Couldn't possibly love this more. I would like to thank John's parents (former priest and nun, no less!) for raising a stellar champion of human rights. "Because homophobia, Reverend, is an insult to God." Preach!

I love John's stance on this. He's not disproving the religion, or saying the Bible is fiction (like some comments), but rather shows the flaw of the self-righteous humans that are full of hate. Also, I hate seeing signs that say "God Hates...", because from what I understand, that's just not God's deal.

John Fugelsang is a brilliant, brilliant man. Please have him make more videos more often.

Amazing John, thank you !! You are a real good christian to me !

If only we could get the members of Westboro Baptist Church to watch this piece and actually comprehend what you are saying, we might get somewhere.

Kudos for John---I love this guy---He is spot on and says it all loud and very clear !!!

UpWorthy brought me here and I'm thankful for it. Thank you, John Fugelsang.

I love you, John Fugelsang!!!

@johnfugelsang7128

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I love you more. How're you?

Who's watching this in 2024? John Fugelsang is like the cool history teacher at a Dickensian co-ed boarding school who the Christofascist headmaster sees as a threat to his "diving authority" over the children.

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Tell it like it really is, John.

Love this man! ❤

Calmly and authoritatively stated.

Brilliant. Who knew the guy from AFV was so awesome? Love this guy.

I am a new fan of john fugelsang

@GlennC789

3 ай бұрын

I am a newer fan! By twelve years!

This is so spot on!

Way to go John!

Dude this is just great. Love it. :)

You go, John!!!

2024, and this is 13 years old. I know about 5 years back, some of those folks used to come to the Sarasota Beach area, and harass people during the friendly drum circles. No "love thy neighbor " energy at all

Their boycot of every single thing Christ ever taught. Yes.

@1:42, That's a good point. You truly are an insightful Biblical scholar.

Still good on 2023...

@LauraFlandersAndFriends

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

First time listening, Love it, I'll e back.

If the Westboro Baptist Church had been around in 33 A.D. they'd have picketed Jesus's funeral for associating with and forgiving sinners.

Thank you.

@johnfugelsang7128

3 жыл бұрын

Hey

love it

I love the comment about God and Vivid Video. Love it. *LOL*

Brilliant.

great post...

Spot on!

Brilliant video.

The punishment for sins in the New Testament became spiritual, rather than physical which is what is in place in the Old Testament. Christ said: 'let he without sin cast the first stone'.

Brilliant

Brilliant vid.

awesome argument.

God doesn't hate anyone! God doesn't command Westboro to hate anyone! He only hates sin. God created us all and loves us all. I have no idea why Westboro walks around with signs saying "God hates....".

Long time you saw him on TV

Clever!

Eating shellfish isn't an abomination, back in those days it just wasn't safe like it is now.

This was a very convincing argument in my opinion. Any Christians out their have a valid argument against this? I'm not trying to challenge or disrespect anyone, I just want to know what the other viewpoint would be?

@CommanderKorra

10 жыл бұрын

I'm a Christian and I largely agree with him. What the Westboro Baptist Church is doing is horrible, and it makes me so sad that anyone who claims to love Jesus would be so unloving. Jesus himself said that the Law (which is what John Fuselgang is referring to, more specifically called the Torah or the 613 mitzvot) is summed up in two commandments: love God and love people. I don't believe the real issue is all the political bullshit that gets argued about anyway; the real issue is that the church (as a whole) is not loving God or loving people as Jesus commanded. Just my two cents. I really wish I could apologize to the gay community on behalf of all people who actually know Jesus. I know it breaks Jesus's heart how gays are being treated (I'd like to state that Jesus preferred the company of homosexuals to hypocrites. Look out WBC). This is so against his character and his love. Thanks for being open enough to ask about it. God bless you.

@CommanderKorra

10 жыл бұрын

CommanderKorra and I should probably specify, I don't consider the gay rights issue as bullshit at all. I just think there's too much arguing.

@CiscoWes

4 ай бұрын

Leviticus is an expired set of civil laws for the people at the time. Secondly, it was directed to a specific group of people - the Jews. So atheists and other drive-by comment thread trolls that like to snatch things out of Leviticus couldn’t have made it easier to let people know they don’t have a clue about what they’re trying to discredit.

I love this man.....If the WBC has to stone people for sins the 1st one to go bye bye is that insane daughter of Freds. She had a child out of wedlock and I think was re married once before this husband. So plz Fred Sr do us a favor and follow your own rules :D

There's such a rise of excitement in John's voice when he actually mentions the name "Westboro Baptist Church". That could be excitement or maybe it's a rise of contempt. Mmm, probably the latter.

What was the date of this transmission, or the date Fugelsang said this if earlier?

By that definition, so is "On the Origin of Species".

@2ndteam they always have nice homes rolls eye

You ROCK John. As for debaser, I smell troll dung, and you're leaving a huge stinking pile of it.

i like your micheal j fox face john. keep pushin baby!

and most everyone wants to be on the stage- few wish to sit in the audience

So, what do you want me to disprove?

He forgot another vital instruction of Leviticus - 15:28-15:30 - where, upon menstruation, a woman must wait eight days until she is clean before she is able to sacrifice two turtledoves in atonement of the "uncleanliness of her discharge". Once again, God is punishing human beings for entirely natural phenomena. I sure hope Shirley is up to date with her ritualistic sacrifice...

(o: Also, many people don't know that Leviticus was actually an instruction manual for Israeli priests..Not for the common man....

@AgentGeorgina yeah, that didn't seem right. I've got to read that deng bible.

Agree with the video--although I don't think that WBC are very fond of Rush Limbaugh or George W. Bush as it is...

Love the Sinner ,( That me too) . But Hate the SIN. This guy did not get it.

George Michael Night at the Ramrod Bathhouse????

Heh! Well said :)

He got the verse wrong in liviticus. But most do. the original word is toevah which means it is not allowed in their customs. So it's not as strongly worded as the bad translations would want you to believe.

and if I had a dollar for every time I heard "going against nature", what can one do except correct you. What's ok or good in your opinion has nothing to do with the love between two other grown up human beings.

They are all caught up in this because its easier to do than to really follow Jesus...I thought Jesus said I have not come to condem you but to give you life ? ..so why are these so called followers of Jesus condemning people and not showing his life ?

Hmm...God and Vivid Video indeed have the exact same policy in the Bible regarding women-on-women.

i had some people try to preach to me about Revelations and Galatians 5, i told him to watch a little movie called, "fish out of water" some people really are dumb!

Westbrook Baptist Church is on the same side of the fence as atheists.

hahaha this great!

This video from 13 years ago has a bigger problem now in 2024. Hate is way too prevalent among so called christian ethos. Hate is epic these days.

@dbrunk66 he speaks of divorce and re-marriage equally adultery in the next verse, but Matthew 19:5 speaks of Christs, who is God, definition of what marriage is. I never said I believed the homosexual lifestyle be illegal fyi.

That's why Jesus told his followers to be no part of the world. John 17:16

@George Simpson Living proof? Going around protesting funerals and hating on gay people? When did the teachings of God tell about protesting funerals or hate people?

Why would god make me an atheist?

@einsatzdeath - Wow, you know nothing about John Fugelsang, his parents are devout Catholics who were not closed minded and understood the message of Christ was about opening yourself up to the world and having a deep spiritual love for all things. If we all understood that, not only would we be better people, we'd also have a better world, whether you are a follower of Christ or not.

@CKYJosh22 Of course. Man created god in his own image.

@CiscoWes

4 ай бұрын

Nope

Actually Jesus spoke against just about everything in Leviticus. He also spoke against human rules and traditions which is what Leviticus is. He was quoting Isaiah in the Old Testament. Issiah was quoting God. Jesus even said that men made up laws that were not from God but these haters just pick out the parts of the Bible that they can use to hate others and ignore everything that Jesus taught like love your neighbor as yourself, everyone is your neighbor and don't judge others. Hateful people aren't Christians. They are taking the name of the Lord in vain and blaspheming. God does not hate gay or trans people but God does strongly dislike hateful people. He who does not love does not know God because God is love. 1 John 4:8 God bless you ❤️

as a bi woman who is christian and not any of the gross stereotypes, i want to marry this man! or somebody just like him! he is the type of christian that i am! just saying!

It always amazes me that people who don't read Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic, still profess to tell others what is in the "Bible". The original Leviticus documents are actually referring to a prohibition against imitating non-Israelite, foreign cultic sexual substitution fertility rituals, and do not condemn anyone who does not use substitutional and/or incestuous sex as a method of gaining Divine favor. I can quote out the Hebrew for you, but you wouldn't understand it @einsatzdeath.

@MetaKnight: Shellfish are safe to eat now? LMAO Do some research on the shrimp the Chinese raise to sell to the USA (90% of consumed in the USA) and see how much antibiotics they put into the water.

Prove it

i think he forgot that in Leviticus that you have to stone wizards to death so the bible might not be the right answer

@Sheldonrs Are you calling people that don't believe in science & medicine idiots?? What, now you're gonna say people who believe the world is flat (like they did when the Bible was written) were wrong too??? Don't you realize everything people thought when the Bible was written was true!

WHO IS THEIR GOD???

@CiscoWes

4 ай бұрын

The god of this world, which is satan. They won’t admit it and might not even be aware of it, but that’s their god. Just like Jesus told them they were of their father, the devil.

Also divorce and remarriage isn't bad, it's just not recommended or rather shouldn't be, those who have relationship troubles shouldn't just get a divorce they should first try to work out their problems.

I think they mean it doesn't / can't produce offspring.

@EvilStar109 hey kid, such language...would your jesus approve? /ignored

@MaryWaterton How do you know what God says, when man wrote the Bible, and the Greek myths before it. No difference.

@CiscoWes

4 ай бұрын

The claim man wrote the Bible is baseless. It’s an atheist bleating that is so overused it’s cliche and has no meaning.

@humanreplica >>Leviticus is old testament anyway, and that's Jewish. WBC is Baptist.  Matthew 5: 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." And don't forget, Jesus was a Jew. He opposed the Pharisee's application of scripture (then, what we cal the Old Testament) He often quoted scripture and explained how it applies to us, his followers. Are you a Paulist (Rom 10:4; Gal 3:23-25; Eph 2:15) or a Christian?

The bible is just that, a book written in a time a culture with idioms that the, then nonexistent English language can’t understand or translate into the English language without distorting it which is what has been done over the centuries. Man has changed the meaning of most of the bible to suit the American English thoughts and morals

@JJbirdsong1 Christ said 'if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you have committed adultery' i.e. you ideally should be married to have sex and marriage is between a man and a woman- 'when a man leaves his parents he will united with his wife and together they will become one flesh'- sodomy in that sense is not different to fornication. But St Paul was a prophet of God who reportedly spent we years out in the desert with Jesus and the first things he wrote was in Romans 1.

@humanreplica Every Christian church I have ever been in has readings from the Old Testament, you silly. Even "Babtist" churches. Most Christians (and Muslims) believe that the God of the O.T. is the same God of the New Testament.

Near perfect riff on intolerance. Unfortunately the Rush joke - given the Arizona shootings - exposes the whole bit to criticism that will dilute the worthy message IMO.

I think Rush Limbaugh has been stoned. at least three times...

for the record... if you've listened to WBC at all, you'd know that they *interpret* Leviticus as only applying to the theocratic state of Israel... I mean, government. I mean, they think that only government should have the authority to do this "death penalty" stuff... but, w/e... sure... make fun of them... "you're" the one who's "going to hell".. hahahahaha!!!!!!!!! :-P

Romans is Paul, not God or Jesus.

Adultry is

Amen. LMAO

@auramac Would you label Christ with such bigotry? Truth is, you think you're smarter than the Creator who made you. As it is written 'they worship the creature, rather than the Creator'- Romans.

@freedom1234573 Yes it is. It was a christian for 15 years until recently, and I know christianity very well. Watch this youtube video: /watch?v=Gs72sNp6ngs

Jesus was referring to DIVORCE....YOU SHOULD MAKE THAT ILLEGAL!!

Alright, fair enough. Let me ask you this, though, can you prove that stuff DIDN'T happen. I can't prove it did, but you can't disprove it either. And I don't mean stuff like the story of Adam and Eve, which are metaphorical.

lol @Bullhornman2010

@johnfugelsang7128

3 жыл бұрын

How're you?

King James changed that part of the Bible .Christian noblemen could have more than one wife and usually did...

@JJbirdsong1 What nonsense! The passage in Romans 1 describes homosexual acts entirely in negative terms. It describes it as 'vile affections' and 'shameful acts'- do you really believe such condemnation would not be applied if the acts had been consensual? Does a shameful act no longer remain a shameful just because people have agreed to it? Anyhow, the Bible condemns all sexual relations outside of marriage, which as Christ explains in Matthew 19:5 is exclusive to one man, one woman.

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