"A person is smart. People are stupid panic-y creatures, and you know it."

@user-bi4fl7hu4s

21 күн бұрын

MiB reference :D

@theprofessorkeen1911

21 күн бұрын

@@user-bi4fl7hu4s I think that pre dates MiB. It's still correct.

@JChaosMaster

21 күн бұрын

Loved that line.

@ombrepourpre7562

21 күн бұрын

Well... He is right. Sadly 😢

@ToxicIdeaStorage

21 күн бұрын

@@ombrepourpre7562 Tell that to Vulkan and Angron. They will not be pleased...

Guilliman is not mad, he's just disappointed

@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis

21 күн бұрын

I don’t think he’s disappointed with Felix it’s a hard but true truth he’s more disappointed with humanity

@jamesespinosa690

21 күн бұрын

@@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis Came here to say this.

@ArnoldJudasRimmer..

21 күн бұрын

​@@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignisand how far it really has fallen...

@AdultToons

21 күн бұрын

Why tho? jw

@Adelie_in_Grey

21 күн бұрын

@@Lord_Inquisitor_Ignis I think there is a chance that it is a mix of both. Like, maybe he is not disappointed in Decimus's assessment, like he's simply not wrong, but rather his conclusion. Look at what he said first: "You have a facility for empathy." He's kinda nudging him to the conclusion Girlyman wants. He wants him to be empathetic and to draw a conclusion born from that empathy. Yet when pushed on it, Decimus just comes to the same conclusion as the rest of the Imperium. A conclusion that has in many ways been responsible for how far humanity has fallen.

Guillermo being mad his son is exactly like him is so in character for him

@redsteel1151

21 күн бұрын

Just like big E. 😂

@michaelkean5969

21 күн бұрын

The Custodes and the Astartes: we want to be just like you Big E and Gulliman: and I want you to be better than me

@santiagoteruel4145

21 күн бұрын

Maybe it wasn't dissapointment in the angry way, but more in the having his expectations meet reality eay

@estebanatachaoarguedas6321

21 күн бұрын

​@@santiagoteruel4145 Like the doctrine he made for his Legion has failed in that part.

@myfaceismyshield5963

20 күн бұрын

Not exactly. All primarchs are more human than the average space marine, despite being even higher above. Primaris marines on the other hand seemingly are even less human than firstborn marines.

The fourth Dark Imperium book will be about Guilliman mandating all marines must perform 30% of their weekly hours in volunteer work and be mostly about Cato Sicarius serving free breakfast at the local munitorium buildings.

@nedcurfman3486

21 күн бұрын

Would still be better than C.S. Goto

@TechNinjaSigma

21 күн бұрын

I would love this

@Neoth40k

21 күн бұрын

"I, Cato Sicários, am the best volunteer in all of Ultramar!" Read this with his TTS' voice

@Kalebfenoir

21 күн бұрын

Pretty sure Cato should be scrubbing latrines. Learn some humility and humanity.

@233Deadman

21 күн бұрын

Salamanders be like "you want us to reduce the amount we help the people?"

Wait until Guilliman meets Leandros. The disappointment he'll feel finding out Leandros's mindset along with what he did to Titus will make the disappointment he felt for Felix feel like nothing

@ProcyonDei

21 күн бұрын

In Astronomibook: Guilliman: "The Codex Astartes was just a set of guidelines made exclusively during times of emergency, they're not meant to be followed religiously." Leandros: "Nuh-huh!"

@LutherannoG

21 күн бұрын

All my homies hate Leandros

@ombrepourpre7562

21 күн бұрын

Everyone despising Leandros is sane of mind, and clean of heart 😂

@Hyde-dg7ef

21 күн бұрын

And he didn't even follow the codex properly

@BigguzCaptainBogz

21 күн бұрын

Leandros = 🤓🤓🤓🤓

This highlights an aspect of Guilliman that few see save for a select few. When the facade drops, Guilliman is "concentrated human". Hid ability to lead doesn't stem from his intelligence, ferocity, or willpower. It stems from his love for people and his ability to process what others cannot even fathom. This is made even more evident when we consider that the big G was rallying worlds to his cause before he'd even met his father. The big E was so impressed that he left Ultramar to Guilliman. On top of all that, big G was rebuilding the empire during the herecy and realized that his brothers were better candidates for ruling. Once he discovered Terra was in danger, he turned all ambitions towards saving his father, brothers, and people. Robot Gorillaman is one of my favorite characters and why I play Ultramarines.

@jacobwiren8142

21 күн бұрын

"Man is greater than any ape, because man is more ape than ape!"

@khinzaw77

21 күн бұрын

In the Dawn of Fire series, one of the Custodian leaders considers Guilliman to be a massive threat should he turn traitor. His justification is that Guilliman built the 500 worlds of Ultramar in the time it took most of his brothers to take one, and some didn't even manage that. He considers Guilliman to be by far one of the most dangerous of all primarchs.

@diarmuidallen5899

21 күн бұрын

If he never came into contact with big E and learned of his origins I wonder if he would have led people against him given how cruel the imperium can be

@theshlauf

21 күн бұрын

@@diarmuidallen5899 Probably depends on which brother he met first.

@lordsathariel4384

20 күн бұрын

as a craftsman and metalsmith salamanders are my lads but the blue smurf and his kingdom of happy and depressed blue guys are definitely still up on my list for possibly favourite loyalists.

I never read that as Guilliman being disappointed in his son, I read it as him being disappointed that his son is right and he knows it.

@clydemarshall8095

21 күн бұрын

That is a more honest interpretation I think. Guilliman is smart enough to know Felix made a mostly correct statement especially in context of the 41st millennium

@dragonsaint9446

20 күн бұрын

I don't think it was the theoretical that Rowboat was disappointed with here, but the practical, the conclusion "they need a firm hand". G-man is acutely aware of how easy it is for Astartes and Primarchs to become tyrants, so both himself and his sons have a history of not taking positions of power when they could, or of taking them temporarily and stepping down as soon as the crisis has passed. I think Robbie was disappointed that Felix didn't seem to have that ideal in mind.

@Happyman28778

20 күн бұрын

Think there’s a lot of ways you can take it. For one Guilliman has always been the one to push Space Marines and humans to work together. He forced the space marines apart solely to project humanity and ensure humans were in firm control of the reigns of power. That hasn’t change even as imperial regent as his only acts of removing the corrupt former rulers of high Tera were immediately justified by there failed coup against the current high lords when Guilliman was in the Indomitus crusade. All of this together paints a picture of primarch whose priority is human control. If a son of his who especially valued for his humanity comes to the conclusion of space marine authoritianism inorder to rule the imperium I think the most plausible reaction of disappointment is in his conclusion rather than the merits of it as it isn’t really a deeply thought out conclusion. Any investigation into imperial history will see that strong men have done far more damage than what distributed power could, where a heavy hand has done far more damage than an outstretched one. Baddab and the age of apostasy is a perfect example and one they’d all be painfully aware of . Meanwhile basic humans have kept the empire together for 9,000 years against Chaos Tryandis, Orks, and Necrons without a single primarch to help them

@SumsieBun

20 күн бұрын

Came here to say this

@snarkyjoe3556

20 күн бұрын

Same here. I mean Decimus in context of 40k is 100% right there's so much infighting and disunity in the Imperium they don't see obvious threats like gene stealer cults until it's too late or don't send enough supplies to fully stomp out an ork WAAGH! only to come back a few decades later and find a planet stripped bare, all the while planetary governors squander resources on luxuries as their hive cities fall into disrepair and get filled with hive gangs and mutants

This reminds me of the _"a person is smart, people are stupid"_ speech from Men In Black. Surely they are making the same argument here

@kharnthebetrayer1575

21 күн бұрын

They are .

@BFTBGSFTST

21 күн бұрын

Wait until you hear about George Carlin

@mastercharlesdiltardino8058

21 күн бұрын

​@kharnthebetrayer1575 some African country Is currently having goblin problems. So yeah, people are pretty fucking stupid.

@Frosty-kz4om

21 күн бұрын

He's absolutely right though.

@Desm0708

21 күн бұрын

It’s not exactly a profound or unique opinion to have. Saying it’s “from” something doesn’t mean much.

His son got a point, group mentality is powerful and often blinding. Studies also show that many people vote more so based on emotions than reason

@FROSTAFRICA

21 күн бұрын

The issue guilliman had was the implication of "A firm hand". Too many times in history things when from bad to worse with this one thought.

@Adelie_in_Grey

21 күн бұрын

Well the majority of people vote emotionally because their goals are inherently emotional: People want to live good and happy lives. The numbers and big picture don't matter if life isn't worthy living. Sadly, without some reason to guide the emotions, people tend to end up voting out of fear, rather than voting in pursuit of that which would bring them and others happiness. and fear, that's a dangerous thing.

@brucejedilee5290

21 күн бұрын

@@Adelie_in_Grey Yes but they go more so for big promises not stopping to question how this person will even be able to make these big promises happen or if they will even try. They also don't think about potential consequences for some of these actions.

@brucejedilee5290

21 күн бұрын

@@FROSTAFRICA They also went from bad to good thanks to it. Augustus, Otto von Bismarck, Lee Kuan Yew and Nayib Bukele being prime examples of this. Even Guilliman is firm as a leader. A soft leader typically isn't a very good one, corruption and crime has an easy time under them. The best type of leader can be both firm and soft but if they can only be one then firm is typically the better option

@MGrey-qb5xz

20 күн бұрын

​@@FROSTAFRICAthat's stupid, a firm hand is better then nothing

Guilliman gave him the "I'm not mad I'm just disappointed" treatment, he really is a dad.

Honestly, he was almost right. A single person is smart, and many people are just a herd of animals. But when he concluded that means they need a firm hand is where he was wrong. Order is important as much as making sure it is maintained, but thats secondary to the most important thing. People need a guiding gentle hand. Someone that is there not just to tell them what they should do and what is right or wrong. They need someone that genuinely cares about them, their plights and their concerns. They need someone that doesn't see them as ignoble or useless, or thay thinks themselves to be above the people they are leading. The best leader is one that looks at their people as people instead of just numbers, and Reboute above everyone knows that.

@heeyyypeople

21 күн бұрын

This holds as much truth as the people are willing to change. You can guide a horse to water but you can't make it drink. What then do you do with the horse? You either leave it to die of thirst, let it free to drink from whatever contamination you tried to take it away from or force it to drink from the trough.

@davidalejandro441

21 күн бұрын

​@@heeyyypeoplebut at the same time, if you force a human to do or think something some will accept it as you planned, but plenty more will rebel against you because you forced them into it. They will resent that thing regardless of how good it was for them and will likely get rid of it after you have passed. Force only goes so far with humans, if it truly worked then why would we have rebellions and civil wars? In my opinion, a firm and gentle hand are tools to handle different challenges, like the sword and the pen.

@heeyyypeople

21 күн бұрын

@@davidalejandro441 You are right in the short term. But if someone is ruthless enough then those who would keep that grudge for generations would be removed and eventually the hatred would be forgotten or laid to rest. I would say an action like that should be reserved for the worst situations but most humans don't have enough time to make a real change there are many instances in history where someone's goodwill and well laid out gentle plan is contorted and becomes the gospel and to date has not returned to its proper form because the people accept the warped version. Humans are paradoxical creatures, we will exalt the worst when it makes us feel nice and so your only real option when being gentle is complete manipulation so that everyone relates the event to feeling great and won't want to change. But then you face another problem, one many people trying to do good right now are facing. You are not immaculate and no matter what someone tells you it will affect how they see you. They may not resent you or place a wall between you, they may even be closer to you than before but it will forever change your image in their eyes. And mobs do not like that.

@informationyes

20 күн бұрын

@@heeyyypeople Its not really those in charge being ruthless but simply exercising authority thats more firm than anything on the direction they will go, if they are too ruthless it doesnt need multiple generations to manifest as they can start a rebelien in that one as has happaned, any smart monarch knows not to push the people too far.

@heeyyypeople

20 күн бұрын

@@informationyes I think there's a misunderstanding. 1. Who says the general populace needs to know that you are the reason x family disappeared? Whether it's hiding it or propaganda deflecting blame. 2. Who says the people must rebel? Manipulation buys more time than you think, who says what you've done won't be in full swing and the people's opinion won't be what solidifies your reign? 3. Why are you considering the general populace? With things like that its leaders that will be targeted, in the end if both parties have public dirt then the one who offers more to the people will be chosen. Actual opinion of the general populace matters little in games of manipulation, its about who can stir the crowd in their favor more.

He may be disappointed, but Decimus having the ability to acknowledge his lapse in perspective and openly speak his mind to his primarch is fairly i.oressive by 40k standards.

Girlymam:screw this legion,I'm adopting the Salamanders

@ProcyonDei

21 күн бұрын

Or the Lamenters (they really need it)...

@cassandrabelyeu2419

21 күн бұрын

I bet he’s disappointed that his sons don’t get out enough. They should have play dates with the Salamanders.

@drunknnirish

21 күн бұрын

He abandons all his other plans to go help them find the artifacts.

@NA-xb6xu

21 күн бұрын

😊

@donnikthejedi2222

20 күн бұрын

​@@drunknnirishnah Vulkan notices Girlyman going for his Chapter and returns to bearhug and carry his beloved Brother Rowboat back to his own Chapter

(Guilliman pulls out a comically large belt) Marine: "Why do you have that father?" Guilliman: "For disappointments"

Meanwhile: "HEY KID WANNA JOIN CHAOS WE GOT WARP DUST OOOOOOO YEAAAH!" _ethereal guitar riff with no apparent source_

@Flesh_Wizard

20 күн бұрын

I imagined the bad to the bone riff

@Asdrapan

20 күн бұрын

Fuckin noise marines at it again...

@theandychrist2599

20 күн бұрын

2012 warhammer memes man

@coolguymccainn7125

19 күн бұрын

A-A-A-APOTHACARY ROCKSO HERE

@ulrickts

19 күн бұрын

@@theandychrist2599 2012 memes about 1980s warhams art. Back when the Eldar were all David Bowie lookalikes and Slaaneshis were leopard-print-clad hair metal rockers.

If anything Guilliman is probably thinking back to the Great Crusade and the 'liberation' of so many worlds that just wanted to be left alone. The 'heavy hand' the Imperium used to bring those worlds back into compliance because they 'didn't know what was good for them'. Perhaps Roboute had hoped that he was wrong about the mass of humanity... or of the instinctive desire in the Imperium to deal with any minor issues with an iron fist.

@atuokoye7748

20 күн бұрын

But technically they didn't,the emperor needed to bring them into compliance otherwise chaos would have been able to get a foothold on those worlds

@Kalebfenoir

20 күн бұрын

@atuokoye7748 on some yes. But on most it was an excuse to wipe out a civilization that wanted to stay alone. There were a lot of worlds put to the sword because they mistakenly said "no thanks" to the 'beneficent' offer of "Obey Me Or Die."

@Jedislayer19

20 күн бұрын

@@atuokoye7748 some of those worlds only fell to chaos BECAUSE the Emperor brought them into "compliance". No person can see all ends- not even Big E. The Emperor's greatest failing, both as a leader and a father, was his arrogance.

@accountname9506

19 күн бұрын

@@atuokoye7748 the imperium destroyed many groups that weren't chaos influenced at all just because they were different, like the mixed human-alien nomads who just wanted to be left alone.

@evansabahnur3383

18 күн бұрын

@@accountname9506 "yet". strong unified empire is a powerhouse that survives on sheer momentum and mass. a single world, or even a league of star-systems is like being alone in the great ocean. that's equally valid and leaving those "Strong" systems that survived the age of strife, it is play wide vs play tall. Usually play wide wins.

Ah listening and reading the book, he wasent disapointed in felix he was disapointed how dehumanized the astartes abd emperium has become, ever since he woke up its been 1 thing after another.

Guilliman is actually, grudgingly accepting this grim reality being spoken by one of his sons... I mean. He asked the question. And this is how far humanity has actually fallen. Just takes Roboute a minute to actually accept it really.

@Lomhow

20 күн бұрын

Very interesting perspective. I like it. Lots of interesting interpretations throughout the comment section, but I agree with you the most. Guilliman wasn't judging Felix as much as he was reacting to the reality of the answer.

@ArnoldJudasRimmer..

20 күн бұрын

@@Lomhow I honestly believe that. Felix does not want to answer like that does he? He has to, his literal gene-father just asked him outright what his thoughts were. And he was not expecting such a cold reply....one which a crusade era Ultramarine would never have said. Cheers for your reply 👌

@LightCrasher

16 күн бұрын

I also dont see why Guilliman should be disappointed in his son. What his son said is exactly how this galaxy worked for humanity for several thousands of years. Individual wants a friend, crowd wants a leader. People don`t care much where did this leader came from, only what he does, and what results his actions bring. That`s true now, so why wouldn`t it be true then?

And this way He's a great ruler and would be a great father

The Primark knows he's right but he was looking for a more enlightened answer😂

@Adelie_in_Grey

21 күн бұрын

preferably one that uses that Empathy he has the facility for.

@Volcano22207

20 күн бұрын

It was the last part thet dispointed him

Guilliman: My disappointment Is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

That "I see" is much deeper than you think. It's like when you disappoint your father and you feel shit

🙂 Guilliman is a genuinely good person

@rory8182

19 күн бұрын

yeah, he likely agrees too, but is sad that it is how things are

Where he messes up is his lack of faith in humanity as a group. That the people as a whole can't choose what is good for them.

@evansabahnur3383

18 күн бұрын

because we cannot. we cede decision making on 'somebody else" - and it is FFA who that somebody else turns out.

"Oh yeah! They do need a firm hand or two" 😈 - Slaanesh

People have a large capacity for empathy. If a car flips off the road and is set on fire people will rush in to try and save the driver. If a glove or a personal item has been lost many will put it somewhere where others will find it. Humans have a large capacity for empathy and Roboto Gorillanomics needs to teach that to his kids.

@sneckotheveggieavenger9380

20 күн бұрын

I can tell you live in some cushioned place and haven't been to Africa, china etc

@chasewrubel2853

19 күн бұрын

​@@sneckotheveggieavenger9380Doesn't sound like you have been, either, sneck.

@sneckotheveggieavenger9380

19 күн бұрын

@@chasewrubel2853 Where you from?

Sounds more like guilliman is disappointed in himself. If his chapter thinks this way its his fault ultimately

Its really funny how most people in the comments agree with Felix totally ignoring the point of Guilliman disappointment. People behave like animals when you treat them like animals.

@jack-azote2778

21 күн бұрын

True aswell

@xFirtewx

21 күн бұрын

people are animals , most of their actions they take by necessity or emotion , when in fear they behave like pack animals do , especially in large crowds reason dies , and people only truly respect strength because if you are weak your only choice is to respect strength nothing more , humanity is the finest example that just because you can reason does not make you less of an animal .

@Pedro-zu3uq

21 күн бұрын

@@xFirtewx so because humans act instinctively in the very specific scenario of being in massive crowds or feeling crippling fear they are animals? What about the other 99% of the time? We leave so much of our animalistic behavior behind in our every day lives, gets really easy to dismiss all this stupid arguments about “humans are barely keep on the line, I need an assault rifle to feel safe” or “with a firm hand (violence against vulnerable people) our society would run better”.

@erenmeydanc8954

21 күн бұрын

​@@xFirtewx well but you miss one point yes when you give an animal a fear enough they will obey all their lives but humans well .. Simply hold grudge and when you loss little tiny bit power you dead

@gobolgar

20 күн бұрын

@@Pedro-zu3uq Humans act instinctively in every moment of their lives. Humans seek out food when they are hungry. Humans shit when their bowels are full. Humans search for additional partners even when they already have one. Humans do what they have to do to bring in income, so that they can satiate their animalistic desires, such as wanting to buy clothes to look pretty to attract a more desirable mate. Even the fields of philosophy and science are driven by instinctual urges like curiosity.

One of my favorite pieces of wisdom is this, “A person is smart, but people can be stupid” it backs up the idea that mob rule can become an overpowering, dangerous, and ignorant mindset

Sorry Guilliman, but Decimus is right on the money. Sometimes an inconvenient truth cuts deeper than even the sharpest blade.

@Calibretto9

21 күн бұрын

Maybe that’s why he’s disappointed?

@Pedro-zu3uq

21 күн бұрын

Ooooh so edgy

@xFirtewx

21 күн бұрын

decimus is right on the money on this one

@xFirtewx

21 күн бұрын

@@Pedro-zu3uq call him edgy , but i want you to call him a liar , you cant ,so shut up.

@Pedro-zu3uq

21 күн бұрын

@@xFirtewx I’m not gonna debate human condition with you in a yt comment but people behave like animals if you treat them like animals.

Guilliman: "Well, I heard the Salamanders have an opening for their Primarch position. Maybe I should send them my resume."

If Decimus disappoints Big G just by his words, imagine how Roboute must feels about Leandros about his cowardly actions and words

I'm still confused at why he was disappointed? This sounds exactly like what he would want him to say!

@user-wu8dg7cp1r

17 күн бұрын

I believe he was disappointed in the people, not in the poor guy who told him the truth

I don't think Bro was wrong, as a species our collective IQ goes down as group size gets bigger.

I mean it’s not like Gulliman is a bastion of freedom and democracy. He lives and dies (yes even the baby imperium) for a regime just like his son described

It's like the look your dad gave you when he asked you to bring him the allen wrench but you gave him a socket wrench instead.

Guilliman forgot 1 thing, Astartes where kids taken and then slowly turned into warrior monks that train constantly for war tht doesn't leave a lot of time too feel human, exceptions being the salamanders and space wolves

I’m suddenly reminded of the quote People are smart, humans are dumb

Im pretty sure you probably screwed up big time if you managed to disappoint roblox gamerman

@gamemaster1608

20 күн бұрын

The worst thing about that it's the guy isn't wrong and Girlyman knows that, due to how f*cked up the Imperium is in the 41 millenia Rawboat Girlyman truly deserves some vacations, maybe he could let Kitten, Captain General of the Adaptus Custodes, take care of this for a while

Guilliman: You're suck a disappointment. Marine: But, I'm just like you. Guilliman: I know.

Guilliman just can't believe that his son is quoting Agent K.

The marine accidentally re-invented Thomas Hobbes' leviathan 😭

Why was Rowboat booing him, he was right.

Gulliman finally realizing that his Ultrasmurf aint that special either. Heck even Cawl roasted the Ultramarines when he said that Gulliman sons turn traitor the most and Gulliman got mad and turn down Cawl from doing a mix of Chimera gene seed

I think its more he is disappointed in the reality of the situation. I feel like its more he is disappointed that his son affirmed what he he himself already believed and he was hoping that he would see something else in the situation that he missed.

“I see” “I shouldnt have said that. I should NOT have said that.”

"My Lord, are you displeased with something?" "Hm? My apologies, I was thinking about how much you take after your Grandgather."

I think Felix’s quote is one of the best lines I have ever heard So very true As soon as people gather together all reason goes out the window

Felix lacks human contact, he just said, war is all he has known.

I don't think he was disappointed because of how wrong his son was. He was disappointed because of how right he was.

Wait until Bobby G sees the current state of humanity in 40k...he'll understand It's already an understandable position 💀

Gulliman wasnt disappointed with his son his son was 100% correct he’s just disappointed in humanity and that the answer is so painful

The fact that he is this honest with himself says much about his character

Wait until Guilliman meets Cato Sicarius 🤣.

bro was like: "why are you booing me you know I'm right"

This isn't the first time Guilliman has been disappointed by one of his sons. In the Horus Heresy series there's a short story about an Ultramarine who follows a prototype of the Codex Astartes to the letter during a wargames training scenario. I'm paraphrasing here, but the long and short of the conversation was: Marine: "I don't know why I lost, I followed the book to the letter." Guilliman: "That is dumb and so is the other thing you said. Don't follow the Codex blindly, use some initiative, gee whiz....."

"Violence, Selfishness, as individuals it is our greatest Strength, but as a Species it is our greatest Weakness."

nice video

"Thats gonna go to my spreadsheet of disappointment"

The chief librarian needs to be retitled to chief therapist

"Why are you booing me? Im right!"

Ultrmarines : just like him, just not better Guilliman : *visible dissapointment* Blood Angels : Managed to overcome the urge to turn into pretty much a Khorne Berserker... Sanguinius : "THAT'S MY BOY !!! DID YOU SEE THAT ?! HE DIDN'T EAT THEM !! I'M SO PROUD OF YOU SON !!"

When the emperor called guilliman a traitor, he was talking about something he haant done yet

Sadly its a common thing among space marines, Primaris or otherwise. Many of them have nearly zero interaction with rest of humanity at times and they don't see a problem with it.

The Whole purpose of the Astartes is to protect Humanity, you don't protect Animals, The Salamanders retain the true spirit of being an Astartes

Friedrich Nietzsche - ‘In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.’

Just goes to show how dumb and naive Robot Girlyman is as a Primarch, the fact that he thinks people in a large group are anything but mindless sheep. 😂

@TheCrimsonRevenger

13 күн бұрын

I've come to notice something about people with this mentality. They are invariably the first in line with their grubby palms stretched out to the people in power for a handout. The loudest to blame others for their own failures. The quickest to go loot a flatscreen TV in an emergency.

He's not disappointed, maybe he just knows that there is a certain truth in this boy's words.

He doesn’t sound disappointed in his son, only his answer. The son’s conclusion is basically “People need leadership.” Which is a conclusion both Guilliman himself and his own father the Emperor reached long LONG ago. I think Bobby simply wished it wasn’t so. That he could trust in people to be more than mere animals. And he can. But only if he can forgive the animals when they get out from time to time.

my head canon is, for Guilliman for himself to think that way is still bearable because it is the truth he have to deal with currently, but to his relatively new son to think that way... he doesn't know whose to blame.... environment of Imperium, his son or even himself

He’s the hero we need not the one we Deserve!

Behold the emperor’s “angles”

He is not mad... Just disappointed.

Guilliman: "So this is how Dad felt."

The Ultramarine is quite right, however. Which Guilliman proves when he breaks his own rules about Space Marines ruling worlds.

Any normal human who work in crowd control knows how right the Marine is.

The context is wrong here. Guilliman isn’t disappointed in the space marine, he’s disappointed that things haven’t really changed for normal people.

I wish your normal videos were as good as these shorts

Robute wants that to be wrong but knows he’s right.

“I need Russ’s liquor cabinet to get through this shit.”- Girlyman thought.

"People know whats good for them on small level, they know how to make ends meet, they knew how to care abortion their children and they have strong sence of self preservation, but expecting them to understand and make strategical and political decisions on galactic scale is to expect them to complete a task they were never trained in and lack proper informations for. In a same way that battlebrother being excelent warrior does not mean he will be a good tactician. Humans can only operate on level they are used to, and we are no exception my lord, we require guidance to make correct decision" Would be my answer

"A person is smart. But people are dumb, stupid, panicky animals- you know that better than most." - Agent K, Men in Black

I once had to do a survival quiz with a group of people. The outcome was that I would have easily survived if I did it on my own and perished if I did it with them in a group.

I wouldn’t take that as him being disappointed directly at that son, more so that - that way of thinking is going to be more common amongst his sons than he could’ve realised before because in the end they are taken away as children and brought up in the art of war.

He should have said as a group they need leadership

Guilliman: YOU ARE BREAKING MY HEART BOOY... Just... I'm Just disaa... F ck... I'm leaving Sfx.. Big blue man sobbing

I don’t think Guilliman is disappointed with him but rather he was disappointed in the fact that the belief that a firm hand is needed instead of a soft one, has spread throughout the chapter that even someone new to being a marine believes it

To be fair, Felix is extrapolating from known data. I mean look at how the imperium ended up once the emperor stopped leading directly.

decimus basically describing democracy 10/10 spot on

Decimus wasn't lying!

it was at that moment a thought crossed girlyman's mind. a thought that said "whorus was right"

Girlyman can be as disappointed as he wants, But he's not wrong... 😅

the good answer is that we need information instead of mere speculation

I think he was disappointed because that particular Ultramarine started well but ended up sounding ominously like a Son of Horus. Guilliman maybe a pragmatic man, but he does have ideals. And he probably doesn't want to see his sons, or the empire, to turn into something that Perturabo would have made.

Oh wrong dialogue choice need to load my last save

"Vulkan doesn't has to deal with this shit..."

"I see..." Said Guilliman to the being classified as a sentient weapon system rather than a man lol

I see. A huge surprise is coming for Ferus Manus

Could you imagine blinking?

I don’t think he was disappointed in his son, I just think he was disappointed in the fact that he that he had to agree, atleast partially.