Growing Up Quaker in Indiana

As a kid growing up in holiness-influenced Indiana Quakerism, Max Carter was taught to avoid a long list of sins, including soft drinks-“which led to hard drinks!“-and dancing-“a vertical expression of a horizontal desire!”
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Transcript:
When I was teaching at Guilford College, looking the way I do-I wear a straw hat, I don’t have collars, I wear gray and all that-people ask me about my upbringing: “Were you born Quaker? Have you always been a Quaker?” And it’s a complicated story.
Growing Up Quaker in Indiana
My name is Max Carter and I live in Greensboro, North Carolina, where I recently retired from teaching at Guilford College. I’m a member of New Garden Friends Meeting which is jointly part of Friends General Conference and Friends United Meeting.
I was born into a Quaker family, 11 generations. I was born into a Quaker community, Quakers had settled that part of Indiana in the 1840s. But the Quakerism I was born into in 1948 was an assimilated Quakerism that after the Civil War had taken on more and more Protestant trappings.
My “Plain Quaker” Ancestors
My great-great grandparents on my mothers side-Robert and Elizabeth Johnson-were plain Friends living in New London, Indiana. My great-great grandparents on my father’s side were Fleming and Rachel Johnson (inbred!) who were also from New London, Indiana. They were all plain Friends. The photographs we have of them show them even in the early 1900s in broad brim hats, bonnets, plain clothes. Both of them attended the New London Meetinghouse, which is a plain, divided meetinghouse after the Civil war: still women on one side, men on the other because of the business meeting structure, with a partition down the middle. Silent meetings. Old, plain Quaker culture.
My great-great-grandparents were ministers in that meeting, adhered to that old, plain Quakerism.
The Influence of Holiness Revivals
Post-Civil War the revivals came through. By 1865 there was a Quaker meeting in Indiana that had already adopted pastoral worship. By the 1870s the revivals were so widespread that many Quakers were beginning to adopt more Protestant traditions of prepared sermons and music and hymns and alter calls. Many people were being converted in these revivals were coming into the Religious Society of Friends from outside the culture.
New London held firm. My great-great-grandparents resisted this enthusiastic religion of the revivalists, but one night the caretaker of the meetinghouse (who was a revivalist in sympathies) “inadvertently” left the basement door unlocked and the revival preacher came in and held a rip-roaring revival in the old Quaker meetinghouse. Many people in the community were converted. The only church in the community was the old Quaker meeting and so they came into membership there and within a decade, it was a programmed, pastoral Quaker meeting and my great-great-grandparents were pastors essentially in that meeting.
Assimilation into the Protestant Mainstream
It happened rapidly, this assimilation into the Protestant mainstream. By the time I was born, you still had Quakers in my meeting (they were called churches by that time) who remembered the old style of Quakerism. Their grandparents were plain and still used the plain speech. They didn’t anymore, but they remembered that style of Quakers and revered their ancestors. But more and more influence came from the revivals, from the Holiness movement, and from a type of Christianity that emphasized a personal relationship with Jesus: a personal conversion, an alter call experience. There were enough similarities to early Quakerism-his devout and holy life, the possibility of perfection-that it was readily accepted by many Friends.
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  • @Quakerspeak
    @Quakerspeak4 жыл бұрын

    SUBSCRIBE for a new video every week! fdsj.nl/QS-Subscribe WATCH all our videos: fdsj.nl/qs-all-videos FILMED & EDITED by Jon Watts: jonwatts.com

  • @codyofathens3397
    @codyofathens33973 жыл бұрын

    Can someone explain why the quaker meeting house divided the room between men and women? I thought Quakers believed in the equality of men and women from the beginning of the movement?

  • @pandachuzero
    @pandachuzero4 жыл бұрын

    So different from my experience here in Toronto Canada where we are unprogrammed Quakers. I find it so wild to hear of Evangelical Quakers.

  • @S211213
    @S2112134 жыл бұрын

    Max, I have Quaker ancesters that were near Tipton, The Moorman family, Hazel Dell etc. I am doing family research and curious if your family interacted with them, and also I grew up in Plainfield, Indiana were my family settled in the 1820's and have found many friends cemeteries with family, Bridgeport and Avon?

  • @janiejohnson5552
    @janiejohnson55524 жыл бұрын

    My Johnson great grandparents were Quakers.Both sides of my family were.Through the years they became Protestant.As I got older I became Catholic.Still to this day I don't drink or play cards! I have retired from the Catholic church where I worked for the bishop of Charlotte.But more and more I am being drawn back to my simple worship and way of life.God bless.

  • @WhiteFyre
    @WhiteFyre4 ай бұрын

    I thought Quakerism was a movement on astral travelling?

  • @larryrobertdevine7060
    @larryrobertdevine70604 жыл бұрын

    My name is Larry Devine. I find there is very little history on Quakerism in Upper Canada 1790’s or Rockwood, Ontario in the 20th Century. Are there any Quaker Communities in Ontario left? I would like to attend such a meeting. Currently, I am writing about a former student that attended “Rockwood Academy” (Brotherstown a Quaker Community) by the name of James Jerome Hill. Can you provide me a source of Upper Canadian Archival information.

  • @jamessorensen3447
    @jamessorensen34474 жыл бұрын

    When I was in college I started researching Quakers. When I was 10 I had visited an Evangelical Quaker Church with a "friend." But through my research I found myself drawn to traditional Quakerism like I saw portrayed in the movie "Friendly Persuasion." But I haven't found a meeting like that.

  • @misshvkk

    @misshvkk

    4 жыл бұрын

    They definitely do exist! I've found appropriate meetings for my spiritual needs in many different cities, in many different states. Finding a meeting of those who dress entirely plainly, maybe not so much- but I exclusively attend unprogrammed meetings and have never been disappointed by the welcome I've received from new Friends.

  • @msaunders908
    @msaunders9084 жыл бұрын

    I am also a Quaker living in Indiana (I have a long line of Quaker ancestors that settled in Hamilton county) and it's fascinating to me to learn about the different movements that influenced Quakerism in the area during the 20th century when my grandparents grew up. Most Quaker meetings I've attended have been programmed and very much in the evangelical style, but definitely not in the strict fundamentalist sense described here. I wonder if that's a product of change over time or if that strain of Quakerism was mainly local to New London?

  • @suzannescott6964
    @suzannescott69644 жыл бұрын

    One of my ancestors was one of the first quakers and a missionaries in america ,he did not stay in america as he was captured and torturied