Guide to the Nine Hells of Baator | D&D Planescape

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Perhaps the most extensive video on the Nine Hells in existence.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:53 A note on pronunciation
2:13 Law and evil
4:36 Fiend taxonomy
10:28 An overview of Baator
13:13 How to get there
17:41 How to get out
19:23 Spell keys
21:02 The Dark Eight
21:42 The Lords of the Nine
25:49 Asmodeus
30:29 Avernus
38:46 Dis
43:38 Minauros
46:52 Phlegethos
49:41 Stygia
54:47 Malbolge
57:03 Maladomini
1:01:38 Cania
1:04:19 Nessus
1:06:37 End
Sources:
Planescape Campaign Setting (1994)
AD&D Guide to Hell (1999)
Planescape Monstrous Compendium 1 (1994)
Planes of Law (1995)
Dragon Magazine #223 (1995)
Dragon Magazine #75 (1983)
AD&D Manual of the Planes (1987)
Faces of Evil: The Fiends (1997)
Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes (2018)
On Hallowed Ground (1996)
Well of Worlds (1994)
The Fires of Dis (1995)
Hellbound (1996)
Maztica Alive! (1991)
Dragon Magazine #91 (1984)
The Lost City (1982)
Dragon Magazine #93 (1985)
AD&D 2nd Edition Player’s Handbook (1989)
D&D 3.5 Player’s Handbook (2003)
D&D 3rd Edition Manual of the Planes (2001)
D&D 3.5 Elder Evils (2007)

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  • @rejvaik00
    @rejvaik004 ай бұрын

    "Did you ever hear of the tragedy of Asmodeus the fallen? I thought not, it's not a story your gods would tell you. It's a myth of creation. Asmodeus once known as Ahriman was an upholder of order, so knowledgeable and so powerful he could influence the chaotic void to create law He had such a knowledge of law that he could even keep at bay the demon hordes. Unfortunately he couldn't convince the gods to decide upon the center of creation and without their uplifting wings he fell into the lowest pits of the hells. Ironic he could uphold the law, but not himself"

  • @TheH8redd

    @TheH8redd

    3 ай бұрын

    Always remember that Asmodeus is also called the Lord of Lies, so all the stories, myths and legends surrounding Asmodeus are probably all lies. Even what I just wrote here is mostlikely a lie. The only certainty we have about Asmodeus is that we don't truly know who he is, but even that is probably a lie...... Is he the embodiment of this paradox: I always lie? (If this statement is a lie, then I don't always lie and tell the truth sometimes, but if the statement is true, the statement is self defeatiing...)

  • @derpasaurus155

    @derpasaurus155

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheH8redd are you telling me the archdevil himself would... LIE??!!😵🥴🤯

  • @TheH8redd

    @TheH8redd

    3 ай бұрын

    @@derpasaurus155How can a paradox LIE? Explain that to me. ( Refering to the I always lie paradox).

  • @truthjustice6454

    @truthjustice6454

    Ай бұрын

    Misinformation and Disinformation...😅

  • @suy21
    @suy214 ай бұрын

    Holy crap, one hour of Planescape content. Impressive, Wade 🎉👏

  • @professorgrimm4602
    @professorgrimm46024 ай бұрын

    I love your example of Jeff Bezos as a lawful evil character

  • @TheCoulsonlax

    @TheCoulsonlax

    4 ай бұрын

    All billionaires are lawful evil

  • @johnmobley9369

    @johnmobley9369

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s been a favorite of mine.

  • @gabrielrussell5531

    @gabrielrussell5531

    4 ай бұрын

    My preferred examples are Robert Moses and Henry Kissinger.

  • @StonedPriest

    @StonedPriest

    3 ай бұрын

    It's fitting. The Bbeg of the campaign I've been running is a cross of Vandal Savage, and Bezos. He's a long lived hobgoblin general who retired and started a shipping empire in a Spartan-esque society.

  • @truthjustice6454

    @truthjustice6454

    Ай бұрын

    I remember an amoral billionaire reference, not anyone specific. Time stamp?

  • @danielrowan4716
    @danielrowan47164 ай бұрын

    Mr Allen - I’m a huge fan of Planar Lore and this was a concise yet wonderfully thorough treatment of The Nine Hells. Well done. Asmodeus was listed in the 1e AD&D Monster Manual as the Ruler of Hell. Additional treatments of the hierarchy of Hell was provided in Dragon Magazine #76 from August ‘83.

  • @The_butler_did_it1194
    @The_butler_did_it1194Ай бұрын

    First time seeing your channel, I'm only seven minutes in and already subscribed. Awesome work! Super stocked to watch more of your dnd stuff.

  • @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi
    @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi14 күн бұрын

    Why is it comforting to listen to videos about the structure of Hell? Thanks for your hard work in compiling and performing.

  • @jaxongolf
    @jaxongolf11 күн бұрын

    Hey Wade 🙏 I'm back behind the DM's screen working on a 5e homebrew, blending canon with the idea that Garden in Avernus is a planar convergence with a realm of Mount Celestia, and I've been really inspired by your videos. Thank you very much!

  • @sheldorleconcher8870
    @sheldorleconcher88703 ай бұрын

    The satanic panic was really annoying...our group had to change gaming locations a half dozen times because of some sort of outrage and crazy accusations of devil worship and whatnot. As a teenager back then, it always struck me as weird that the "adults" couldn't see it was all made up. It still seems weird. Good content, btw. Even after decades of playing and DMing, it was interesting and gave me ideas for my current infernally influenced campaign. Thanks!

  • @AndyMcGehee

    @AndyMcGehee

    2 ай бұрын

    I still don’t know how my Dungeon Masters Guide survived the “purge of 1984” by my stepmother after I left home for college. I’d love to see the look on her face if she ever saw my copy of the Book of Vile Darkness.

  • @truthjustice6454

    @truthjustice6454

    Ай бұрын

    You all gettin' Woke now?😅

  • @jaxongolf
    @jaxongolfАй бұрын

    Great explanation of evil using the corporate analogy.

  • @GravSh4rk
    @GravSh4rk4 ай бұрын

    Love me a long form lore video. Currently in a plane hopping DnD game so this info is valuable to not let my party TPK

  • @mattstackhouse6292
    @mattstackhouse62924 ай бұрын

    Great video. The abyss is the most obvious next choice.

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Okay I've got one vote for Mount Celestia and one vote for the Abyss.

  • @D--FENS

    @D--FENS

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@WadeAllen001This is the only request you'll receive for the Gray Wastes of Hades, so I'll leave it right here.

  • @goblinbxtch7540

    @goblinbxtch7540

    Ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 Adding a Mechanus vote into the mix, I actually have the least amount of notes about it lol

  • @shaggyzor
    @shaggyzorАй бұрын

    Just found this video in recommendation, subbed after hearing yer narration. Looking forward to more lore videos, love it!

  • @Toddobvious
    @ToddobviousАй бұрын

    Good call on the “bay-eh-tor” solution, I think that’s the best choice. I think all of these pronunciations should be based on which one sounds best

  • @jakubus8906
    @jakubus89064 ай бұрын

    Your planescape videos are really good! Can't wait to see some more

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @rickywarren567
    @rickywarren567Ай бұрын

    Fantastic video bro. Absolutely brilliant sir!👏👏👏

  • @neceon4586
    @neceon45864 ай бұрын

    This is such a comprehensive video. Thank you so much!!!

  • @Klavinoid
    @Klavinoid4 ай бұрын

    Hell yea! Perfect timing. Your videos are becoming my primary source for Planescape information. Heres to many more.

  • @TurboWulfe
    @TurboWulfe5 күн бұрын

    Lve these long form vids, keep on keeping on 😎🍻🤘

  • @jppitre
    @jppitre4 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah! Running a Planescape game and your videos have been essential

  • @steved1135
    @steved11354 ай бұрын

    Nice work Wade. Takes a lot of research and time to put this all together.

  • @JanSobieski3rdSiegeDefiler
    @JanSobieski3rdSiegeDefiler4 ай бұрын

    Amazing videos, loved your take on everything. Hoping to see a video on The Abyss soon!

  • @mosom_
    @mosom_4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this incredible video, when the episodes on The Abyss and Hades come out I will die happy

  • @SpectrumHazard
    @SpectrumHazard4 ай бұрын

    Hell yesssss hype I love the Planescape/Great Wheel Cosmology vids, so cool to hear all about it

  • @chuvarova6052
    @chuvarova6052Ай бұрын

    I loved this video so much. The lore, rules, and history are layed out nearly perfectly and concisely. The only thing I wish was talked about more was Malbolge and what happened to Malagard when Glasya took it over. The whole layer is covered in a bloated and fat Malagard's remains after she imploded. Her bones, hair, skin, blood, etc covers the cliffs and Glasya makes her home out of her huge skull. Other inhabitants carve out dwellings from her bones and skin and stuff. Also, a lot of cool art and new 5e lore for all of the Hells was included in Chains of Asmodeus and from the info provided from this video, I assume you aren't aware or chose to omit what was in that book. Not saying that as a bad thing necessarily since this is mostly following 2nd edition by default but I would have really loved the comprehensiveness of the lore of this video to go from 95% to 100%. Either way, superb video!!

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words! I've gotten feedback from a few people that I should include more lore from later editions, so I've started doing that.

  • @charliebee5154
    @charliebee51544 ай бұрын

    Long form D&D lore that is well narrated? Automatic sub! 😁 Thank you.

  • @nathanaelthomas9243
    @nathanaelthomas92433 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Very well done 👍🏻

  • @corporeal5980
    @corporeal59803 ай бұрын

    This was a much better overview than most videos i have seen on the planes. I'd definitely watch more even if im not a Forgotten Realms fan.

  • @connorb7234
    @connorb72344 ай бұрын

    Loved your outer planes video, and this one was awesome too 😊 my personal favorite outer realm is elysium!

  • @cernunnos_lives
    @cernunnos_lives4 ай бұрын

    Great God's Below.... I'm loving this episode. Thanks for your hard work brother.

  • @HoobtheNoob
    @HoobtheNoob2 ай бұрын

    This is amazing thank you!

  • @xgoldies
    @xgoldies4 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! You are appreciated🙏🏼

  • @jgraham6267
    @jgraham62674 ай бұрын

    oh hell yeah, love your other two planescape videos

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    I've got four other ones. I only correct you in case you missed them and would like to watch them. There's the guide to the outer planes, guide to the inner planes, the factions of sigil and their philosophies, and the sects of the outer planes.

  • @jgraham6267

    @jgraham6267

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 I haven’t seen those yet. Sounds sick, will check them out. Thanks!

  • @lutandomhlalase4416
    @lutandomhlalase44164 ай бұрын

    3:50-4:10 I just can't with you roasting a certain billionaire, I just fell out 😂😂😂

  • @Dndditches
    @Dndditches2 ай бұрын

    Love your Planescape videos. As a DM, I’ve recommended your videos to my players so they’d have some idea of the planes and factions before we start playing. I would love to use Garden in my game at some point. I also like the lore between Bel and Zariel. In my last session, I had Bel hide inside a PC’s body (when they visited Avernus) and revealed himself when the players arrived on Celestia, citing that was the way he could get into Lunia and survive the holy water bath. He got the idea from Zariel, whom infiltrated Baator so Bel decided to infiltrate Celestia.

  • @oguzhanozgenc7843
    @oguzhanozgenc78433 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! This is amazing

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad you like it!

  • @brentwalker9576
    @brentwalker95764 ай бұрын

    My reconciliation of viewing other infinite layers (a quirk not unique to Baator) depends on the plane in question, but can be best described as “weather and planet gazing”. To a mortal, the description should feel uncanny, but the natives talk about it the way we talk about meteor showers, eclipses, and constellations. For some layers, the rest appear almost peacefully in the night sky, for others like rifts and tears in reality, and for other like an overlaid optical illusion, or shimmering like the aurora borealis. Embracing the weirdness and treating it as totes ordinary does a lot to let you keep each plane’s phenomenon feel right

  • @justin.channels
    @justin.channels4 ай бұрын

    55:50 I like your note on pronouncing Malbolge. Think of the sound in the makeup/color rogue (but the thief) 😆 Great video, really.

  • @sayerslayer1854
    @sayerslayer18543 ай бұрын

    Very nice collage and presentation

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @ChrisGrahamkedzuel
    @ChrisGrahamkedzuel4 ай бұрын

    Love to see your take on Carceri.

  • @destonlee2838
    @destonlee28383 ай бұрын

    Well done. And I can't give you what doesn't exist. I'll see you in Cania!

  • @AbstractDuality
    @AbstractDuality4 ай бұрын

    Subscribed. I want more.

  • @truthjustice6454
    @truthjustice6454Ай бұрын

    Entertaining and informative. Its important to establish that the Kytin in Memnos are actually not beholden to Mammon, and have their iwn Independent territory. Cenobites...

  • @Hugeandhandsomeman
    @Hugeandhandsomeman4 ай бұрын

    This was a great video, definitely make some more dnd content!

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Working on it!

  • @Hugeandhandsomeman

    @Hugeandhandsomeman

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 I can’t wait for your abyss video!

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Hugeandhandsomeman maybe I'll do that after the next one then, but I'm already pretty far into work on Mount Celestia.

  • @Hugeandhandsomeman

    @Hugeandhandsomeman

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 understandable, can’t wait if you do end up making it🙏🏻

  • @Natsirt666
    @Natsirt6664 ай бұрын

    Great vid. Got a new sub.

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the sub!

  • @hasde_fo
    @hasde_fo4 ай бұрын

    it just amazing piece of work, thank you Wade! though...please return my soul...

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    It's mine now.

  • @Craig_Tucker48
    @Craig_Tucker484 ай бұрын

    Love your videos on the planes. They are the only ones you make that interest me but damn they are good ❤️ Though I think you mixed up the layer of Malbulge with the plane of Gehenna.

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Malbolge and Gehenna do have some similarities, but I was taking most of what I said right out of the Planes of Law: Baator book. And many things were changed about Malbolge in later editions of D&D, so that might be contributing to the seeming mixup as well.

  • @100iqgaming
    @100iqgaming3 ай бұрын

    i really like the tenar'ri distinction from the oberyth and the other one, in my game baatezu will refer exclusively to petitioners also

  • @Sirfinchyyy
    @Sirfinchyyy3 ай бұрын

    Its worth mentioning that the larvae in 5e are basically currency and barely considered sentient.

  • @blairshort1098
    @blairshort10984 ай бұрын

    Who would voluntarily become a resident of Dis? Vogon - "My Identity papers, Visa, letter of introduction and public enquiry findings, in triplicate."

  • @PhoenixFlame321
    @PhoenixFlame3213 ай бұрын

    30:05 My take on the limbo vs heresy distinction is that: Limbo is for souls that were virtuous but never had the opportunity to learn the gospel and enter the holy covenant with Christ. Christianity has this thing called "The Original Sin", a vague idea that a seed of evil lives within us thanks to the first sin committed on The Garden of Eden and that can only be purged through Jesus' sacrifice. Since the orthodox belief is that one can only enter paradise while completely and utterly free of sin, being a genuinely good person isn't enough, you must be a baptized and faithful Christian to enter heaven (A foul, manipulative tactic to force others to join their cult out of fear of damnation) Heresy on the other hand is reserved for those that DID learn of the gospel of the holy church, but had the audacity to disagree and have their own opinions. Anyone that believes in anything that deviates from the teachings of the orthodoxy is damned to suffer even more than those chilling up in the first circle. It is a common trait of cults to persecute and condemn those that were once part of it but dared to leave. There's also a third even worse level of punishment in Violence, the Seventh Circle. It is divided into three parts and the third part of ring 7 is for the sin of Blasphemy, for those who not only dared turn their back to the gospel, but also spoke out against it and God himself. Critics get to burn in blistering sand and under a constant rain of fire.

  • @caelinnis
    @caelinnis4 ай бұрын

    I will master the hells. I am The Master Baator

  • @jonstewart2233

    @jonstewart2233

    3 ай бұрын

    Finally, some one bringing proof of the true pronunciation.

  • @jasonhopper2130
    @jasonhopper21304 ай бұрын

    Dude. Malagard is her attempt to acheive Godhood swelled up and burst. Malbolge is a fetis wasteland of exploded hag guts. Her fingers became gigantic towers. Her ribs split and became the 2 mountain ranges that encircle the plane. Her skull swelled to enoumous Godlike portions and is the capitol of the plane and the palace where Glasya resides

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah that's some cool lore. Do you think I should include more lore from later editions in these videos?

  • @alvaro701

    @alvaro701

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@WadeAllen001 I think it would be a very interesting sidenote

  • @Whichendup
    @Whichendup8 күн бұрын

    I have observed that you often bounce back and forth between editions and make allusions that all the lore is meant to be static, like during the Lord of the First explanation, but in fact there is a timeline of events that you are missing in your explanations. Zariel was the Lord of the First, then Bel got promoted to Lord of the First and Zariel his advisor, later on Bel lost favor with Asmodeus and he reinstalled Zariel as Lord of the First. All of those things happened in the lore. It's not the books or editions being contradictory, rather they happened at different eras. Before Zariel, Tiamat ruled the First layer. There's enough conjecture that we can assume even Graz'zt the Demon Lord, was once Lord of the First before he was corrupted by Chaos while on his mission in the Abyss, and after conquering three layers of the Abyss decided to stay to become a Demon Prince rather than go back to the Nine Hells hierarchy. In official D&D books it is stated Graz'zt was once an Archduke of Hell. Also stated: Asmodeus tasked Graz'zt with leading an army into the Abyss to retrieve a fragment of the heart of the Abyss, the shard of ultimate evil. Archdukes of Avernus typically are the ones who rule over the Dark Eight and the Devil army who fight in the Blood War. It's reasonable to assume that Graz'zt used to be Lord of the First. Probably even before Tiamat ruled the layer. In the lore Tiamat did not care for rulership of Avernus or being part of the Archdukes' plotting and politicking. So she gave up the title as Lord of the First, wanting to focus more of her energy on the Material Plane.

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    8 күн бұрын

    I will definitely grant that I didn't go into later edition stuff very much at all in this video and mostly talked about the Lords of the Nine as they exist in 2nd edition, but the differences in each edition often are (but not always) contradictions that are later smoothed out (or an attempt is made at smoothing them out) and retconned into a cohesive timeline. 4th edition provides lore about Graz'zt originally being a devil that was tasked with re-finding the Shard of Evil for Asmodeus (and 5th edition also mentions Graz'zt previously being an archduke), but 2nd edition and 3rd edition both have it that Graz'zt is the child of Pale Night, born a demon and not a devil. To accept the edition-spanning timeline is to retcon away the contradictions such as these, but I prefer in these cases to just view each edition as its own thing.

  • @gabrielrussell5531
    @gabrielrussell55314 ай бұрын

    I feel like you should acknowledge the non-serpent origin Mo has in every edition but 2E.

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Alright. I've gotten a few comments asking me to include more lore from other editions, so I'll be doing that from now on.

  • @tripNine1
    @tripNine14 ай бұрын

    Crap. I was half asleep when I signed that apparently

  • @user-of2py3gf3i
    @user-of2py3gf3i3 ай бұрын

    I feel like it may have help clarified in the beginning. How they are corrupted soldiers, the whole good vs evil war going into the order vs chaos that actually led to it. But I get that is a rabbit hole.

  • @yellotoaster9368
    @yellotoaster93683 ай бұрын

    26:30 So here's why I struggle so much to get into D&D lore. Before coming to this video, I just watched another video about the story of Zariel. In there, it said that at the beginning, there was chaos, and then the gods of law formed and fought chaos. So, in the alignment thing, there was only law and chaos as opposites. Also, there were angels, among which Asmodeus was the best fighter. Then Asmodeus and the bois turned evil and signed a contract with the law gods to make him his own plane, Baator, where he could fight chaos and torture the unlawful mortals without the other angels complaining. Then the gods realised they got screwed over by that contract and tuned Asmodeus in a Devil and yeeted his ass into nessus. And this is when Evil and Good appeared on the alignment. The devils were lawful evil, angels lawful good and demons lawful chaotic. Now, here you come and tell me about good and bad serpents, Asmodeus being the bad one, and I have to completely throw out the window all I learned in the previous video. It's a total effin mess

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah there's contradicting lore in each edition of D&D (and sometimes even within one edition). Really it's up to the DM to use which one they like best, or to use them all as stories without telling the players outright which one is the real story. The lore you just described sounds more like the lore of 5e as told in Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes. The reason I used the twin serpents story is because that's the one given in second edition of D&D that Planescape existed in (up until very recently because they've now published a 5e Planescape campaign setting set).

  • @JosefDerKaiser
    @JosefDerKaiser8 күн бұрын

    Let's be honest though, the Satanic Panic creating the Tenari allowed for some of the best DnD deep lore with Tharizdun and the Obiryth.

  • @dagonslayer51
    @dagonslayer514 ай бұрын

    You should check out the DM's Guild book "Chains of Asmodeus". It is a fascinating outlook into the nine hells

  • @marselpanov8801
    @marselpanov88014 ай бұрын

    combine opposite planes into one video. I think it will flow nicely

  • @Mr.Fox1213
    @Mr.Fox12134 ай бұрын

    Man I really want to learn more about Mephistopheles, probably my favorite Archdevil!

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    He's definitely got the coolest name of all of them.

  • @swindler1570
    @swindler1570Ай бұрын

    I love your lore content. Any chance we could get an underdark video? Or specific cities, like Menzoberranzan?

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    Ай бұрын

    That's a good idea. I haven't really done any non-Planescape stuff yet like that, but I should try it out. To be honest covering Faerun lore seems a little daunting because there's like 300 books on it. The Outer Planes have comparatively less source material to read through.

  • @swindler1570

    @swindler1570

    Ай бұрын

    @WadeAllen001 I totally get that. If you wanted to cover all lore tie-ins, across all source material, for a given topic, that would seem daunting indeed. But, it's probably okay to miss some niche interactions or historical events here or there. No pressure, of course - cover what you're comfortable covering. I'm sure you'd do it justice, though; particularly if you chose a narrowed scope to begin with.

  • @helloidharbl6753
    @helloidharbl67532 күн бұрын

    Glad you mentioned that. A LOT of stuff in the DnD texts is written in a way that suggests a non English speaker decided upon the words. And no, I don't consider ye olden tyme Englesh to be English.

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto4 ай бұрын

    49:27 Well, that makes Karlach's "this had better be sexy or violent" comment into new persepective.

  • @kaptenteo
    @kaptenteo4 ай бұрын

    Yay!

  • @Tromador
    @Tromador4 ай бұрын

    Gentleman cutter, I'm really enjoying this series. Brings back fond memories of a Sensate Githzerai I once played. I hope you might be inspired to make a more in depth video about all the planes and attract some subs for your effort. I have certainly shared this playlist with my group. If I had one criticism it is your pronunciation of Sigil. I've always said /ˈsɪdʒɪl/ (soft g). I did look this up and the IPA I quote is what Wikipedia thinks is how one pronounces sigil, in context of magical runes. Still it's not the end of the world and I have learned quite a lot from these videos, so feel free to carry on and ignore my griping. 😅

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad you've been enjoying my videos! I pronounce sigil with a soft g when referring to magical runes, as Wikipedia correctly states it should be pronounced. But Sigil the city is not pronounced like sigil the word.

  • @MadAdamStudio
    @MadAdamStudio4 ай бұрын

    Good video. Shame I'll never finish it.

  • @thescandinavian8339
    @thescandinavian83392 ай бұрын

    Great vid One question.. what is the breakdown for the celestials... Or don't they have a breakdown like fiends?

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    2 ай бұрын

    They do! I've gone over it in my Guide to the Seven Heavens of Mount Celestia video. But basically it's archons = lawful good, guardinals = neutral good, eladrin = chaotic good, aasimon = any good.

  • @heru7182
    @heru71824 ай бұрын

    The grief I got as a GM pronouncing Drow like Crow, instead of Cow.

  • @RevocerGM
    @RevocerGM4 ай бұрын

    here's my soul: with thanks

  • @Safier_Poochy
    @Safier_Poochy4 ай бұрын

    The next video should about the cosmology counterpart. The seven heaven of Mount Celestia. First the Hell and than the heaven.

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing.

  • @joaoluizcamacho2733
    @joaoluizcamacho27333 ай бұрын

    Pleaseee make one about Thanatos, the layer of Orcus in the abiss

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto4 ай бұрын

    37:01 Now we know where Wulbren Bongle will go after death.

  • @Luredreier
    @Luredreier4 ай бұрын

    12:26 My take on this is math. Like how a imaginary number can be tied to a physical number through a equation. Actually, think of it like Minecraft. You take a portal to the nether, go somewhere and then take another portal out and it's much further away. Both dimensions might be infinite, but you could argue that they're different sizes even if both are infinite. Does that make sense to you guys?

  • @iancasleton6356

    @iancasleton6356

    4 ай бұрын

    Infinite Infinite plus 1

  • @mrl9418
    @mrl94183 ай бұрын

    Me, a savage: B'Ah-Ah-tor

  • @KevinBoosts
    @KevinBoosts3 ай бұрын

    I didn't find any chapters dedicated to the nine hells in the 5e planescape release..? Did I miss something?

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    3 ай бұрын

    There aren't any. This video is primarily about original Planescape (2e).

  • @KevinBoosts

    @KevinBoosts

    3 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 thanks

  • @3X3NTR1K
    @3X3NTR1K2 ай бұрын

    Actually ininities can be different sizes! Some are infinitely bigger than others. Several times over. Don't think about it too much though. Or at all.

  • @dkhosh7380
    @dkhosh73803 ай бұрын

    I pronounce baator the same way you'd pronounce baal like from the bible because it sounds right to me and is usually how youd pronounce a double A

  • @Dndditches
    @Dndditches4 ай бұрын

    Upvote for using the name “Baator”

  • @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi
    @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi15 күн бұрын

    I think the problem with sigil is that the various planes are infinite in size and then there are an infinite number of material planes but sigil and the outlands are basically finite in size

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    15 күн бұрын

    The Outlands is also an infinite plane. It has a finite boundary but the area contained within that boundary is infinite. Basically the distance between any two places in the Outlands is not constant. Distances are also not constant in Sigil and the city does not have a fixed size, but changes according to the Lady of Pain's whims.

  • @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi

    @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi

    13 күн бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 I see. I had to watch a few more videos. The Plane of Concordant Opposition is its other name. It is deceptive to think about the gate cities at the edges giving it a finite dimension - but no stranger than the other planes. Sigil is a kind of inverse of a prime material plane

  • @Luissera873
    @Luissera8734 ай бұрын

    You should do a video on mechanus

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Mechanus is a cool one, and I will definitely do it at some point. Maybe the next video? I don't know. Right now I've got one vote for the Abyss, one vote for Mount Celestia, one vote for The Gray Waste, and now one vote for Mechanus.

  • @SigfridSWE
    @SigfridSWE3 ай бұрын

    Bg3 comment; Raphaels lord/leige is mephistopheles. He says that in one of the endings, where he notes that even his "father mephistopheles...". Does that mean that Raphael probably are a Duke/Arch-Devil under his father Mephistopheles? Or... is he one of the Damned 8 or... is he a Combion... most people seam to think he is a Cambion... but it doesn't fit in my opinion... ayway.... any thoughts people?

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    3 ай бұрын

    I figured he was a duke, just not an archduke like Mephistopheles is.

  • @pleasedontmakemefamous8301
    @pleasedontmakemefamous83014 ай бұрын

    Is there enough lore to do one of these for every outer plane?

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah. Perhaps not an hour for every one, but at least half an hour.

  • @ghostoftanelorn9928
    @ghostoftanelorn99283 ай бұрын

    I just use a longer aah sound, and I also roll the the r on baah-tor̃

  • @shirak8
    @shirak8Ай бұрын

    Will this video make me a Master of Baator?

  • @SonySteals
    @SonySteals3 ай бұрын

    Bezos roast 👌👌

  • @Pugiron
    @Pugiron2 күн бұрын

    The name is derived from the name "Ba'al" first meaning "lord" and latter bastardized into a demon name. Pronounced "Bah-All"

  • @SpitBlossoms
    @SpitBlossoms2 күн бұрын

    fey wilds next?

  • @destonlee2838
    @destonlee28382 ай бұрын

    The Satanic Panic is not over. Stay vigilant, have fun, refuse their judgement.

  • @fleetcenturion
    @fleetcenturion4 ай бұрын

    32:39 - "Archons" are the petitioners of the Heavens. Zariel was an angel (or aasimon, in 2e).

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Good catch. Though I believe angels are also petitioners, they just get promoted from archons.

  • @fleetcenturion

    @fleetcenturion

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 - No. They were there from the beginning, not promoted from petitioners. Such a thing would only be possible, if a petitioner were to reach the uppermost layer of the Heavens, but that is only a theory.

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    @@fleetcenturion there's a poster in the planes of law book that shows that trumpet and tome archons get promoted into aasimon if they perform their duties well.

  • @fleetcenturion

    @fleetcenturion

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 - Despite it being a borderline splat book, I suppose it's canon then.

  • @theprinceofawesomeness
    @theprinceofawesomeness4 ай бұрын

    2:30 finaly, someone who understands that Evil and Good are only defined as Selfidh and Selfless, being Evil dosen't mean you can't be moral. Edit: feel the same about the Law/chaos part but this point is more understod by players

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately we might not be completely on the same page. Being evil is defined as selfishness yes, which means that evil creatures don't necessary kill people or enjoy killing people, but how could an evil creature still be moral? How can one not care about others and be a good person? (Keeping in mind of course, that the more you don't care about other people the more you don't mind if they get harmed in the process of you getting what you want)

  • @theprinceofawesomeness

    @theprinceofawesomeness

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 i'm thinking of it as that you can practice moral or ethical ideas for selfish reasons. like Pacifism, you might not care about others getting hurt but you might care about getting blood on your own hands and becoming "impure"

  • @garymorris7472
    @garymorris74724 ай бұрын

    Just call it Hell, the only thing I hate about 2e is them getting scared and changing the names of Hell and the devils/demons

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    I agree, though I suppose the reason I call it Baator more often than I call it The Nine Hells is because D&D itself does. They reverted back to devils and demons, but Baator remains what they call it (or The Nine Hells of Baator).

  • @garymorris7472

    @garymorris7472

    4 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 I'm subscribed by the way 😉

  • @mattsmall5038
    @mattsmall50383 ай бұрын

    Fun bact, Baatar is Mongolian for hero

  • @thedeaderer8791
    @thedeaderer87914 ай бұрын

    😂 I always laugh when I think back to the Satanic panic. Imagine thinking something is a dark recruiting tool to fiannly bring the anti christ apocalypse and really it's just 5 nerds in a basement eating snacks making d**k jokes and pretending to blow stuff up

  • @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi

    @NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi

    15 күн бұрын

    That’s what the Devil wants you to think

  • @rjungquist1978
    @rjungquist19784 ай бұрын

    Pay wall? Do you mean product for sale?

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, though I don't see a distinction really.

  • @AdlejandroP
    @AdlejandroP4 ай бұрын

    YAGAMI LIGHT

  • @chara2038
    @chara20384 ай бұрын

    I always pronouced Bah-thor XD

  • @rincew
    @rincew4 ай бұрын

    It's interesting if it was intended for Athar faction have any connection or inspiration "given" by Asmodeus. Athar doubt that known gods are really divine and Asmodeus is trying to make everyone atheist, so he gets their souls. Maybe Athar are part of his grand plan to regain power 🤔

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    They are. It mentions that in the Guide to Hell. The Athar are Asmodeus' favorite faction and he often helps them secretly (secretly to everyone. The Athar don't know they're being supported by him). Personally I don't think I really like this bit of lore because the Athar are a cool faction and this whole thing kinda makes them look foolish. And because it's just taken a bit too directly from real world Christian ideas.

  • @Coopernicuss
    @Coopernicuss3 ай бұрын

    I always called bahTOR and BAHtezu 🤷‍♂️

  • @Safier_Poochy
    @Safier_Poochy4 ай бұрын

    Shouldn't "the garden" be moved to another plane?

  • @WadeAllen001

    @WadeAllen001

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe. Clearly though it must be lawful evil for it to stay in Baator. Its beatific nature is just a deception to lure people in and consume them. Slightly related, 5e has it that Baator used to be a beautiful place, but was corrupted by the devils once Asmodeus took control. And he kept Avernus beautiful so that essentially the whole layer functioned like Garden, as a trap to lure people into the Hells. But then Avernus turned into a barren hellscape due to Zariel's warmongering and invasions of demons in the Blood War. Perhaps I should've covered this in the video, but I was trying to focus mainly on original Planescape rather than 5e changes. But maybe for future videos I'll include more 5e stuff.

  • @Safier_Poochy

    @Safier_Poochy

    4 ай бұрын

    I like that you use mostly 2e Lore. I'm currently reading up on Planescape myself, as I find it very interesting and want to make a campaign for it. Your videos help me a lot.

  • @joethepagan3297

    @joethepagan3297

    2 ай бұрын

    @@WadeAllen001 There is the old joke about Bill Gates making a deal with the Devil so that Windows becomes a success. He asks the Devil for a glimpse of Hell. The Devil takes him to a beautiful location where everyone is enjoying themselves and is happy. Gates signs the contract. Decades later he dies, and finds himself in a lake of fire. He demands to know what happened to the place he was shown. The Devil tells him that what he saw was a Beta version of Hell. What he is in is the release version of Hell.

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