Grundig MTB Downhill World Cup Kaprun 1993

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Grundig MTB Downhill World Cup Kaprun 1993

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  • @stephenkohler3472
    @stephenkohler347210 ай бұрын

    It's crazy how fast they were going on those sketchy bikes. Missy was so impressive!

  • @jorgschneider4907
    @jorgschneider49074 жыл бұрын

    I cant remember the exact year but i've been there with a friend. During a Training Run, i crashed my Marzocchi Xc500 forke with 50mm of travel, but marzocchi race Service repared it, so that i could Start at the race next Day. A great time....

  • @Mynameismud-p5t

    @Mynameismud-p5t

    Жыл бұрын

    Du hattest damals schon eine Federgabel?!! Angeber! ;)

  • @wernerflieger6862

    @wernerflieger6862

    6 ай бұрын

    Hatte ich auch .😂😂😂

  • @jorgschneider4907

    @jorgschneider4907

    6 ай бұрын

    Hat auch nix gebracht 😂

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    Ай бұрын

    @@Mynameismud-p5t Not only did he have a suspension fork, it had 50mm of travel! Most only had like 30mm back then. 😁

  • @stinkyrainbow653
    @stinkyrainbow6534 жыл бұрын

    Yeah...me in my twens and shredding the hills with my GT LTS...or RTS...don't remember, I had both. I was auch a GT Fanboy 😂. Had the Karakoram, Zaskar LE, RTS and LTS ... and a GT Perforner BMX😂. I miss those days so much. 😭

  • @LhDiy
    @LhDiy4 жыл бұрын

    The 12 who voted thumbs down did not know how is was to MTB in that time. No or absent body protections, short shock travels, bar ends ...

  • @Adoogin

    @Adoogin

    7 ай бұрын

    absent body protections? Looks like these guys are all kitted with motocross gear head to toe...

  • @LhDiy

    @LhDiy

    7 ай бұрын

    You're right, in these kind of competitions, but not everywhere @@Adoogin

  • @judevenalian5008
    @judevenalian50084 жыл бұрын

    I guess the only requirement for "downhill" in those days was that the rider had to be going in a generally downhill direction?

  • @ol48spring

    @ol48spring

    8 ай бұрын

    Totally. I started riding in the nineties. Looks like xc to me 🤙🏻

  • @S0ulinth3machin3

    @S0ulinth3machin3

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ol48spring not on those bikes. You took a beating on those things. It was still quite violent. I remember one downhill section where I knew where I wanted to go, let go of the brakes and let it rip. My head was bouncing around so much I couldn't see. Was just hoping to stay on the trail. Didn't try that again, surely lost a lot of brain cells with the brain bashing against the skull like that.

  • @dirtydave2691
    @dirtydave26916 жыл бұрын

    Missy Giove on that cool ass full suspension Yeti. Those were great days.

  • @JJ-ru5xr

    @JJ-ru5xr

    5 жыл бұрын

    And M.Rockwell gute alte Manitou .

  • @JTMarlin8

    @JTMarlin8

    5 жыл бұрын

    6:34 apparently her name was Missy Ciove back then.

  • @JJ-ru5xr

    @JJ-ru5xr

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JTMarlin8 Ciove ? Just an error in the Vid?

  • @radiocontrolled9181

    @radiocontrolled9181

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. And yet . . . . a massive 26 seconds slower than Stiefl !!

  • @michaelbullen3104

    @michaelbullen3104

    3 ай бұрын

    That’s one of the few bikes here I’m not that scared watching go downhill. That one looked fairly sturdy. Thee rest of them are riding off of what are basically Walmart forks lmfao their frames are good but half the shit slapped on them is ass

  • @trailchoice2229
    @trailchoice22294 жыл бұрын

    I wach this vid. 2020 and my bike has 180mm of Travel and the guys in Video ride faster then I with a Hardtail and Bad Brakes.

  • @danielstormy3660

    @danielstormy3660

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you want win, you should not use brakes :-)

  • @calvacoca

    @calvacoca

    4 жыл бұрын

    And 5cm travel forks ! 🤪😁👍

  • @radiocontrolled9181

    @radiocontrolled9181

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@danielstormy3660 Yes sure . . . try going round that bend at 23:10 without braking before . . . and you would certainly win ..... the open field face down in the soil :-)

  • @mariomoreno9954

    @mariomoreno9954

    3 жыл бұрын

    today the halfwork is made by the bycicle, beyond the good riders of today, those time were gold for MTB.

  • @BLAZER1337
    @BLAZER13374 жыл бұрын

    Imagine travelling back in time and showing them the video of last year's Red Bull Rampage...

  • @abandoneduniverses

    @abandoneduniverses

    2 жыл бұрын

    Useless thoat...same to show a lazer gun to 1600 people

  • @mirak63

    @mirak63

    Жыл бұрын

    I looked at the one of 2022 and yeah ... kzread.info/dash/bejne/d46K24-QotHJqco.html But back in the day they were doing normal stuff with shitty hardware and that looked pretty extreme because of that kzread.info/dash/bejne/iK6Oza1-ab2ZZco.html

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    Ай бұрын

    Even better, Hardline. They would marvel at jumping over roads and doing 90 meter jumps.

  • @kennyfenny4754
    @kennyfenny47544 жыл бұрын

    In 1993 they be like ''That dude has 50mm of travel and narrow stright bars, wow ?

  • @radiocontrolled9181

    @radiocontrolled9181

    4 жыл бұрын

    In 1993 they didn't care much about bike spec . . . they measured 'dudes' by the size of their balls.

  • @AdrianSchwizgebel
    @AdrianSchwizgebel4 жыл бұрын

    Unvorstellbar dass der heutige OG und wohl ältester aktiver Fahrer Greg Minaar damals gerademal 12 Jahre alt war.

  • @jemen1709
    @jemen17096 жыл бұрын

    I remember those days very well. Tomacs Pearl Izumi skinsuit still kicks ass!!!!

  • @Daniel.Berlin
    @Daniel.Berlin3 жыл бұрын

    52 oder 62 zu 11 Übersetzung. Da bekam man noch Speed drauf. 💪🏻

  • @keiko909
    @keiko9094 жыл бұрын

    loud colours. yep, it must be the 90's

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    Ай бұрын

    I had a few colorful jerseys just because that was what I could get, but I tried to keep it black. I was the local punk/goth mountain biker in Alaska during the early 90s. I had one of the few black Fat Chance Yo Eddys to be seen (I ordered it that way).

  • @keirfarnum6811
    @keirfarnum6811Ай бұрын

    Back then, because technical courses were too hard on bikes, they tried to make it more like Alpine skiing downhills; based on pure speed. There were some more technical courses, but they only became more common as the technology improved. P.S., I remember Regina Stiefl as a German downhiller from World Cup skiing. Sometimes I forget that she went into mountain biking after her WC career.

  • @miyui9269
    @miyui92699 ай бұрын

    same difficulty as with today's races. back then, they road so fast on a pretty tame tracks using sketchy bikes. you still have to go as fast as possible and a crash can take you out for a season. now, we ride very technical terrain with reliable brake system on the most forgiving and comfortable bikes ever. ride as fast as possible and can take you out for a season if you crash as well.

  • @calvacoca
    @calvacoca4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it could be very interesting to add a full rigid bike category in DH contests 🤔

  • @radiocontrolled9181

    @radiocontrolled9181

    4 жыл бұрын

    I believe that there are 90's downhill videos here on YT which are raced on full rigid. Try searching for the 1992 Grundig races. Many riders used full rigid.

  • @samblenkharn8099

    @samblenkharn8099

    Жыл бұрын

    Steve Peat famously got his first DH win on a rigid kona.

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    Ай бұрын

    I’m amazed seeing pro XC racers on rigid forks in 1993. Most everyone I knew was on Mag21s or Manitous by then. Sponsorships kept some pros from adopting the tech early, unfortunately.

  • @erichhudson2090
    @erichhudson20904 жыл бұрын

    Really great video. Excellent post!

  • @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    4 жыл бұрын

    🥰🙏🚴‍♀️💪💚✌😘

  • @calinopincariu5530
    @calinopincariu55304 жыл бұрын

    Now and then... this looks like a very xc for now, it s even hard to say it is xc. Man, you went on your bike and you were rocket, good memories, that s the most important thing.

  • @traviswoff
    @traviswoff2 ай бұрын

    90's rocked

  • @josuagrub
    @josuagrub Жыл бұрын

    So geil ❤ danke

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Жыл бұрын

    What? am I the only one to notice they spelled Missy's Giove's last name wrong at the first finish?

  • @davidg7170
    @davidg71703 жыл бұрын

    For all those commenting that this course looks pretty tame - even back then that was the opinion. Google Cap-D'ail to see a ridiculous course from the same era.

  • @AthelstanEngland

    @AthelstanEngland

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheers for that link - yikes!

  • @manchesterunitedno7

    @manchesterunitedno7

    11 ай бұрын

    and Megavalanche have been around since the 90s. so, yeah, the extreme ones always there.

  • @budesmatpicu3992
    @budesmatpicu39926 жыл бұрын

    wow, nowadays more technical obstacles, jumping etc. in crosscountry than in '93 downhill

  • @neilgouws6962

    @neilgouws6962

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's called evolution 🤔 I was racing XC then and still the odd race today .. If I had my XC bike today , back then .... I would have been a professional ! Back then , your XC bike was your down hill race bike too 🤭🤣 Cheers 🇿🇦

  • @Romin.777
    @Romin.777 Жыл бұрын

    The lower the technology the higher the skills required. This time was my hayday too. :)) My purple hubba bubba hubs in my Mountain Cycle.. *'sigh"*

  • @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    Жыл бұрын

    😍✌

  • @keirfarnum6811

    @keirfarnum6811

    Ай бұрын

    Ringles? Correct?

  • @Gazzaloddi-ml9ej
    @Gazzaloddi-ml9ej6 ай бұрын

    I was riding Amp Research Forks in 1993

  • @seco86
    @seco864 жыл бұрын

    GT Forever

  • @Benini916
    @Benini9165 ай бұрын

    In today's standards, this is basically XC race.

  • @RK-mc8zy
    @RK-mc8zy2 ай бұрын

    If you ever wanted to know where the term “euro” comes from it’s early MTB racing.

  • @user-bo4vm8de1t
    @user-bo4vm8de1t4 жыл бұрын

    Классные велосипеды делали раньше из нормальных комплектующих не то что сейчас

  • @abandoneduniverses

    @abandoneduniverses

    2 жыл бұрын

    ,❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @raceace
    @raceace4 ай бұрын

    Can’t believe we survived with 55 mm of travel.

  • @John-jh8yx
    @John-jh8yx7 ай бұрын

    Cool ☺️😊

  • @christianbarros1580
    @christianbarros158010 ай бұрын

    An easy way to understand 90's downhill is: "Before this, there is nothing", no suspensions. no official races, no real brakes. This was the shit.

  • @ysfabd100
    @ysfabd1004 жыл бұрын

    Not cool how future people make fun of these historical people and their bicycles..Ok we get it you have better bikes in 2020 and better clothing.. good for you! Enjoy them guess what people after you will be mocking you

  • @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    4 жыл бұрын

    😘

  • @skoms2024

    @skoms2024

    8 ай бұрын

    Because of these pioneers we have those fancy bikes now, remember.

  • @reinaldomiranda9618
    @reinaldomiranda96184 жыл бұрын

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @saraspitefull32
    @saraspitefull322 жыл бұрын

    Yarrrh 👍

  • @johnhartmann5875
    @johnhartmann58758 ай бұрын

    Die Moderatoren waren zum einschlafen, da halfen die Hintergrundinformationen auch nicht. Wegen denen habe alle abgeschaltet und das Fernsehformat wurde eingestellt.

  • @Oleksii_Popov
    @Oleksii_Popov8 ай бұрын

    Кантилеверные тормоза... колеса 26"... Рулевые колонки на 1"

  • @HamsterWheelGaming
    @HamsterWheelGaming2 жыл бұрын

    4:49 *guy shreds down the road* 4:52 Lady: Yeah sorry, not impressed...

  • @michaelbullen3104
    @michaelbullen31045 ай бұрын

    These old FRAMES were good, sure. Great even. Slap modern top class 26 parts all over it and some disc brake adapters with top tier disc brakes, some good bars, grips, the works, you have a pretty good old school new school hardtail mix, But those parts… Lmfao they SCREAM sketchy. Was waiting for a fork to snap at any second. The suspension on them looks Walmart esque lmfao Idk how they did it. Balls of steel.

  • @abritandhisbikeinpoland6802
    @abritandhisbikeinpoland68024 жыл бұрын

    Those bikes have no handle bars!!!??

  • @carlodosa7951
    @carlodosa79513 жыл бұрын

    I've just seen this video: I've just decided to restore my cousin's old bike and throw myself downhill in Trentino's woods

  • @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    3 жыл бұрын

    🚲💚👍

  • @policematrixx
    @policematrixx4 жыл бұрын

    fair play to them

  • @Nonnenmacher87
    @Nonnenmacher874 жыл бұрын

    26" Inch Tires >

  • @knightsportsfc3s

    @knightsportsfc3s

    4 жыл бұрын

    ZoD I still ride my M3 Intense with 26in. I'll be shredding it in about 9hrs

  • @FelipeLuizDickmann

    @FelipeLuizDickmann

    4 жыл бұрын

    These kind of racing is like gravel riding now a days

  • @shiftlove
    @shiftlove3 жыл бұрын

    This is hilarious. No wonder their bikes could have minimal suspension. Those pads though. Damn. I bet I’ve had pedal strikes harder than anything they would have experienced lmao

  • @knightsportsfc3s
    @knightsportsfc3s4 жыл бұрын

    Send a like for old school. I have an Intense M3 Comment below what your old bike was!!

  • @ethanbenton6676

    @ethanbenton6676

    4 жыл бұрын

    2001 Rocky Mountain Blizzard, it’s still kickin’ it as a commuter

  • @sergarcarr

    @sergarcarr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kona Manomano 1997. Still using it, a very nice ride and the V-brakes are the dream

  • @elvisderblasehase9522

    @elvisderblasehase9522

    4 жыл бұрын

    1994 Trek 8000 ZX. I'm still riding it

  • @possibly8180

    @possibly8180

    2 жыл бұрын

    1991 muddyfox seeker mega, it's falling apart and is a size too large since it was my dad's bike back in the day but I'd be damned if it isn't fun as fuck to ride lmao

  • @donnovicki9771
    @donnovicki97715 жыл бұрын

    The Missile could fly.

  • @catbijoux1

    @catbijoux1

    4 жыл бұрын

    True, but the other two girls smoked her.

  • @Kowinaida
    @Kowinaida2 жыл бұрын

    The bars are so narrow...it's one step away from just holding the stem to steer.

  • @Mynameismud-p5t
    @Mynameismud-p5t Жыл бұрын

    Gerhard Zadrobilek. Fuhr mit dem selben Bike XC und am nächsten Tag den Dh.

  • @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    @RetroMountainbikeVideos

    Жыл бұрын

  • @paco_rider
    @paco_rider3 жыл бұрын

    Vibration party

  • @jltrack
    @jltrack4 жыл бұрын

    500mm bar width. Sketchy AF. Seriously why did no one think of runny wider bars back then?

  • @joshcheck7532

    @joshcheck7532

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because that all ran 120mm stems to counteract the poor handling

  • @sergarcarr

    @sergarcarr

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joshcheck7532 more stem than fork travel... That's fucking hardcore

  • @christianjimenez6004

    @christianjimenez6004

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check the handle bar that John Tomac used on his bike . It was a roadbike handle bar .

  • @markjerham2478

    @markjerham2478

    4 жыл бұрын

    I run 640mm and no problem going fast dh

  • @jltrack

    @jltrack

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@markjerham2478 Same, I can still ride fast on 680 bar. I just recently moved to 760's and they just offer more stability.

  • @peppi0304
    @peppi03044 жыл бұрын

    13:30 fast alle fahren bereits schon mit einer gefederten gabel :D

  • @Mynameismud-p5t

    @Mynameismud-p5t

    Жыл бұрын

    Manitou mit geplatzten Elastomeren! Good old days

  • @hedrick5286
    @hedrick52864 жыл бұрын

    Funny

  • @mariusznaw2592
    @mariusznaw2592 Жыл бұрын

    Magura Race Line... I'm still using those in my 95 rigid steel 26in mtb. However this bike is single speed these days I find it as perfect gravel bike.

  • @o_mtb1925
    @o_mtb19254 жыл бұрын

    Back than downhill track , today Green Beginners Trail

  • @aakos26

    @aakos26

    4 жыл бұрын

    Question is: how fast you can bomb down on a green trail. Most of people are able to go down on blacks well, just matter time.

  • @radiocontrolled9181

    @radiocontrolled9181

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aakos26 The speed is directly proportional to the size of your balls.

  • @ethanbenton6676
    @ethanbenton66764 жыл бұрын

    More like “Fireroad bomb World Cup”

  • @Danstheman1357
    @Danstheman13574 жыл бұрын

    Needs skinnier bars

  • @iliyadavoodipour6366
    @iliyadavoodipour63664 жыл бұрын

    i cant beleave how shitty mountainbikes were back then xD. ive doing mountainbiking for7months now and i think with my 120mm trailbike i could be one of the fastest at that race.

  • @calvacoca

    @calvacoca

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not sure at all ! 😉

  • @stewpleee

    @stewpleee

    4 жыл бұрын

    You ever rode a 20yrs old bike? Try downhill with that

  • @givemeakidney

    @givemeakidney

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't miss yourself. Even back then those guys were AVERAGING 60+Kph down the course, pushing 44 tooth chain rings.

  • @lennidk1013

    @lennidk1013

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't think so. People crash today riding long slack bikes on 1,5 m. wide purpose build family friendly "trails" . Don't think you would smoke Tomac or Vouilloz just cause you got a modern bike 😉

  • @kona6812

    @kona6812

    4 жыл бұрын

    Belive me, you wouldn't be in the Top 20 at least! I raced this course and know most of the contenter personally ,a bunch of bad asses! And look how the old guns shred today e.g. Nico Voullion! These race were highspeed races.

  • @lucacecchinato3797
    @lucacecchinato37978 ай бұрын

    Che ricordi che gare e con che bike correvano mamma mia

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