Grubby: "this is a beginners guide" Beginners: "the hell is going on"

@phillow

4 жыл бұрын

Love that he so casually builds a ziggu midfight at 15:30 :D

@normalguy5583

4 жыл бұрын

true, the starting is easy to follow and then the speed just keep increase till he can build and buy troops during fight.

@normalguy5583

4 жыл бұрын

i be like :"wait, when did he do that ? where is that troop coming from ?"

@EDgarAltar

4 жыл бұрын

phillow I don’t know what he’d call me but I’m still struggling with monster camps ;-;

@frederikj5754

3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I feel when the fight started. I think Grubby just outmicro the opponent.

Well those videos must be added in school programs so kids can learn something valuable in school

Please do more, having always loved the RTS genre but scared to death by the massive skill gap, easy to understand guides like this definitely makes it more approachable :)

@FollowGrubby

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it. This is the 3rd in a series. Human is last, and will be coming #soon

>Undead is generally "Happy" Yes.

Our third installment of Bloody Beginner guides is here, and today we're covering Undead! Take control of the Scourge, their mighty Death Knights and scary fiends, and destroy your opponent on the battlefield! Make sure to check out our other guides by playing the "Bloody Beginner Guides" playlist!

@CTIA3

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this videos Grubby, as a long time starcraft player ( high master in sc2, even played you once on ladder ) but a total noob in wc3 ( doing my 16 years old self made build orders ) I feel like this videos are perfect for me. I really like the orc build from the last video, went 8-0 with it in the beta ! Will you consider covering more builds for each race once you're done with the human video ? and also maybe key moments of the game like when to take a 3rd base or when should you switch to air etc... Hoping to get rekt by you one day !

@vasilisvrouliotis

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Grubby, really helpful!!

@KCSSpeciuM

4 жыл бұрын

thank you grubby... videos like this makes me play more the game

@StaySickGdl

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Grubby, would be great if you can make a video about hotkeys (units, buildings, map position if any) and how to setup your hero abilities to custom keys

@peasant7214

4 жыл бұрын

why not skill rain of fire?

His speed of reactions with hot keys is a force to be reckoned with.

wow, been playing warcraft for almost a decade and still learning lots of new content from this video

@FollowGrubby

4 жыл бұрын

Nice =)

Thank you Grubby. Even a year and many patches later. I learned so much. One of the things I notice with you is that you remain extremely calm under pressure.

The opponent was a good player too, just thought I'd say that. Nice guide Grubby

still amazes me how calm you remain... such a happy guy... I'm ready to smash my keyboard when I lose

Such a Kreygasm to see a well-spoken pro who usually plays a different race, to explain nuances of your main race with all the cool ideas and strategical reactions to the opponent's actions. Thank you, War chief!

10:00 "Most of these fights you're not actually Happy" Happy: Not sure about this one, chief.

Thanks for making these Grubby, its hard to get started as a complete newbie

Grubby: Beginner's guide! Also Grubby: 200 apm:)

love it ! thx so much grubby ! will help me get started with the game

it's kinda weird how the undead, a race of walking corpses, barely uses said corpses and instead uses half human half spider hybrids as the most used unit in the game

@mark-mp3ut

4 жыл бұрын

undead nerubians, but yes.

@tamie341

4 жыл бұрын

Same as how DK used to be a human knight, a lot of the UD units are corrupted members of other races. They were allowed to keep their humanity in exchange for absolute loyalty

@ardiessadida5146

3 жыл бұрын

i feel kinda weird when the Dreadlord is one of the Undead regular heroes since most of them alleged to Burning Legion lore wise, better replace them with Dark Ranger

@zimrim2973

3 жыл бұрын

@@ardiessadida5146 I disagree, dreadlords weren’t really... with the burning legion, but they weren’t with the undead either, and same goes for Sylvanas, I think they should replace dreadlord with something else tho

@maJastoL

3 жыл бұрын

@@ardiessadida5146 Dark ranger wasn't invented in reign of chaos and they needed 3 heroes

This is a great guide. Thank you Grubby!

Thank you so much! These are awesome, insightful and helpful

@FollowGrubby

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it Andrew!

It's amazing. It's like exploring grubby's brain

I love the series , please make a reforged one in a simulare way , thanks GrubbY your the best!!!!

As Im thinking of returning to W3 after Reforge will come out, this is a massive help! Thank you!

PERFECT TIMING

So much information thanks man! Gonna try doing this in my videos :)

Thank you very much!! Want more. I like it

Will these guides escalate from beginner to advanced players?

@FollowGrubby

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's a natural progression yeah, now that we started we are gonna be keeping it up I think! Slowly transitioning into Reforged-art guides (most likely)

@staysharp2453

4 жыл бұрын

@@FollowGrubby awesome. Feel free to make multiple versions for basic, intermediate and advanced if you want, since the game can develop in many different ways.

Very well explained Grubby !

Great guide, cheers

I love that Grubby is such a good player, and yet he is very noob friendly :) E.g "its not needed to disable auto-curse"

Great explanation! I can’t wait to try ^_^

The game sounds are so funny. I haven't played for so long I forgot the way it sounds.

when I play against a good undead. their unit just feels untouchable. but when I play UD.... everything felt like glasses. looking forward to a 2021 update. AOE4 just feels too starcraft to get into.

Grubby: This is take 1 Chat: Spams "take 2"

Thank you Grubby.

Awesome tutorial 👌

Hey Grubby, are you going to play Warcraft 3 professionally in the Warcraft 3 Reforged Esports tournaments?

Hi, good guide! But is it possible that you cant summon the 2 Skelletons from the start since Reforged?

Hey Grubby, any chance you have a link (sorry if this is already in this thread somewhere, had a browse and can't see it though), to the build order lists, have taken them as a screen snip but there are bits missing at the bottom on some and it's not the best re-sizing them for the type). Would like to have a play with these build orders in front of my so I can newbily get to grips with them! Cheers man. P.S love the videos.

@followgrubby few questions: What is the 3rd hero vs UD and which abilities to rank up on 1/2/3/4 lvl? Which abilities to rank up on 1/2/3/4 lvl on Tinker vs NE? Seeing Any race expand vs UD = we have to harras non stop (until my epx is about ready), not creeping or faster T3 to orb? At what limit should we make 3rd/4th Statue + upgrade for destro (which first upgr or units)? Bonus: Can we have a DL first ghouls + gargs follow up, please?

Amazing fight against orcs with undead. I generally get my ass kicked against orcs when I am undead or night elf cause I don't know how to move fast. Orcs are pretty much unstoppable once they got to you but first they have to get you.

Hey grubby, do you have a tutorial on how you organise your groups and how you use your keyboard ?

Let's get that 200k!!!!

i came back after i played some games and i just made a bit more fiends and it was pretty good

Hi Grubby, I think I can understand why there is no Destroyer in this Beginner build, I also think they're really hard to control. However, to my knowledge, they're the only dispell unit that UD has? Can you think of some situations where an UD player would really benefit from getting Destroyers?

@FollowGrubby

4 жыл бұрын

Correct, only Destroyers have Devour Magic and the Dispell for Undead. Against Orc's Hex, Spiirit Link, Bloodlust; you should really like to have Destroyers. Also, against Night Elf Bear Rejuvenation and Roar. Against enemy Undead's Dark Ranger Silence; and against Human's Water Elementals, Slow and Inner Fire. They're meta at top level, but they require meticulous micro control, pull-back micro, focus-fire micro, repositioning and devour magic timings and know-how. For 5 food, 300 gold, and like 100 lumber. That's a really tough sell for a beginner.

@aidanscannell3932

4 жыл бұрын

@@FollowGrubby I see, that makes sense. I can really see myself wasting Devour Magic and not get enough value out of them. I think I'll try to learn how to use them after I'm past the beginner stage. Thanks a lot Grubby, really appreciate your help.

@GameFuMaster

4 жыл бұрын

@@aidanscannell3932 maybe try and look for custom maps to work on your micro.

@andrewjoakim3690

4 жыл бұрын

Danny Pun try the test of faith map

@Lucius_Chiaraviglio

4 жыл бұрын

@@aidanscannell3932 You don't exactly waste Devour Magic, since after a few seconds it comes off cooldown and you can use it again. The main worry would be if you accidentally put the Destroyer in danger by using Devour Magic (if you are trying to Devour Magic against the enemy's back line or are up against Archers, which have longer range, or are up against aggressive anti-air), or if you really need to dispel a critical Entangle, Hex, Silence, or Soul Burn on a hero right after the cooldown starts.

undead rejoice Pog

iam interessted in the focus at a big fight, because thats when a know the least what to do

Hey, Grubby, can I still have a viable presence in the game with Dreadlord + DK heroes? I dont like other heroes, except maybe Lich. But DK's heal seems to be very important. I just really wanna play with DL.

@WulfLOL1

4 жыл бұрын

DL means you have to commit to a ghoul+fast expo opener. It's not really beginner friendly as you will always have people attack you into it and new players aren't specifically good at multitasking. It's viable (in some maps mroe than others), but harder to be successful with than a regular dk-lich fiend-statue core.

@Ronin3run

4 жыл бұрын

@@WulfLOL1 why does it mean fast opener? I'm okay with losing until I get it. Took me a while in sc2 until I learnt to fight and create units in the same time as zerg

@HighFPS

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ronin3run build Greyvyard a little bit later, start with hero, crypt zig, learn sleep first produce more then one ghoul at beginning and creep the expantion first, produce 5 acos while attacking the expo and set goldmine before teching to t2, you creep with many ghouls and skelletions and can easy surround enemy heros early with them + sleep. save the goldmine with aditional ziggs. greets :)

@HighFPS

4 жыл бұрын

you can buy the skullitem from shop, to put blight and build the first zigg at the expantion before the expo finished to protect it better

@Ronin3run

4 жыл бұрын

@@HighFPS thanks for the tips!!

Grubby can you add shortcut to the description? You are jumping inbetween building’s and I don’t know how ^^

Is this still a valid strat even 4 years later? I guess I'm wondering this about all 4 bloody beginner builds

nice

Can you teach us how to control units efficiently.. bcs it's really difficult to control group and switch between

@staysharp2453

4 жыл бұрын

I believe the most basic tip he has been given to beginners was: 1 group for meele, 1 for ranged, 1 for very specific units like casters or catapults.

Im not sure if banshees should be in the bloody beginner build tbh. They just arent as useful as destroyers and its not like destroyers are that hard to micro. I think banshees are more important at higher levels and really only for ams for human and mirror. Not that they still arent great for orc with curse but thats really a niche thing to deal with the blademaster and most low level blademasters arent scary enough and its probably better to just get more fiends and/or destroyers

Could I use this build but go lich first and dk second? Would it be less viable?

Notes: We go for standard army of DK + Lich, Fiends, Statues, Banshees Your hero will be late. Expect some harass, practice defending. Undead army is efficient and fast. Run if you are not ready. Creep whenever you are free. Use rod of necro to tank. Build ("food-count"/"max"): 6/10] Train 4th aco, Send 2 aco to gold, Send ghoul to wood 6/10] Build crypt, Build gravyeard 6/10] Train 5th aco, Send ghoul to wood next to graveyard 7/10] 185 gold] Build altar 7/10] 155 gold] Build 1st ziggurat 7/10] 125 gold crypt finishes], Train 2nd ghoul 9/10] 136 gold] Build shop 9/20] 255 gold ziggurat finishes] Train DK, Train 1st fiend 17/20] 150 gold] Build 2nd ziggurat 17/20] 220 gold] Train 2nd fiend 20/20] DK finishes] Buy rod, Summon, Creep 20/30] Train 3rd crypt friend, Tech to T2 23/30] Upgrade nerubian tower, Train 3rd ghoul, Buy 2nd rod, Build 3rd ziggurat 25/30] Train 4th fiend, Train 4th ghoul 30/40] T2 finishes] Train Lich, Build slaughterhouse, Build temple 35/40] Tech to T3, Buy 3rd rod on Lich 35/40] Train 1st statue, Train 1st banshee, Build 4th ziggurat 40/50] Train 2nd statue, Train 2nd banshee, Tech web if needed 45/50] T3 finishes] Buy orb of corr on Lich, Train 3rd hero from tavern Tips: Scout with every units "even" summon of Rod. For example, you're at 4/4 charges - summon 2 skellies, scout with 1. At 3/4 charges, both creep. What you're looking for is an expansion, so check their gold mines. Undead is happy on one vs one base, but must act vs expansions! You're welcome

Could you also explain the whys of what you do. I didn't understand why the banshee, though I get that the fiends are heavy hitters and so pretty useful. Why not necromancer? Why aren't abomination useful? Why a tavern hero and not alter?

@WalkingEpic

4 жыл бұрын

I watch a lot of pro WC3 but don’t have any actual in-game skill so take what I say with a grain of salt. For the banshees at least, Grubby explained that they reduce the damage output of the orc army with Curse (which gives enemy units to miss their attack entirely). I don’t think Necro’s give you the defensive spell options. As far as tavern heroes I know that Dark Ranger and Pitlord are able to be targeted and healed by death coil. Both heroes offer control options and probably have better right clicks in big fights as opposed to dreadlord. From I can tell too this game didn’t have him push 50+ food so it’s hard to fit the aboms in.

@fgorn

4 жыл бұрын

I understand the power of the banshee, but then, why does he advice to switch off curse?

@WalkingEpic

4 жыл бұрын

He advised if you have decent micro to turn auto cast off because if you get into any fight small , big, or creep they will cast it off cooldown until they have mana. So if you can control when they auto cast it by turning on for big fights in can help control the amount of damage you take. Going into a big fight with only one curse cast because the ai used their mana on murloc camps is not usually good.

will this work in reforged? I guess, but need confirm

Remuse : "Be gud"

So far the hardest of "Bloody Beginner" BOs for me. As a noob, I pretty much nailed the human build, orc was harder, but I've managed to win about 5 games. Undead is nightmare for me for some reason. I can barely beat easy AI (about 33% of the time). My units just get annihilated, banshee curses don't help. I can only win if I catch the poor bastard creeping, or pull 5 lvl creeps on him while running for my life. *Sigh*... Ok, back to practicing...

How do you see the percentages on the hero levels?

You forgot to turn on curse for the last fight hehe

Hi to all the people that said hi in the chat.

What's grubby's favorite race?

How to you change from your units to your builds and make more troops wwhile you are battling ?

@leonpelka

4 жыл бұрын

SukMikeHok Set a micro with ctrl and a number on your deserved building. Double press the Number will get you to the building, one press will select the building so you could start creating units without going to the base at all

@The_Flying_Greek

4 жыл бұрын

@@leonpelka thx mate!

Do banshees still work in this build in 2023?

Hey I was there

gg

when should I use destroyers

How do you hotkey buildings and armies?!

I do wonder if tavern heroes also get extra health regeneration on blight?

@fsddsafdfauytydfdss447

4 жыл бұрын

only dark ranger - undead

@WalkingEpic

4 жыл бұрын

Anders Hass I think also pitlord as well

@Lucius_Chiaraviglio

4 жыл бұрын

Several videos back, somebody reported that Firelord also counts as Undead.

i went dark ranger third in mirror matchup and realized im not rly making any skeletons xD

hello, where i can get that image to study it

Can you beat Computer Normal (Undead)? Since Undead Computer player is the hardest against all of the race...

Can I ask: why do you most certainly never build gargoyle?

@ratzlp0li

4 жыл бұрын

Bats

@haanhvu2127

4 жыл бұрын

@@ratzlp0li sry but what do you mean?

@morsperferro3419

4 жыл бұрын

@@haanhvu2127 i belive that he meant Bat Riders - orcish flying units, they will absolutely annihilate your gargs with their kamikaze skill.

@haanhvu2127

4 жыл бұрын

@@morsperferro3419 sry couldn't see your comment earlier and thanks for the explanation. But what about UD vs NE or HU, is garg that easy to counter?

Loghan feels and hows when u play undead LUL

I had no clue I had bonus regeneration on blight....

why is the rain of fire bad ability?

How do you select a building with the keyboard??

@HenriqueRJchiki

3 жыл бұрын

Ctrl + Number and then press said number twice

I win games now

Happy played dreadlord as 3rd hero vs infi :p

i use this strat and can win ord, human insane computer mode. but night elf is destroying me @@ what's wrong ?

i tried this build order and it didn't work because the opponet just trained a bunch of grunts and killed me

I have problem with binds i cant learn original binds. Can i set my own binds ?

@Heakz

4 жыл бұрын

There are a number of options, this is a pretty comprehensive on the ones I know of - its a great place to start, super easy to set up and use (especially if you have played mobas and are comfortable with their keybinds). gaming-tools.com/warcraft-3/hotkeys/

@FollowGrubby

4 жыл бұрын

ENABLING CUSTOMKEYS: find the "CustomKeysSample" file in your Warcraft III installation folder. Take it, and move it to the C:\Users\[yourname]\Documents\Warcraft III\CustomKeyBindings folder. Remove 'sample', and change the hotkeys of your choice.

@DoDos266CZ

4 жыл бұрын

@@FollowGrubby Thx :)

Grubby how i can see your stream dude live

Technically first..

we need Logan.

why tinker vs NE?

@nickbanderson

4 жыл бұрын

I don't play well but an idea: It narrows the frontline into a choke point so you can focus fire safely while their mg/bears are crammed without being able to attack

it was take 2

i never see ppl go banshees ?

I can't even beat Computer Normal...

Still down know, Why I always clumsy... Suddenly my hero died OR maybe my troops blocked my hero when surrounded then die... 😂😂😂😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

b r u h h h this was an amazing guide no lie but I think you may be a little bit out of touch with how much a beginner knows about RTS and what they can do 😅 build orders? control groups? a minute in and he's told you like a dozen things already only half of which a beginner would understand rip This is like an intermediate guide - an introduction to specific strategies assuming you already have a decent base understanding of the game and RTS in general...

3rd :D

Tell us about ur macro :)

first

1st the worst, 2nd the turd, 3rd the nerd

you can f#$%# repair the statue?!

This is so different from starcraft

@allenhelmuth2214

4 жыл бұрын

I've never played and am super curious as to what makes them so different.

@lGxtmXl

4 жыл бұрын

@@allenhelmuth2214 starcrafts about bigger armies and destroying the base, wc3 seems more about heroes farming and fewer units

@ColdBlazze

4 жыл бұрын

@@lGxtmXl in SC you have doubled the supply, you make 4 times more workers and army, buildings and expansions

@Lucius_Chiaraviglio

4 жыл бұрын

Also, the WarCraft III supply difference vs StarCraft (both versions) is more than it seems, because Terran and Zerg have 1 Food and even 1/2 Food units, whereas the only 1 Food units in WarCraft III are workers (and a merc on some maps that are not currently in ladder), and some of the WarCraft III Tier 1 units even cost 3 Food. And then you have Upkeep if you get past half of the final Food cap (and especially past 4/5 of the way), making it a good idea to refrain from going all the way to max Food.

My macroing skill is suck

ily grubby wish youd unban me but its ok

This is really far from beginner level, sorry.

why would u stil make classic videos, waste of time

@Ti7Vk3y

4 жыл бұрын

Rabble rabble rabble rabble! 😠

@Astanta666

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe because reforged isn't even half as stable and most features don't work yet?

@christiancinnabars1402

4 жыл бұрын

Notice how his reforged videos have "BETA" in the title?

@Ti7Vk3y

4 жыл бұрын

@@christiancinnabars1402 Lies *Kappa*

@FollowGrubby

4 жыл бұрын

Same gameplay, therefore a great way to get started to practice prior to Reforged release!