounds immense. I bet a baritone would be amazing!

@TheVideoOutput

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Black cobra

@Mecawallace

4 жыл бұрын

Play in Drop F and use a Sub N Up and spam the 2 Octaves Lower knob to get the lowest note in creation

@whitebread940

Жыл бұрын

Just saw BodyBox open for Soulfly. Their guitarist was using this technique and sounded great. He didn’t have a bass rig , had same pedals as this guy and had a profile rig. Good luck

Great video. Do you have any idea if the Comp, EQ & POG would work well with acoustic guitar running through a TC-Helicon AcousticPlay? Thanks!

@mineguitarerer

5 жыл бұрын

if you have a pickup then it will work :)

BRILLIANT!!!!!

@aquaholik6789

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@hflores7621

Жыл бұрын

@@aquaholik6789 I’m 65 years old. Retired. Started learning guitar in garage and this “sound” you ingeniously created is something I want to duplicate (with smaller amps). You are a damn genius!

@aquaholik6789

Жыл бұрын

@@hflores7621 never too late to shred. Glad you got some value from it!

@hflores7621

Жыл бұрын

NEVER!!! It’s never how good you are! It’s genuinely the joy you extract from the process! It’s my Medicare medication of choice! 😅

I have a similar setup - but for heavy alt/punk/riff rock stuff. Think cleopatrick and Royal blood. I use a Vox AC15 and a Fender Rumble 40. I do the same thing with a Boss GE7 and an octave pedal…but haven’t tried a compressor on the bass signal chain. Might try that. My struggle is trying to add some gnarly fuzz to the bass amp as well. Anytime I try to throw a fuzz or rat or something at the bass amp, it just doesn’t have any definition or bass crunch. Basically just gets louder. Even a little muddier you could say. Maybe I need a higher wattage bass amp to pull that off. Any thoughts are appreciated brother.

@zachfrancis3751

11 ай бұрын

hey dude, i’ve got a similar rig. guitar amp is a 100watt fender champion 100xl paired with a fender rumble 100. i’d try putting the boost/crunch before the switchblade to get an equal boost from both channels.

So helpful. If I run the bass tone chain through a guitar amp will I risk blowing the speaker?

@geraldfriend256

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you do.

a really good example of this in actual live playing is Royal Blood they are a two piece a bassist/singer and a drummer the bassist has 2 guitar amps and a bass amp along with 3 harmonists 2 pog 2's and some fuzz but this isnt all he is very secretive about his $120000 rig the setup i have for bass to get his sound i have a digitech whammy an EHX big muff tone wicker fuzz a boss sd-1 super overdrive canyon delay switchblade+ joyo powertune for pedals and a fender mustang 3 guitar amp and a peavey amp i forgot the name for the bass amp it sounds very good and the total cost including my squier vibe 60s jazz bass is $1780

just wondering if i should take the Boss GE-7 Equalizer OR the Boss GEB-7 Bass Equalizer for a similiar project of mine, where i wanna turn my guitar into a bass at the same time. can't buy both. luke gruntz from cleopatrick does the same thing and he uses the GEB-7 Bass Equalizer for guitar. so any suggestions which one could or would be better for that? thank you so much!

So is there a way I could play power chords over an A note cause if you set the equalizer to allow notes over an A than it would pick up the high notes in a low power chord.

Could you run the POG through one amp and achieve a similar effect?

Sick

Question, if I just use the outputs on the micro Pog to split the signal and place an eq pedal after the Pog in the effect output line (essentially the "bass" output) would it provide the same overall function?

@aquaholik6789

4 жыл бұрын

Harry Woods for the most part, but adding the compression really helps. Just depends on what you are looking to do. If you want a clean sub octave sound, add the compression. If you’re looking for a bass tone under every note you are playing then it isn’t necessary.

+Evan Troop so some people tried something I tried but I have no money so I still sit on one place with that stuff. Good to know that someone maded it. Electric guitar solo sounds not that awesome. Too bad you didn't showed how this sounds with distortian, if I play heavy metal if it will sound good.

@trillrifaxegrindor4411

6 жыл бұрын

think about getting a job so you can afford to do the things you want

Dope

Hey, Evan. Amazing vid. I just did not understand one thing. When you talk about the EQ, which one are you referring to? It's at 4:16. Thank you!

I might do this instead of buying A Little Thunder Pickup

Do you think the electro-harmonic pitchfork would work just as well for this?

@facedowngaming

6 жыл бұрын

Evan Dillon yes it does. I have one on my board and it’s a cheaper alternative than the POG.

Is it possible to loop though? How can you loop the bassline into the bass amp at the same time the guitar loops into the amp?

Does distortion mess up the eq at all? Trynna run this w a bass big muff and fairly heavy guitar tone

Basically royal blood in reverse

@aquaholik6789

5 жыл бұрын

yes sir

What about power chords with distortion on low strings? Does the bass get messy? if you haven't tested this, do a video please

@aquaholik6789

2 жыл бұрын

Just dial up or dial down the compression. The more compression you use, it will just hit the lower strings and prevent it from getting muddy

Which pedals are the ones I’d need to achieve this? I see you have your whole pedalboard but are all of them necessary for achieving this? Please let me know, trying to figure this out asap

@aquaholik6789

2 жыл бұрын

To get a clean tone yes. Played around with it for many years and that is the best way that I found to make it happen

I would like to see how it sounds when playing Metal

Sweet, now invent a way to tone down those shorts Man! Definitely not getting run over where those bad boys...

Where does the sound stop on the A string with the filter ? Because 100hz is around the F on 8th fret or the maybe the G on the 9th ?

Do you have a video update with similar set up? Or something you can do a portable set up with ipad iphone? A video similar set up while playing drums or cajon?

@aquaholik6789

Жыл бұрын

I don’t - need to make one soon!

Have you tried to use distortion on guitar amp? Could you provide us a demo?

@vincentalessi2648

Жыл бұрын

Hey man! So I tried that last night after I got an aby switch. I don’t have an eq pedal but it did sound pretty good but I’m sure it would be even better with an eq!

Can you do one with distortion as well??

@aquaholik6789

3 жыл бұрын

Yea man absolutely - just place it on whatever channel you want the distortion

So does the eq mean it isolates the bass note and removes the other notes in a chord?

@EdibleOstriche

2 жыл бұрын

the guitars "signal" has two methods of representation, the time domain and the frequency domain. you can think of the frequency domain as a measure of how loud eat "pitch" or frequency is. the Equalizer takes areas of that and raises the volume on it. In this video he is removing the upper frequencies by essentially making them extremely quit, 15db down. Note that dB is logarithmic, so this is a much more significant "scoop" than what it may seem. In short it is not "removing" them technically, just making it quieter. But the effect is that they are essentially gone altogether.

What song is it at 4:30? I know that riff. Sounds great 👍🏼

@asdfghjkldfghjhgcgyuigfyui9792

5 жыл бұрын

basic blues progression

@aquaholik6789

5 жыл бұрын

Just a standard blues progression brother!

I’m just going with a mxr bass octaver and equalizer

A bit confused, can you (or anyone) elaborate on why compression is needed?

@mineguitarerer

5 жыл бұрын

just stops the bass notes from popping- it;s not completely necessary. i have a similar setup & dont need one

I'm playing using this method, but I get a big hum on both amps... any tips? I know it's probably something about grounding, but I don't know what to do though (I have tried using both inputs on my Fender Deluxe reverb but then the bass can drown out the treble signal, so it's not ideal...)

@aquaholik6789

Жыл бұрын

Hey! Most likely a grounding issue for sure or a cable that is giving you issues

@ohpliis

Жыл бұрын

@@aquaholik6789 Thanks! Noob question but how do I ground it? Yeah I guess I can try to go cable by cable to weed out any troublemakers

fuck yeah!

Very nice video and demo, but I have to admit that the POG is way too overpriced for this operation. A basic Octaver like the Boss or similar can do the Job, but u have the versatility with the pog if you need to use octave up for playing guitarparts with a bass (royal blood). I will try my bass octave deluxe from mxr if it will track with my guitar signal right.

Would this setup work with a distorted guitar and some (power)chords?

@frankiecummins2277

7 жыл бұрын

It works great for me! I play heavy stuff... it's an amazing deal. I found using a bass EQ pedal works even a little better... leave the 50h and 125h around flat... I boost the 50 just slightly and the 125h flat. If you have an octave pedal that has a dry mix it will help to dial that in a little too with power chords. Warning is that after you play with that range and mix it really well it's going to be hard to going back to just a guitar sound.

@aquaholik6789

6 жыл бұрын

Hey man - so sorry for the delay here. Yes absolutely - just make sure you throw your effects after the signal switches. I have updated this pedal board considerably. After the split, I have bass and guitar effects for the respective channels.

@LordKellicos

5 жыл бұрын

I'm currently working on a similar setup because I play in a 2 piece black metal band. I'm still missing the EQ and the Compressor, but I hooked up what I have so far, and it sounded pretty good! I'm anxious to get these last two pedals to make it sound better.

@Berzrk-Z

5 жыл бұрын

Frankie, I'm attempting to start a doom/sludge duo with just me and my drummer. I often use my baritone guitar (Chapman ml1 Modern Baritone) and am regularly tuned to Drop A and even Drop F; have you had any experience with this low of tuning using the setup you mention? I'd like to know before I spend the money on the bass amp and pedals. Thanks!

@Berzrk-Z

5 жыл бұрын

Evan, would you mind possibly doing an update to this video with your current setup?

It’s a great Idea I just don’t like that fake octave sound. Isn’t there away to get bass without an octave pedal?!

Does that switchblade have any ground/buzzing issues?

@mineguitarerer

5 жыл бұрын

i have one. the amp which is not selected makes a bit of a quiet hiss, but it's un-noticable when playing. apart from that it sounds/functions perfect

@aquaholik6789

5 жыл бұрын

negative - never had a problem with it.

Very Cool, I play Bass and Guitar together on my channel, it's exactly opposite of what you are doing!

My guys doing a local h

Now with rock distortion instead of reggae white boy college circuit styles

Very old topic, but if somebody is looking for a similar solution, OPFXS Dig Deep can do this job very well.

31 bass players dislike this video. :D btw. if you're on budget boss super octave oc-3 will do the trick by picking up the bass sounds in poly mode, you just need to dial in the range where the pick will cut out.

Damn this is so cool but do you have to have a bass amp? Most of the time bass is di at gigs anyway

@aquaholik6789

5 жыл бұрын

DI works as well!

Eargasm

Hey Evan Great video, I'm doing the opposite phantom guitar! Stop by and check it out

woah I've never seen anyone play with their thumb like that lmao

@6ordon6

7 жыл бұрын

Hendrix used his thumb like that to play chords. You can't really play barre chords when the guitar hangs that low.

@sweetlowfatjesus9663

6 жыл бұрын

Its an old blues players trick, you let the bass ring out and can still play lead with your other fingers, ;)

I tried the Micro Pog, it has a cool sound, but a huge delay for tracking the part. I found it unusable and returned. Are there any better solutions out there and how do you manage that for your sound? I noticed there was a delay for you too, maybe you dont mind

Great sound but too much gear.

Look, I know us bass players are always stealing your chicks because we lay down the funk and have HUGE packages but we generally love playing music with you and will be glad to do it if you would just ask nicely. No need for all of this fuss.....

@aquaholik6789

4 ай бұрын

Lol - you still can never replace a phenomenal bass player 🙌🏻

Were not fooling anyone, but ourselves. We still need a base player, end of story .💁‍♂️🎸

How to steal bass players job

got instantly discouraged by seeing the pedalboard :(

@angelruiz6799

6 жыл бұрын

Skorbutt if you can afford a multi efx with a left and right output you might be able to pull off the same thing

@jimhalpert4.015

6 жыл бұрын

Just remember your basically playing two instruments at once plus you got his fun pedals. So you have a few things going on

@rasmusolesen5307

6 жыл бұрын

Something like this can be done with just the POG. It has a dry out.

Synu spadaj z taką grą.

two boss super octave pedals do this same job